Official Sony VAIO F Series i5/i7 owners thread *Part 5*

Navigate to your My Documents folder, right click, Location tab... and let me know what the address is, please.

 

"The easiest solution I can think of is to use two fingers to crack the laptop open a half inch, press the power button, then close. It needs to be open just a little. I wonder if this is a physical mechanism, like how a refrigerator light goes on and off, or something else? Put that sailboat to good use and fish!"

Fishon:

This is what I have been doing up to this point however I was hoping that there is a more elegant solution to the problem. I have the computer mounted on a bulkhead with some velcro straps so it takes a bunch of work to pry it open a bit just so I can make the power button work. If there is a way to either override this command or disable the switch altogether I would love to know.

Anyway thanks for the thought,
-Levin

 

C:\Users\J\Documents

 

Nevermind that request. I just got into my Documents and Settings folder and it has all of the same stuff as you. Here's what you need to do:

Navigate to C:\ > highlight Documents and Settings > right click, Properties > Security tab > under Groups or user name, make sure that Everybody is highlighted > click Advanced near the bottom > You should see FOUR security conditions listed, the first if which is DENY - everyone - read/list... > highlight that one and click Remove > OK your way out of the popups and you should have no problems anymore.

EDIT - this one DENY listing takes precedence over any other Allow permissions you may have over that folder. So, deleting it should work. It did for me.

 

Are we sure you're not JB? Good stuff- thanks.

 

No, I'm JV.

 

Yes, that worked! You are my hero!

 

If it makes it easier for you... I accept paypal. LMAO

You're welcome.

 

Haha. Well, your help was "priceless" so I will see how paypal processes that.

(I'm not allowed to rep you right now but I wish I could give you +1000)

 

The directory structure used to store user specific data has changed starting with Windows Vista. All the folders and files are under Users\ folder. To keep the compatibility with the old applications which are still using the “Document and Settings” based folders and subfolders the new operating systems use the so called junction points (NTFS file system specific symbolic LINKS to directories) to redirect those accesses (no data duplication!). So the locked folders are actual file system specific “links” to the folders under the Users\ folder. Also the “My …” folders are link to similarly named directories (without the “My” prefix and located at different level).

To see which folder is a link and to what directory is linked to, open a command prompt in that folder and run the following command:

Code:

  dir /A:L
  

Example output:

Code:

  07/14/2009  06:08    <JUNCTION>     Documents and Settings [C:\Users]
  

It is not a good idea to modify the security on those junction points (links)!
As James D recommended, try to keep those folders hidden, and start to get used to the new folder structure and navigate using that one (no “D&S”, “My…”, …).

For further info read this thread: Access denied to the “My Documents and Settings” folder .

 

Thanks for the info and link. Unfortunately, properly navigating to the folders does not solve the problem once I am in the folder as stated previously, so I am going to keep the modified security settings. Like others in that link you posted, I copied the My Documents folder from my old computer to my new one, with no warning from Windows that this would cause a problem, and then could not access my files.

This is horrible design on the part of Microsoft to say the least. Using the word "My" should not have broken permissions and file access and screwed up file structure so that when I navigate to My Documents through C:\Users\J\ once I am inside I can not then navigate and access my files because Windows chose to redirect them to the locked Documents and Setting folder.

 

What does it mean JB and JV?

 

JB are the initials for Joe Bleau, one of the most generous posters in the past and I was comparing anseio (and his initials are JV) to him.

This is such a great video to show off the full beauty of our displays. 1080, full screen and enjoy!

YouTube - The Art of FLIGHT - snowboarding film trailer w/Travis Rice

 

I didn’t copy the D&S file structure from WinXP over the Win7, so I don’t know what changes this operation can make in the junction points and Win7 file structure. In order to understand what happened when you copied the files/folders using Win7 Explorer, could you select: “Show hidden files, folders, or drives” and uncheck “Hide protected operating system files” and check if in your “My Documents” folder you have two “My Music” folders for example! And also what is the Location displayed in their properties.

 

in My Documents, I have one My Music folder and it is located C:\Users\J\Documents
there is also a My Music folder in the J folder located C:\Users\J

same for My Pictures, etc.

 

And when you are in these folders and want to go up, you encounter this access problem ? Or is it with another folder ?

 

I actually never use those folders so I will give you info for one I do. For instance, I have a downloads folder that I navigate to at C:\Users\J\My Documents\downloads

The location in Properties, however, said C:\Documents and Settings\J\Documents. So, if I try to go up to My Documents from that folder (before I made the Security permissions change) I would get denied access.

 

I see. I’m trying to find out why you end up having “c:\Documents and Settings” in the path when you navigated to “C:\Users”.
In Win7 there is no Downloads under My Documents, so I guess that folder is coming from WinXP or it was created by an application. On Win7 the Downloads folder is directly under the <User>\.

What is the Location in properties for the “My Document\Downloads” folder ? Maybe when you enter in the Downloads folder your path changes to “C:\Documents and Settings\J\My Documents\Downloads” instead “C:\Users\J\My Documents\Downloads”.

Also “C:\Documents and Settings\J\Documents” should work. Only “C:\Documents and Settings\J\My Documents” should fail.

 

That downloads folder was what I used for my downloads on my old computer. I copied my entire My Documents folder (which included the downloads subfolder) over to my new computer and have continued to use it for my downloads in order to keep all my files in the My Documents folder and make my backups easy by keeping all files in one location.

As far as the location in Properties, are you asking something different that what I wrote in my last post? Maybe I'm misreading your question because I would just give you the same answer as before: C:\Documents and Settings\J\Documents
Were you asking me to look at something else?

 

We can forget about the location, because I just checked and if you enter in the My Documents through “C:\Documents and Settings\J\Documents” or through the
“C:\Users\J\My Documents” the location of subfolders in the properties will change accordingly .

Could you open a command prompt in the “C:\Users\J\My Documents” and run the “dir” command. Is the “Downloads” showing up as a directory or Junction or something else?

 

Wouldn't work in that folder. See attached.

 

Sorry! I meant "C:\Users\J\Documents".

 

In that folder, downloads shows as a directory. "My Documents" shows as a junction in C:\Users\J\

(And I apologize to all of you who are not having this problem for getting off topic. I'm fine with the security change fix since I don't allow anyone else to use this computer and am not worried about screwing anything up myself.)

 

You are right, we are getting off topic. My apologies too!

I will do a similar update, from WinXP to Win7, with users data copy, so I hoped by helping out you, I will know what to fix then.
For further questions and help I will PM you, or I will just find out then .
Thanks jpride!

 

guys, thank you very much for trying to help!

I figured it out.
Basically its some kind of copy protection. It works fine (normal) as long as Corel Win DVD/BD player is not open. Everything pastes nicely into Photoshop new canvas. Once Corel is open, even if its lowered down and i just want to capturee desktop, it stops the Print Screen function, and the last thing you "COPY-ed" before opening the Corel, will be pasted to canvas.

interesting - learned something new.

disappointing a bit as i wanted to steal few frames from 2001 Space Odyssey film (which i adore btw) and make my own wallpapers.

won't let me.

I wander if any other software (free) that plays Blu-rays will allow print screen button to "copy"

best regards all, and thanks again!

 

You won't be able to do it from WinDVD, that's for sure. What you can do, is rip the bluray disc to .m2ts (using DVDFab or something), and open the ripped file in VLC player where you CAN make screenshots.

For taking screenshots from movies, I recommend FRAPS. You can hit the Hot Key over and over again and catch multiple frames. Easier than moving the movie back and forth.

 

Please someone help me, i try to install diffrent profile for my display, but at the end when need to tick"use windows calibration" it says element not found, why this happening, screenshot..

 

Are you using your own profile or one provided within the tread? This is how I did it.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/son...o-f-series-owners-lounge-158.html#post5784440
Try a different profile and see.

 

I'm cross posting this with the main Sony thread. I think it's important that F12 owners that don't monitor the other thread to be aware of the problem.
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I have had a Vaio F12 for a few months now and have found and verified a bug in the Alps touchpad. This bug has also been confirmed by Sony.

I prefer to use my touchpad as a simple pointing device and disable all the special features except for the scrolling functions. I've turned off all tapping functions and all multitouch gestures.

Even though all special features are turned off, the touchpad often selects menu items as I scroll though them without a mouse button click. Programs occasionally open as I scroll the start menu, selections are made when I scroll application menus, even icons are occasionally selected as I move the pointer around the screen.

I've personally verified this problem occurs on three different F12's. In addition, I went to the local Sony store and the Sony tech verified that it occurs on the in-store F12 and the other laptop with an Alps touchpad (I think it was an E Series.) He escalated the issue to his support team. This problem does not affect Synaptics touchpads.

Unfortunately Sony provides no way to track the bug, and no way for another user to register that they are also experiencing same problem without going through the entire troubleshooting process. If I didn't have a local Sony store I would have had to reload Windows, then have the touchpad replaced, and then send the machine in for evaluation to prove that this is a problem.

If you are also having this problem a call to Sony Tech Support might be in order, that is if you have a high tolerance for frustration.

 

I thought may be someone will be interested what diffrence in some benchmarking can make disabling C3/C6 in Bios, i used 3dmark06 with same clocks 700/948/1540 this clocks is very stable on my f12s1e and give good perfomance:

1. 7763 3dmarks without disabling c3/c6 and cpu score is 3241.0;
2. 7754 3dmarks with disabled c3/c6 and cpu score is 3124

It's not a big diffrence but what sony said is if you have some kind of noise on yr vaio disable c3/c6, so cpu will get less perfomance and yr battery will die faster..

Anyway without overclocked gpu 3dmark06 score is 6528, what a diffrence with 7754

 

The price of the Crucial C300 256Gb is low now.
Someone has one of this ?
The hard drives with a height of 9.5mm fill in our model ? Mine is F11.

Thanks

 

Only 9.5mm fits in laptops since 2004 I guess.

 

I used to work with 740/948/1540 before and it was stable (almost always). Yesterday I tried 740/948/1628 which gave me 700 pts in furmark 1440*900 60 seconds instead of 675 but when I went on 8-th min and came back on 13-th furmark was black however temps were not higher 64. So I ran 730/948/1606 and it was stable for 20 minutes. Temp was 63 degrees Celsium (on the cooler of course). It gave me 691 points. Standard clockings gave 555 pts

 

Any issues while playing games, over 1 hour like?

 

Is your card 330m gt right?

Here is mine furmark, i guess you was using diffrent MSAA?

 

I always use Extreme burning mode to be sure that everything is stable on clocks. However my MSAA was 0.

Just for comparing with yours I turned ExtBurn off and put MSAA to 4x. I got 1300.

PS I have not played with this OC yet. I need this only for Crysis and Metro 2033 but I don't want to spend time for these games now, maybe later
PPS Mine resolution is little bit lesser than 1400*900 because mine is not FullHD. Look at the difference in temperature and Windows. I don't suggest you to use this clock until you buy large capacity battery or notebook cooler for more air underneath. Mine cooler was turned off (fans doesn't help actually)

 

I used same figures as yours, but this time i enable c3/c6, also by doing that got exactly 50 points more on 3dmark06, i still don't undestand why sony said to disable c3/c6 to reduce noise on f12/f13 laptops, this is ridiculous.

 

Hey James where did you get servoce pack 1 from? It's not available through windows update though..

 

Also clocks looks very good, i mean stable and for the temperature anything before 75 C is ok, compare to my old fz where temperatures rising up to 75-85C without oc..

 

Download distributive of Windows 7 SP1 proceed clean install and manually type the key which is on the bottom of laptop.

Could you give us a video? I had issues with touchpad on my old presario 2700 which is without tracking pad. But I never got anything bad with Sony's no matter with drivers or without

 

It's also available as an update. A 900MB update.

 

Just wanted to say few things:

- I do not have this problem on my F13 with Alps driver 7.105.529.104. What is your driver version? I turned off the tapping function and tried in the start menu, in my browser, on my desktop, and in folders and could not select anything with the trackpad. If you already have that driver, have you tried downloading any other software to control your mouse functions? I don't have any recs off hand but you might find something that works.

- While I agree you should certainly be able to disable the tapping function and use your computer this way, UNTIL you get a fix, you can save yourself a lot of frustration by just taking 2-3 minutes to learn to use your trackpad properly. I've always had my tapping function turned on and never accidentally select anything or open unwanted apps, etc. Now you can refuse to do this out of indignation that your trackpad is not working the way is should, but the only person you are hurting by doing that is yourself. It literally only takes a couple minutes to learn to use it without accidentally selecting things you don't want to, so you can save yourself a lot of frustration if you want to....

- Does your Sony store have an F13 for you try? I think this is something that should be able to fixed with software, but if they can't provide a fix for you on your F12, they could always upgrade you to a computer without the problem.

 

No F13 at the local Sony store as of last week. The driver version's the same as yours, so maybe there are some hardware differences on the new machine, or maybe you'd have to use it for a while to see it happen. This issue does not occur with every tap, but it happens enough to be very annoying when I'm doing certain tasks. The Sony tech couldn't duplicate it at first either but after 3 minutes he was getting to happen on every single try.

This is perhaps my sixth machine with a touchpad and I have used the tapping function many times. I simply do not like it, just like I don't like liver and onions. Eating more liver and onions won't make me like them. Sometimes personal preference is simply personal preference.

The only reason I posted here is to save other people that are experiencing the same problem the time and frustration that's involved in trying to to get it resolved.

 

whats a "safe" speed to overclock my 425m?
with wath app and what config are you guys using?

ps: i dont have an external cooler only the inside fan

 

From an old post: "I've been experiencing a problem with my F12 when watching Flash videos since I took it out the box a month ago. When I play a something on Youtube, for instance, the video appears to lose horizontal sync every few seconds. It kind of looks like the video is tearing. It is much more noticeable on full screen videos but it does occur in windowed videos too."

Solution: Right clicking on the video and disabling hardware acceleration has solved the problem on my machine.

 

Great! What would you do without our help?

 

If someone is interested, I found a review on notebookcheck about the GoFlex:
Review Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex 1 TB Ultra-portable Drive


PS: Dreaming about the following external storage:
- Mini-USB Stick sized - like the Verbatim Mini-USB Stick for Netbooks ( announcement, presentation, review),
- with the right speed - like the Super Talent RAIDDrive USB 3.0 Flash Drive (370MB/s read, 190 MB/s write),
- with the ‘right’ capacity (>300 GB),
- must allow USB Daisy-Chaining - like the one designed by Gonglue Jiang, or this,
which works flawlessly with all PCs and used USB 3.0 controllers, and all this at an acceptable price lol .

 

I have a F13 with until now as only problem the enerving high-pitch intermittant fixed frequency fan-related "whine" (beep, whistle?).

I remember the problem was very well described in *Part 2* of this thread by JACKSJW who even put pics of the thermal cooling unit with the Panasonic fan. http://forum.notebookreview.com/5964733-post5535.html
His vaio's cooling unit was replaced but noise did not dissappear after that. After some tests the noise seemed to be generated directly by the fan, at different rpm's.
Since then found no more posts. Does anyone have an idea if there has been a final solution for this problem ?

 

Look in the signature of the person who posted right before you.

 

aha ryt, some reading to do first then.