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    iPhone XS, XS Max, and XR announced

    Discussion in 'Smartphones and Tablets' started by Raidriar, Sep 12, 2018.

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    IDK, I use Android out of the box and I don't get stuttering or lags, it runs smoothly, and it keeps running smoothly as I install and configure it for my use.

    The tuning I do gives me better performance and longer battery life. I do the updates, and it just works all the time reliably, for many years - I keep the same smartphone for at least 3 years, and they all perform flawlessly over that time.

    There's no intricate magic involved, but I am careful not to clog it up with lots of crap, and I do clean on a regular basis.

    As much as use them, they collect a bunch of cruft quickly, so the more often I tidy it up, the better it runs.

    The complaints I hear from iphone users about Android seem hollow to me, knowing how well it works for me and everyone I know that uses Android.

    I know of far more hardware failures for Apple computers and iphones over the years, fewer Android / Windows computers fail over that time, and far fewer UNIX / Linux servers and workstations fail in that time.

    To each their own I suppose, but please don't make hollow repeats of the commonly mimic'ed complaints about Android, it's not pretty to those that know it ain't so. :)

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    I've been in IT since I was 18, I have been everything from a Windows Systems Administrator, Exchange administrator, Citrix administrator, Cisco Network Administrator (certified), RedHat Administrator (certified), VMWare Administrator, currently a DevOps Engineer and primarily write code in python/go/ruby/java/.net and work with building integration and automation with Oracle Commerce, AEM, Sitecore, Hybris along with SAP solutions for a SI. Please don't confuse me with someone that is captivated by shiny things.

    With the above said, the only apple devices I have are my iphone, ipad and watch. I had a macbook pro a few years ago, but got rid of it after a year as a dell laptop running pure Linux with a Windows VM (mainly for .net development even though mono has came a long way and outlook) fit my work and development style and homebrew/macports just don't cut it.
     
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    So how in the world does the iphone still have your interest?

    Haven't you wanted to explore Android's technical opportunities for learning and development?

    Working with engineers and managers that still use Apple iphones, iPads, etc, I wonder the same thing, and discuss it with them.

    It's another interesting view into human behavior, each have their own odd reason for continuing to fund apple, spending higher and higher amounts of cash each time Apple comes out with a new gadget.

    I do understand from their point of view why they do this, and discussing it with them seems to help some break free from Apple's siren like appeal, others take a little longer.

    Having a device you don't need to think about, among all the other devices you need to manage at work is a good reason to have an Apple device.

    It's a thoughtless non-demanding device, and if it stops working - with Applecare in force - fixing it is someone else's problem. This is appealing to many engineers and managers, it seems odd to me, but there you go.

    Apple's solution is always to throw more and more money at Apple, to keep the good feels going.

    With Apple's carefully constructed mind control - which btw seems to be wearing thinner and thinner the further Steve fades into the past - everyone in the Apple sphere of influence is happy to continue this parasitic symbiosis - good feels for stacks of cash.

    But, then again, it's just a phone, right?

    Sitting down and thinking about it that way is a good place start to unraveling the tendrils Apple has placed in your brain, demanding stacks of dollars a year just to make a few phone calls, send some texts, keep appointments, and set some alarms.

    It's pretty wild when you think about it, how much is spent on so little.

    How many lives would be changed with all that cash back in their hands to improve their health and well being, rather than sit in holding accounts earning interest?

    Apple pays off its $15.4 billion Irish tax bill
    The EU has withdrawn its lawsuit now the full amount is in an escrow holding account.
    https://www.engadget.com/2018/09/19/apple-pays-irish-tax-bill-eu/

    All that money, taken from unsuspecting people, distributed back to investors, sitting unused in accounts all over the world.

    And, Apple can't think of anything better to invest in than the iphone Xs, Xs Max, or Xr. Upping the ante each year, taking more and more cash for little more every time.

    What has gone wrong at Apple?

    Nothing, Apple is a cash generating machine. Welcome to the machine. :)
     
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    What were trying to convey? I didn't understand.
    I was talking about stock rom that had micro-stutters most of the time, but flashing a custom rom fixes that for me. I couldn't pin-point what's causing it! Custom ROM makes my device just like new. Whenever I see lags, I just TRIM the filesystem with vdc or fstrim and lags go away.
     
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    I haven't needed to flash a custom Android rom on my primary carry device for many years, I haven't even rooted my S7 Edge, no need, extensions for permissions allow system apps I use to gain access without rooting. And, it runs stutter free on the stock rom.

    Stuttering? What stuttering? Doing what shows stuttering?

    Specifics please, generalizations of stuttering and laggy response when using Android are easy to drop in a conversation, but I never see it.

    IDK what you did to cause the stuttering, or what you think is stuttering, so please help me understand what it is you are doing to see it, and how it manifests for you.

    You shouldn't need to manually Trim, Android does this automatically. I haven't needed to do this manually for a long time.
     
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    The comments in both these video's on youtube are a treasure trove of fun. :)

    iPHONE XS MAX 512GB: Android fanboys are 100% WRONG!

    Bigtruckseriesreview Motorsports
    Published on Sep 22, 2018


    iceon8312 6 hours ago
    I would start ww3 for ios and Apple

    Galaxy Note 9 vs iPhone Xs Max - Full Comparison
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    Published on Sep 21, 2018
    In this video, we will do a full comparison between the Samsung Galaxy Note 9 vs the iPhone Xs Max. Both the note 9 and Xs Max are the best smartphones Samsung and Apple have to offer and everyone wants to know which one is better. In this video, I will give you a precise answer on which one to buy. Let's dive in.


    craig 4 days ago
    I love how isheep still think Samsung is still laggy we're not in 2012 anymore

    Isaiah The Great. 3 days ago
    You said they feel like a million dollars don't give apple any hints

    Decently Average 1 day ago
    "They could definitely double this price, I wouldn't mind" STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP
     
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    So my dad's s7 upgraded from 6->7->8 w/o clean install, does that influence any performance issues?
    my dad rarely play games, he basically stream videos. Switching between 10-15 apps does cause a micro-stutter sometimes say 2 out of 5 times.
    I don't like iOS or iphone one bit not because they are expensive but its too fragile with glass back. And that horrendous rarely justifies the returns I'm getting!
    I'm still getting used to android just like I tried Linux 6 years ago!
     
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    Switching between apps you see a "microstutter"? :)

    Ok, so I guess Android is broken, and not for you then. Now I understand. :)

    IDK man, I don't "see" microstutters, I see apps loading and unloading, just like on any OS.

    I thought you were seeing microstutters when watching a video, or streaming, or playing a game, or some other situation where a microstutter would interrupt enjoyment of app usage of some kind.

    And, yes I updated each month with the latest security patch when it became available. And, sometimes it was an OS upgrade. So far none caused any problems for me. After an OS update I also did App updates to make sure I had compatible apps. I'd often clean up as well, just to be sure. Check for new system processes to sleep, etc.

    Again, I don't have any smoothness or stuttering in app usage, and when I am flicking between apps I don't notice anything out of the ordinary in response.

    And, yes I have UNIX experience since 1978 or so, and it became a large part of my profession full-time soon after, so that gives me a good foundation for learning hardware and OS tuning, but it won't take you long to do the same, probably sooner given the leap ahead in where you are starting out.

    So, keep it up with Linux's and Android, and enjoy iOS / MacOS - but remember closed systems have built-in limits and a heartless nasty money first overload in their caretaker, so be careful. :)
     
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    With my S7 Edge, I noticed a decent amount of microstutters when entering and leaving the home screen when using the Touchwiz Home launcher. They magically disappeared when using Nova Launcher. I've never rooted my S7, installed a custom ROM, or trimmed anything but my hair and nails. I honestly think a lot of problems that people attribute to Samsung's skin are actually just problems with Samsung's launcher, which can be addressed with a simple installation of just about any popular third-party Android launcher (Nova Launcher Prime, Microsoft Launcher, and Google Now Launcher being three popular options).
     
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    IDK guys, I don't "see" microstutters, I see apps loading and unloading, just like on any OS. Those aren't "Microstutters", please stop calling it that.

    Call it a delay when "app switching", or "swapping apps", or something completely different than "microstutters", because when someone says they are seeing microstutters, I think "in game microstutters" due to SLI or some other hardware issue, not app switching.

    "Micro stuttering is a term used in computing to describe a quality defect that manifests as irregular delays between frames rendered by the GPU(s)"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_stuttering

    What is microstutter and how do I fix it?
    By Jarred Walton 2018-07-22T15:27:00Z
    Looking at the causes and solutions for frame pacing problems.
    https://www.pcgamer.com/what-is-microstutter-and-how-do-i-fix-it/

    Glad to know this Android problem, isn't a real problem, it's attributing the wrong term's of description to an action - an action that is normal as hell, app switching - swapping in and out of service, in and out of memory / SSD is going to have visible cues if under the right conditions, where you've hit the limits of what is kept in memory.

    App switching isn't a measure of anything useful to worry about. If you are measuring a device / OS by it's app switching when you have 15-20 apps running, you aren't simulating real world things - you shouldn't keep that many apps open anyway.

    That's like keeping 15-20 tabs active and wondering why the browsing is slowing down, or why the browser is using so much memory.

    Close some damn apps / tabs once in a while, it's you the human that must make intelligent actions for the OS to deal with, don't load it up with crap and expect it to "deal with it".

    I do blame it on Apple / Android's handling of Apps, keeping them open and not closing them even when the user selects exit, so learn how to close apps - or close all - and do that once in a while.

    On iOS / Android some apps will reload even with enough memory free - when it runs alone or with only a light load of apps - because that's how the app "optimize"'s their footprint on the OS.

    There are far more important things to worry about, and far better reasons to pick an OS / device.
     
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    That is one small reason, between the 45-50 hours a week I average at work and the other 25-30 I spend trying to get my startup off the ground, it pays to have something that I know is dependable and that I can get repaired/fixed in almost any major city in the US usually without fuss and without even having to leave the store or wait for parts. As I stated when you're phone helps to make you money it's uptime is just as important as the uptime of your equipment in a datacenter. Another reason was poor performance with my last hearing aids when I tried switching to android again early last year. I went through two phone's but I had a hard time hearing callers on the other end whereas my iPhone didn't. I work with a lot of coworkers who have strong accents, and when you are 80% deaf in both ears your hearing aids are already working overtime trying to compensate and having phone issues only make it worse. Four months ago I went and switched to MFI hearing aids that do streaming akin to Bluetooth headsets so that locks me in for a few years as I don't feel like buying another set of hearing aids (phone prices can't compare to hearing aid prices). I am not against android at all, I'm also not one of those people that forces my family to use iPhone because of imessage/etc. My ex fiance and her son still have the android phones I bought them because that is what they prefer.

    As much as a cash cow Apple is, we can't deny that Google isn't just as bad.

    Google still exploiting tax loopholes to shelter billions in overseas ad revenue

    With all that said, I have dived into android development in the past and also into ubuntu phone (basically android kernel with ubuntu userland and gui... I really wish it would have took off as I enjoyed it) development when it was gaining the little traction itself. I have compiled the OS for both systems, flashed roms when I had android tablets and developed some small toy applications for fun a few years ago. I don't have the time for that right now due to everything going on in my life and what i'm trying to accomplish with my startup.
     
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    Hey, when it's the right time you will know.

    The main thing to remember is to not be too hard on yourself once you do break free of the reality distortion field(s), one by one, it's not your fault - you have a wide range of cross supporting efforts all working against you waking up.

    It's a great feeling to be free of it, it still makes me smile even on the "worst" days of my life.

    Good luck in your startup, enjoy it all. :)
     
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    hmscott:

    I'm not talking about a delay in launching an app or app launching times at all. I'm talking about dropped frames in the animations while entering and leaving the homescreens. Call it what you will, but nobody would have thought I was talking about GPU rendering in a game.

    I wasn't saying it was the most important issue when buying a phone. I was simply talking about when it did and did not happen on my S7, and what I think caused it.

    I can have a conversation about what makes my dog fart, and it didn't mean that I hate my dog or I think dog farts are the world's worst problem.
     
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    Depends on how smelly those dog farts are.

    I see stutter when scrolling on Android phones and not on my iPhone.
     
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    This exactly. It just works. I press a button (okay, icon) and a function happens or app opens. Every time. Then I press that big button and the app goes away. Every time.

    All my android phones and windows mobile phones before them I have owned, have been flashed with custom rom or otherwise needed customization to work the way I wanted them to. It was fun, like a hobby at first. After a while I decided there is better things to do than tinker with a phone when all I use it to do is make calls, text, read email and launch apps. I get to tinker with stuff and repair machines and software all I ever need at work, I don't want to continue doing that on my free time.
     
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    echos my sentiments exactly
     
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    This, in my experience, is a great selling point of iOS (though I don't own any of the new, home-button-free iOS devices, and I still question getting rid of that home button).

    On the other hand, with my iPad, I still really struggle when I step outside of that "one app, then another app" framework and try to use multiple pieces of software in conjunction, like a tiny touchscreen PC. For example, "download a document from the web browser and then email it to someone" or "download a meme image off Facebook and text it to my wife." These tasks often seem unusually hard to pull off to me, especially if I'm using third party apps, like Outlook instead of Apple's mail client. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I always struggle with iOS when I step outside of the one-app-at-a-time paradigm (that, admittedly, it absolutely knocks out of the park).

    I think there's a place for each and I'm not a rabid fanboy of either. I mean, I own a Pixel 2XL and an iPad.
     
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    That's the frustration I have with using iOS, the multi-app usage, it's not well designed for multiple dialog / window overlay with a paradigm for moving them around. Given that limitation I don't see how iOS can progress forward. There was talk of iOS on Macintosh hardware - or merging the OS's - let's hope that comes together on the side of more window management freedom.

    This is also probably the main limiting factor for tablet usage as well, as people are used to more freedom when using Windows / Linux to manage multiple apps / tabs with window / dialog control.

    This goes for iOS mostly, the Android Samsung DEX and multi-app screen tools are at least moving forward in the right direction, and the forward movement is continuing to make the "phone factor" size work as a total PC solution.

    iOS and mostly Apple's culture to "dumb things down" is what drove me from Apple, and of course the abandonment of MacOS in the datacenter + no real progress on the MacOS that followed that decision - why build better scaling and performance into the OS when it's designed to be thin for use on an "Apple Fan's" Starbucks coffee table - an affectation - or "set dressing", rather than real computer use.

    Apple was in a position to move the masses forward in computer knowledge, but instead it went with facile interfaces, thin form factor, and ineffectual progress in uplift of technical knowledge for everyone.

    Non-thinking interfaces and hardware lead to non-thinking people. It's as simple as that, and I've seen it when working with people - trying to help them comprehend their tools for work, and moving them forward past the Mac into Linux / Windows / Android is a true uplift for them mentally and work effectiveness wise.

    Apple went for the easy money selling shiny baubles, instead of doing the hard lifting to help society - something all of their engineers wanted to do, thought they were signing on to do - in the first waves of Apple this was still true.

    Anyway, enjoy your iphones, but try to learn more and be self sufficient enough to not need the training wheels and fischer-price interfaces. There is so much more out there. :)
     
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    We are past the "need" for custom Rom's, I've experimented with every generation of Android as time has gone by, over many years, and starting with Android 6 - somewhere in there - I was able to live on stock rom with some tuning, then on 7 and above with Android added extensions for permissions no rooting is required, and I am running completely stock on my primary carry phone.

    Are there more things I can do with custom rom and rooted?, sure, but I wanted to have at least one device I can run stock for myself, and find a recommendation to give to others that they can run without all that extra OS tweaking, and so far it's been working for me.

    Greenify is less needed with latest Samsung battery tuning tools, a nice ccleaner like cleaner, a vpn if desired, adblocker - allowed with Samsung Internet browser it includes extensions for filtering / adblocking and there are several good free choices.

    I also like to reduce my functional load outside of work, and the improvements in Android and Samsung tools allows that to happen.

    And, if I want I can still dig deeper with other Android devices I have, but I can run my primary carry as close to stock as I want to - avoiding time wasting efforts while trying to enjoy my outside of work time.

    Try it, you might like it. :)

    Android 7/8 have been great, and 9 was upgraded yesterday:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/samsung-at-t-updated-s7-edge-to-android-9-0-pie.823270/
     
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    Please let me know what app(s) that is happening in, and I will take a look.
     
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    Dropping frames in animations? Entering and leaving the home screen? Leaving into what, from what?

    I mentioned before that I do disable all of the OS animations as I don't need them for visual cues, and I find it saves battery usage. I never saw glitches when they were on.

    Please go into Settings => Developer Options, and disable these animation settings:

    Window Animation scale - Animation is off.
    Transition animation scale - Animation is off.
    Animator duration scale - Animation is off.

    The only option I have in that settings area set to On/Enabled is:

    Stay Awake - Screen will never sleep when charging / plugged in.

    I use this for convenience when plugged in the screen doesn't sleep, I have the timeout set for 10 minutes, and when I don't need the screen on I turn the screen off manually with the power button - or I close the flap on the case lid as that automatically turns off / on the display.

    There may be other settings that are in by default in that Developer Options area, but I have them all off now - it's been a couple of years since I initially set it up. If you see other options enabled that have to do with "making it pretty", like GPU rendering or MSAA, they can be disabled too - let me know which other settings are on by default.

    There are other settings in other sections that may apply, check them out.

    Once I have the settings done, I don't need to change them, but I do review them for new settings when OS level updates occur.

    I don't get any glitches set up on stock, but I do try to disable as much "eye candy" that sucks GPU / GPU for no good reason to reduce draw on the battery.

    If you like the eye candy, try reducing the "count" of animations, I think it was defaulting to 3x, and I initially tried 1x, but decided it didn't really interest me so I disabled it to reduce power usage.

    It is possible that if you are moving quickly through the interface that the animations aren't done when you touch to move forwar and the current animation sequence get's "cut off" mid-play. As a programmer I would need to choose to continue the current animation or choose to "chop it off" rather than finish the full play of the current iteration - so that might be what you are seeing, and I am not. Disabling the animations should solve it. :)

    Please let us know what you (or, whoever else wants to try adjusting these settings) find, thank you!

    How to enable Developer options in Android
    1. If using stock Android, go to Settings > About phone > Build number. On a Samsung Galaxy device, go to Settings > About device > Build number. ...
    2. Tap Build number seven times. ...
    3. Go back to Settings, where you'll find a Developer options entry in the menu.
    https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-get-developer-options-on-android/
     
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    As I mentioned before. it was side by side with the iPhone x and the note 9. Just in the OS, when you scrolled down, things stuttered and look jittery. Where as on the iPhone, everything was smooth.
     
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    In the OS?, what are you scrolling? The home / icon pages don't scroll, the settings scroll - is that what you are talking about? What OS section(s) or app(s) were doing this?

    I don't see any glitches at defaults on the Samsung S7 Edge, I'm assuming someone played with the demo unit settings and screwed it up before you got to it to "evaluate" it.

    Demo units aren't good samples for evaluation - unless they are fresh out of the box or reset to default settings.

    Next time check the settings or ask them to do a factory reset before evaluating. And, try Disable the animation's too, just for fun.

    I don't get any scrolling glitches at all in the OS or apps. The animations settings might play a role, but even at defaults I don't notice any glitches, hitches, or snags.

    Think about it. If off-putting glitches like that were normal do you think anyone would buy the Android devices or be able to live with them? I sure couldn't, so think about saying these things before posting them thoughtlessly.

    For those of us that own Android devices and live with them for many years, millions of people, to us you look silly or inept in your ability to not solve the issue yourself, and be defeated to the point you are forced to get an iphone. :)
     
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    No I won't try... I'll rather have me next a i9-9900k and a matching motherboard than a new phone :D
    (yea, all the top models are way too expensive)
     
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    Here's a good reason to get an iphone / iOS device over an Android one, it looks like iOS is getting it first(?).

    https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1040068765092900864
    https://bethesda.net/en/play/blades

    The Elder Scrolls: Blades – Apple Presentation
    Bethesda Softworks
    Published on Sep 28, 2018
    The latest look at The Elder Scrolls: Blades featured stunning environments and enemies rendered with all-new visual effects and post-processing techniques that push the limits of what’s possible on mobile.
    See idyllic forest shrines, traverse foreboding caves adorned with luminescent crystal, square off against the sorcery-wielding might of the Lich and face Tamriel’s ancient and powerful dragons – all on a device that fits in the palm of your hand. You can pre-order The Elder Scrolls: Blades here: https://beth.games/2xLJYRX
     
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    Try the LG stylo +. 460 cdn up front and a great device
     
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    So since we are on the iOS, Android discussion (actually surprised it hasn’t turned into a flame fest). What are your thoughts on Google’s Fuchsia OS. I know not much is know about it publicly yet and it will probably be at least 2 years before we even see a device with it (unless google sunsets it and rolls some ideas into android).

    Personally I like that it appears getting away from java as a main development language for apps and focusing on more native language like Go, it even supports apples Swift from what I read. Apparently you can install it on the pixel chromebook at the moment, but I haven’t had a chance to play with it myself. I also like that they are developing a true HAL for the new micro kernel they are writing, this should allow for faster updates to the base OS without having to wait on manufactures and carriers to update drivers. If they support the API that they provide for the driver you could see 5 year old devices able to run the latest and greatest version.

    I’m hoping they don’t scrap it and it actually becomes the next generation android. Faster updates, better optimization for applications due to native language compiler options, and longer device support would definitely make me consider switching at that time.
     
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    That's what I am talking about, sanely priced smartphones, $299 unlocked:
    https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-Q710ULM-Unlocked-stylo-4

    AT&T wants $359, or $12.00/mo:
    https://www.att.com/cellphones/lg/stylo-4plus.html#sku=sku9210308

    That's what Apple needs to do, stop emptying their main-lining clients pocket books and let them buy what they can afford, instead of forcing Apple fans with average income to go without lunches to afford an iphone.

    Samsung has figured this new reality out, and they are going to offer new features in mid-range phones, people aren't willing to keep mortgaging themselves for new $1000+ phones every year:

    Samsung is packing more tech into its mid-priced smartphones to appeal to millennials
    Published 6:38 AM ET Mon, 3 Sept 2018 Updated 6:12 PM ET Mon, 3 Sept 2018
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/03/samsung-switches-mid-tier-smartphone-strategy-to-boost-growth.html
    • Samsung plans to overhaul its smartphone strategy at the mid-range price point in order to appeal more to millennials, the company's mobile CEO told CNBC.
    • Instead of introducing new technology in the flagship Galaxy S and Note series of devices, DJ Koh said Samsung will look to bring in cutting-edge features to its cheaper models first.
    • The first of the devices with the new strategy will be released later this year.

    Samsung to Introduce Premium Tech on Mid-Ranged Galaxy A-Series Phones in 2019
    04 September, 2018 13:10 IST
    https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news...d-galaxy-a-series-phones-in-2019-5110061.html
     
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    Well, something like this has been in the works since before ChromeOS. A full Linux was the model for the eventual phone / mobile handheld device, but the hardware at the time wasn't quite there yet.

    There needs to be hardware out there to populate with a full featured "desktop-mobile" OS, and I don't know what the targets specs would be, but that may be what is behind the sudden growth in RAM sizes.

    Whatever it ends up being called, I am looking forward to a full Linux + GUI that can integrate across the line, from budget to flagship, so the pull up of specs needs to happen in the low and mid-range phone's as well.

    Here's the latest article with links that seems to have considered all the angles:

    Google Fuchsia release date, news and rumors
    The future of Google’s Android-Chrome hybrid OS
    By Joe Osborne 2018-09-26T20:05:58Z
    https://www.techradar.com/news/google-fuchsia

    "Don’t expect Google Fuchsia to surface any time soon, though. Right now, the speculation points to Fuchsia running within the next three years just on smart home devices, with a full public release coming within the next five years. However, even that seems to be an extremely shaky rumor – we’d be surprised if we saw it release before 2024, if it ever actually comes out."
     
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    Apple's iPhone Xs Max is Pointless!
    Pocketnow
    Published on Sep 28, 2018
    For nearly five years, the Plus version of the iPhone always meant you got more. Not only did you get a screen with more resolution, but you also got a much bigger battery (for example, the iPhone 8 Plus has a 47% bigger battery than the 8, while the 6 Plus had a whopping 61% bigger battery than the 6; But this year the increase is only 19%). Not only that, but the Plus models would bring more advanced camera systems. For example the 6 Plus had OIS but the 6 didn’t, and then the 7 Plus and 8 Plus brought dual cameras, unlike their smaller versions. And Plus models also had different software to take advantage of the bigger display, such as a homescreen you could use in landscape.

    But now, with the XS Max, which is the biggest iPhone ever, you’d think that bigger actually means you’re getting more, but it turns out you’re not. After using it for a week, I’ve learned that the iPhone XS Max is actually kind of pointless, and let me explain to you why.
    iPhone XS and XS Max review
    The Verge
    Published on Sep 18, 2018
    Apple's new iPhone XS and XS Max are familiar territory with two key updates: a faster processor and an upgraded camera. Oh, and the XS Max has the largest screen ever found on an iPhone. But is that enough to justify the very high cost of the best iPhones you can buy?

    Correction: Nilay misspoke! The iPhone XS Max has a 6.5-inch display, not 6.8. The XS has a 5.8, and the XR has a 6.1.
    iPhone Xs and iPhone Xs Max Review
    MobileTechReview
    Published on Sep 22, 2018
    Lisa Gade reviews Apple’s 2018 flagship iPhone models: the 5.8” iPhone Xs and the iPhone 6.5” Xs Max. New for the X line is the Max phablet size option, mirroring the iPhone Plus models of old. Thanks to our sponsor, Ultra slim and minimalist cases by Caudabe: http://www.caudabe.com . Both have a borderless “Super Retina” widescreen OLED display supporting HDR 10 and Dolby Vision, improved dual 12MP rear cameras with a Portrait mode 2x zoom secondary camera, Apple A12 Bionic CPUs and iOS 12. FaceID, Apple Pay, Bluetooth 5.0, Gigabit 4G LTE and a dual SIM (1 is an eSIM for most countries) design round off the features. It’s available with 64GB, 256GB and 512GB of storage in your choice of space gray, silver and gold colors.
    Apple Watch Series 4 Review
    MobileTechReview
    Published on Sep 24, 2018
    Lisa Gade reviews the Apple Watch Series 4, also available with 4G LTE. The watch is available in aluminum and stainless steel finishes in two sizes: 40mm and 44mm. The OLED display is 15% larger than previous models thanks to smaller bezels, without making the watch larger—in fact it’s 0.7mm thinner. The Series 4 is compatible with existing Apple Watch bands and come with a wireless charger. It ships with watchOS 5, and new features include a forthcoming EKG module, low as well as high heart rate monitoring and notifications, a fall sensor with optional emergency services alert and Walkie Talkie voice conversations with other Apple Watch owners. The 40mm aluminum model starts at $399 and unlocked LTE 4G adds $100 (service typically costs $10/month with carriers). The watch is waterproof and swim-friendly. It is compatible only with iPhones. Apple will continue to sell the Series 3 at a discounted price starting at $279 and $379 with LTE.
     
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    The stylo4 is a cheaper version of the q stylo + that we get up here. More ram, NFC etc come in the plus.
     
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    More innovation for Apple. " Next year , we will remove the charging port " ...
     
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    And charge with Body heat just like the Matrix. So here comes a question, is Apple the Creator of Matrix for putting walled gardens and pulling out plants they don't need!
     
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    Its their lock-out mechanism detecting data access which they blocked unless its unlocked. I get huh-huh! tone everytime I connect iphone 7 to my PC. Disabling USB accessories in Face Id will fix it. Its a buggy code.
     
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    iPhone XS Max Review: The Phone I Hate To Love
    MrMobile [Michael Fisher]
    Published on Sep 29, 2018
    tl;dr like something's, but price + accessory charges vs. variety of choice for less on Android = sticking with Android...
    A long video for a big phone: the iPhone XS Max Review is here!
     
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    #Chargegate...?

    Louis switches to iPhone XS

    Louis Rossmann
    Streamed live 3 hours ago

    Brand-new iPhones already BROKEN?!
    TechLinked
    Published on Oct 1, 2018

    #Beautygate...?

    My iPhone XS Max Is Doing Something Weird...

    Unbox Therapy
    Published on Sep 26, 2018

    #gate's

    iPhone "Gates" Explained!
    Marques Brownlee
    Published on Oct 1, 2018
    #beautygate. #chargegate. #bendgate. What do they all have in common?
    Official Apple Antennagate statement: https://apple.com/newsroom/2010/07/02...

    The TRUTH about the iPhone Xs #ChargeGate and#BeautyGate
    front page tech
    Published on Oct 1, 2018
    EP. 743 - The TRUTH about the iPhone Xs #ChargeGate and #BeautyGate. Let's actually talk about #BeautyGate and #ChargeGate... I think more context needs to be added to understand what's actually happening.

    Watch "The YouTube Tech Community is a Dumpster Fire": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S4cx...

    Watch "4 Reasons Why the Cheaper 2018 LCD iPhone WILL Sell More Than iPhone X2 & iPhone X Plus": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYXNd...
     
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    Two Weeks with iPhone Xs! Beauty Gate! Charge Gate?!
    iJustine
    Published on Oct 6, 2018


    Pinned by iJustine
    iJustine 27 minutes ago
    "LET'S GET ROWDY IN THE COMMENTS!!!!!"
     
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    I don't like her reviews one bit. Earlier, she was really appreciating non-Apple products but now she posts videos just for giggles. You should see the look on her face when she reviewed note9 with her sad face when reviewing build quality and camera. It made me feel, Samsung had a sniper aimed at her head.
    Beautifying face or smoothing out notmal face isn't SMART HDR.
    Well, at least MKBHD,Linus tech tips, unbox therapy,Louis Rossmann,jerryrig is honest in their reviews.
     
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    iJustine, is an Apple fangirl - look at her channel name... i justine? :)

    Knowing that from the beginning, I still enjoy her reviews...here's a good example of iJustine in her natural habitat, embracing the Apple Reality Distortion Field:

    First in line for iPhone Xs!
    iJustine
    Published on Sep 21, 2018
    So fun visiting the San Francisco Apple Store for iPhone Xs and Apple Watch Series 4 launch!
     
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    Yeah and her macbook are really a *dongle* mess. Linus seb. said this is what Jon Ive wanted from Apple fanboys(girls).
     
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    They're all slow and massively overpriced. Paying $750-$1,100 for something that's only worth $150 to $300 (max) is totally absurd. But, Apple owns the phone and the user, so they get to play god and decide when to make it even slower.
     
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    Well my wife will never leave the apple Eco system, her excuse is that she has invested in so many paid apps (over a 100) so she can't switch. Every year, she has to buy a new iToy because the old one gets so laggy it's not usable for her and she relies on it heavily for work.

    This time, her latest $1500 USD iPhone X 256GB didn't even last 6 months before the new batch of phones were released and what do you know? here phone became laggy as hell after the last update that she finally got sick of this BS and bought a Galaxy Note 9 this time! At freakin' last! She switched!
     
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    Gotta say the S Pen is awesome
     
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    That's really sad news.
    If you haven't traded it, can you tell what 3utools says in Phone info and especially SSD when you have time? Try a security erase or whatever Apple calls a full reset in 3utools. I'm eager to know which SSD/MLC chip is it using? Micron, Hynix or Samsung?
    I suspect that lag is attributed to Telemetry data that runs in background logging everything from RAM,CPU usage to locating your every move every minute and sending it to Apple along with Apple id for unique ID'ing where your phone is.
    Optionally, install a developer profile beta iOS 12.1 and stick with it to get rid off the lags.
     
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    I call BS on the iPhone x slowing down from apple. I am still using my 6s and it's just as fast as the day I bought it.
     
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    Wow that iPhone debugging / fix sounds like as much "trouble" as maintaining an Android device!

    Are you sure it's not a better idea to simply purchase your way out of that slow iPhone by giving Apple more money?, like a good Apple fan? :D

    If you have to go through all of that "hard work" - thinking things through to a solution to fix an iPhone the same as an Android phone - what's the point of thoughtlessly buying an iPhone in the first place?? o_O
     
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    I perform the cleanup when charging the device. I charge the iphone every 4 days when my mom comes to me saying, please charge this phone.
     
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