Official x300/x305 Owner's Lounge

What about the third kit from the top in this page (KHX1333C7S3K2/4G)
Kingston Technology Company - HyperX SO-DIMM - HyperX memory is now available for notebooks!

If I put one of those in my x300 wouldn't it run at 1066mhz 7-7-7-20 with the default fsb? (thus giving me room to fsb overclock as far as 333 mhz without the memories failing)

Not planning to buy the 4 gb kit, I just want to understand how the 8gb kit that will be released would behave if I used it in my Qosmio.

 

Well, yeah, first post after registering.

Looking for infos about my Qosmio x305-q725, and saw this thread has a lot of activity.

I've been dinking around with virtual box, and trying to run games on both at the same time, etc, and have been pretty much maxing out my ram. So I started looking around, saw this on newegg, looked like a pretty good deal: Newegg.com - G.SKILL 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Laptop Memory Model F3-8500CL7D-8GBSQ.

After a bit more searching, came across this: http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/product/pdf_files/detailed_specs/qosmio_X305-Q725.pdf

Maximum allowed ram 4 gigs? doesn't seem right... Is this correct?

Second question:
The graphics card (9800mGTX) likes to overheat and crash the computer when running certain games... I got Frontlines: Fuel of War during a steam deal, the game overheats/crashes my 'puter after only maybe 15 minutes of play.
In single player, Battlefield: Bad Company 2 can do the same thing. Doesn't seem to do it during multiplayer, but there is a very noticeable drop in framerate once it gets hot.

Just wondering if I can do anything to prevent it from overheating/crashing, etc.


Thanks.

 

The spec sheet is wrong.
I have 8 gb's of ram in my suped up X305-720, and it uses the same motherboard as yours.

Keep in mind that motherboards in general, but especially laptops can be very picky about what brands of ram they will work with. I usually tell people stick with the brand installed by the factory or the high end Kingston memory, but some others may also work.
Also remember that there were two different motherboards used in X305's, so what works in an Nvidia chipset system, may or may not work in an intel chipset system.

 

Throttlestop to overclock the CPU:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...ock-core-2-extreme-multiplier-windows-27.html

I used this to overclock my x305-q725 with upgraded CPU to the QX9300 O'c to 2.9ghz

 

For the overheat issue u can open up ur laptop (if that is possible for u or take it to a tech) clean it and replace the cooling paste with the latest arctic silver. That did the job for me. No more overheating! Furthermore if ur x300 came with just 1 cooler u can add the 2nd one which is intended for cooling just ur gpu.(if u have the slot on ur motherboard, some of the intel motherboards didn't have it). As for ram I am still searching myself!

 

That doesn't allow to raise the FSB, so it's useless for non-extreme CPUs :|

 

Hey and welcome to NBR!
Those ar the same modules I have just in 1066Mhz And the max supported RAM size is 8GB.

Try to clean up the inside of your laptop. I have never heard about 9800M GTX crashing. I got one my self, and never let me down that way. (It did'n anotherway either )

 

Does anyone have a clue?

 

I don't believe that it will screw on ur new mobo since toshiba uses different places for the screws than other brands. If u can find a way to keep it in place with the heatsink and if ur bios support the gpu then it should work. (those are a lot of ifs so I wouldn't go into the hussle trying it!)

 

But not for the same model? I belive there is nothing diffrent between Intel x300 and nForce 305? But, I mean the stocket. I don't remember who it was (kenny?) which had both and said Intel designed GPU's (Toshiba stocket) did not fit on nForce chipsets (which again uses Toshiba stocket)

 

I agree with above. and I will add as well, these laptops were released at a time when all that was known was 2x2G Sodimm modules. But the chipset in general had support for 4G density sticks. In fact it can run1333 or 1600 as long as it has a Jedec spc (pre programmed settings) for 1066 (which most I used do so far) The only benifit from higher spd RAM will be if yo plan to FSB overclock or just want a good resale value later when done with them. 1333/1600 will have far more future use and resale then old 800/1066.

I used two of these Qosmios and I had good experiences which each in almost 5yrs. They have mostly al to offer in performance as the big expensive units but just not the most heavy duty build, So if you're rough or clumbsy with it or have to expose it to a commercial work inviroment it may not be the best pick. For those who take good care and stat put for home or school use, it's great.

The heat has been an issue for most gaming laptops, and especially if you use on lap of bed or carpeted floor. It's just not a good idea. Keep on hard flat tables or desk and as sugested, open up and clean periodically as well as add a 2nd fan if you dont have the 2nd GPU already. Memory will also overheat and causes unstibility. There's headroom inside the RAM compartment, you have enough room for a thin fan of 40x10" and can be connected to extra fan pwr connector if you have one or tapped in to another, run it at low volts as it doesnt need much air. Cutting a bigger hole with screened vent will help alone for RAM area.

I'd say if you actually have the parts to just try it and report back. I think we'd l be curious or at least for our Qosmios.

Also, What FAB overclocker for PM45 Intel version then. Does ClockGen work on mobile Intel? Where's the PLL chip on our Intel PM45 mobo? Are they different from 1 Intel to the other?

 

No, thats the problem I do not them

 

gotimekill i cannot use the PM service dont know why,
do you still have the QX9300?

Im very interessed, can you reach trow pm? (thanks)

 

You need 5 post for that

 

Ho i didint knew that, i been around this threat for a while now i have the X300-156 and i realy need the QX9300 or the
Q9200 because my 2x9800m gts are geting low performance
with my Q9000.

If i am wrong i would apreciate some tips.

 

How much RAM do you have? Do you have a SSD or HDD?
However, QX9300 will for sure give you a performance boost! What model do you have?

 

Using 2x4Gb DDR3 1066 (bought these so i could OC by fsb)
Corsair.

SDD 80Gb OCZ as main and the 7200rpm 320gb as secondary.

Its the Qosmio X300-156.
The problem is realy the performance in 3D
Example i can only push my Q9000 to 2.377mhz
giving me 11k or so on 3dmark 2006, and in games
like Black Ops the game runs some times slower then 40 frames, tho i noticed a high improvement
when overclocking the 2.0ghz to 2.3ghz.

I wanted to buy the Q9200 or the QX9300 but with unlocked multi.

 

Ah - I see. Go for the QX9300 if you are first going to buy a new CPU!
My laptop in my signature (, not a Qosmio) make this out of Black Ops;
http://forum.notebookreview.com/toshiba/306522-official-x300-x305-owners-lounge-344.html#post7095569

 

Lappie (or anyone else who has the knowledge), could you answer this question please? It might sound stupid, but I'm very interested in this.

 

I'm gonna guess you have the nVidia chipset so I would for sur ahve gotten 1333 RAM for the room at only a fraction more to OC as 1066 (unless claimed to be tested higher) is gonna limit you at some near point without a vdimm increase or loose timings . Do the timing mods work on the nForse chipsets then? If so you may be fine. Mushkin, G-Skill, Crucial have been great OC'rs if given a tad more vdimm @ same timings. So far you got nice parts, good job on the SSD, I'm bout to do that as well.

 

Yes, the 4g kit (KHX1333C7S3K2/4G) does load to 1066 @ 5-5-5-15 but as for how high can you go on those tight timings I cant say. The 8g kit will of course have less headroom to OC on fixed timings /vidimm just cause of higher RAM density. If you can loosen timings manually somehow, that'd be awsome. If you can do a higher FSB OC then you may want the XMP "X" version since it's default Jedec specs will be 7-7-7-20 2 1066 and planty of room to OC as RAM will be strapped to 1066 as you up your FSB.

 

Oh, so the non "x" version will load as 5-5-5-15 while the "x" version will load as 7-7-7-20, even on my Nforce chipset. Then i'm definitely going to get the XMP 8gb kit since I need room to raise my FSB. Thank you for the reply!

EDIT: has the XMP version been tested at 1333mhz 7-7-7-20? If so, I'd have no problem in raising my FSB till 333mhz at least.

 

For you those have Intel chipset, I've got the Memset which works with Windows 7 Let me know if you need. You're able to lower or raise the timings as you want. But again, on Intel chipsets raising will give no benfit as it is not possible to overclock by FSB.

 

Guys, how is the Toshiba Qosmio with T9600 and 9800M GTX for 875 USD?

 

If works on Intel mobile then yes. I have the desktop Intel version already. Does not even open for PM45 under Windows 7 on Mobile Intel.
Link please!

 

Hehe, I have uploaded it here before for ummm, I can't member who it was, but yet again I can do it for you beautiful Qosmio X300 owner Standby, I have to switch computer.

EDIT:
Here you go
Disable UAC before use!

 

Does anyone know if we can get backlit keyboad on the qosmio x300? If yes how?

 

Tunjay, does it allow to edit the CAS latency as well?

 

No, it needs a extra connection, which is not possible. There is one user here which did try it, can't remember who it was (sgilmore62?)

Ah - I do not know my friend. And since I do not run on Intel chipset now, I can't try either.

 

EDIT:
I do not know if you will belive this or not exile.90, but it has a option to edit CAS# Latency (tCL)

 

I'd love if we could do that on our Nforce 730i :|

 

I do not know if it works tou
But the option is there Hope lappie can try and let us know..

 

Isn't this the 8gb kit we're looking for?

http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/KHX1600C9S3K2_8GX.pdf

It's the XMP version, it says it's jedec 1333 9-9-9-27, but has been tested @1600 9-9-9-27. I guess this would run as a 1066 CL7 in our systems, and it should be able to run at 1333 cl7. Am I correct?

 

Yeh that sounds good, for that it should defiantly sell, I was kinda sad when I sold mine

Yeh I am sure it was him, even though he got no back light the keyboard looked much better then the stock one

wow I cant believe the amount of activity on this thread now!

 

I have had my laptop open before, so that's not a prob. Where would I get a second cooler?

 

Thanks!!! It worked.

Yes, the user mentioned is the guy. PM him and ask for a part number and you can order it here as he did. http://www.nationalparts.com/Parts.aspx?mfg=Toshiba It did mount just fine as he told me last year. I dont know if he got the lights to work to date but you just need to tap into a source such as touch pad or top corner lights or just install a tiny button in back. I'm gonna order it as soon as I get the part # and I will post back when he responds or maybe he'll chime i here soon. I found a Blu-Ray Burner too that fits so we can really upgrade this. I'm looking for a Pioneer BD next to replace a used Sony I'm moving to another notebook.

Yes, this is exactly what MemSet is for. It is only a temp set during windows but you can save profile to load as each time you load app and I think it can be programed to load with windows. it doesn't change vdimm. That will be SPDTools to change vdimm as well as write in timings to module eprom

 

GPU Heatsink? I looked up my old GPU cooler part # and it indicates from Toshiba prts that the quad core Q725 uses a different 45w version of heatsink (# K000063170 ) then the 35w version (K000063160 ) my Q705 has in it. but yet I see another parts house list the same heatsink # K000063170 for a Toshiba Qosmio X305-Q712 (PQX32U-05Q01NB) which is using a dual core P series 25w. Can somebody who went from a dual to quad in a Q705/Q701/Q712 speak of the differances in temps and by how much on same heatsink? Are the nForce heatsinks the same profile shape as the Intel versions?

The fans do appear to be the same if you remove the unlarged shroud off the CPU/VGA one. However, if for us not using the 2nd VGA It looks like we can leave it as is in length and have room to fit snug against single VGA heatsinkin. Screw pattern appears to be the same as wll. i will open up during the weekend and report back.

 

Well you can find it on ebay. U will need the part number which I cannot gice u now since I don't have a screwdriver and stuff to open up my laptop (since I am at uni). Ask in this forum I am sure someone will be able to give it to u! Make sure u have the additional plug for the 2nd fan on the motherboard. If not u will need to make a mod so that u fit both on the 1 available slot!

 

The second fan you can get from ebay or Laptop Parts & Repair, Notebook Computer Repair, Printer Parts - Spare Parts Warehouse the part number is K000061950. And yeh check to see if you have the a socket in the motherboard to plug it in to

I think your confusing gpu and cpu heat sinks
the as far as gpu heat sinks there should only be 2 types one for the 9800m gtx and 9700m gts and an other heat sink for the sli model.
For the cpu heatsink I would have thought that they all had the same one, some people have upgraded to the quad cores and had no problems with heat

 

Awsome Lappie! But we can still not overclock FSB

Kenny, I've sent you an P.M. tell me what you think

 

No, I was only speaking of the CPU heatsinks for each a 35w and a 45w. I understand we say they look alike and this may be true, same for fans then I'm sure. But just to note, they are different in terms of part # from Toshibe for whatever reason. So untill somebody with both in fornt of them will shre we have to asume there is some srot of factory part differance or they would have kept same manufacturing part # for both. I'm not saying it won work as it seams to be but only that there appears to be some sort of change in part. My guess would be that it had more fin count or more copper or thicker heatpipe.

Same exact thing for those fans. many different part numbers but only reall change I could see is RPM and watts/amps They (all the ones I posted here earlier) all have same mounting. The only differance I pointed out is some have a boxed shroud for the CPU heatsink but it comes off, leaving the fan identical in physical shape to the CPU part # version. It looks like you will need to make your own 2nd shroud if you do not have a 2nd GPU to direct the air out.

For example, i just opened an IBM quad and it has a dual copper heat pipe v/s the single for its dual core model. as in most laptops I see copper fins in the 45w models. Can somebody with a factory quad photograph their heatsink parts when open next just to share? The 35w X305 part is single pip copper , but aluminum chock pads and fins.

 

Guys, I've just got my Qosmio running up again
With a T4500, 9800M GTX and 320GB HDD

But I've got one question, does the ethernet port work without the modem part?
http://www.epartsandmore.com/product_info.php?products_id=1933

I want to remove this as I never use my laptop as modem -.-

 

@tunay,

If that is the card currently installed in your Qosmio, then it should not be a problem to remove it and it should not affect your "LAN" port.

AFAIK, the LAN port is not a "card" like the modem - it is on the MoBo.

In Peace and Agape,
Trav...

 

Cool! I'll remove that one than I do not like things I do not use

 

What is the part no for the quad core cpu fan? I may have the same as my core 2 extreme has 44w which is really just 1w difference from the quad.

 

Z305-Q725 part numbers:

CPU, CPU/VGA 45w Heatsink = K000063160
CPU, CPU/VGA 45w fan = K000061940

X305-Q706 part (quad core with SLI
GPU 2nd fan = K000061950

I will try and open later today to look again and photograph.

What is the link for the Windows 7 x64 suport BIOS utility? I dont see t this time on the link I normally go to, Toshiba Support Homepage . Any advantages for latest BIOS for quads if already mostly working fine?

I still have NO on/off control of led's anymore since clean install of Win7 x64 over a year ago.

 

Mine works perfect the on/off for led's since bios 1.6. I had problems with fn keys though which were fix on the 1.7 bios. The latest is 1.8 . I have installed it but I see no differences.. I use the uk site which is : http://support1.toshiba-tro.de/tedd-files2/0/bios-20100511102122.zip

If ur using the intel chipset then download this: http://support1.toshiba-tro.de/tedd-files2/0/bios-20090415093411.zip The latest is 2.1 for the intel chipsets

PS: don't know if it is good since I am using the nforce chipset. The differences in part numbers, I believe are due to different chipset and gpus. all the nforce chipsets have pqx31e and the intel chipsets have pqx32e . More over when I saw the fans on the site they had different part number for the gpus but not for cpu. Anyway since I cannot open my laptop now I cannot tell u my part number.. So let us see if anyone else can do that for us! (just out of curiosity since I am updating my x9100 to a qx9300 during the easter period hopefully).

 

I can't turn them on/off as well... The utility that allows to do that stops working for unknown reasons and I'm sick of reinstalling the Value Added Package over and over again. Also, I do not like keeping Toshiba's services running in the background nor starting on boot.

If you need control over the lights/leds just install the Value Added Package and run the "dimmer.exe" application located in C:\Program Files\Toshiba\TBS. It's a software switch for those.

 

eh sorry i just assumed because people had swapped to quads with no problems before

 

I don't know! I never get crashes! I use the latest VAP although the flashcard utilities I use are from a satellite version. (because when I installed win7 there weren't available for my laptop). Anws everything works fine with the toshiba drivers. I only use the 258.96 display driver from nvidia (modified) since it gives the best results in both benchmark and in game experience!