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    Official Sony VAIO TT Series Owners Thread

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony Owners' Lounge Forum' started by boe, Oct 1, 2008.

  1. coldmack

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    Clearance club has the for sale but most of them are sony certified refurbished.
     
  2. Rachel

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    I doubt that Sony is going to hang onto this model in Europe and Asia but you never know. Once people find out that something is discontinued somewhere then some people hold of from buying.
    If they do they need to make some changes.
    Sony won't do this though.

    The TT was a bit heavy for what it was when compared against the Z. 2.7lbs would have been a more acceptable weight. The smaller form factor though does make a bit of a difference when travelling.

    In terms of design i prefered the TT over the TZ.

    Compared to the R600 the Sony is priced about the same but you can get some cheaper Toshiba models as well.

    The CULV cheaper notebooks and netbooks made the TT look massively overpriced and some people could no longer justify the purchase.
     
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    Im complentating and leaning towards getting a Sony Vaio TT36GD which is still widely available in Hong Kong, China. This model is just released last month. - SU9600, 4GB RAM, 250gig HDD - 1.3kgs at around $1400USD

    I have been using my Vaio SZ18GP for about 4 years now, it has seen a few service centers visit already (new battery, and new fan replaced). Otherwise it has been really reliable to me.

    Question is should I go for the Z46GD instead? P9800 + 6GB ram + 320 gig HDD at 1.5kgs for $500 US more??
     
  4. coldmack

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    Do you need the extra screen space, more power and better gpu the Z offers... If so then the Z maybe a better choice.
     
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    I agree with you that possibly the TT could have been even lighter possibly by removing the optical drive. But that would make it look even more like a netbook.

    As to performance i think its a case of how it's presented. It's quite fast running productivity apps, the only area it's weak in is 3d games but really do you want to play call of duty on this anyway?

    There are other aspects to performance (like battery life) when you are talking about this class of machine.

    It is a marketing failure on Sony's part that this was not more clearly differentiated from a netbook.

    Since this thread is full of analogies i'll use a car one.

    The TT was to a Lexus like the EEE PC is a Hyundai Accent. Both have their markets but they are only superficially the same
     
  6. denony

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    Hello,

    Sometimes, My Vaio TT11LN (Vista 32 bits SP1) does not shutdown properly. Windows is seems to be off (the LCD screen is turned off, the HDD is stopped) but the green power LED still lights and the fan is running (if it was running when Vista was on).

    I have to press the power button for 10 seconds to power off the Vaio

    I reinstalled Vista many times, but the problem is still here.

    Do you have this problem on your Vaio ? Have you solved it ?

    Thank you
     
  7. epbrown

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    I'm sorry the TT is done, but just because it looks like there won't be a replacement. The TT itself never motivated me to upgrade from my TZ. Now that there seems to be nothing better on the horizon, I'm going to try removing my DVD drive and adding a second hard drive.
     
  8. Skyshade

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    You know, I just saw a Lenovo x200s (SU9400+2GB+160GBHDD) on sale for $995 on my EPP site. CULV and netbook aside. If Sony (or Toshiba) does not do this kind of house clearing, it is not even competitive against x200s series -- I mean, who wants to buy an optical drive for $900-1000 dollar?

    I have seen this kind of clearance discount on Lenovo X series on my EPP site for a while now, perhaps a sign of things to come...
     
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    I have the picture about your issues. But I haven't the exactly part number. My friend still help me to seek it and ask US Sony. US sony has this parts
     
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    I just bought it two weeks ago from HK, and I am loving it. And you get the option of using the lappy with XP, Vista and Windows 7.

    The only thing that I was surprised is the lack of the HDMI output on these newer models.
     
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    I placed the order yesterday SONY VAIO TT36GD *WHITE* on the SONY STYLE page. I ordered via Sony cuz they were offering 2 extra years of warranty and a Walkman W202 mp3 player for free!!
     
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    Are you sure about the HDMI port removal? That is very surprising to hear. If you didn't know, the HDMI port is hidden behind a flap, maybe you did not notice it?
     
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    I'm pretty sure that the TT36GD doesn't come with the HDMI ports.. Nor any options for upgrade.. as I would not have mind paying extra for an SSD drive... built to config, but oh well, I guess I can do that later on!
     
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    Come on, I have not that many posts here I know but I know where to look :)

    This is my 6th Vaio now, and I just upgraded from the SZ4xx, and I am quite happy with it. It is light and portable, for instance I am at the beach with a my new TT with a 3G connection. What else can I want :)
     
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    SSD is the easy part, but HDMI is kind of sad. If there would be an express pci card with HDMI out, I'd be the first one to buy it.
     
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    Buying a TT next few days although it has being discountinued by SONY >
    My ? .
    -How many hours of juice can I get out of it : 1.full throttle
    2.moderate usage
    3.very light usage
     
  19. itworker

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    With my TT180 I typically get around 5 hours or so running under the VAIO optimized power setting. Brightness is typically set at two or three notches.

    Wi-Fi and Bluetooth on. I would characterize my use as "moderate."
     
  20. coldmack

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    if you turn the power of the dvd drive off, and near low brightness, with lower power task and usage I think you can get or at least close to 7 hours.
     
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    someone know what is the webcam driver ?
    now it's turn on ( green light) but the image is black ...
    thanks
     
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    I get about 6 hours typical out of my 130. Wifi on, Web. office, movies, itunes usage.

    It drops to 4 when I use the built in sprint WLAN card
     
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    Hi guys,

    I have the vaio VGN-TT25GN and want to builtin the wwan option.
    Any chance that somebody knows what part number the mini pci-e daughter board is so i can order the part?
     
  24. coldmack

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    So I was having a discussion in another site about carbon fiber vs aluminum and the user says carbon fiber is garbage vs aluminum.
    Is this really true or does this person wrong?
     
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    I dunno, but either way, the TT doesn't ever feel hot to me..
     
  26. Miyabi

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    its true on carbon fibre is not a good material that dissipate heat thru, it still have the warm feeling, but not as hot as aluminium surface. the good side of carbon fibre structure is lap friendly aside lightweight and *strong.

    TT processor not generate much heat if you worry about. but if gaming on nvidia on VAIO Z, thats the thing you need to worry about :)

    ps: the heat doesnt spread all over the place, its usually on the processor part only, so it wont cooked the whole component in the notebook.
    *doesnt get melt, structure change due to excessive heat.
     
  27. Rachel

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    ^
    Saying that though Macs do tend to run at higher temps than similar speced pc's when using monitoring tools. So it doesn't really suggest that PC notebooks components will fry where Macs won't. That person was exaggerating.
     
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    good to know thank you.
     
  29. Jurisprudence

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    Sorry Rachel but I think your being too nice in that comment. My MBP's, both Santa Rosa 2007 models, could fry eggs for your breakfast. I live in Ireland, its not a hot country. There ability to dissipate heat through their aluminium chassis's may be impressive but if you have ever placed one of these things down on bare legs after it has been running full throttle for a while you should be prepared to call two people, a doctor and a lawyer. My HP 2133 based on a VIA 1.2ghz on a magnesium alloy chassis shows how poor internal component choice can negate any benefit from chassis material selection. Its a firebomb.

    Carbon fibre may not be the equal to aluminium in heat transfer but good ventilation (such as Sony's) is preferable for a couple of reasons. Using an aluminium laptop (which is a glorified heatsink) and calling it a better dissipater assumes that the material it is dissipating the heat too is also a good conductor. If its air all well and good, if its on your bed linen (usually designed to maintain heat) that heat from the underside cannot be conducted into the poorly conductive material = the MBP continues to heat up. Secondly, on laptops which rely on good vent systems (the MBP has extremely poor ventilation by design) the heat can be channeled away from heat sensitive points. On a TT the chassis is really only a heat overflow. An MBP soaks the whole chassis potentially leading to point breaks especially if a joint is dry. Thermally more vulnerable components become exposed to increased heat. MBP fans often run hard and fast to combat this and Apple have released firmware upgrades to compensate (hi Nvidia). BTW if any fanboy wants to say that heat is dissipated from the upper chassis on an MBP please remember the aluminium surface area on the upper chassis is appreciably less as the keyboard is plastic as is the trackpad (glass on unibody), as with the TT.

    Good engineering is always the most important aspect in laptop design. The TT is one of the better ones. Using carbon fibre + good ventilation + component selection = good design. Apples design strategy has shown quite clearly on the MBA 1st gen that aluminium in the absence of good clean aspiration is a disaster waiting to happen. Thermal shutdown time.

    That person making those comments should see a doctor. No human is meant to talk out of that end of their body. Nice party trick though. He should check with the courts and consumer agencies regards Apple's heat induced litigation. Its becoming a serious weakness in their legal armour (aluminium I'm sure). Sony appear to have less legal issues on similar matters.

    P.S: Carbon fibre as a light weight material with good conductivity is widely used in motorbike exhaust systems (and other parts) up to and including Superbike class. If somebody is going to tell you that Ducati, Yamaha, Honda and almost every world Superbike champion etc have been making mistakes in their construction for 20 years I'll show you an idiot who should have their vocal cords cut. Don't mind the pointless fanboy Coldmack.
     
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    Hi, guys

    I have the TZ and was wondering what are the differences between the TZ and TT. I am thinking of an upgrade to the TT so wanted to see if it is worth. I wanted to know for example in terms of processing power what was the highest processor they put in the TZ and how that compated to the TT.

    Also, are there any problems with the TT...?
     
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    I think the main problem is with touchpad > very erratic >


    There is a specific thread about it >
     
  33. coldmack

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    Yeah it can be pretty erratic but the Toshiba drivers fix the problems I was having. Also, TT supports blu-ray and HD video due to its better, yet nothing to write home about, 4500HD video card.
     
  34. Rachel

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    So Sony added different config options for several me to you stores in the EU. Sony Italy, Spain, France and Germany seem to have got updated specs/models and pricing.
    You can get one with a celeron processor and 1.6 processor and the pricing is now very decent. Sony should have offered may be another SU2XXX processor that does support speedstep.
    Sony in Japan i think offer more of an array of such type processors.

    However, i see that the UK config to you stores people are being charged an arm and an leg compared to other stores in the EU. I hope this changes.

    I'm glad that the TT is not dead in several countries in the EU.
     
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    So all that news about the TT being discontinued is only for the US market?
     
  36. coldmack

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    So I installed the new bios that enables VT off the EU(UK to be exact) Sony site(listed in another thread here) and everything is working fine. However, did I notice that after typing in my log in info, windows 7(rtm) seems to have gotten maybe 5-8seconds slower to load, which is now closer to how it was on Windows Vista, is this normal?
     
  37. Rachel

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    Sony finally updated the UK website and now the TT's are being sold at the reduced pricing and with the celeron/1.6 processor option just like they are doing in some other countries in the EU. I probably will order one with a 1.6
    processor. I would have loved if they would have allowed us to have white as a colour option. I hope that Sony add this in the future. If white was an option i would probably have placed an order today.
    https://www.sonystyle.co.uk/SonySty...00002BC29B8F/48FC10930BB800A7E10080002BC29B85

    They now start at £939. You can still pick up the TT1 models with a 1.2 SU9300 processor for about £800.
     
  38. coldmack

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    I agree with the white color and would have gotten one in white if I didn't get such a good deal on mines.
     
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    Let me join in: I also really would like to have a TT in Europe with a white color option. Hope Sony is sensitive to our signals... - and there are many more potential customers out there who would like the white. I have talked with several of them.
     
  40. heavenly_wild

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    I am looking at possibly getting a TT.

    Can you guys advise the difference in terms of power between SL and SU processors? I am suspecting SU processors are more powerful? I realise the TT only comes with SU processors but there are quite a few machines with SL CPUs and I would like to know which one is the better performer.
     
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    I'm wondering if the cheaper TT with the Celeron chip, if the motherboard would support SU chip, i might might a cheap tt and replace it with a 1.6ghz SU if the motherboard would be the same, anyone help?

    az
     
  42. Rachel

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    The processor is soldered. Getting hold of these type of processors is not that easy also. A BGA would cost you about £200-£250. That is what i was quoted when i asked someone to do this job for me a few weeks back on another laptop.

    Btw, about the lid colour. I suggested to Sony that they add the white lid option. May be others should do the same if they want this.

    SL processors run to higher ghz, have double the amount of cache and have faster FSB 800/1066mhz. ULV SU processors top out at 1.6 but SL like we see that is used in the MBA go all the way to 2.13. A 1.6 is enough for everyday needs for most people i think. SU processors have a 10w TDP compared to 17w TDP that SL have.
    http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/mobile/specifications.htm
     
  43. heavenly_wild

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    Thanks Rachel for your input!

    It is a surprise to me that the SL processors overall are better performers than SU processors.

    So is the SL processor newer than the SU?

    I don't know why Intel has to come out with so many different types of processors! Haha :D
     
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    Opps I forgot, how about the SP processors in terms of performance against the SU and SL?
     
  45. Rachel

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    SP processors start at 2.26ghz and run to higher voltages and also consume more power. SP processors some are embedded also. They are also smaller than P processors and are used in some thin and lights.
     
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    What is the wattage on the SP?
     
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    Hey Coldmack,

    where did you get the Toshiba drivers for the touchpad?

    thanks!
     
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    So I went to esupport to check for Winows 7 drivers/updates for the TT. They have exactly ONE update -- for Sony Picture Browser. Meanwhile there's like 30 updates for the Z series.

    I really don't want to install Windows 7 only to find out that a bunch of features no longer work. I hope they rectify the situation soon, this is really unacceptable for a laptop that was on the market until very recently. Grrrr....
     
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    Hey guys I really need your help quick as I need to make a decision. I am thinking and have the opportunity to purchase a VGN-TT280B/N for about 2k completely brand new, which I think is pretty good. It's the one that seems to be fully loaded, it has 1.6 GHz processor, 4 GB of Ram, Blueray etc. but it has a 250 GB HDD rather than the 256 dual SSD's that dyanmism offers (but theirs is 4k+), now a few questions:

    1. Since it's been discontinued does anyone really think that Sony will release something in this series again? Personally the new "X series" won't work for me as I need an optical drive, so what are the chances of an upgrade being released even say a year down the road?
    2. What is the deal with windows 7, will I be able to upgrade to it on this machine?
    3. Is worth spending the extra 2k on an SSD version of the notebook. Is the difference that profound? How do those with HDD TT's machines run?
    4. Any issues or known quality problems with this line?

    Thank so much, as you can see I'm not so much up to date on this stuff so any help and input would be sincerely appreciated. I hope I put this in the right place haha. Thanks :)
     
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    I have installed windows 7 64bit and everything is working except for the gps from my option gtm382 card. naybody a idea how to enable the gps?
    The gps devices are listed in deviice manager but i can't find any sattelites
     
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