To those who have the 15A and can't hear the fan, have you tried out Skype and is it still quiet? I can't run a video call and run Firefox at the same time without the fan becoming loud and audible over the mic to the person on the other end.
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Seems that the fan on my 14A has quieted down a lot since the updates, too. It's great !
About the Recovery media : gee, you haven't been lucky at all. I bought a cheapo Lexar 32G USB stick (USB 2.0) and it took the image right away. Tested it after with the "Assist" button and it booted to Recovery.
I also had zero problems writing Recov disks with the little LG external drive (USB 2.0). Note : these units come with a "Y" USB cable because they are specified to work when plugged into 2 USB ports at the same time, for adequate power. I had read comments on the LG unit where people were running it from one USB 3.0 port which seems to deliver enough power. It works for me with only one port. VAIO Recovery allowed to write to DVD-Rs right away (3 disks instead of 5 because of "Fresh Start").
So yeah, hopefully the Kingston drive is suitable for bootable images. And as you pointed out, I made sure to get a USB 2.0 optical drive and stick because of the boot issues with USB 3.0
I've got my Crucial M500 480GB drive waiting. This Flip is a X-Mas gift so I can't work on it when there are certain people around. Should get it done in the next 2 or 3 days... I also want to make sure the touchscreen issues I've been having get sorted so I don't have to return this unit meaning I'd have to pull the SSD out...
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Happy to hear that you don't have any issues with the fan noise on battery.
So do you think if I customize the adjustments on battery for like 50% Cpu usage at max. and I have a pdf file and browser with few tabs open I get no irritating fan noise? I don't care If the fan noise goes high when I use Photoshop or heavy tasks but I don't want it to be load at all when I am giving presentations or I am in the class. By the way have you tried to make notes on pdf files with it?
And how do you find the battery life, is it possible to get 6 hours on power saver mode reading pdf files with medium brightness and occasional web browsing?
I have to choose between lenevo Yoga 2 and sony Flip 13. And the active stylus and the nice aluminium finish of sony is convincing me to get the sony, however the lenovo Yoga 2 is available with Core i7 and 256Gb with 1299$ and with somehow the same price sony offers Core i5 and 128Gb plus the fan issues. And that's making the decision hard! Anyway it seems you are happy with your decision.
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So now my unit left Tennessee last night and appears to be in Grand Forks, ND.
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Has anyone had any issues plugging the computer into a TV via HDMI? I tried plugging it into my Sony HD TV and could not get a picture or audio to come up. I use the same HDMI cable w/ my PS3 & my old HP laptop with no issues.
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Hi there fourfins
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I do have the 2 gb nvidia. I did not go into the graphic card properties when trying.
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Gosh, worked like a charm here. Hooked up the HDMI cable to my Panasonic plasma and had my Desktop showing in less than 5 seconds. Both screens active. Sound works.
I suspected you had the nVidia graphics, because my little HP laptop has onboard graphics and HDMI to TV is automatic just like my Flip. My sister has an HP with dedicated Radeon graphics and she needs to select the HDMI output in her graphics properties somewhere. Look around, I'm sure you'll stumble onto it eventually. Right-click on the Desktop and look at display options there or, better yet, launch the nVidia control panel and you should find the option there.
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I would like to ask for your support. I have a laptop Sony Vaio MultiFlip 15 with SSD, win. 8.1. My problem is with bluescreen - once, twice a day with info: DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL - SynTP.sys What can I do to eliminate this error. Probably problem is with drivers for touchpad. I have latest from sony website. Any suggestions? -
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I got my Flip 15 customized with I7, 256 SSd, 8Gb ram, nvidia 735M last week as model SVF15N1CE
I installed ALL updates before and after installation of WIn 8.1. Now the Realtek LAN card will NOT connect at 1 Gbps, only at 100 Mbps. My network is fully compatible with 1 Gbps. All laptops and destops connect with the same LAN cable which i connect to the Vaio Flip do connect at 1 Gbps. not so the Vaio Flip only at 100Mbps.. I tried with a series of Realtek drivers, no change. I ,do confirm my network is fully 1 Gbps compatible, router, cabels cat6 etc.. This defect occurs with WIn 8 and WIn 8.1. Has anybody has the same defect with the Realtek LAN card?
In addition to this problem, and having read privious posts on the virtual keyboard in Tablet mode, habe in win 8.1 in Tablet mode no virtual keyboard popup. New bios 230D insatalled. This makes Tablet mode fully unusable.
SO I call this Flip a terrible FLOP.The more that the USB, HDMI, Led control lamps are fully hidden about a centimeter under the edge of the keyboard. Trying to connect any device is pure gueswork unless you dive under the laptop to see what your aiming at.
After all these dissapointments , I ,tried to return the laptop to the Sony Online store , but even then big problems arise, retour refused, altough I got an email where it was accepted. It seems that the Sony administration is a complete circus.
After all these mishaps I beginning to hate Sony, although I have bought their stuff for over 35 years. I think that this story makes an end to this.
Has anybody the same LAN an persistent virtual keyboard problems?
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Dear Flip owners
I would like to conduct a little poll [link] to find out whether doing a FR and starting the whole installation process over would help me get rid of a few bugs. I'm having issues with screen brightness (I have no way of changing it), and resolution in desktop "apps", and a few others.
I would be very grateful if you guys could let me know what you did before upgrading and whether you're having similar issues or not. Touch control taking its time to awaken is a tricky one, for me it takes 1-2 seconds, for others a full reboot, so I don't know if it fits this category. But if you don't think any of the answers offered fit your case, please let me know by choosing 'Other' and leaving me a message there. I greatly appreciate your help, I'd rather do an FR instead of a clean install (still seems like a lot of work to me), if this gets me the same results.
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Hello fl0werstar
I'll spend a little more time on the Flip before I answer on that survey, because I'm still not 100% sure about everything. For instance, last night I no longer had touchscreen issues, which I hope are gone for good (fingers crossed). And then out of the blue, Wi-Fi started acting up (slowing down) and I was 10ft (3m) from the router. Don't know what's the deal there yet.
Concerning brightness : I don't have the Flip out right now to check, but... have you noticed the brightness being "more" during the day and "less" at night ? Mine does that so I guess it has an Auto-brightness feature in VAIO options. I've found posts on forums about other Sony laptops having this feature and some don't like it at all. It can be disabled apparently. I'll look into this at some point but not for a few days. You can even see the difference at night when the Flip boots up adn the brightness is high for a short period, and then dims down all by itself. The brightness level from regular controls show 100% even when it's darker from this feature, so there is no way of increasing it by regular means.fl0werstar likes this. -
While some of my issues are really tiny compared to what others have experienced, it continues to baffle my mind as to why such an expensive device can have so many issues.
The fan noise is a hardware issue and I blame Sony for that, but everything else like drivers, touchpad/external mouse issues, Windows error messages etc are both a Sony and a Microsoft problem. Its like it was rushed out the door with no quality control testing done at all.
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Click battery icon in lower right corner, hit "more power options". Under the plan you use, hit "change plan settings". Then hit "change advanced power settings."
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Hi all,
I dont think this has been covered , so i hope it will help others :
I have the flip 15A 2880x1620 ,
I tried for few days to configure an external screen of 2560x1440 with HDMI cable (hi-speed) but the max resolution was stuck at 1920x1080.
here is a quick solution :
To be able to customize resolution with the intel 4400 we need to open an app located in :
c:/windows/system32/CustomModeApp.exe
You can see more info here : Graphics — Custom Resolutions & Modes
This will ask you if you're aware of the risk etc... accept and proceed with your settings !
I used :
2560x1440 with 60hz using CVT-RB option.
Reboot > now you can select the custom resolution for external screen !
The initial idea come from notebookcheck :
2560x1440 or 2560x1600 via HDMI - NotebookCheck.net Tech
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Thanks to fourfins and thirteen13 for the tips ; I'm sure they will help people out. I'm certainly going to play with *adaptive brightness* later.
@fl0werstar : could you elaborate on that brightness issue you are experiencing ? You said you couldn't adjust it at all... What do you see that seems *broken* and/or what happens when you try to raise or lower the brightness ?
Your issue is definitely separate from the adaptive/auto brightness situation. Let's see if we can figure it out together...
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swipe right to left so the bar appears then click on settings
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It's the 15A Version.
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Otherwise it will not work when u switch between plans...
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I think the problems could come from the HDMI cable being used... Need to be Hi-speed if you want to control hi-DPI.
The ndivia control panel even using the original full driver directly from ndivia website ( I installed the latest beta) is not giving access to screen displays...
Like Mark suggested, u can access it with right click on desktop then choose display ( resolution ) don't remember the options name.
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For those like me who have hard time to search where are the parameters in win8 u can use godmode ;-) its an hidden menu to allow access to all the parameters on the computer. Pretty helpful when not finding something : http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/unlock-godmode-windows/
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For the the resolution in desktop app, if you have the 2880x1620 screen res ,this will be due to windows 8.1 handling badly hiDPI screen. Some apps like skype will have blurred text.etc... U can't do much about it....till Microsoft or app makers offers a better support. Basically this is due to uiScaling.
There are few options :
Right click the app ( I.e skype ) go to properties then 2nd tab I think then bottom and unselected the options telling you to use scaling....
This will display app in normal mode but having a huge resolution like 2880x1620 will make the text very tiny...
What u can do is also use a smaller res like 1980x1600 displayed at 100% ...
But then you loose all the benefits of having a hiDPI screen
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Has anyone upgraded the SSD in their Flip 13? How difficult is the upgrade ? Is it a mSATA or regular ?
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I have the 14A which have regular SATA III drives. So does the 15A. The 13A has neither regular SATA nor mSATA ; it's a newer scheme that uses PCIe and I believe they are called " M.2 PCIe" drives and were formerly known as "NGFF" (Next Generation Form Factor).
Another member posted about this here about a week ago.
You can't buy them retail yet, from what I know, but they should hit the streets soon.
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With all these problems, I'm a little nervous.
If I get my unit which is stuck somewhere now with no delivery date, I'm almost hesitant about what to expect when it does arrive.
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Today I'm finally going to order my flip but I'm terribly Undecided about the color
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I have a question for twospirits, if you're out there :
First off, thanks for your teardown pictures in the other thread for your 13A. Although I have a 14A, some things are similar. I have looked at the teardown video on YT (a 14A).
My question has to do with the rubber feet underneath. In the teardown video, they show us removal of the long rubber strip (front) but nothing on the two rubber feet at the back ; we know he took them off because they aren't there anymore when he lays the plastic cover down. Now I'm sure he took them off because they've put up a "reverse teardown" video, in high speed, and we clearly see the guy sticking the two feet back on the cover.
I noticed in your pictures that there appears to be signs of struggle around one of the two feet, meaning some scratches on the black plastic cover, from your flat screwdriver I'm guessing.
I'll be opening the 14A up in a day or two and just wanted to ask you how difficult (or easy) getting those two feet off and then on again really is. I'm not worried about the long strip, just the two feet. Do I need glue ? If so, what type of glue (weatherstrip type ?)
Thanks...
Mark
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I'm always out there, I am like mold, I never go away. lol
Taking out those rubber feet is not hard at all. The bottom of the laptop is plastic and anything will make a smudge and it can be scratch if using something sharp. but what looks like scratches is made by my fingernail not the screwdriver. And yes those two rubber feet in the back have to come out to you can see them out and the screws in there in the photo..
As long as you are careful and slow you won't leave any scratches and most if not all of the glue will come up with the rubber feet. This way it can be reused again when you put them back.
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Now, also if I close everything and I sit in a very quiet environment I hear the fan constatntly running, which is quite annoying, even the CPU load is constantly on 3-4% @ 0.77GHz. Its annoying not because of the noise, just because it is running for *nothing* and I personally think that is a sign of bad technical design (either drivers/bios/...). Probably the developer was just overly tired and under heavy pressure to bring out a release of the notebook. To be honest, I was doing stuff with soooo many companies, big/small/middlesize, its always the same when it comes to the release-day. 80% is working, the rest is fixed later
I think both notebooks are good. I was in the same situation, had to decide between the Yoga2 and the Sony. I took the Sony because i found the flip design more appealing and I like running the native resolution on 72dpi. With 1920x1080 its okay, everything looks neat and nice. I guess with the huge resolution on the Yoga2 I would get eyecancer and *maybe* there would be some problems with older apps on the huge resolution (I love Roller Coaster Tycoon ^^)
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back to my keyboard problem
on the side where I try to press the return-key it simply happens nothing. Doesn't matter how hard I try to press it, because a screw is standing a little bit too far outside from the other side, pressing against the key...
Anyone else have the same problem?
Anyone opened it and knows if the screw on the other side can be reached to "unscrew" it a little bit?!
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Thank you all for your help. Well, the issue is the following.
I have disabled auto brightness everywhere, and the screen is not reacting to lighting changes around me. So far so good. However, it's not letting me control brightness either. It doesn't matter if I use the keyboard or the charms control bar, nothing happens. I have the power modes (Power Saver, Balanced and Performance in my case) all set differently (auto brightness always OFF), but I never switch, always use Balanced. I tried switching just to see if the brightness changes and it doesn't. What's weird is that if I bring that g-forsaken auto adjustment back, it can change the brightness level, only I can't. Aaaaaargh.
The only thing I can think of is that as the power options all have set screen brightness values, it simply won't let me control it manually, Which is plain stupid.
On the resolution issue: I have a 13A with a 1920 display. So it should cause Win8.1 no difficulty. And yet. Whatever I set as default (I've played around with the overall dpi, with text and icons being smaller/bigger/crisper/etc, and all the rest of the settings) some of the desktop apps come out with ugly blurry text, Chrome being the worst. And I think this started with 8.1... The metro apps are fine, but once a metro settings window prompts me to open a desktop one for more advanced settings (think going from Vaio Control Center to a Control Panel menu), bang, it's dead ugly, fuzzy and blurry. The worst thing is that completely random things would look great, only to revert back to rubbish.
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I know I can set the brightness from the keyboard or the power settings>edit plan, in the control panel, there's a slider for brightness on battery or plugged in which also works for me but didn't when I was on automatic brightness.
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I don't think you'll find many people who have opened a 13A, because upgrading the SSD and RAM is not an easy task on those units (that type of SSD is not sold retail yet and the RAM stick is soldered).
I have a French-Canada keyboard on my 14A so my ENTER key is similar to yours ; US keyboards have the small ENTER key. Mine is fine, but the 14A has a different chassis than the 13A... Sounds to me like you have a manufacturing defect that requires repair (or a new machine depending on Sony). Sorry about that...
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@fl0werstar :
That is so weird. It does sound like software, not hardware. Wish I knew what it was...
I think your first hunch was correct : now that you've tried every setting under all conditions, your next move should probably be a Recovery install. If that doesn't cure it then, well, you know what the next move needs to be because it is an unacceptable problem for sure.
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@twospirits :
Thanks for being here, and available to answer questions. It means a lot
I'm relieved about those two rubber feet being easy to remove, and also glad you didn't have to struggle to get them off from your 13A.
I found a thread elsewhere where a guy opened a 15A and described how he took those feet off : he simply grabbed the sides and used his thumbs to push against the feet to *release* them. He was also able to stick them back on the cover afterwards because most/all of the tape remained on the feet.twospirits likes this. -
I have replaced the HDD with the Samsung 840 SSD 500GB drive using the same tear-down youtube video referenced before. There is one important piece of advice: to take the bottom lid off you have to remove both of the small rubber legs on the bottom - they are hiding two screws, without which you cannot take the lid off. This was not emphasized in the video, you do see that they have done it, as you can see those legs lying on the table in the video. The video is very brief. Overall, the process is fairly easy (especially if you have previous experience replacing drives or upgrading RAM with other laptops).
Then I have booted from the DVD's and did recovery from the drives. Everything worked well - it did take several hours. I couldn't wait too long and started it at 11pm, after my wife and son went to bed. I finished everything at 5am, while reading Ender's game on my hp touchpad tablet. This was quite a lot of fun actually, reminded me old college days.
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Good to hear from you, IQ2014
Now I'm a little mad because you've beat me to the first Recovery install on SSD in this thread...
Nah, I'm just kidding, and very happy you sorted out the bootable USB thing (the BIOS update : of course, I should have thought of that...). Anyway, you've just confirmed that the VAIO Recovery works as intended by allowing installation on a new hard drive (including SSDs). I wasn't sure at first whether I'd do a Recovery install or clone the disk, but now I'm sure I'm doing Recovery even if it's a longer process (the updates).
About the rubber feet : I've been discussing them with twospirits ; it started yesterday as a matter of fact (see post #838 and then the reply). Yeah, I was worried about those feet myself. Not anymore
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@Gkhn: And the BIOS update didn't change this either.
BTW, I'm sending the unit back, as the screen seems to be defective. Light patches have started appearing where the keyboard (?) presses the screen when fully closed. This should not happen and since nobody mentioned this I guess it's only my machine. I still have a couple of days to send it back within the 30 days period. But I don't know whether I want to do that or simply send it for repair... Well, this sort of overrides my driver issues.Which I'm very grateful for your help with!
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Hi there all,
I've been following this and related forums for quite a while because I was very much impressed by the design and specs of the flip15. After a long waiting period I finally received the machine last week.
First I was (literally) blown away by the fan and the incredible loud and high pitched whistling noise coming from it. However the BIOS update did wonders. At high CPU load the sound is still close to unbearable, but under normal usage its mostly silent and I think I can live with that. Apart from this issue, I encountered many other bugs, tough most of them are due to poor handling of the high DPI settings in Windows 8.1 and the software I'm using. One other major bug, and I'm surprised it isn't mentioned before, is this:
When I close the lid in tablet mode, the bottom row of keyboard keys get pressed just a tiny bit. This shouldn't be a problem, the laptop notices it is in tablet mode and will automatically disable the keyboard. However, when i close the lid a bit to fast, the disabling of the keyboard is too late. This means the spacebar is pressed (selecting something on the screen) and worse, often an Alt, Win, or Ctrl, button gets pressed and when the laptop then disables the keyboard, these keys stay active! This means it is impossible to type on the on screen keyboard.
It took me quite a while to figure out what was causing this 'bug' but I'm now pretty sure that this is what happens, closing the lid very gently doesn't pose any problems... And when in 'bug mode', lifting up the lid only a tiny bit, the problem still persists.
I'm just wondering If anyone else can reproduce this same issue. I think because of the dimensions this problem will be most evident on the flip 15. But maybe my laptop just has a faulty lid closing sensor or something, then I will have to send it back for repair.
Official Sony Vaio Fit multi-flip PC Owners' Thread
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