New Sony VAIO X Series Announced

If you really want to compare PCMark scores, which I do not recommend, the OSes should be the same.

PCMark was released in 2005 and is actually quite outdated and irrelevant.

 

The Vaio P was tested with a 1.86ghz processor and an SSD drive and scored 1,476 using Vista basic or XP i cannot make it out. I think it was Vista basic. These X series have been running i think W7. Of course the benchmarks are not the be all and end all. Also, it just seemed to me that those scores posted before did not seem quite right.

http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...co.jp/docs/2009/0108/hotrev395.htm&hl=en&sa=G

Anyway, some pictures have been posted here of the X.


http://kunkoku.livedoor.biz/

 

What is that Fan doing there, inside the X??

 

Wow...my 2 year old TZ annihilates this as of yet unreleased X. That's a disappointment. If only they could fit an ULV chip in there somehow...it amazes me because they did it in the G and that's a pretty tight notebook.

 

Suddenly, the Adamo I just bought is looking like a mighty wise decision!

lol

 

The X series has now been posted on the Sony UK website. There will be two models VPCX11S1E/B and VPCX11Z1E/X.
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/vn-x-series/vpcx11s1e-b

http://www.sony.co.uk/product/vn-x-series/vpcx11z1e-x

I think it would be interesting to see how this looks with the 2 extended batteries. I would tend to think that the smaller battery may not look quite as bad as the largest one.

Edited to add:
It looks like there are no gold models in the EU either, just premium carbon fibre and black carbon. They also come with a multi-touch touchpad and i know that a lot of people seem to like them here.

 

So in EU, models will start with 128SSD and have 256GB max, while in US models starts with 64 and ends with 128, no wonder top model will be 3000$ here, 256GB SSD is like 500€ (800$)

 

Oh..and yes...there will be no S battery in EU, only the large one, with 8h of battery life and extra one with 14.

quite a difference then and no wonder price is so high here

dunno why they did this thou, maybe because model with 64 SSD, standard battery would be too cheap?!

 

I'm still very keen on the X, but as we only have two models in the UK, it seems that the VPCX11Z1E/X is the one to go for. Still, £1700-£1800 for an Atom based machine??? Hmmm. The same amount of money could get me a nice Z replacement as and when Sony get around to updating the Z line next year or it could pay for one hell of a desktop PC :-\

Guess I'll wait for a few reviews before deciding whether or not to take the plunge...

 

Yes, but with Z you get the 1.5 kg machine and with X you get 0.8, quite a difference if that is a factor for you, if you need only "performance", then Z is clear choice, of course.

Maybe wait for TT, if 1.2kg is enough and still want solid performance.

 

Wait for the TT?

As far as I am aware, the obserations by fellow memebers indicate the TT is being phased out.

 

The TT was written of in the EU as EOL as a few months back by forum members and those in the media. It was strange though that Sony never actually removed the TT from all the websites in the EU. I know Phil mentioned before that the TT had been removed from the NL website. Some models are end of life but Sony have refreshed this line in some countries. Sony in Germany are selling new TT models. Check the what is coming new from Sony thread that is on the 1st page.

 

I saw - I suspect consumer depmand/economic climate/previous sales rate would contriubute to their decisions.

 

Well...rachel just said there are new models, probably they will put a new one outside and just pump them out a bit and put windows7, it would be silly not to do this, for at least one session...

 

At least in Germany and France there is, however i have no idea yet about the rest of the EU.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5387558&postcount=46

 

Yes, there is always TT in France, but only CTO models and the delay is about 3-4 weeks

 

The price point has been dropped, it is now coming with W7 upgrade and an option for a 1.6 processor. A celeron processor has also been added. This is different. Yes, CTO was available before but not with what is being offered now. Sony UK are still offering the old spec in the UK.

I had a look at the Sony website in Germany and some other EU countries and can only see one X model being offered but in the UK there is two. They have posted a showcase as well which is interesting to watch.
http://content.vaio.eu/showcase/x/index_gb.html

 

Just rumors or not? Some things make sense, Sony told few months ago that we will see a new model with touchscreen when W7 is going to be released. Now, is going to be the X or a new CULV based ultraportable? Or the P series?

Read these links:

http://translate.google.com/transla...E%B9-touch-screen&sl=el&tl=en&history_state0=


http://translate.google.com/transla...-6700.html&sl=it&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1

 

Interesting links armadilo,thanks! Something is preparing Sony, it doesn't make sense to have 3 Atom netbooks and no CULV. I remember that Sony promised a touchscreen model ,wonder which will be. It would great for the P or the X.

X series hands-on:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/laptops/news/2009/10/09/Sony-VAIO-X-Series-Hands-on/p1

 

I did not know battery is not replacable. Thou...this review is a 4 cell battery type, so in USA there is also 2 cell available, which is even lighter?

 

Oh no, this is a bad news !
So we will have to throw your $2000 Vaio X is the garbage when the battery will fail ( (in 2-3 years)

 

No, Sony will replace it for you (you'll have to pay for the new battery).

 

It's Lithium Polymer. Meaning it's expected to last 1000 cycles.

 

In a year, certainly. In two years, probably. In three years, possibly. In four years, unlikely. They'll just say that they don't support that model anymore.

 

But I will have to send my Vaio X to a Sony repair center (400 miles from here). They will send it back to me 1 or 2 months later and the Vaio case will probably be damaged because the new guy at the repair center doesn't how to open and close the Vaio X. There will be extra cost for shipping and labors.
This kind of bad "repair center" story has aldready happened to me.

 

I don't know if this link has been posted here, but there are a lot of pictures of Vaio X internal structure at itmedia.co.jp

• Vaio X autopsy at itmedia.co.jp (japanese)

About the battery : From these pictures, I think it is replacable. But the replacable battey pack have space in this center for the memory card readers in its center.

 

It is probably replaceable, just not user replaceable.

Meaning Sony doesn't want you to open up the laptop.

 

The battery is clearly user removeable: http://image.itmedia.co.jp/l/im/pcuser/articles/0910/08/l_tm_0910vaiox_b_13.jpg

 

But have a look to this picture. These are removable batteries for Vaio X.



Is there an internal batteries plus an external one ?

On this picture from akihabaranews the battery packs don't seem to be solder to an internal board.

 

There is one removable battery and there are two non removable batteries situated left and right of the touchpad.

Source: http://www.trustedreviews.com/laptops/news/2009/10/09/Sony-VAIO-X-Series-Hands-on/p1

Yes indeed.

 

It is still not clear to me how the profile looks with the two extended batteries attached. Do they just look just the same?
In the EU we just get two extended batteries, the middle size 8hr one and the largest one i think? Clearly the 2 cell one that comes as standard in the US gives this a flat profile. What about the one that comes standard in the EU?


I wish Sony would have offered the gold colour in the EU. For me this is meant to be a fun product, a bit of colour would have been nice.

Also, 256GB SSD this just hikes the price up, a 2ghz, 128GB SSD even with the standard 8hr battery alone would have been ok. This could have dropped the price by about £400. £1,600 for an atom product is really high but no doubt some people will pay this.

 

No no no, there is no internal battery, the two bulges on the external/removal battery pack flank the touchpad. No additional internal battery there. Look at the case bottom, once you take out the battery you can see the touch pad.

EDIT: deleted picture links as they don't work, look at my newer post below.

 

Your links are not working. This one is: http://images.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/12028-xserieslayout.jpg

Seems pretty clear where the batteries are. They don't look user replaceable to me.

The user replaceable battery is in the back.

 

The S & L battery are the same size and don't change the constant thickness profile, just different weight. Only X battery has that weird shape sticks out.

I think Sony just made the S battery so they can claim world's lightest -- you can't even purchase additional S battery if you go to Sony Japan. I hope US and EU do the right thing and just stick a L as default and X as free bundle.

 

Thanks Skyshade

 

OK, read this page then, it's the ITmedia complete tear-down that denony posted earlier, just page 2

http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/pcuser/articles/0910/08/news062_2.html

Look at the picture where the guy has X upside-down and has taken out the battery pack, you can already see the palm rest in its metal color and the touch pad.

The picture of bottom cover is on the immediate lower right of the guy taking it apart.

Scrolling down to the bottom you would see the pictue where denony pulled out that compares the three battery. You would notice that the battery packs all have two bulges -- those are where the battery cells are and they flank the touchpad.

Basically, the battery pack forms half of the bottom cover.

EDIT: by the way, if you can understand Japanese and read the page, you wouldn't need to jump through this hoop of detective work with just the pictures. It says clearly in the article what I just described.

 

Well my Japanese isn't that good but yeah some pictures show a user replaceable battery.

The pictures on TrustedReviews put me on the wrong foot.

 

http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/pcuser/articles/0910/08/news062_4.html

Look at the center picture in the bottom of the article with all components taken apart. Notice how nicely the battery sits in the hole of bottom cover. This should make it clearer

I am posting as I read, so I didn't see this picture earlier.

Yeah, the picture with Trusted Review is not wrong, but could be misleading -- it shows you where the cells are, just not how they are packaged.

 

Wait a minute, if you need to take of the whole cover to take out the battery that is what is called a "non user replaceable battery".

Or am I misunderstanding you?

 

I am saying the battery pack IS the bottom cover...at least half of it.

 

Well if you need to open up the laptop to remove the battery that is called a non user replaceable battery.

 

dude you need to look at the picture more closely...if you remove the battery without even using a screwdriver and then half of the bottom cover is gone with it and you can replace your touchpad, it is still called a removable battery...

 

Well the 40 pictures of completely opened up Vaio Xs don't make it any clearer to me, but maybe that's just me.

If you are saying the battery can be removed without using a screwdriver and without voiding warranty than it is a user replaceable battery. Simple as that.

 

It looks like you can also buy the battery from Sony which means that it is user replaceable.

http://www.sony.co.uk/product/batteries

 

Yes indeed.

By the way, the VGP-BPX19 is the weirdest looking battery I have ever seen.

 

seeing the fan inside the X series.. any chance getting the CULV inside this netbook err notebook later? and with that weird battery, i guess the height of the notebook is similar with 14" notebook.

okay im nbtd:

 

I'd actually call it a nice idea.

If I remember cortrectly the battery in the X is wide an flat.

This battery sits under the whole laptop and tilts is slightly towards you.
The result is that you only get an overal thicker laptop and nothing else - not a bulge as with old extended batteries.

 

hmm the concept of X is indeed interesting, nonetheless, I'm still skeptical of the atom performance esp. with 553mhz bus speed and 512k cache. I'm still crossing my finger that Sony would go with the CULV. the footprint of this notebook is perfect for traveling however... the fact that its an atom is a real turn-off.

I hope Sony will pun in CULV by december in the X, if not I'm going for TT

 

I went back 20 pages and didn't see this posted. They didn't go into much detail about the battery life but they did touch on the display a little. They described the 1.86 version as being a little slow in W7 with aero on.
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/laptops/352255/sony-vaio-x-series

 

little slow on W7 aero on, going back to basic gui. oh well atom.

First impressions weren't fantastic. With all Aero's fripperies switched on, the X-Series felt sluggish, and even dragging windows around the desktop proved a chore. Once we optimised Windows for best performance, though, things improved markedly. Without Aero's overhead, menus snapped to attention, there was no lag and it became perfectly usable. It just looked a little bit like Windows 98. We were also impressed once inside a program. Despite using testing formulae in Excel, the X-Series never felt slow, and likewise in Outlook responding to emails was effortless.