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    Toshiba X305-Q701 Disassembly...enjoy

    Discussion in 'Toshiba' started by cq842000, Aug 8, 2008.

  1. Red_Dragon

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    anyone put an X9100 in this thing yet?
     
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    cq842000 Notebook Evangelist

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    I put an Intel C2D T9600 in mine.
     
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    How much did it cost to buy the Intel Chip?
     
  5. cq842000

    cq842000 Notebook Evangelist

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    Waaaay too much. You might be better off waiting for the prices to go down, when i7 mobiles are released.
     
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    So it's possible that our Qosmios will support the i7 chips huh? I do hope so, after all the hype on it...haha...i'm praying
     
  7. cq842000

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    Not sure, and perhaps Intel will have to release mobile i7 chips. Only time will tell.
     
  8. sgilmore62

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    Are you getting any stability issues? I want to put the x9100 in mine and with the price, and trouble and risk of disassembly... also want to upgrade the thermal compound on gpu's maybe add a fan like you did.
     
  9. cq842000

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    Nope, none at all, everything runs tip top. Disassembly is actually pretty easy, just take a look at the pictures I posted at the beginning of this thread. The only problem I am having is with Toshiba's incompetent technical support, always giving me the run-around when I try to purchase a better gpu. The tech guy said your model has two gpus ( two separate gfx cards) requiring two different slots. I think he just has his head in the clouds, being over payed and under-worked. Perhaps if and when you disassemble your beast you could verify whether it's two individual cards, running in SLI like he said, or if my suspicion is correct and it's only an X2 solution( dual gpu on single card) in one slot.
     
  10. Bartlett

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    Also your q706 model already has 2 fans.
    And I am pretty sure that there are 2 9800M GTS's in SLi.

    Also, glad to see that your using my clocks and ram timings Cq, you will definitely have stability and a huge boost in performance. But one question, is there another available input on the mobo for another fan to connect?
     
  11. cq842000

    cq842000 Notebook Evangelist

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    I just PMed you the news. In regards to another connection, no....unless you tap the usb. I've found that there is almost NO bias or drain, when splicing the primary fan with a secondary of the same voltage requirements. I'm using a 5v secondary fan, and I'm now confident in a good overclock as my temps are finally under control. Also thank you for pointing me in the right direction with the SPD timings....as well I have noticed quite an increase in multi-tasking, encoding, decoding, and game loading performance.
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    Just hit 10205 in 3DMark06!!!
    http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v...My Qosmio/?action=view&current=3dmark06t2.jpg
     
  12. cq842000

    cq842000 Notebook Evangelist

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    The Images for my fan modification are here http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v720/christopherquinalty/Qosmio Mods/ . Honestly, it's not the prettiest mod, but unnoticeable under the case, and it works. This was just the fabrication stage(produce a working model), next I can fabricate a new sleeker design. Previously my single fan struggled to control the temps in the case, especially when overclocked and gaming, now it's like I installed turbines, because as soon as they kick on, they have to kick right back off, due to a lack of heat to warrant the sensor keeping them on.
     
  13. sgilmore62

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    Should I get the X9100 or QX9300? At first I thought the QX9300 would be the hands down winner, but with no bios overclockability the [email protected] wins out over the quad at 2.53ghz right?
     
  14. Bartlett

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    Your welcome. And yep, I knew those RAM timings would help. :cool:
    10205, nice score, you got 1000 higher!
    And I see with the fans, it looks pretty good so just disregard my pm because i didnt know u posted the pics yet...but i may not need to do it because of the cooler...regardless, if i do add a fan, i will get the same one that is already in there now..
    And I would probably get the quad....the extra 2 cores substantiate for the 500mhz less in clock speed....unless the x9100 is much cheaper, get the qx9300.
     
  15. oziel

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    That looks pretty nice, also functional. Do you know the size of the fan? you remember?
     
  16. cq842000

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    Thank you, now my gpu temps idle at 52c with a superclock and never hit above 63c under full load whether gaming(Crysis) or benchmarking. I think it's a 60mm, but it has a slimmer form-factor than a regular case fan. i'll get back to you...
     
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    I found this fan to fit and perform much better and in close profile to the CPU one installed. I used a pull from my old retired ASUS P5ND2-SLI wich was used to cool the power mosfets. Lots of ASUS high end mobos come w/ a fan or 2 or one can be found on eBay. I would imagine better models can be found online too.

    http://www.viperlair.com/images/reviews/cpu_mobo/asus/intel/lga775/p5n32/fan.jpg
     
  20. cq842000

    cq842000 Notebook Evangelist

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    Very Interesting...Thanks for the info.
     
  21. Bartlett

    Bartlett The Prophet

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    Yes, it is quite interesting...if there is anything you want on the 1st page of my thread, just ask and i will see what i can do.
     
  22. narsnail

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    this is a bit old, but I will be testing out if my X7800 will work in this machine, it should since the sockets are the same (P), but im slightly worried about the heatsink, since the TDP is jumping from 25watts to 44 watts, I know its higher end models carry the newer X series, im just not certain they carry the same heatsink.
     
  23. cq842000

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    Judging from the form factor, it should work with no problems, except that the machine will run at the processor's specified FSB and not the full 1066, which is unnoticeable at best. I had a T9600 which has a TDP of 35 watts, with no problems.
     
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    Hey Dude55, any way to get this out to benefit the community is welcome.
     
  25. narsnail

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    The X7800 is 800 FSB so no worries :)

    its a pretty old processor, it would not like it to go to waste though, cause it is still quite quick.

    Although the coolness of this P7350 is killing me, maxing @ 39 under steady work and idleing at 25 UVed.

    Also can anyone confirm any OCing options in the BIOS, setFSB etc?
     
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    Yeah, thats a no go for the bios OC, and for setFSB, its rumored that Toshiba opted to lock down the FSB and PCI bridges. Rumored, but personally I think that SetFSB could work whenever the PLL is supported, as the Qosmios with the Nvidia chipsets can overclock quite well.
     
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    oh well, 2.6 is still plenty quick, 3.0 was a bit too hot anyways. thanks for your help
     
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    Anytime, thats why I'm here. Feel free to rep......
     
  29. Bartlett

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    ok i added ur link to the first page of the thread
     
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    CQ842000, just wanted to thank you for your Toshiba x300/x305 disassemble guide. Helped me alot. not sure how to rep msg me.
     
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    Whats the quickest way to getting to the CPU? Thinking about going to a p8600 soonish sense its like $260 but i cant figure out where exactly the CPU is on this laptop.. on my Lemon HP it was right near the RAM plate.
     
  32. SouthernYoung

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    I was wondering about putting the quad core QX9300 @ 2.53 GHz or the core 2 duo @ 3.06GHz...I have a stock x305-q701...would there be any heat problems? Has anyone ever done this before? I'm sure someone has...the core 2 duo that's in there comes out easily right...I've already tore down my computer, display both covers, all the way down to the motherboard, so I can get to it failry easily, but I've never removed a CPU from anything, thats a new one...any advice? also, any idea on which one to get...
     
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    help is greatly appreciated...
     
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    go for the quad, it will outperform the higher clocked duo's in multi-threaded applications. heat and power consumption should be OK with the 45w qx9300, just make sure you use a quality thermal interface material like tuniq tx3 or Arctic silver 5.
     
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    I was already planning on going with arctic silver...how can you be so sure the heat will not be a problem?
     
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    oh yeah, and the duo's speed is so much faster...it really seems like it would almost be about the same for gaming and defly faster for things that still cannot utilize the quad core...anyways, I'm leaning that way...ahh, I still don't know...
     
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    Some X300's and X305's are equipped with QX9300's and X9100 processors and users are not reporting heat issues. The thick Qosmio chassis is adequate for thermal management. The author of this thread added a second fan when he upgraded to a T9600. The 701's don't have a second fan in the second fan slot. btw, I wouldn't bother with an extreme processor as you will not be able to overclock it. Paying for unlocked multipliers is a waste because Toshiba BIOS do not allow overclocking. I can overclock the CPU in my 706 because it has an Nvidia chipset.
     
  38. SouthernYoung

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    Overclocking would be nice, so the extreme processors cannot be overclocked with x305...what about the quad cores? Probably not...Ok, I have a few things that just don't add up in my mind. What is the difference between the T9900 and the X9100?!? They have the same speed, core, Front side bus, but different max TDP...This doesn't seem right...but I do believe the T9900 is cheaper...that's the one I'm thinking of going with at the moment...oh yeah, I did a little repping, cuz this help really is appreciated...
     
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    oh yeah, and the T9900 will fit into the P socket right...
     
  40. SouthernYoung

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    And Toshiba says that they don't "think" that my laptop has a chance of handling such power...the problem is their representatives try to think...he couldn't tell me for sure that my motherboard couldn't handle it because he didn't know which one it was...He was GUESSING for pete's sake, I could do that...I love their technical support! I might just try it out and cross my fingers...
     
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    You can order a QX9300 from HP parts right now for $502. Not in stock but orderable. The Qosmio X305-Q708 comes with a QX9300. Just make sure to update BIOS prior to CPU upgrade.
     
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    Thanks dude...I'll have to check that out...ok, the P7350 that is in there is a P socket of BGA479 according to intel...the ball grid array type aren't quite as easily removed from the motherboard right? So, is mine in there not a BGA? if I can't remove the processor I can always get the motherboard for the 708 and put the QX9300...I'm pretty sure that would work...then I could put another graphics card in there too...has anyone removed their P7350 from their q701?
     
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    You dont have to change mobo, it's the same P socket for the processor. You can upgrade gpu to 9800m gtx with your intel chipset. The 9800m gtx is $500 also. The processor is easy to remove once you get to it, just turn a screw counterclockwise and it will lift out.
     
  44. SouthernYoung

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    Wow, thanks...huge help...first time I took it apart and found it I didn't think one screw and it would lift right up...I'll take it apart to see again...does that mean that I still must get a BGA479 type processor if that's the one coming out...
     
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    Micro-FCPGA is what should be coming out.
     
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    ok, I took it apart last night...I saw everything...reached enlightenment...pink bar on mine is the same...it say mPGA478 socket...but...I thought intel made only BGA for that particular processor...strange to me...and I'll probably go with the quad...it sounds like a great deal...
     
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    Oh yes, and about the upgrade of bios before the CPU??
     
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    finally broke 9k for 3dmark vantage 9100
     
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