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    Galaxy S7 vs iPhone SE vs HTC 10

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    when I clicked on the apps to hibernate, it just took me to the Android Doze settings and all my apps were on hibernate, I thought there was a way to whitelist an app within Greenify itself

    and where do I find that setting to give it system access as you suggested?
     
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    talk about hijacking a thread :D we hijacked the heck out of this thread but good conversation though :D
     
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    Yeah i can understand, i barely use my phone as it is.

    And most of my work communication is either on my Blade or on the work phone. So it doesn't affect me and lets me be reckless. But i can definitely understand the reluctance towards doing anything to the main comms device.
     
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    Done!! :D
     
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    It's a very visual interaction, so a video to follow along is best, and there are lots of them on Youtube. I will provide a couple to watch below, but first try to describe it in words :)

    You need to add apps to Greenify, it's not going to automatically add every app to Hibernate, as it doesn't know what is safe for your use to Hibernate.

    When you open Greenify the first time you see a list of apps *to* add to Hibernation, not already Hibernated :)

    Mine is already done, so I can't show you the virgin view, hit + alone without any apps selected yet to get to the App Analyzer view.

    Once you are in the App Analyzer view, I open the vertical ... at the top right to show all apps, including system apps - which are identified in orange text. Don't add any of those at first, that's an advanced optimization that you shouldn't worry about yet.

    Basically I select a bunch of "black text" apps, apps I have added/installed - you can select as many as you like, then touch the Check green button to add them to Hibernation.

    Keep doing that, clicking More Apps when needed, until you have added all the installed apps you want Hibernated - leaving out the Alarm Clock, Voicemail, Messages (text), etc.

    Then go back a page to the top level view, and touch the green Zzzz button to Hibernate all the non-Hibernated apps.

    That's it. Then as you open apps, and close them, they will unhibernate and be left open, you need to manually run the Greenify program again to touch the Zzzz button, or use the Home screen "Hibernate Now" widget or Hibernate and Lock Widget.

    The app will prompt you to the settings location to enable Greenify system access. I don't have an easy description to get you there.

    Watch some how to use Greenify videos, they should get you there quicker than my description :)

    Find some videos that you like the voice / presentation, and watch them through - follow along on your phone.

    I filtered these according to upload date, as the newer versions have some differences in the views than the older versions described in older videos - once you understand it all the older videos might be good to watch to see how things have changed.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=CAI%3D&q=how+to+use+greenify

    The first one is good, but he is a bit quick, you will need to go back and stop to see and understand what he did at selection points. And, he didn't go through Settings, which is an easier place to get the desktop widgets created.

     
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    The very next thing to do in Greenify once you have added all the user apps, is to add all the Built-in Apps (in orange text) that are recognizable as just apps - like Facebook, etc. That's the semi-advanced next step :)

    You will need to "Insist" on the Hibernation of those apps as they are "system" apps.

    This is once place where you will be directed to allow Greenify access, through the Accessibility settings menu, you just check the box next to Greenify in the list of apps needing access - a good time to review what else is allowed and make sure you wish to continue to all them access - or also add/check other services that can use the access.

    The next stage is to Greenify system services... which can bork things up, but it's easy to undo them - un-Greenify. For instance the facebook services are good to Hibernate.

    Have fun :)
     
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    Quite true. I used to have a Note 3, because it was my primary device for watching videos and reading. However, with my Tab S 8.4", I no longer use my phone for that stuff, so I have no need for anything larger than 4-4.5".
     
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    I thought so too, but I find I prefer carrying 1 device, if I start stacking up slim laptop, tablet, phone, papers, etc - it's too much and I leave the tablet behind. So a large screen phone can do double duty, and is preferable.

    If I could get phone functionality out of a tablet, I would only carry that, but until then I will bring a "phablet".
     
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    To each his own I guess. I only watch video/read on my commute, so it matters not if I have one device or 2. Any other time I'm out and about, a smaller phone is actually preferable.

    After using a tablet, I find it hard watching any kind of video on a smaller screen. But that's just me. Anytime I forget my tablet at home I curse, and after watching a few minutes of video on my tiny 5.2" screen I just stop and listen to music for the rest of the commute.
     
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    A 7" phone/tablet/phablet is preferred, and at 5.5" the Samsung S7 Edge feels small after using a 6.4" Xperia Z Ultra for several years, but I've gotten used to the Samsung S7 Edge smaller screen after a few weeks of use.

    It's been a long progression of parring down my carry to a smaller count / load, and I adding a tablet feels like it is slowing me down.
     
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    I saw a dude in my Gym the other day holding a Samsung phablet in his hand talking to someone and I'm like......what the heck is this guy doing, looks very weird man, holding a
     
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    Yeah, I know, until you're the one holding it, and you get used to it. Plus I use bluetooth headsets and hand's free, so I don't hold the massive phone up to my head often. :)

    Besides, I'm pretty big, so it's not that big in relation to me :confused:

    Someday, when the tablets get full communications features, a small handheld handset will likely sprout between me and the tablet, so that'll solve that issue.

    Until then, I wouldn't mind holding up a tablet as a phone, it'll be like a boombox on my shoulder :D :eek: :p :cool:
     
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    You know, I used to fantasize about using the PSP as a phone. Back when VOIP was in its early stages, I thought could use my PSP as a phone wherever wifi was, and I did when I got a headset for it. Was freaking sweet at the time because...there was no iphone. This thing did it ALL mind you...music, video, web browser, clean interface, and actual games. I was the total middle school and high school stud (not) with that thing.....

    First and last phablet i'll ever own lol
     
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    @Ethrem @bloodhawk

    iPhone SE AnTuTu score, very impressive for such a small phone

    iPhone SE - AnTuTu.PNG
     
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    It would be impressive if it was pushing a quad HD screen like those of us on Android. :p
     
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    Ahh yes, that is something i literally forgot to mention. Also one of the main reasons for the great battery life.
     
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    as a regular user, my eyes can't tell the difference between HD and Quad HD. The lesser pixels for me is better for battery life. As you may know already, for me the number 1 things in a phone are battery life and camera. I hate having to charge me phone all the time
     
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    indeed, give m3|-| battery life and take all the pixels you want :D
     
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    So I have finally decided to keep the iPhone SE and sell the HTC 10, reason being, I was expecting a bit more from the HTC 10's camera but it is very difficult to get a good shot despite it having OIS on both the front and rear camera, every shot is a hit or miss, I find myself having to take 3 to 4 shots before getting a decent photo that doesn't look shaky despite me trying to stand still while taking the shot. Then comes the super iPhone SE battery life so the positives of the iPhone SE, small form factor which I prefer and easier to use camera as most shots with the iPhone SE look good (granted you don't zoom in on the photo then the noise appears)
     
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    I can tell a huge difference between the two but that's because I multitask so much. Reading the text on cards behind the one I'm currently on is much easier on the higher resolution display for me. I've tried going back and I just can't. With that said, the iPhone SE is just way too small for me anyway while the 10 is perfect sized with the case I picked. Exact thickness and perfect keyboard access for me so I'll probably keep the 10 for awhile unless the Nexus really wows me.
     
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    size is a personal preference. To me, the smaller the phone is, the better as I have my laptop with me everywhere I go for media and whatnot.

    Regarding Nexus, whatever you do, if it was made by Huawei don't get it. The Nexus 6P I has although still a Nexus device had the crappiest touch screen keyboard ever. A lot of time while typing the space key doesn't register so my sentences appear with no spacing. I tried SwiftKey, Flex Keyboard, the stock keyboard, seems like a problem with its screen or maybe it was just my device.

    Then comes Huawei's crappy customer service who were not even able to tell me when they will have the USB-C cable for me to buy as my cats ate mine, nor could they help me order one. Appalling customer service at its best.
     
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    Yeap, thats what she said as well.
    I mean for the of usage most people have these days, SE just doesn't work. Mainly because of the size. Unless all you want to do is call and text with light browsing.
     
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    Its pretty good in the US bub.
     
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    whatever happened when phones had the 3.5" size like the iPhone 4S? they were very happy with it, to me even the iPhone SE is a bit big. Give me the size of the 4S and I'm super happy. I want a phone that looks like a phone but have whatsapp, good camera, great battery life. The bigger the phone, the worse the battery even though they have 3000 mAH batteries as we see lately, you can barely get through the day as the power needed to give juice to that big screen is bigger. I like that there are choices out there so one could pick what he prefers but the choices for small screen phones are close to none. I wish they would make a small Android phone
     
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    Partly agree, but back then there was barely any content to consume on bigger displays.
    For example, now if im out from office for a few hours and one of my team members wants me to see a quick render he has done. I cannot see anything on a gimped display. But this is highly subjective and will vary for everyone, based on their use.

    As for the battery, dont we all go home every night? I have the habit of charging my phone right before i goto sleep. The charge is right next to my pillow, most people have it that way. And then the phone is ready yet again next morning for a full day of use.

    This is just my opinion since i dont really expect any phone to last me more than 12 hours of moderate to heavy use. because either ways i WILL charge it at night. Because what if it is at 60% in the morning, and i end up using it more than i usually do? Empty battery bruh.

    I there are a few smaller Android Phones, but they aren't that high end.
     
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    I echo your sentiment, I very much would like to have a 4S packed with 6S power. 5/5S/SE is the maximum size I can handle for a phone. Anyway, I'm very happy with my SE. Portable power.
     
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    These 2 like it small. *noted* :p
     
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    Well HTC has acknowledged the WiFi driver bug so pretty soon that will be fixed. Once that's fixed, this will be my first phone since the Blackberry that lasted 2 days before needing to be charged. I'm used to charging my android phones like twice a day and this one with WiFi set to turn off when the screen is off lasts over a day so that's good enough for me. I have specific requirements for my phones though and screen size is one of them. Anything under 5 inches is too small. The reason I was able to use phones with smaller screens before is because the apps weren't as complex and I almost always had a physical keyboard on those devices too. Now though it's just not enough.

    I also use Miracast a lot so that kills Apple for me right off the bat since I can't stand the Apple TV (my roommate has one and its constantly screwing up).

    I also haven't had any problems with the HTC camera as long as I make sure the lens is spotless. That's a bit of an annoyance that it attracts and holds oil as much as it does and that it affects the picture as much as it does (I never wiped my Note 5 camera and I never had such shot interference) but with a clean lens the shots are pretty awesome.
     
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    It's funny because we both arabs lol
     
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    man the comments that the bloodhawk makes are very dangerous :rolleyes: :p
     
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    I slapped on the glass protector that came with my screen tempered glass and that repels fingerprints like pretty well.

    Contrary to most of my Arab friends who crave iPhones lol.

    HUEHUE? :p
     
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    are baba ye kya he? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
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    Haha, just a matter of weird laughing we use to communicate with our Peruvian brethren in online games.

    Kinda surprised you know hindi hehe.
     
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    welcome to Dubai..... Mere pas purana ghadi baba! :rolleyes:
     
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    Thread. /derailed

    ...

    Again! Lol

    Whatever floats your boat @Phoenix. The iPhone SE feels like I'm going to break it. I mean even it's case, my 10 doesn't fill my hand. It comes close but yeah. The iPhone feels like a toy.
     
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    Check what it says under my Avatar.
     
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    I noticed that earlier this morning. :p
     
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    you know what they say brah, great things come in small packages. I have a Spigen Neo Hybrid Metal slate own it to give it a minimalist design with good protection :p

    I will hang on to this until the next best good thing is out.

    Meanwhile, I received 0 calls for the HTC 10 even though I am selling it for $544 USD and it is in brand new condition with 2 year warranty :rolleyes:
     
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    JESUS Mayne, i should wait for your purchases and then the verdicts. Could have just bought it off of you lol. If mine didn't just get delivered.
     
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    you know you always get stuff from me in brand new condition for less :p and I would always give you a discount since you are my virtual friend
     
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    But then again, the 0 calls might be a sign from the universe telling you to keep the phone.
     
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    very true, literally 0......nada...... maybe HTC would release an update to fix the WiFi battery drain before I sell it to temp me to keep it
     
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    You'd be surprised what most people actually do on their phones. Up here in the Cold White North, phone plans suck. So a lot of people have 1-2GB of data or less, so they don't actually do much that requires a big screen. Calls, texts, music.

    There's a reason that the 4" iPhones still account for a fairly large portion of the phones Apple sells/has sold/are active, and that the iPhone SE is sold out everywhere.

    I figure there's two types of people. Those who do "everything" on their phones, and therefore require a big screen. Then there's those who just text/call/listen to music, and they prefer a smaller screen.

    Also, keep in mind that as Android phones have gotten bigger, people who didn't want to be a part of the Apple ecosystem have been left with little choice but to buy a big phone (when's the last time a sub-5" high-end Android phone was released?). The only small Android phones (besides the Xperia Z5 Compact) are low-end phones with sub-par screens. Android OEMs got confused - people were buying bigger phones, but there were still a lot of people who wanted smaller phones. Samsung made the first Galaxy Note, then the Note 2 and Note 3. They started selling well, so they started making bigger "regular" phones. Other companies saw this and assumed their success meant people wanted bigger screens/phones, and weren't interested in smaller phones anymore.

    Have people been buying bigger phones because they wanted them, or because nothing else was being offered? My gut tells me it's probably a rough split between the two. If Samsung releases a 4.5" Galaxy S8 next year, I'm sure it'll sell really well (assuming it has the same specs as the "regular" Galaxy flagship).

    Some people buy 5"+ phones because...that's all that's available. Walk into any store and try and buy a phone that's under 5" and isn't low-end junk.
     
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    Yeap, Android ****ed up the market with it stupid screen size BS.

    But then again i would prefer a device between a tablet and a 4S than 2 separate devices.
     
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    I was actually going to spring for the Z5 Compact if the 810 wasn't such a poorly designed chip. Did not want to deal with the headaches and Sony never updated it to the 820, so game over in the small phone market for Android
     
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    Took the words out of my mouth bro
     
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    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    Exactly, we are left with no choice, first with the introduction of touch screen phones which I still despise then the death of RIM and physical keyboards (don't tell me PRIV it has the BlackBerry contacts app built in which randomly deletes newly added contacts) and now the bigger screen the better mentality of most manufacturers making it the norm, heck if it wasn't for the iPhone SE we would have been with 0 choices right now. This is coming from a guy who despises iTunes but have to suck it up
     
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    Motorolla Milestone baby. Best Keyboard ever.
     
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    Is that a last gen phone? They don't sell them here on Dubai
     
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