Sony New Series , when ?

Don't forget though, the SR is made and (hopefully) going to be priced against the M1330; knowing sony's style (no pun intended....-ish ), if they were to add an hdmi port, it'd most likely bring the price abit higher than competition (since relatively speaking, you do pay abit of a premium for the Vaio/Sony branding)

 

Check out the contours on the lid of the SR (by the hinge). Very curvy - like the lid on the CR and different from the (almost flat) lid of the Z. By the angle of that curve I'd say mainstream model; it's designed to subtlety reflect light more so than to accentuate the profile. (original S for comparison) Probably a shiny lid with a variety of colors available. Can't wait to see the real pics. The (visual) differences between the two models are probably night and day.

 

FW has no docking station port, both SR and Z have one.

 

Hey great work, thanks!

I don't know how accurate this is, but I scaled the SZ vs Z such that the USB ports are the same size.

Here's the comparison, and as rahul points out, it does seem to be more compact, albeit a little thicker than I'd like. Has anyone found dimensions?

 

Hmmm nice scaling job
But I don't think 0.2" of a decrease would make THAt big of a space gap (length wise) between the SZ and Z.
Still, I'd love to be proven wrong

 

great! looks promising, cant wait to see it in the flesh

Im glad they are going for that large cylinder hinge design and taking a step back towards the S series

 

According to the manual, the Z-line's Blue-Ray Dics ROM can't write DVD+/-R DL, but the one in SR can...can someone explain this? Is it mistake?

 

Are the dimensions written somewhere? If there's only 0.2" depth difference then my crappy scaling mustn't be very accurate.

 

he means 13.1 v 13.3

 

i'm waiting for SR ..... i hope it will be great in both looking and specs!

 

The difference is that the 13.1" is a 16:9 ratio screen with a 1366x768 or similar resolution, whereas the 13.3" is that 16:10 ratio screen with a 1280x800 screen.

Thats why the 13.1" Z is a lot more shallow than the 13.3" SZ.

 

I don't see "how to use" 3G+ in the Z guide ... ? Is it supposed to mean that there is no 3G feature ? :-(

 

Sry man didn't mean to offend u; my comments weren't sarcastic.
And Redline is probably right, so I apologize again for jumping the gun.

 

Looking at the VAIO Z Manual (p. 109) it seems like switching between stamina and speed modes does not require a reboot. What do you guys think?

 

I think you are right! In the SZ750 manual (page 107), it mentions the computer needs a restart!

 

Since we got the two more threads for the new Sony models, we should just end this thread. We already know when the new series of notebooks and when they are coming. There are too many threads on the same topic...

 

The other two didn't need to be started, the info could have been posted in this one.

 

This thread has a lot of great posts. Let's keep it. Someone could re-name the title to "Sony New Series (SR, Z, FW)" so that people know we're just talking in general about the models.

If you want to jump start things you can make the dedicated SR, Z, and FW "Owners" threads so that people interested in only a particular model will have an easier time finding it.

I'd probably close those other two mini-threads that spawned from this one. The same info is repeated anyway.

 

Note the #1 post is about when the sony is coming, not information about it. If users are going to plow through 32 page of text... I rather look away, so it's actually better to have another thread up. Mods will answer shortly anyway. Me think both thread will still be active.

 

Right. Which is why I thought changing the title of the thread would help. I can't imagine people starting at post #1 in a 30+ page thread; all the good stuff is at the end anyway.

 

The problem with that is that all information was scattered around over 32 pages. So in my opinion it is helpful to start a separate thread.

The fact that people were asking the same questions again and again in this thread was another sign that most people don't read 32 pages.

The thread Rahul started was a FW thread originally, but got changed into all models.

 

No, I just thought you meant something else. It's good news as maybe the new Z series really will be that compact!!

 

How about we change the title to something like: "Upcoming Sony Series/Models"?
Since this thread is so big, we should also make it a sticky.
The other two threads focus on the specific notebook series, which seems pointless when we had this thread to begin with...

 

Three threads about the same topic. Guys please post future info in a single thread.

 

I guess everyone is just so excited about Sony's upcoming notebooks.
They should just make a Sticky or something, instead of making all these different threads on a similar topic.

 

Why not simply update/edit the first post of this thread as the information comes along

simple

 

hello i'm late to stumble on this thread. the links are dead. i guess sony took it off after so much hits from this forum.

i'm a vaio lover! cant wait to scrutinise the manual to justify my upgrade from SZ.

 

You can always look for the manuals in Google's cached pages...

 

Try here:

...

 

thank you Phil, its a much better suggestion than telling me to get from cache of google which i tried and it's not cache by google anyway.

cheers!

 

Thanks PhilFlow. After rahulnirmal told us the previous links were discontinued by Sony, the best way to look for them was through Google's cached pages. This helps a lot!

 

US Model listings from their official site:

VGNSR140ES
VGNSR150FN
VGNSR190EAJ
VGNSR190EAQ
VGNSR190EBJ
VGNSR190EBQ
VGNSR190ECJ
VGNSR190ECQ
VGNSR190NAB
VGNSR190NBB
VGNSR190NCB
VGNSR190NDB
VGNSR190NEB
VGNSR190NFB

VGNZ570AN
VGNZ570FN
VGNZ575FN

VGNFW190EAH
VGNFW190EBH
VGNFW190ECH
VGNFW190NAH
VGNFW190NBH
VGNFW190NCH
VGNFW190NDH
VGNFW190NEH

 

I saw that as well but it has to be inaccurate, there cannot possibly be so many variations of the FW190 and SR190 models for instance.

And there was also at least a Z550 model as well.

 

Sure they can. Colors.

 

Lol. I think you are right. Great job iisdev.

Maybe we can already see what colors by comparing it to the model names of CR series.

 

Hmm, I wonder why these models second to last letter are descending alphabetically? I never heard nor seen of Vaio models doing this. I don't know what the differences these models would have since if the difference was color, usually the last letter would be different.

Such as for a white FW190 model, it would be FZ190N/W and for silver, FZ190N/S

 

I know that one of the resellers in Netherlands specifically mentions one SR190 model to be silver colored.

 

Meh, I gave up trying to decipher the product names a while ago. On the CR series the color was indicated by a third digit (W=white, R=red, L=blue, N=gold, T=crocodile lol) but that wasn't always the case on previous models. They could be naming them sequentially this time or maybe they're being *extra* careful and using placeholders for the NotebookReview sleuths. Who knows?

In any case that third digit coupled with that curve I mentioned on the lid of the SR offers some compelling evidence that what we're looking at is _the_ replacement for the CR. It's definitely a mainstream model and the competitors actually have some strong lineups to compete with - look at Dell's Studio lineup for example.

I don't think the CR was as popular as they would have liked. Did you see how many were being dumped through the outlet store on the Sony Style site? Tonight I counted over 70 - way more than any other model. They are obviously having problems selling it. The "fashionable" color choices and the decision to remove the dedicated ATI unit (in the US at least) all indicate that it was being marketed to a casual, mainstream audience. While the price point was right, that same audience was probably turned off with the larger screen size, desktop footprint, and weight of the CR. Sony probably realized this - they knew the TZ was out of the question because of price. The SZ on the other hand catered towards a completely different audience. The other products were eliminated because the screens were too big. The result was that the consumers (that the CR was created for) looked elsewhere (my guess is Apple). The SR (from what we learned from the manual) goes a long way to addressing most of these issues.

Well, just a thought.

Oh, one other small piece of evidence to consider is their decision to change the order the models were listed (on the Sony Style site). Previously the CR was listed second. (TZ, CR, SZ, etc..) which was representative of where they thought it belonged (in terms of target audience). That changed a few weeks ago (iirc *before* the Montevino delay was announced). The order is now (TZ, SZ, CR, etc..) ordering it by screen size. Replace the SZ with Z and CR with SR and it totally makes sense.

 

i know Z suit them but they could save "S" for 13'' notebooks !
S - SZ - Z
J - CR - SR ?

 

The reason there are so many SR190 or FW190's listed is that for resellers Sony offers preset BTO configurations so that resellers will have some flexibility when their customer comes to them with a Sonystyle.com configuration and says what kind of pricing can you get me on this?

They do this will all of their series that have BTO options on Sonystyle - See the SZ740 or SZ780 series - Places like CDW and Newegg have SZ740N1, SZ740N2 and so on models with different configurations so they have options to present to their customers.

 

Yes, the SZ does differentiate configurations by the use of second letter (I have a NW for example which included the WLAN board). We're sort of interested in the presence of the third digit. Previously Sony has used three digits to identify specific color or style variations (C/CR series for example) in addition to the hardware configurations. Are you going on record stating that the SR does not come in multiple colors?

 

I know they have used similar naming conventions in the past, but to glance at the SR190 list there it seems that all of those particular SR190 models with be a single color.

N for Vista Business
x (A-whatever) for build designator
B for Black (at least that's what they've used in the past)

Who knows. July 15th is only 15 days away now...

 

The problem is compounded by the fact that they haven't been consistent; on some models they've used 'K' to indicate black (especially when another color was associated with that letter (blue, burgundy, etc..) Color varies by region as well.

The same is true for the order of the digits. In general the first is OS related but only in cases when multiple OS's were available. The second digit in the CR series was somewhat of a mystery. The 'B' (for US models) could have stood for 'Basic' or 'Barebones' as these machines lacked the dedicated ATI card that other models had. (main difference). The third digit was obviously the color. Sometimes they'll follow the model name with a '/' to indicate some other upgrade (Carbon fiber for example). In other regions it's different - in Europe the color was after the '/'.

 

Im not sure if my fellow Canadians are aware but. (Happy Canada day by the way!) you can no longer customize the SZ780 at sonystyle.ca. Leaked info I read on the net just now also shows the Z series is replacing the SZ with the same 13.3inch screen which im pretty sure you guys knew. Anyway just a heads up. Cheers!

I! aM! CaNaDiAn!!!

 

Interesting. Looks like the end of an era. Regardless of whether you loved or hated the SZ's design you have to respect some of the breakthroughs they made during the design & manufacturing process. I don't think any other model (except perhaps the X series) had that much thought put into it.

Hopefully the new Z won't disappoint but I already have doubts after seeing the mashup that is the SR.

 

oh i can't wait for 15th july ........

 

This might sound a bit stupid, but what happens on the 15th?

Does it go on full sale or just an announcement?

 

Announcement.

 

The 15th of July will be
http://club.vaio.sony.co.uk/clubvaio/gb/en/vaio10/

Sales are expected to start at the beginning of August.

 

Nice! I'm hoping Sony will knock a few hundred pounds off the TZ32VN/X to make way for new ultraportable models in autumn...