explain to me why I'm running 3dmark06 at around 4500 score?
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See for yourself!
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Because that's just the way you roll my man, just the way you roll like that.
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what ?? if that is the free version and the res tested at is 1280 x 1024 that is a great score better than some other 8700gt systems ive seen
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Thanks! And yikes, that's SERIOUSLY crippled! I wonder if it only has 4 ROPs too. That's a much bigger difference than the 8600GT to 8700GT from the looks of it.
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exactly what he said, last time i checked you don't have a 1280x1024 screen or higher.
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*sigh do I have to take a screen shot to take of everything? I'm limited on my resolutions 1440x900. hence the x 900 it could not do the x 1024....so it scaled down to the 1280x 854.
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do you have an external monitor to try it with??
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Yes I do. it's a 19" widescreen. If the res is downsized still that much we know it's not low at all and I guess some people are trying to deny the end result. But to known fact in real world tests I do know the CPU is the bottleneck. I plan to upgrade it anyways in the future.
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the cpu will have hardly any effect on the 3dmark score.. if you can run the test at the 1280 x 1024 and post score it will put everyone's denial to rest.. no i know if i decide to tomm i can go get me one
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I'm talking about real world tests like in games.
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yes i know that im simply comparing 3dmark scores to know if it is really ddr3.. the only thing i question is the ease of the cpu upgrade someone else stated they had to literally dissasemble the entire notebook including taking off the lcd and actually taking out the motherboard.. a lton of work for a cpu upgrade
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true true, but it could be done but carefully I guess.
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duran can you tell me if the dual 120gb drives are in a raid array or are they independant? thanks again
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I think independent. I'll double check later.
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The drives are independent of each other, same as on my X205-9349.
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thanks very much
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x205 9349 for $1499 on amazon. $1456 on buy.com@pricegrabber
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What is that supposed to mean? if i buy the x205 from amazon for $1500 and say 20-25 days later the price on amazon drops to $1300 i can get 200$ back?
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^^^ well thats amazon's policy
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how to do that?
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They are practically giving these things away!
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yes they are.. the reason its making it so hard for me to pull the trigger on the clevo 570ru... id save nearly 300$ overall buy getting the toshiba instead.. just not sure i can get over its looks i just dont like the red/black cover..
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Hey, new to the boards but had a couple of questions... I bought one of the x205-S7483's from Best Buy this week, been playing with it a few days... so far pretty happy with it, but wasn't aware of the other options with the X205's... so, here's my question...
This was $1350, minus $100.00 in free games i can hock (actually have them for Xbox 360 already, good games though), so roughly $1300.00... I've since found the 9349 at circuit city for 1499.99, and it seems like a little bit better machine, prolly worth the little extra... but, then CompUSA has the 9359 for $2099, and currently seems the fastest of the 3... but, then the SLi's are on the way I just discovered as well, so was curious how those would compare... I've done all the reading I can find, but can't find any good numbers... any idea how the 2 8600m's will compare with the single 8700m? Do plan to slightly overclocked the 8700m atleast back to nvidia spec or a bit more? And how bout memory... did you guys determine the 7483 I've got now has GDDR3 or 2? And 256 versus 512... will that hurt performance any on in this system?
Sorry for all the questions, but bottom line, trying to decide that for somewhere around $2000ish, will go towards 2500 if it was really worth it but would rather not, would i be better keeping this 7483 and upgrading processor and harddrives with the extra cash when needed, get the 9349 for a little more and maybe upgrade a little later, go ahead and get the 9359 and keep it as is indefinately, or wait a few weeks and get an SLi1 or 3 and be done with it? Can't determine what would be the preferred route, don't mind doing the upgrades if that is ultimately the better machine, but just not sure how good this 7483 compared to the other systems is in the first place... worried it might be a stripped down system to get into best buy so cheap other than the obvious chip downgrade and no hddvd drive.... coming from an older Sager 4780 running a desktop pentium and ati 9600, so do love the much cooler running Toshibas! Thanks for any input! Do really like the layout and feel and look of the X205's!
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My understanding is that you can't use Nvidia reference drivers on systems with Intel chipsets and SLI. Which basically means there's a good chance your second GPU is going to be worthless. Because of that I'd rather have the single faster GPU.
The 9349 model is probably the best deal. Basically $150 for a CPU that's probably effectively two speed grades faster plus an HD-DVD drive (which I think is kind of worthless, and I'd rather have Blu Ray, but still). Oh, and apparently the video RAM is faster too. Better deal IMO.
The lower model isn't bad though! I'm absolutely astounded that Best Buy actually has gaming laptops (first time in YEARS) and I'm even more astounded that they've got one for $1350! I really couldn't believe my eyes when I first saw that ad.
The higher end one isn't worth the jump in price IMO. Basically $600 just for one CPU bump and double the video RAM (which will be mostly irrelevant on these GPUs).
You also get a higher resolution screen, but I personally WANT the lower resolution screen, both because there's a better chance a game can actually be driven at that resolution (if you're not using an external monitor) and because I can't stand super high resolutions at the Windows desktop. -
what you all have to remember is SALES TAX... buy the 49 model.. the best buy one will end up near 1450 anyway... after taxes..so for 50$ you get a better cpu and hd-dvd, intel turbo mem, and poss faster clocked v ram
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So the 9349 does have faster VRAM? I haven't seen anybody say 100%? And as far as sales tax, I'll be getting either the 9349 or keeping the one I got at besy buy local, so tax for either.... only wild card is if I'd be better off having the SLi models with the dual 8600's, can't find a definate answer on how much or if they'll even be that much better than a single 8700m? Dunno, what ya think? Always like this buying laptops i guess, always the next best thing coming up, same when I bought my Sager and got the ATI 9600, and the ATI 9700 was "coming soon".... ha
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You said you're happy with it overall, so I'd say keep the one you have. You could upgrade the processor, ram, and hard drive(s) when those components go down in price if you decide you need them. Unless you encounter something you can't do (like play a certain game) the x205 you bought should hold up pretty well.
The 700 clock speed (which is usually beyond ddr2 capabilities) suggests that the best buy model likely has gddr3 despite what best buy and Toshiba's websites report. Even if it is ddr2 running at 700mhz that isn't far off from the speed that other 8700 equipped systems. -
9349 now $1499 at Amazon, which has no tax or shipping in most states. It's sick how fast the price is dropping on this one.
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im sure its because the sli ones going to hit the web with benchmarks soonish and if the numbers are that much better most people ie gamers wont want to touch this or any of the single card models.
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back up to $1826 on buy.com....
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I really don't get this , unless its ~1200$ shipped there is no real value in this model .
You can get the SLI model for less then 2000$ shipped , I don't see why would anyone buy this crippled model or even the s9340 for 1500$ .
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The second GPU in these SLI models is probably going to be worthless. With one GPU you can easily use reference drivers, so you can run any games on them. With SLI you're stuck waiting for special drivers that allow SLI on Intel chipsets, which won't ever be updated more than a handful of times.
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no it is not faster, all the 8700gt's are the same. and no the VRAM amount will not matter at all.
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Wolfpup - Exactly my thought on the sli models, with Toshiba's record of releasing new drivers the guys with the sli models will be waiting a couple of years for new drivers by that time the rest of us will have already bought the next generation laptop systems.
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Where else can you get a notebook with a 8700gt for this price?
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also as of now they dont work properly on vista..
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You can do a google search for X205-9349 or 9359 and it should bring up some results.
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is the price on amazon for the X205-9349 just a limited time only deal or is it really a price cut? i'm confused on whether or not i should buy now or hold out for the real price cut
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No I think that is the new lowered price, I have seen the same price at Fry's Electronics at the stores that still have any 9349 laptops left on inventory.
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so it would be safe to buy right now?
am kind of excited about this sudden price drop....
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i do not think these will drop much farther. if they do ill be shocked..
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Maybe I should have wrote "SLI" model .
With that you get a better CPU & HDVD .
With the s7483 you get a 8700 with DDR2 ?!
I agree with the driver issue to a point , it seems Nvidia has SLI implanted on newer drivers so I hope its going to be fine with the help of laptopvideo2go .
Sure I'd prefer a single 8800m due out "yesterday" , but for now I might get the X205 SLI or the 1500$ model , it would be easier if it wasn't for the tacky lid and size ( is that a body builder holding it in the Toshiba photo ? ) -
it is not ddr2.. its ddr3 this has been shown over and over again...i didnt believe it at first either but its def ddr3 no question
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haha do you know something your not telling us
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13.5 pounds!
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*shrug* Makes no difference to me
I mean I guess it would if I had to march with it for 30 miles a day through a swamp or something, but I think I can bring it in from the car
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Yeah, to and from the car is OK, but not much else.
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13.5 pounds wouldn't be much more on your back, considering it has to hold up your whole body weight and more (backpack maybe, your clothes, etc etc)
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how would the x205-s7483 compare vs. the G1S-X1 ? Any details on this? the G1S-X1 has the GDDR3 ram on the card and a faster processor for just 100$ or so dollars more.
X205-s7483
Discussion in 'Toshiba' started by tenchi0001, Sep 27, 2007.