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    Sony Vaio S13 IPS Display Mod

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by prone, Feb 17, 2013.

  1. moritz.miklos

    moritz.miklos Newbie

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    Hi,

    I made the same modding on my Sony SVS1312R9EB. I place the new screen in, and changed the DIP switches, but I have a problem with the colors, and the frequency. I attached a oicture about it. I didn't changed the cable yet. Is it the reason of the old cable? Should I order it?
    Thanks for your help!
    710_3999.jpg
     
  2. oelkstul

    oelkstul Notebook Guru

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    So I finally also did the mod on my win7 model, using a LP133WD2 SLB1 panel bought at aliexpress. The screen is really a pleasure to work with.

    Like most of the others, I also cannot see bios or grub on startup.
    After flashing another modded bios the screen also does not work in windows; there seems to be a problem with detecting the panel upon reboot and first run of uefi/bios :D

    I suspect that flashing and swapping in the old panel at first boot might resolve this issue, but I wanted to warn others of flashing if they rely on using the build in screen in windows.

    As mentioned before, new versions of the bios might not have this issue, so I would like to ask which bios version you are using.
    I might either upgrade or take a look at the roms and see if I can mod the modded bios further :)

    Also for the newer (secure boot - bull enabled) bios version: has anyone had trouble with dual booting into this?
     
  3. torsibel

    torsibel Newbie

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    Hello guys,
    Let first me to congratulate with you for the various mods you did in yours VAIO S models. Congratulations! They are beautiful and I was intrigued.
    I have a question. I have a VAIO S VPC-S13 Win7 aged 2010 and I have to replace the screen since there are a lot of high brightness spots on it. I wonder to buy a better screen, and the LP133WD2(SL)(B1) you used for your mods is a good idea. I know I'll have to do some cuts and I have to replace the LVDS single-channel cable with a two-channel one. I have read the whole thread, and the various mods were made with models from VPC-SA and above, so from 2011 model. Do you think I can make this mod possible even on my model?
     
  4. torsibel

    torsibel Newbie

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    just to do a little update. Yesterday I do a teardown of my notebook and I found that there is not a 40pin LVDS connector on mainboard (as showed in the photos of your models) but there is a 30pin connector, possibly eDP. I think that the mod on my model is not attuable, and when I checked the service manual for the LCD DIP switch there were no positions for the HD+ resolutions. In any way, I think that all this is not definitive, but at least the mod has to be changed, in terms of a different flat cable to connect the LG 900p screen, or in terms of an eDP IPS 900p screen, or even an eDP IPS 1366x768 screen, that i think is the maximum that I can connect on the mainboard to be properly discovered. If anyone has some information and/or advices please share them with me.
     
  5. ijozic

    ijozic Notebook Deity

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    I'm curious how sensitive these screens are with time? Anybody had their new screens cracking after installation?

    I messed up the first one after cutting the bottom PCB sides and supports - it worked, but after installing the bezel it didn't (or it appeared that way - in retrospect, I think it was just waiting on the DOS screen to report that Windows didn't shutdown correctly last time as I might have just killed it with the power switch), so when I was taking it off, the PCB moved and the tiny ribbon cable broke. The second one might have been broken from the start - forgot to test it before modding it. After all was set and done, I turned it on only to notice that the screen has cracked in one corner. Pressing the spot could lead to a working image for a moment only. So, I'm considering to try again, but I hope the screen does not crack easily when the laptop is carried around.
     
  6. tobyunna

    tobyunna Newbie

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    Hi all,

    I have arrived at this forum/thread while searching for a replacement LVDS cable for my S13 laptop, and it now seems that while the machine is in bits I might as well change the panel while I'm at it. However, I am not fully sure that my Vaio is a suitable candidate for this upgrade and would appreciate any input before I go ahead. I would add that I am aware that the information I need may be contained earlier in the thread, and I have read it through, but am not sufficiently sure to order any parts...

    The model number is SVS1313P9E / SVS131G22M
    Current (as shipped) panel is the lower 1366*768 version and the machine does not have the upgraded nvidia graphics system, just the basic Intel HD4000
    LVDS cable states 1ch on ID tag

    My uncertainty is really whether my laptop can run a 1600*900 panel or not, given that it was shipped as the lower spec 1366*768 model - will swapping the LVDS cable to a 2channel cable (and I'll be honest, I don't know what that actually means) make this possible, or do I have to stick with 1366*768?

    Many thanks for any and all input..

    Toby
     
  7. Jaguar

    Jaguar Notebook Consultant

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    I tried this mod today and it took a while but I got everything together.
    I had the SLB1 LG display and 2ch lvds cable. Laptop product name is svs1311p9eb and/or model is svs13a11m, i5-3210M and gt640LE.

    I'm pretty sure the fuses are fine and the cable is ok but all I'm getting is a black screen with backlight. It boots up into windows and I can control the backlight with the keys but nothing else. Hdmi output works fine. The laptop display is indentified as "vaio_lcd" and it only shows resolution as 1366x768. I tried every dip setting but no change.

    I think Aipher in this thread had the same issue. Any ideas? Is it possible that this model of svs13 is just simply not compatible with the lg panel? It would be great if others confirmed working/not working and their laptop model.

    edit: after upgrading the bios to R0143C5 (from 0142) the lcd is identified as "digital flat panel 1024x640 60hz" so something changed.
     
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  8. alektoro

    alektoro Notebook Consultant

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    When you unplug the original display, did you take out your battery? I didn't and had the same black screen with backlight control. I had to solder over the blown fuse to get the screen working again.
     
  9. Jaguar

    Jaguar Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, battery had been out for several hours and I made sure to not have any static charge on me.
    I checked the fuses and they were 100% fine. Both had continuity and 0 resistance so they must be okay. Unless there is some other fuses I'm not aware of, apart from the 2 in the starting post.. but I see no reason for it to blow since there was absolutely no power on the board.
     
  10. swchoo6087

    swchoo6087 Newbie

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    I think I found a solution for SVS13A1 users (Windows 7 Model)

    I found no-signal until windows is caused by rejection of low resolution.

    I mean, screen can't display 480 * 640 of pre-windows screen.

    If you see both win7, win8 model running windows 8, you may notice booting logo's resolution is different.

    win7 model shows logo under 640 * 480 but win7 model shows higher resolution.

    So the point is : abandon windows bootloader and grasp grub or clover bootloader to adjust resolution high.

    I didn't mod the screen yet, so I request you guys who using moded screen on win7 model to use grub or clover(when we use on hackintosh) bootloader

    I think it may work. But I guess still BIOS would be black world.
     
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  11. ijozic

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    I feel stupid for asking, but are you sure the cable is fully connected? I had the same behaviour (black screen with backlight on) when I was connecting mine since without the filed off supports, the bottom electronics board is quite sensitive (and I broke the ribbon cable on my first attempt when taking the modded screen off). I thought it might have been the fuse, but then tried the old screen and saw it working, so I've tried again and this time made sure it was fully in.

    Oh, so finally joined the IPS club after two unsuccessful attempts :) The difference was worth the mess still, IMHO. Now if there was only some fan mode.. ;)
     
  12. Jaguar

    Jaguar Notebook Consultant

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    Yes cables and fuses and everything else is working. It is definetly a bios/driver/related issue. The screen will not work after a bios upgrade and of course the tool did not create a backup of old bios even when I told it to.

    Problem seems to be there is somewhere locked information about the screen resolution and so on, DIP switches do not make a difference. Maybe embedded controller or management engine related.

    Can anyone with a working IPS display and svs13 send me their bios dump please? I think this is the only change to get the screen to work, to try to see what is different. I have the R0142C5 bios.

    edit: you can try this tool to create a dump of your bios: https://www.sendspace.com/file/5i78hl
     
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  13. Jaguar

    Jaguar Notebook Consultant

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    Alright the problem is definetly with windows and intel drivers or something.
    I put in a linux live usb-stick and guess what? The screen works right away.

    edit: I might still need that bios so if someone with the IPS mod and r0142 or 0143c5 (or 0140c5) bios could get the dump that would help.

    It seems the laptop looks for some information from the screen itself since as soon as I plug the original one in it is recognized as "vaio_lcd" and the resolution locks to 1366x768.

    I installed intel graphics drivers straight from intel and the screen resolution was recognized as 1600x900 but for some reason refresh rate as 49hz and still no picture. After plugging in the original screen this resolution was locked again at 1366.

    It seems where the laptop keeps the information about the vaio control center stuff, like battery charging settings and touchpad settings it also records the screen information. Since that stuff carries over to even a clean windows install.

    Somehow linux doesn't look at that place for screen info at all and just bypasses it. That's why it works.
    That's why also the FN keys do not work and so on. So linux is not the solution regrettably.
     
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  14. anytimer

    anytimer Notebook Virtuoso

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    Seems like you have an EDID issue.

    Does connecting an external monitor work at all? You might be able to set a resolution for the LCD that will work.

    Another way would be to make a custom inf for the screen.
     
  15. Jaguar

    Jaguar Notebook Consultant

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    Yes external monitor works as well as the original lcd. The IPS panel does not, in windows.

    I'm not sure it's strictly a resolution issue since even when I got windows to recognize it as 1600x900 there still was no picture. Refresh rate was locked at 49hz. The panel was in device manager as "flat panel display 1024x768" though so I will need to look into that custom inf, if that's what you meant.

    edit: Alright I created a custom EDID file that would work but...

    Intel IGPs do not accept EDID overrides. If this really is why the monitor is still not working.. this will be the last Intel product I will buy. There is no reason why they don't allow this.
     
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  16. alektoro

    alektoro Notebook Consultant

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    After applying the mod for 5 months, a thin blue vertical line popped up on my screen. The line turns yellow when rendering a white background and remains yellow indefinitely until I reboot. I put the old screen back on and it didn't have the line, so I guess it's the IPS's problem. Is there a fix to this?
     
  17. scepjep

    scepjep Newbie

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    I have been thinking of performing this modification for some time but the complexity and work required with the costly mistakes that have been made was making me hesitate. However I finally found a cheap SLB1 screen and decided to have a go.
    I have a SVS13A1X9ES with the 1600x900 panel that as everyone has said is not very good to say the least with very poor viewing angles especially vertically
    I removed the screen bezel and the panel and managed to pull the LVDS cable a bit more to reach to the connector. I then placed the new SLB1 panel in the screen housing and to my surprise it fitted almost perfectly. The screw holes on the metal brackets around the panel aligned exactly with the holes in the panel and I used the screws from the old panel to secure it. I did not cut any of the PCB at the bottom of the panel bit left it to rest over the hinges. The bezel clipped back on again after removing the plastic clips at the bottom of the bezel and it looked ok with a small gap at the bottom after fitting.
    The new screen is a massive improvement on the old screen and I am very pleased with the result but I do not understand why my mod sees to be a lot easier than everyone else.
    Many thanks for all who have helped with information for this - I now have the perfect laptop.
     
  18. Darkimmortal

    Darkimmortal Notebook Evangelist

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    I had a similar experience, the commonly posted installation instructions are for an overly perfect installation, you can do a good enough installation doing as you've described. I have no issue with a bit of a bulge on the bezel
     
  19. Darkimmortal

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    So I just found I needed to access the BIOS, and have had the same experience of other posters - it is impossible to access the BIOS setup screen (or any other DOS-like low res stuff) from either the laptop's display or via HDMI.

    Only via VGA was it possible, which I guess is better than nothing

    As some have noted, it is possible that this limitation only affects the Windows 7 model.
     
  20. ijozic

    ijozic Notebook Deity

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    Someone provided a fairly effective solution:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...lay-bios-brightness-issue-solved-edid.772958/

    It's pretty straightforward, did it in like around 5 minutes once the Ubuntu USB disk was ready.
     
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    Just to help out those with older models like mine (VPCSA2SGX), the IPS swap worked great with minimal trimming and I have had no problem getting into the BIOS settings with no changes or workarounds needed.
     
  22. bluescrn

    bluescrn Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, my IPS screen had worked nicely for about 18 months, other than a bulging bezel and a hinge that never recovered from the mod...

    But today I managed to kill it... and also the spare screen that I had from the initial mod...

    I'd found some strong double-sided gel tape that I thought would do a good job of holding my wonky bezel in place, but in the process of disassembling/reassembling, I managed to completely kill the screen. Too much force applied to the bottom of it, I think.

    Still had a spare screen, so took the dremel to it - nice clean cuts and a quick install - all seemed to be OK until reassembling the bezel (with much smaller amounts of double-sided tape), and I must have squeezed something too hard - cracking it at the bottom left corner... leaving about 2/3rds of the screen working, and the rest random scanlines... argh.

    Oh well, I'd been considering an MBP 15" for a while, and finally pulled the trigger.

    Not sure if I'll throw more money at the S13 to replace the screen again. The specs are still decent, but the battery is well past its best, and the keyboard had been acting up (space bar not always responding).

    Annoyingly though, I'd got Win10 running quite nicely on it, even managed to sort out the Synaptics driver issue (Windows Update repeatedly installing an incompatible driver...)
     
  23. ijozic

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    Well, the battery can be changed easily and I use the external one as well (though, I charge them to 80% which should reduce the heat during charging and thus prolong their lives)..

    I messed up two screens as well. The first attempt I described here, on the second one the screen got cracked at one side similar to yours, although I've been careful and all (unlike with my spare original screen which was left on the floor so I guess the cat got to it as it was also cracked). Original screen cracking was a good thing in a way as it got me to trying once more and third time was the charm :) That time I also used some double sided scotch tape for the bottom part of the bezel since the original sticky thing was too thick. Worked great so far.
     
  24. Jaguar

    Jaguar Notebook Consultant

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    I decided to look into my screen issue again after giving up earlier this year and thank you for this post. I had tried to get the LG SLB1 panel to work with my svs1311 but I got no picture in windows or bios but strangely worked in linux straight away.

    I did try this method earlier too and wrote a new EDID into my screen in linux but it did not seem to work even though every bit was supposed to be correct. I tried multiple edids and combinations but nothing. I almost didn't try again since this seemed the same as what I tried but there was a different method and program used that wrote the edid and I wanted to at least try the different edid file. I had tried before using the i2c-dev bus with a different command and there was some problems even though it was reading the edid.

    Finally, after 1 broken screen and bricked motherboard and way too much spent time and money the last piece was the edid from that post flashed with the program described. Finally works straight away from boot.

    There was some people in this thread that had the same problem as I did, look above for the solution. Should really work.
     
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