New VAIO P coming 9th of January

I'm pretty sure the Beta 2 of Vista ran with the Aero Interface but no transparancy on an Intel 915GM/GMS - that is at least 3,5 years old - so the one mentioned above should be more powerful.

I suppose its best to ask a Vaio P user...

 

Vaio P 1,86Ghz 128GB SSD 1234 euro at Conis.net. Seems like a pretty good deal.

 

This price is without the WWAN that for a lot of people is indispensable for this device. If you add the extended battery as well the price goes to 1534 euro, plus the 20% VAT. I would go CPU and the 64 GB SSD...I'm tempted also from the guys of Engadget that they tried Windows 7 on the P and is running smoothly!

 

Windows XP would even be faster I expect. 1.6Ghz would be fine.

 

Isnt the text font just too small on at 1600 x 768 on a 8 inch screen?
Is a netbook actually comfortable for work or just internet/mail checking?

 

The TimesOnline

The Top 10 gadgets 2009, so far.

Number 1, the Sony Vaio
http://timesonline.typepad.com/technology/2009/01/the-best-of-the.html

 

The pixels will be as small as on the Sony Xperia.

You'll either need to be close to the screen, increase the DPI in Vista or use the zoom function.

 

http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/sony-vaio-p.aspx?page=1

laptopmag review.

They like it, but think it's a little too slow.

 

Interesting read. It makes sense it's slow with the 1.33-GHz Atom and Vista.

I wonder how XP will do.

But if the 1.33Ghz already gets hot, I wonder how the 1.86Ghz will do.

 

Care to link?

 

I wonder how it would run with Windows 7 on there.

I recently upgraded a TZ to Windows 7 for a few days of testing and was very impressed by the increase in speed for things like booting up, opening applications etc.

I imagine a VAIO P with an official copy of Windows 7 preinstalled would be rocking. That's a good few months away though.

 

Hi Guys!

I'm owner of old VAIO T2XP, wich is Centrino Pentium M 1.2ghz ULV with 1gb of RAM.

Just want to know if the version with ATOM 1.6ghz/2gbRAM/SSD128gb will improve my performance.

Thank You!

 

If both run the same OS the latter will be faster.

CPU is slightly faster: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
The SSD is way faster.
The memory is larger and also faster.

However, a heavy Vista installation can seriously slow things down.

 

nethawk if you want to hang onto your laptop to make it faster you could always consider upgrading the ram and installing an SSD drive yourself.
I own a TX with a 1.33 Core solo processor though and i just bought an SSD drive to upgrade my laptop myself.
This post might interest you.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=325045

 

i looked on the past about upgrading my hdd to ssd but mine used a not quite common connector, i think normal is 50 so mine is 44 or anything like this, and this kind where expensive.

also, i have some temperature issues, it gets really hot and i think performance goes down when it happens. maybe i should recheck thermal paste between cpu and heatshink...

anyone know is ATOM cpu in this vaio is passive cooled or it have a fan??

 

as i see on the list my Pentiu M 1.2 is faster, i'm wrong??

Intel Atom 230 @ 1.60GHz 245 436
Intel Pentium M 1.20GHz 268 420

first colum higher is better, second lower is better

 

You're right. I was wrong. I confused it with Pentium 4 Mobile.

But keep in mind that the most people wait way more often for the hard drive than for the CPU.

Sorry typo. www.conics.net

 

yes, with the ssd it double vista note on HD performance. and processor i saw images that the 1.6 gets 3, and mine gets 2.7. but is quite wired that ram in mine gets 4.3 and in this gets 4.2 with faster ram and more capacity (1gb vs 2gb)...

 

uncooled...there really isn't such thing as passively-cooled

 

http://conics.net/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_40&products_id=401

 

Just to be certain about what your're saying: The P has no fan, then?

 

To me passively cooled means heat sink only. Uncooled would be without heatsink.

 

If microsoft refuses to put XP on vaio P as primary OS, why dont sony just put vista business on, which includes XP licence for freee, and users would be downgrade to XP ?

 

first shop listing I have seen in the UK - but no discount yet. That will change as soon as these don't start selling. £850 for the BASE model is a big ask imo

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/87055.../+Vista+Home+Premium+/+NetBook+/+Vulcano+Red#

I've left a review at Play.com (hopefully it gets approved) saying its overpriced. Not their fault - its Sony's

 

850 pound is 1200 $. And 850 is WITH TAX, while there is no, or very little tax in USA.

The price is quite real. I actually expected higher.

 

Sorry , I'm working in old exchange rates, I've taken out the conversion

To put it into perspective the 1.6 Samsung NC10 is widely available new at circa £300

 

Yes. But you cannot compare Yugo and BMW.

Samsung is crap compare to vaio P, thats why there is higher price of it.

 

The actual rate of exchange is closer to $1300.
http://www.xe.com/ucc/

I see that play.com is selling this as a netbook.

I wish Sony good luck with this but putting in a 1.33 base model i think might put some people of. Some people will look at other netbooks and see the 1.6 processor and GMA 950 and think that the Sony is too slow and to expensive for the spec. People who buy netbooks now seem to want SSD drives or a 2.5 5,400rpm hard drive also.

I hope that they do use a UK keyboard for the UK models.

 

You can get the 1.6 SSD model (why not 1.86??) in the UK but they've pulled a very clever trick by making this model exclusive to Sonystyle. That means no discounts. Sonystyle are top price on everything. Other retailers discount Sony extensively

https://www.sonystyle.co.uk/SonySty...2BC29B86490035842E3500C5E10080022BC29B73)/.do

 

I am sure that everyone who will buy this lappy will upgrade to Windows 7 right away (reports from engadget tried it and was fast). For me the issue of the P series is the battery life, and not it's slowness. We know that is made for basic surfing, word, and some movie watching...is not designed for performance. But if I decide to pull the trigger I will buy the SSD+1.6 Atom that should be ok.
From the review at laptopmag, is dissapointing the battery life, for sure people will use the extended battery instead.

 

It isn't available yet and I am already thinking the next refresh. Do you guys think that the refresh of the P in the next spring will have some significant differences? Maybe dual-Atom or a Core Solo? I am not in a hurry, but I love the design and since I sold my TZ I need an ultraportable.

 

jkkmobile has a P series due for a live testing session next week (or so he expects). Keep an eye on his website

http://jkkmobile.blogspot.com/

 

exetlaios, I also love the design, apart from one detail concerning the keyboard: I hope the for the next model SONY will locate the arrow key on a more separated and "grouped together" place on the keyboard, in spite of the limited space. It should be possible to arrange the keyboard in such a way that the right shift key is located to the left (and is a bit bigger) and also place the arrow keys in a fashion more like they have done for the T series (TX, TZ and TT).

 

Yes man, I read your previous posts about this issue...Sorry about that, no way that you are going to get used to it? Or is uncomfortable for you to type on?

scoobie,
Nice link, check out 3D Vaio P:
http://jkkmobile2.blogspot.com/2009/01/vaio-p-in-3d.html

 

For me, it is hard to get used to. And I tried with other similar keyboards in the past. (But perhaps the space between the keys makes it a bit better on the P?)

Unfortunately, I have to say that I find such keyboards uncomfortable to type fast on, without too much mistyping connected to this, for me, "issue", that is hitting the arrow up key when intending to type on the right shift key.

Hope Sony will change this on the next model, but this type of change is probably not carried through on a refresh of the same series, I suppose.

 

Nice video with some insights about the Vaio P and other netbooks:
http://jkkmobile.blogspot.com/2009/01/netbook-smackdown-sascha-at-scobleizer.html

 

Hmm, 2 hours 4 minutes on WWAN according to the Laptop mag review. Not very impressive.

 

if it really have NO FAN, no moving parts with SSD... it seems absolutly brilliant upgrade for my T2XP. I totally hate hot notebooks and of course FAN noise which is anoying in quite enviroments like university.

A little more punch will be nice, but maybe Windows 7 will do the job.

In spain the 1499€ version comes with 1.6/128gb SSD, and extra capacity batery (2 bateries, normal and large). Also comes with Vista Business Licence.

Also there is a version with same processor and hd as the 999€ version that comes with the extra battery and Vista Business for 1099 (higly recomended instead the 999€

In spain it comes with HSDPA but no word in Specs about GPS!!! Any idea?? GPS is really cool for travelers!

 

But it does get hot. At least I read that in one of the reviews.

 

I guess we needs to wait for some full well written and well tested reviews.

 

Yup, engadget installed Windows 7 beta and it seems to work quite well.

 

People..we have to understand that not all users are computer "geeks" who knows about W7 and who knows how to install it into a machine without optical drive.

99% of vaio P users will be clueless people, mainly women from a start.

 

With some tweaking Vista should not be any problem with 1.33Ghz and the SSD.

Flash will be a energy drain and will also slow down the system though. Firefox with Flashblock solves that.

 

Maybe there will be some sony tweaks on vista, if machine is really that slow, there is no point of selling it with vista.

 

Guys, how many speakers are inside vaio P? 1 or 2 ?

 

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Ten characters.

 

No, fan. I thought the Japanese report that tore a P apart showed very clearly. I will have to find the link if it's not shown here.

Well, I was just joking around with these conjured-up conventions -- I have seen them used multiple ways. Strictly speaking, you can passively cool as much as you can passively walk or passively run -- you just can't by definition of the word

From a more engineering perspective, having a heat sink does not change how you carried away the heat, it is still natural convection, you just change the area and mass so it does it faster. It is not entirely wrong to recognize having heat sink but no fan as slightly different from having fan or nothing at all, but it is also not exactly correct to call it passive-cooling because it's still the same cooling mechanism.

Anyway, only a bored engineer on a Sunday afternoon makes this kind of observation.

 

This?

http://i.gizmodo.com/photogallery/vaiopdissect/

 

Man, this VAIO P looks darn nice!

 

Great! Here you can see a giant of an Enter key, and the right shift key is located on the right side of the arrow up key, out on the right side of the keyboard, just as I prefer.

Take a look at this picture: http://i.gizmodo.com/photogallery/vaiopdissect/1005878920

Is this the UK keyboard (as distinct from the US keyboard)?