Official Sony VAIO F Series Owners lounge *PART 2*

For the best colorsettings you must calibrate your screen or use one of the profiles of other F owners: http://forum.notebookreview.com/6017649-post1099.html

You can only get rid of Vaio Update by uninstalling that program, but I don't recommend that, it only uses 560kB and can help you by keeping your Vaio up-to-date.

I don't understand your problem with IE, maybe a screenshot or more explanation will help?

 

The screen profile link that gandalf gave you will help with the contrast and colors in the screen. Does your screen also have a lot of backlight bleed?

A normal US f11 1080p screen has a bit of light bleed at the bottom. Pics of a normal (not defective) screen:

Picasa Web Albums - sjlee.712 - Vaio F
Picasa Web Albums - sjlee.712 - Vaio F

 

Uh....not necessarily. Search my posts for a comparison of the differences in the advertizing for the Premium RGB LED on the F11Z premium black laptop and the advertizing for the Premium display on the other F models (we're talking the 1080p screen).

There may be a difference between a Premium screen and a Premium RGB LED (the latter has sometimes been referred to in UK advertizing as a "professional grade" Premium screen).

There is some reluctance on this forum to consider what the advertizing has clearly suggested. The only proof would be a side-by-side comparison.

P.S. I have an FW190 here with the dual-lamp CCFL HiColor screen -- and during boot-up when the screen is black-grey and the Windows logo is running in Vista, the lower quarter to one-third of the screen exhibits exactly the lighting issue you seem to describe. It is absolutely normal for a dual-lamp CCFL screen (as some of the luminosity charts show). However, for that backlighting distinction to be visible and truly disturbing during regular viewing is NOT normal, so you may simply have a defective screen.

 

We're not talking about "Premium" as used in European advertising here Derrida, and whatever it may actually be. We're talking aobut a Matte sscreen, whatever else it's called. There have been no complaints about the European matte screen. Don't confuse the issue.

 

How much more powerful would you speculate the mobile i9 is to the i7-820QM that i'm using?

The only reason I would consider a processor upgrade for the new F series notebooks I plan to buy is if it will make a considerable performance jump in 3d rendering times.
Let's say by half of a one hour file the i7-820Qm will take to render. If it's a matter of 5-15mins less, then it's not worth it.
(Considering that the combination of a new GPU + i9 affects performance as well)

Thoughts?

 

We are indeed talking about a Premium screen in the UK whose advertizing described it as Premium and matte (and not a word about RGB or LED) and for which the forum member paid extra English pounds -- and which is NOT the model F11Z which is the model in the reviews which indisputably has the RGB LED Premium screen.

"Confusing the issue" is forgetting the facts of the situation presented to us by the forum member.

 

I just really hope that the bleed issues with the screen disappear with the update. As much as you people might cry "value" spending over $1000 on a computer is a lot of money for people who don't make much.

 

Again, the FACT that he paid extra money and still got the shading issue is my point, which you're missing. It is not the cheap screen, the one that's SUPPOSED to have shading issues on the defective ones.

All I'm saying, and I'm sure this is too profound for you, is that ANY screen can be defective. Therefore this has nothing to do with advetising or PR crap. That's all, why is this so difficult for you?

 

Thank U Gandalf,
iam trying all the profiles for managing the colors yet am still not so happy i feel the screen is faint i do no its not true bright like the FZ series.
Or may be i will get used to it soon.
about the IE its not the IE problem but i attached a picture showing what i mean, as when u take the mouse curser to IE all the web pages came aside to each other yet i want them to come on a list instead of coming a side and distract me.
thank You

 

mangosango, i dont think that i have a backlight bleed i think my screen is normal

 

That's Windows 7, ALL multi-instance programs do that. It's called taskbar thumbnail preview, or Superbar.

Windows 7 Taskbar Thumbnails Preview How to Enable/Disable or Turnoff

Windows 7 features - Windows Taskbar - Microsoft Windows

 

The fact that the screen is likely defective is not "lost" on me but the forum member does not seem to be describing the exact same issues that the single lamp CCFL North American "Premium" screen has, nor have we heard this complaint about the European Premium screen on this forum. In fact, some of the symptoms described make one think that there could be an issue with the light sensor as well. And it could be a different Premium screen, non-RGB. Why is all that so difficult for you?

BTW I'm sure that needless incivility is not lost on other forum members, either.

 

The point is that you're wordy and over-analytical. I said any screen could be defective, you started bringing in the tired old horse about misrepresentation in advertising etc, which had nothing to DO with the subject. Sony is not going to knowingly install defective screens, then cover their rear-end by advertising them as "premium" or "Superior" etc. A defect is a defect, it happens.

No EU MATTE screen had so far had a complaint about either bleeding or shading. A bit at the bottom is normal and acceptable, extending halfway up the screen with a washed out image is NOT normal and acceptable, it's a defect.

 

I have no problems reading the text on my 1920x1080 screen, and I've used the 1600x900 ones as well.

The 1600x900 screens have a narrower horizontal viewing angle and less contrast. Just saying!

 

But you are a young buck, right? What about old farts?

http://www.cheapfunwines.com/archives/wine-news/new_update_on_old_fart_wine.php

 

I have the 1600x900 screen and it looks great to me. I can't find any problems whatsoever. I watched a movie which I downloaded last night (Kick-) and it was perfectly fine..

 

The way you detect if you have light bleed is playing a movie that have lots of dark scene/movies from hulu. Under regular desktop use, you dont see this issue.

I have the 1600x900 before and I thought the text looks smaller then the 1080p at the store.

No light bleed?

 

Thank you for the creepy graphics. My boy and I loved it.

 

Ad hominem ad infinitum....

 

Time for me to chime in about the screens...

Exactly FOUR 1600X900 screens have passed through my house in the last 8 weeks. I tried to keep the last two until my new F with the "premium 1920x1080 screen arrived, but the delay of my unit prevented that.

The 1600x900 screens were all the same. They were brighter at the bottom, but in no way "washed out". They had a narrow viewing angle. They all look about the same. In fact, I just got back from a meeting where all 4 of them were lined up on the same side of the table. I walked past each one and they all looked alike.

My 1920x1080 screen is definitely a better screen. Don't ask me what model it is or what the number on the inside is...I will not take it apart. I can tell you that it is slightly brighter on the bottom. It is very sharp. The colors and contrast are much better. I have calibrated it with Huey. It looks fantastic.

That being said, I guess that I should not really comment because I have never used a multi-thousand dollar reference LCD. My calibrator is not a several hundred dollar model. My eyesight is not nearly as good as it used to be.

You can discount my comments due to all of these shortcomings. On the other hand, this computer replaces my 8 year old desktop. The desktop utilized a very nice Dell Ultrasharp 1708FP. This laptop has a better monitor!

Perhaps I have no idea what a really good monitor is. I will say that this one is enough to impress me.

Bill

 

Argumentum ad infinitum... ad nauseam!

 

Now i could not get it???? am playing a movie with dark scene..... then what??? how to get if there was light bleed?????

 

might i ask, why are you asking that question? if you've gotten that far and have not noticed any problems, then why search so hard for one? if theres noticeable light-bleed, then you will notice it. whether you know what you're looking for or not. and if you don't, then theres nothing wrong with it.

 

fatpandas, true but i never asked about it, it’s just came in the discussion, but anyway ur right i don’t think i have that problem, but i was asking for the screen color setting and i got the answer, yet am still not getting used to the screen although so far colors look much improved, yet generally am not so happy with the screen when it comes to compare it with my older FZ series, may be they intended to do it like that for power saving or the technology for relaxing the eyes I don’t know, but what I know that the late FZ reviewing angles was indeed much better.

 

The osd of the volume stopped showing all of a sudden. Brightness shows as used to. Any suggestions?

 

The original laptop I looked at was the VPCF11S1E/B and the specs say "VAIO Display Premium", this has a Matte screen but no mention of LED backlight.

http://www.sony.co.uk/product/vn-f-series/vpcf11s1e-b

The next model up and top model in the UK is VPCF11Z1E/BI and this again says "VAIO Display Premium" The cover is Premium black as opposed to Black but again there is not mention of LED backlight.

http://www.sony.co.uk/product/vn-f-series/vpcf11z1e-bi

Notebookcheck have reviewed the VPCF11Z1E/BI and they state it has an LED backlight.

Notebookcheck: Review Sony Vaio VPC-F11Z1/E Notebook

So does anyone know if the VPCF11Z1E/BI has a different backlight to the VPCF11S1E/B? or are both or neither LED?

Thank you

Paul

 

Will calibration help mask the light bleed?

 

We think that ONE series does have a display with RGB LED. The very good Matte screen with Adobe RGB that does NOT promote LED in its advertising is dual CCFL. THAT is the "Premium Matte screen with 100% coverage." So as Derrida will tell you for hours on end, there appear to be TWO Adobe colorspace Premium screens, one with LED, one with CCFL. The CCFL Full coverage Premium screen has not heretofore had complaints about shading.

 

I don't think so.
Maybe a little because it optimizes brightness, colors, contrast & saturation.

 

Had this problem on my Z. Rebooted and it went away. Suspecting you tried this already?

 

Thank you very much MelodyMaster

 

Essential troubleshooting info missing: is this an OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) Windows 7 OS or a clean install?

Did you try updating the VAIO_Event Service? It's an essential component for On-Screen-Display (OSD) like for the volume, brightness, etc. Go to your country's esupport for your specific F model to find the download page like this one for example.

 

Sorry to bring this up again, but did you note down the generic part number on the inverter board itself.

Thanks

 

Just want to add few things here, even though we didnt see any issue, it doesnt mean the product dont have issue. One day you might have someone else use it and once they noticed the issue, you were out of luck since your warranty might expired. I encourage people to check for any defects to avoid any future "out of luck" situation.

Yes, you never asked that specific question. This is a discussion forum, we here to discuss things, so for any newbie, as Joe suggest...go to unification post first before anything, if you still have question, ask...and you might figured out something essential. I never have the FZ but the F series screen have many complaints which bring it into one conclusion...cheap, sometime defective screen being used. A fact is a fact.

 

Thanks for your reply. A restart fixed it. (It is an OEM Windows 7, everything updated as should.)

 

thats all fine and dandy. i mean, i always check for basic problems that might cause issues but some things might want to be left alone. not all of us deal with graphics and video the way some of you do. for example, a color calibrator almost seems silly (not the calibration, but paying an extra 100+ to calibrate a screen that looks fine to me) to me but it may be essential for many. for all i know, my screen might look ugly to you all but it's perfectly fine to me.

i'm just saying, no need to scare people into thinking they might have a defective screen (i'm not saying you are, if anything, this entire thread is). if you buy this laptop, then you'll probably either be doing graphical editing, watching movies, and/or playing games. during all 3 of those tasks, you WILL notice if there is a problem with the screen. if you aren't doing any of those 3, then i'm not quite sure why you bought this laptop except for it being so dam sexy (which is a fine reason by me).

just let them enjoy their new lappy for now and they'll let us know when a problem comes up.

 

Not sure if there are any benefits as I did not have time to test w/ on board speakers, headphones & external speakers but here it goes:

1- Download "Vista, Windows7 Driver(64bits) Driver only (Executable file) Realtek R2.48, 2010/5/5, 34412k" here.

2- Start > search: Create Restore Point & create one for safety.

3- > Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Programs and Features > uninstall your current Realtek High Definition Audio Driver. The R248 version is: 6.0.1.6101.

4- Restart computer when asked.

5- Install Realtek R248.

6- Restart computer when asked.

7- Test sound!

I had to mute the mic again as this setting was lost. If any software wants to use the mic like Skype for example, it turns on automatically the mic so why not leave it on mute? Check the Advanced tab & make sure "Allow applications to take exclusive control of this device" is enabled.

Adjust your other settings to taste. Please report any benefit of this update, if any.

 

If someone is considering a 5.1-channel home theater speaker system to go with their new laptop this is an interesting guide ( although this guy clearly does not like Bose ).

intellexual net · m k i v

the guy has some great links to forums etc. - click 'Bose review' and scroll below to 'further reading'.

 

That is an impressive list. I've had experience with some on the list and I basically agree. As for his view on Bose: No highs, no lows, must be Bose.

 

Feeling confused about this, even though it's well written. So there is a fairly flawless screen out there?

I agree heartily. It is damn sexy.

 

Without calibration the glossy screen, at least, is terribly blue. Calibrating it makes the image WAY better with much more accurate colorimetry.

And I agree, if you don't see a problem with the screen then it's probably fine. The bad screens are very obviously bad.. ...

 

Audioengine apparently makes great 2 channel computer speakers (the A2, I think). I've heard great things about them in terms of their sound quality/value.

 

Finally got the video drivers working the way I wanted... http://forum.notebookreview.com/sony/472664-vaio-f-nvidia-drivers-update-197-16-gt-330m-10de-0a29-12.html#post6241529

 

If you are talking about 197.44 the title in your link is wrong.

Could you clarify & justify?

 

That's the title of the forum thread introducing Midtown's driver mod.

 

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Sorry guys, this computer is driving me nuts. it keeps waking up!

i have:

1/ played around with sound mic setup... no change
2/ powercfg -devicequery wake_armed returns nothing
3/ > C:\Users\Colin>powercfg -lastwake
Wake History Count - 1
Wake History [0]
Wake Source Count - 0


Any further ideas? I'm going crazy and sony help are no help.

 

Hello, Sorry for the late reply, I've been away on business. The problem comes from either Standby, Hybrid or Hibernate. I've created reports and see nothing out of the average compared with what you have reported (I have read the forums ;-))

 

do you still have a problem ?
my friend worked on that guide and its working for him hmm

 

Hi,

I've just triple checked and yes, I've followed all of those steps and yet it's still waking up. It goes to sleep no problem - even hibernates without a hitch... or hybrid hibernate (from sleep)...

So much for the "energy star" stick on the front of it... it has prob. used more than my old vaio did in it's 4 year life (perhaps an over exaggeration... ;-))