Galaxy S7 vs iPhone SE vs HTC 10

@Ethrem

This video is for you, please prepare some pop corn, real world review but long:

 

LOL, i closed it after 15 seconds. I remember someone posting another video of his rofl.

 

I can't watch long YouTube videos. They drive me nuts.

I did manage to pull this off though.



It still throttled but not as much as it was. Second run went right down to 66k. It's funny because Samsung slamming the SD810 is why I didn't get the M9 but the fact is, the Exynos runs hotter than the 810.

 

@Ethrem

I just watched that video, man, after you watch it, you might change your mind about getting it. So many shortfalls for the price. No always on display, no waterproofing, no wireless charging, subpar speakers that are worse than the M9, etc.

Edit: Never Mind, the positives are awesome too. So one must see the negatives vs positives maybe some of those negatives are not important to a person

 

Speakers are subjective, I've never used wireless charging, and always on display would kill a Super LCD phone - it drains AMOLED displays too but since AMOLED has no backlight, the impact is minimal. I don't have an always on display on my Note 5 and didn't like it on my Nexus 6 and turned it off. It's a useless gimmick and AMOLED displays get burn in when they're always on. My Nexus 6 had mild burn in of the status bar.

If it doesn't do this



Then it's better than what I have now. And the Note 5 has a horrible speaker, there's no way the HTC speakers will be worse.

Here's the problem. There are few phones that interest me that have full T-Mobile support - I really do not want to move to an iPhone, I'm heavily invested in Android. The HTC 10 is the only flagship that has manufacturer support for unlocking the bootloader and flashing custom ROMs. Not only does it not void your warranty, HTC has an officially sanctioned developer site that will give you a code and they changed their stance on warranty when phones have been unlocked to one that doesn't void the warranty when the phone has been unlocked. With the S7 and S7 Edge both being encrypted and not even having root in the US, there's a good chance the Note 6 will be locked down too. Breaking Samsung's encrypted bootloader has been a fool's errand most of the time and now that it's backed up by dm-verity and Qualcomm Secure Boot, even the most prominent developers are throwing in the towel. LG devices are all garbage, Sony left the US market, the Motorola Z series looks promising but I'll have to wait and see how everything looks and also if T-Mobile picks it up (since I'm on an installment plan, the only way out besides paying off the 500 something I owe on the phone is to trade it in for the cheapest smartphone they have, pay that off, and that ends up tacking another 150 bucks give or take to whatever purchase I make that isn't from T-Mobile).

Top that off with the explosion of development for the HTC 10 already and its looking highly likely that I'll be getting one if for no other reason than the fact that there's nothing else that would fit my needs. I'm keeping an eye out for the next Nexus though.

 

He does have a point with the multitasking. He just reminded me that when I have to sit through an annoying video like his, I can do split screen and fold it up at the top of the screen so I don't have to see it but I can keep hearing him yammer on and on while I browse Chrome.

 

Woaw.... This discussion derailed a bit... How come Android-supporters seem to be so horny on Benchmark numbers?

 

This thread exploded overnight haha. Ethrem I really think you could make do with a Iphone 6S plus, since you seem to need big phones. The t-mobile support on these newer apple phones is very good, will be switching to them after this AT&T contract is over since they done away with subsidized upgrades. Performance is great, the iOS is very well coded, optimized, secure, it does everything it is supposed to very well. It will take time to adjust but it is completely doable. They only thing I hate about iphone/apple is the ridiculous charges for increasing storage and the proprietary crap they do.

 

The 6S Plus was on my list but it's way too expensive. Apple needs to stop screwing customers and bump the 16GB to 32GB in stead of leaving the 16-64GB gap forcing just about everyone to pay an extra hundred bucks for an already overpriced phone.

 

8 years running, blending iPhones, now the iPhone SE:

Will it Blend?

http://www.blendtec.com/

 

I want to hate it so much just because Blendtec makes horrible blenders compared to Vitamix but that was hilarious.

 

Here are some more Apple Blends

Code:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=2cb4761e-a3a5-4de7-ac76-a77dbe237b24&feature=cards&list=PL5B2372870FCE5A72&src_vid=DORyTWjqg7U&v=E8sxwK2pJI4

 

I've seen all of them except the SE lol.

 

Vitamix blenders are amazing.

 

They absolutely are. Much more useful than an iPhone SE too. Lol

 

Selfie with my iPhone SE's front facing 1.2 MP camera using the ProCamera app:



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Other pics using the rear camera:

 

I've never used my front facing camera before on my Note 5... I'm sitting with no direct light, not bad...

There's a lot of noise in some of your back cam pics.

 

oh you're flying in the clouds like me

Yeah I just realized the noise, I asked the waitress to take the pics I think she sucks at taking pics, or maybe it's HDR causing this.....

here is another of the rear camera:

 

Yeah but I'm vaping lol.

That's an insane amount of noise for an indoor pic. My low light pics don't even come out that noisy. My Note 5 has the IMX240 though, NOT Samsung's IsoCell trash (yes Samsung used two different sensors in the same model, ticked a lot of people off).

 

Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock,...,Vitamix, iPhone SE,...

 

ok so this is using the stock camera app, not ProCamera, also in HDR mode, any better or still noisy?



@Ethrem

Still sucks when I zoom in

Man do I miss that awesome camera of my S7

 

Yeah that's really not impressive at all for an iphone... I thought the SE had the 6S optics?

 

Geez guys, they're phone cameras, little bitty button cameras, I think @Phoenix 's photo's look great

 

the iPhone SE has the same rear camera as the iPhone 6S, same CPU, RAM, etc.

only difference is the front camera on the SE is an ancient 1.2MP camera. Dunno what the heck Apple was thinking of including such a crappy camera on a 2016 phone but whatever, I rarely do selfies.

 

I hardly ever use my camera period to be honest. Since I'm homebound, not much to take pictures of.

 

Why not get both?

I think they are both good phones, but I am partial to Android, so Galaxy S7 would be the one for me. Beyond that, its photos are of amazing quality! The size of the iPhone is convenient at times, and the battery life would probably be better... I guess it all depends on what you want from your phones.

 

Same. I don't have massive hands, and I have a Galaxy Tab S (amazing screen) for all my video/reading needs. My phone is used for nothing other than calls/text/music. I want a small phone with high-end specs.

 

I am gonna switch back from my HTC 10 to my iPhone SE, yes, I miss its size and superb battery life that much. 3 days battery life on low power mode can never be beaten by any Android device. The HTC 10 has a 3000 mAH battery but the iPhone SE's miniature 1500 mAH battery kicks its butt

 

Well, the screen size plays a huge part in that, also the SE has to push a lot less pixels. Add to that slightly better iOS power efficiency.

I tried the SE the other day, didn't like it for the exact same reason i got rid of my 5s within a week. They are just not big enough for media consumption.

 

it's a really tough decision man, the HTC 10 is a media consumption beast, great camera and screen and speakers. The iPhone SE is the best real phone you can have, as in battery life, signal reception...

I hate iOS compared to Android but I am not liking having to keep charging my phone all the time

 

Agreed.

I had the 5S given to me by a company i was working on a project for, and they let me keep it. I got rid of it mainly because of the size. I even tried giving it to my system, but she preferred the Nexus 6 over the 5S for the exact same reasons xD
Right now all i use my M8 is for watching videos in bed and Spotify. (add a call or two and some messaging) It was so hard for me to justify the HTC 10 purchase, but i know ill hang onto it for at least 2 years, like like i did with my M8, which still looks brand new btw.

 

What's the reason you don't want the iPhone 6s Plus? As it's got great battery life with a large screen for media consumption?

But, the Samsung S7 Edge has even better battery runtime results for many activities than any iPhone.

Samsung S7 Edge vs iPhone 6s Plus - Battery Life Comparison


15 Reasons Why The Samsung Galaxy S7 is Better than the iPhone 6s


I am getting 3-4 days under normal usage on my Samsung S7 Edge running without Power Saving mode - full performance for apps not selected for Power Optimization.

It takes a little tuning, really just flicking a switch on each app to power optimize it, only takes a little time and it's worth it for better battery life.

Disabling built-in apps that run all the time and take more power than desired is the other tuning I do.

The tuning only takes a little time. And, I already posted the lists of apps to optimize power and to disable for the S7 Edge on 6.0.1.

The same can be done for the HTC 10.

Are you using Greenify? Get the paid/donation version off the Google Store, and set up all apps to Hibernate when not in use, with automatic and manual Hibernation.

Android takes a little tuning to optimize, but it's worth it over iOS. It's like OC'ing a CPU/GPU, but more fun

 

well speaking from my experience, this hasn't been the case.

here's the thing. I use the same exact apps on both iOS and Android....

Without loading any apps, the S7's battery life when I had it was good. After loading the apps, despite me setting them all to always optimize (using the Doze feature), and all of them being closed, the battery sucking was abnormal.....like I won't touch the phone and I can see the battery discharge rate is horrible......

The HTC 10 is a bit better but still not anywhere near how the standby time is on iOS. The reason I say standby time is because I am a very light user which is how I get 3 days battery life from the iPhone SE since I rarely touch the phone but the same can't be true for Android despite its devices having a large battery. I do disable all unwanted apps I'm no n00b in this regard.

Why don't I get the iPhone 6s Plus? simply because I despise large phones. I only got the HTC 10 to get back on Android which I prefer more as I hate iTunes and for the camera, but now come to think of it again, I don't use the camera that much so I might switch back to the iPhone SE which I was super happy with its battery life and keep the HTC 10 aside until maybe a future OS update or Android Nutella improves its battery life.

You don't understand what a tough decision this is as both are awesome phone, each in its own way off course

PS: I don't even know what Greenify is

 

I dont think he is into rooting and stuff.
Greenify works best if your phone is rooted. At least from my experience.

But personally for me, i want a phone which i have complete control over, i was almost all in for the S7, but the Samsung locks pushed me away.

Also one thing i have observed when using phones in the East (Asia/UAE / etc.) is that the networks drain the battery way too much than they do in the US. Maybe its the implementation or optimization or whatever, it just isn't the same. The 5S that i cited earlier, would last around 25 hours on charge with my use on AT&T LTE. The same phone did not last more than 12 hours in New Delhi, India. Same thing with a few other phones that i purchased in the US and used in India for a bit.

 

Here is my experience with tooting......

I had a Galaxy S3 back then, I rooted it and then started having FCs (Force closes) randomly in the stock apps like the Music Player......so I thought oh well, easy fix, I'll just load the stock OS back......I did, but I still had the FCs left and right and yes I did setup the phone as a new phone not restored from any backup....that's when I thought why the heck am I rooting, other than more control over the OS, I am a person who pays for their apps so I don't need any warez/hacked apps... all I wanted was for more control over the OS using apps that require root access but that didn't go well. From that point on, I promised myself never to mess with the phones by rooting and/or jailbreaking as the benefits to me are not worth the damage involved. Just my 2 cents woth, take it or leave it

 

Greenify now does 95% of everything it does without root, 5.0.1 and above, you should take another look at Greenify

The cell site spread distance can have an effect on the battery usage, needing to raise power to stay in connection and for calls. Relative battery life is the same, you get less on everything from what you are saying.

I have root on so many things, I don't feel slighted that my phone isn't rooted

I can do everything I need to do, the additional system access like Greenify takes advantage of in 5.0.1 and above is enough for me to get the battery life maximized, and the performance is far more than I need for normal use.

I lived on my Sony Xperia Z Ultra rooted for many years, and it's performance wasn't noticeably an issue, and compared to the S7 Edge it is slower, but still fully functional - I don't need to OC my S7 Edge.

 

Umm, thing with "tooting" is that you gotta know what exactly is going on, or how to fix it. I have played with android devices since the G1 first came out, and when rooting was a manual task.

What you cited is what was happening to my S3 as well, and to a few other people on XDA as well. A certain ROM, for example would work flawless for like 99% people, but it was bootlooping the heck out of my phone and 2 more members. The Dev himself couldn't figure out what the hell was going on. Then there was the thing about getting full access and Samsungs BS.

My M8 on the other hand, i ****ed it up in the first hour after it got delivered , got in touch with the HTC dev chat and explained what i was doing and that i dont give 2 hoots about the warranty, she was so excited to talk to someone who understood what he was doing and could execute diagnostic as fast as they could. In the end it wasn't anything major, and just a zip signing issue. But i haven't had a single issue with rooting/getting S-OFF on any HTC device yet.

Heck the most fun i had was with my Motorola Milestone that phone was locked down harder than Samsungs **** on constipation, but that is exactly where the fun was.

 

Rooting isnt a big thing, im looking for complete low level access aka. S-OFF. Being able to do just whatever i want. Cant do that with a Samsung phone now.

I do actually use the Greenify Xposed module.

But yeah, at firs i thought the same that there was nothing wrong and the general duration will remain the same, but after 5 devices, i tend to believe otherwise.

 

Thank you for letting me know about Greenify, I cannot rep you again for this. I will try it on my HTC 10 to see if my battery gets better.

@Papusan can you do the honors with rep management for hmscott please?

 

I agree for the most part, but rooting Android is basically getting a root login like under UNIX, very similar.

Rooting is not for using illegal software, even if rooting is required as part of getting around phone security, it's not the main function for legitimate uses - of which there are many.

I also agree that rooting isn't / shouldn't be needed on a phone for normal use, and as I have found - rooting can take down a phone, even for a short time it can be a bad thing if you are depending on that phone for your work/life.

Rooting my main communications device isn't desirable.

 

Agree to a certain extent, but i just dont understand how it causes so many issues for certain users.
I never had issues with rooting any of my devices. Maybe im just doing it the right way or plain lucky, but one thing i suggest to people more than anything - Read the **** out of the forums.

 

Not sure what you mean by this...

What I tried to say is that under the same environment, in Asia with heavy battery drain from cell sites, all phones are on the same playing ground, so a relatively longer duration phone in a low battery usage environment should maintain that advantage.

There are definately radio differences, and some will take the power hit worse than others, but if the battery capacity is high, and you can manage the phone battery usage, you should be able to tune it well.

In those circumstances I am assuming the provider/phone vendor will provide an optimized kernel/drivers for that region. If not, then root would be helpful to install a better optimized mix for the region.

In the US, on ATT, I have had good battery life after optimizing for applications both rooted and not rooted. Android and access to applications has improved enough to not require root for this use.

The only other use I would want root is to do kernel / driver tuning / OC'ing, but the first 2 are already nicely optimized these days as I said, so that only leaves OC'ing - and the 820/530 are already power enough as provided.

If I run without any power optimization, full performance as available stock, I can run that little metal body pretty darned hot - hot enough to use freeze mist during benchmarks to optimize performance.

I don't think I would want to OC any further without a cooling rig - right now I use a "frozen" freeze mist can to transfer heat away from the body, which has been enough.

So, running stock, with no-root, and with the resulting stable reliable communications I need is best for me.

 

oh I had a hard time tooting my Galaxy S6 edge+, when I would run Odin, it would start the flash process then hang in the middle. I then used a paid service where some company logged in to my computer and tooted my phone using TeamViewer, what I didn't do was to enable USB debugging mode that was my mistake which I learned the hard way after I paid them. None of the people on Android Central even suggested that when I posted my question as to why I am not able to toot. All they were suggesting was to try different versions of Odin.

 

I'm using Greenify now, let's see how my battery drain goes now with its advanced doze feature

 

I'm using Greenify now, let's see how my battery drain goes now with its advanced doze feature

 

There is a mind set you learn by doing this kind of work over time. Most people never learn to approach problems methodically, positively, and with the mental and emotional stability and force required to push through to a successful outcome.

Once you have done it successfully on one platform from scratch, you build an expertise that is beyond comprehension for most people, they haven't a clue.

What seems simple to us, isn't in view for others. We have been there, and back so we know where we need to go and how to get there. Even if tools change, references change, it's all the same destination and we know how to navigate there.

Besides, it's fun to us, and that's the real barrier that most can't overcome. They just don't care

 

My bad i mis understood, i figured you were comparing US and Asia drain to be almost the same.

 

Amen. ****ing things up is the first step and then taking a chill pill the next.

Dont freak out like a 12 year old dude who just had his first period.

 

You need to manually add all the user and system apps/threads to be Hibernated.

Do it a little at a time. Don't Mark your Alarm Clock or other important apps to Hibernate, leave them alone

And, go through the Settings to enable system access, you need to go where it takes you and enable Greenify access so it can do the system Hibernate and auto Hibernate.

Also, create the 2 desktop icons for Hibernate Now and Hibernate and Lock.

I use Hibernate Now to manually push all apps to Hibernate - once you start just sit back and let it run through the disablement - it takes a little time for each app.

Then if you are done using your phone for now, use Hibernate and Lock, it will turn off the screen and hibernate the open apps.

 

For me I tend to "use" root to it's maximum, which means constantly tuning and tweaking and trying new optimizations, which as we both know - don't always work as expected - so you need to recover, which no matter how experienced you are, takes time.

That time is downtime for my very active communications devices isn't easily tolerated.

Not rooting my phone takes away the possibility of quickly taking my phone offline