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    New VAIO P coming 9th of January

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by mrhaboobi, Dec 20, 2008.

  1. mrhaboobi

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  2. dampfnudel

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    Maybe it's Sony's new netbook?
     
    dampfnudel, Dec 20, 2008
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    why only new zealand?
     
    araharja, Dec 20, 2008
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  4. ascariss

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    sony does have the new vaios on the FCC blocked (image wise and manual) till the 7/8 of january, so this makes sense.
     
    ascariss, Dec 20, 2008
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  5. liquidtemper

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    wow, the openning line really shocked me.When i get in, it couldn't be displayed.......Speed sucks
     
    liquidtemper, Dec 20, 2008
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  6. scadsfkasfddsk

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    Your connecting to a New Zealand website from China...what do you expect?
     
    scadsfkasfddsk, Dec 20, 2008
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  7. denony

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    I think you are right. Sony has asked to FCC to held confidentiality about PEG-1P1L notebook PC until January 8th, 2009, which is the first day of International CES 2009 (Las Vegas). I think Sony will show it new notebook at CES.
     
    denony, Dec 20, 2008
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  8. Garmin

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    i would be very very sad if they release a 15.4 in laptop
     
    Garmin, Dec 20, 2008
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  9. dampfnudel

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    "On the 9th of January you will change the way you look at laptops.
    Forever."

    Bold words, maybe too bold. ;)
     
    dampfnudel, Dec 20, 2008
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  10. Jayayess1190

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    Maybe its the netbook with an oled screen! :eek: :D
     
    Jayayess1190, Dec 20, 2008
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  11. liquidtemper

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    Guess not becoz i'm in china.If it is, there maybe the same problem to connect the other countries' website, but in fact there isn't.
     
    liquidtemper, Dec 20, 2008
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  12. dampfnudel

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    With a statement like that, I'm expecting something else. Then again, you may be right and what Sony is trying to say is that after looking at the OLED screen on our new VAIO, every other notebook screen will look like crap. :D
     
    dampfnudel, Dec 20, 2008
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  13. ascariss

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    well sony is showing off a new walkman touchscreen at CES with an OLED screen.
     
    ascariss, Dec 20, 2008
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  14. gauden44

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    I think I saw an 11" OLED TV at the SonyStyle store. It was $2500. Maybe they plan to make a new netbook that costs $1k+
     
    gauden44, Dec 20, 2008
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    No, it will be a wonderful product if it is a 15.4 in laptop, which weights only 4 lb or less. ;) I will definitely take money out of my wedding fund to buy one right away.
     
    nanonfsmw, Dec 20, 2008
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  16. ascariss

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    anyone read japanese? :D found this on the FCC, the images are blocked till the 20th of january on the fcc website, external images that is.

    Oddly enough there are 2 new notebooks

    AK8PCG4R1L
    AK8PCG1P1L (AK8PCG1P2L)

    R and P, with R showing up on the FCC on the 19th of december. I am attaching a photo of the R from the fcc website.
     

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    ascariss, Dec 21, 2008
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  17. DirtHerder

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    The text doesn't reveal much. It is mostly markings for where various labeling goes, the battery compartment and memory compartment, etc.
     
    DirtHerder, Dec 21, 2008
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    *cross fingers* Come ooonnnn 15.4"!

    PS: Are those numbers measurements (perhaps in millimeters)?
     
    iNoob.x, Dec 21, 2008
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  19. ascariss

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    I believe those are in mm, I did a quick calculation and the width is 27 cm. and the depth would be 20 cm from edge of the hinge to the tip of the front.

    10.6 inch x 7.87 inch.
     
    ascariss, Dec 21, 2008
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  20. Garmin

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    lol what i meant was i would be sad if the 15.4in laptop came out after i got my SR. Before i got my SR, i wanted to get a 15in laptop form sony, but sadly the FW became a 16in laptop. So i went smaller in the SR.
     
    Garmin, Dec 21, 2008
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  21. scadsfkasfddsk

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    That would make it netbook size...
     
    scadsfkasfddsk, Dec 21, 2008
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  22. Skyshade

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    It may be the 12.1" Type G replacement...
     
    Skyshade, Dec 21, 2008
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  23. DetlevCM

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    Looking at the battery slot - huge Battery....
     
    DetlevCM, Dec 21, 2008
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  24. Benlehot

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    it's probably a new netbook

    maybe with a super duper oled screen
     
    Benlehot, Dec 21, 2008
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    From that diagram, the notebook appears to be about 27cm x 20cm (including the part where the battery juts out).

    That is virtually identical to the width and depth of a TT.
     
    hardc0re, Dec 21, 2008
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  26. DetlevCM

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    It can't be a netbook as this wouldn't make us change our way of thinking about computers.

    It must be something better.

    examples I can think of:
    Collapsable screen, or roll up screen.
    Extreme performance and incredible battery life in a tiny system...

    (Just speculation on my part)
     
    DetlevCM, Dec 21, 2008
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  27. b|lly

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    Maybe it really will be OLED with some "new battery" ?

    Like going close to 20 hours of battery life?
     
    b|lly, Dec 21, 2008
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    yup, but the TT is already on the FCC, so I doubt this is the TT. All we can do is just wait for CES.
     
    ascariss, Dec 21, 2008
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  29. b|lly

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    Or we can try to find out some inside info. I will start on monday ;)
     
    b|lly, Dec 21, 2008
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  30. ascariss

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    appreciated, if you have any info on the new walkman, don't hesitate to drop me a line via PM. :D
     
    ascariss, Dec 21, 2008
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    maybe it has no screen, keyboard or cpu
     
    zendar, Dec 21, 2008
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  32. DetlevCM

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    You mean a tablet PC?
    Possible - but they have been around - and I don't think touchscreens are that good yet.

    Saw an HP touchsmart today - it can't beat a good old mouse and keyboard for me.
     
    DetlevCM, Dec 21, 2008
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    Combining - the teaser on the ad "Change the way you look at laptops" with the post below on handtops.com I would say this is possibly the next Sony U series, featuring an OLED screen. On micropctalk.com the same poster claimed to have seen the prototype mid summer.
    Of course I could be wrong, but there was a second independent source on micropctalk.com who said he'd been told by Sony that new U series would come out in Q1 2009


    Handtops.com quote:
    http://www.handtops.com/forum/3587/0//First_HalfLife_capable_handtop_available.html#
     
    scoobie, Dec 21, 2008
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  34. bigspin

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    I think this is not another netbook release. I believe it's some kind of performance notebook with OLED display & graphic power (nVidia Chipset hybrid Graphics/Quad Core Cpu)
     
    bigspin, Dec 21, 2008
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    Will this be the only one that Sony will announce in January? Or will there be a refresh of current models?
     
    hendra, Dec 21, 2008
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  36. dampfnudel

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    A refresh of the Z is expected.
     
    dampfnudel, Dec 22, 2008
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    and TT too, I believe.

    But they cant do much on the Z model, only bigger HDDs and blu-ray/SSD combinations. or maybe 8GB of ram and 64 bit OS support.
     
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  38. outie

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    Available @ amazon for pre-order:

    Sony VAIO VGN-Z620N/B 13.1-Inch Laptop (2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo P8600 Processor, 4 GB RAM, 320 GB Hard Drive, Vista Business) Black

    Sony VAIO VGN-Z670N/B 13.1-Inch Laptop (2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo P9600 Processor, 4 GB RAM, 320 GB Hard Drive, Vista Business) Black

    Sony VAIO VGN-Z691Y/B 13.1-Inch Laptop (2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo P9600 Processor, 4 GB RAM, 320 GB Hard Drive, Vista Ultimate) Black [blu-ray]
     
    outie, Dec 22, 2008
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    Sony 'refreshes' models every three months. So a refresh is always expected. These refreshed usually don't mean much except for a new number, a bigger hard drive or faster CPU.

    This new model I'm guessing (hoping) for a Macbook Air competitor. Like Dell Adamo, Samsung X360.

    Very light 1.0kg 12 or 13", very thin.
     
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    Macbook air is a joke, not a laptop ;)

    OLED can mean very thin screen and light, but the biggest question is the bettery, according to the only pic we have it is HUGE. and I am sure its not huge without a very good reason!

    PS, sony introduced the first OLED TV in CES 2008.
     
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  41. hendra

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    From wikipedia:
    OLEDs enable a greater range of colors, brightness, and viewing angle than LCDs because OLED pixels directly emit light. OLED pixel colors appear correct and unshifted, even as the viewing angle approaches 90 degrees from normal. LCDs use a backlight and cannot show true black, while an "off" OLED element produces no light and consumes no power.

    OLEDs also have a faster response time than standard LCD screens. Whereas a standard LCD currently has an average of 4-8 millisecond response time, an OLED can have less than 0.01ms response time.

    Wow, that's perfect :)
     
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    In terms of sales it's not a joke as far as I know.

    Try finding another 13" laptop at the same weight with the same power. Impossible.

    Other than that, Macbook Air has one of the best screens of the computer industry.
     
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    pity it's a glossy screen, no dock is available, and it runs OS X.
     
    xand, Dec 22, 2008
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    Ok ok...lets try not to mess another vaio topic with macbook air, there are too many out there yet :)

    I will try to get some more info next week, right now i did not find out anything else than its already written here.
     
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    Better than Sony XBrite Hi-Color in term of color saturation, black level and low reflectivity?
     
    hendra, Dec 22, 2008
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    Color accuracy is hard to measure and will also be somewhat subjective.

    Contrast and blacklevels are easy to measure (luminanz=brightness, schwartz=black, durchsch=average):
    Sony Z:
    durchschnittl. Luminanz cd/m² 276,00
    Schwarzwert bei 100 cd/m2 cd/m² 0,30
    Schwarzwert bei maximaler Helligkeit cd/m² 0,70
    Kontrast bei 100 cd/m2 :1 334,00
    Kontrast bei maximaler Helligkeit :1 394,00

    Macbook Air:
    durchschnittl. Luminanz cd/m² 328,00
    Schwarzwert bei 100 cd/m2 cd/m² 0,14
    Schwarzwert bei maximaler Helligkeit cd/m² 0,45
    Kontrast bei 100 cd/m2 :1 714,00
    Kontrast bei maximaler Helligkeit :1 729,00
    http://www.notebookjournal.de/tests/inspection/apple_macbook_air_refresh_-752

    Z screen is matte, MBA is slightly glossy which helps with contrast and blacklevels. I've worked with it outside without any problems though.

    Sony SR (and SZ) with Toshiba panels come closer to the MBA screen in terms of contrast and blacklevels.

    Couldn't resist when you called it a joke :p

    But I agree, enough about the Air now.
     
    Phil, Dec 22, 2008
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    How does the OLED screen compare in term of reflectivity? I noticed from the youtube links that it is no better than LED screen.
     
    hendra, Dec 22, 2008
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    In the past, some refreshes were more than that:
    SZ3 corrected previous keyboard issues, added more rubber pads in the bottom of the screen so the bezel part with the VAIO logo didn't get scratched with the power buttons and switches when closed, and most important of all: they changed the screen in the SZ Premium, which had awful backlight bleeding in SZ1 and SZ2, for a nearly perfect one.

    What I'm expecting in Z3 is a bunch of changes like those. A new keyboard that doesn't get stuck, new rubber pads or a more rigid structure in the screen so it doesn't touch the keyboard, maybe a brighter screen, no problems with battery drains....
     
    Endeavour1934, Dec 22, 2008
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    Yet Apple fails by not mentioning the color gamut of their screens. And Sony has the best screens in that category (100% NTSC in Z, 136% in AW w/ expensive screen)
     
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