Best Internet Browser 2020-2021

Opera and Vivaldi are based on Chromium.

 

Then there is not many good choices anymore. I see it mentioned here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_(web_browser)

 

There's also Pale Moon which for all intents and purposes is a port of older Firefox code to work on the modern web. It's not something I would personally use unless I was really desperate, but it's still there.

 

Thanks everyone...I think Firefox is the only real answer...at least as long as they last!

 

Opera. I once did a very crude test. I opened Firefox, Chrome and Opera.

Put the same 15 pages open on them at the same time as tabs. Looked at the memory use in task manager.

And Opera used around half the memory as Firefox which used a crazy amount of memory and a third less than Chrome

I have 64GB of DDR4 memory installed on my system and a 3800x CPU but I still notice my browser running more snappy when I use Opera compared to Chrome and Firefox. It is therefore a godsend on PCs that are old and without much memory.

Its based on Chromium and you can install all of Chromes addons to it, so there is no reason not to use it. I will never go back to regular Chrome as long as Opera exists.

(My post is answering the topic title question, not the last question about which is the best non-chromium based browser to use).

 

i can tell

opera only one with a vpn...nuff said

 

It is unfortunate because Chrome is the only browser I actually like, but I have switched back to Firefox. It sucks, but it is what it is. Now I jusy have to figure out the best way of removing Amazon from daily life.

 

Dunno how you managed to that bro. When using Firefox, I feel like I have downgraded my internet back to dialup. Loading pages is annoyingly slow it damages my nervous system compared to the insta-loading and snapiness of Chromium based browsers.

 

Right. That is why I prefer Chrome. It is a whole lot better, and it looks better.. But I am not going to support Nazis just because they have nice things. I think doing the right thing is more important even when it is a pain in the butt. Kicking Amazon to the curb is going to require more effort though. Cancelling my Facepoot and Twatter accounts was easy since they've sucked for a long time and quit using them a long time ago. They merely confirmed what I already thought about them.

Edit: Updated my thread poll accordingly.

 

Assuming memory isnt an issue, what browser do you all recommend? I currently just use chrome out of practicality, but if I can get more performance, then I would certainly switch to something else. I am still on a 4core i7 Kaby lake btw.

 

Opera, Brave, Firefox and Vivaldi are in my opinion the 4 you should look at to see which one you like the most as they are the top 4 in my opinion.

And I would put them in that order from best to least best.

 

Cent Browser, Lots of Features.

 

Chromium is my daily browser, mainly because its sync feature.

 

Might be the unpopular one here, but the chrome based Edge is my daily. I've read that Google is killing the sync API, which will probably make me turn to Firefox again if Edge won't support Google sync.

 

I'm using Brave.
For exactly 1 website, I have to use Chrome (compatibility issue it seems - but the website previously worked fine with Brave browser, and I suspect that the website in question is the problem - its a college website and is experiencing huge problems with functionality all the time - so its always breaking down for everyone).

 

Maybe you'll change attitude against Microsoft? Hope you can be one of the few selected/volunteers.

Just as for the previously mentioned test, for this one too Microsoft has enabled the reward point earnings only for US residents, and only for some of them.

If you want something on the store. A very nice deal you simply just can't say no to

Microsoft offers reward points if you use Edge [PC, Mobile] windowsreport.com

 

I don't think so.

I finally gave up trying to use Firefox and went back to Chrome. I gave it plenty of time, just as I did Brave. As much as I despise Google, the alternatives just suck too bad to put up with them.

As much as I do not want to admit it, Edge is the next best option. I know it is built on a Chromium foundation, but it is also inferior to Chrome. And, I hate Micro$lop just about as much as I do Google.

So, here we are. Choosing among all sucky options identifying the option that seems to suck the least. It's pretty sad to think that there isn't an option that can be viewed as excellent, or even good. But, that's where we are.

 

What's so bad about firefox? It has a lot of plugins etc. Other than from what I read the high ram usage but I don't use more than 2-3 tabs normal use never chugs for me. Waterfox variant is lower usage but not as good plugins. Palemoon pretty lightweight but I think that's a chrome variant.

 

I find the look and feel of using it less favorable and somewhat clumsy. I also notice some variance in the way a few pages rendered and some URLs were slow to resolve and load. It wasn't unbearable, just less pleasant. Chrome just does everything faster and with less effort for me. If I were a long-term Firefox user it probably would have been inconsequential. Because I have been using Chrome almost exclusively for probably 12 years or more, trying to make the switch just made everything too inconvenient. Basically very similar to the reasons switching to Brave just didn't do it for me. Having to interrupt my browsing to tweak things really rubs me the wrong way. With Brave it was a constant and nagging issue having to stop my browsing activity to add web sites using Java to a white list. With Firefox it was not Java, but other things that interrupted the browsing in similar ways. So, often less convenient and slightly annoying, and at times more than slightly annoying.

I still hate Google and would love to be able to eliminate all things Google, but I think their hooks are set so deep that doing so is so unpleasant that I will have to become more resolute in my loathing and more willing to tolerate the disruption and inconvenience than I am now. Severing all ties with their fellow Nazis (Facepoot and Twatter) was totally effortless and painless, and I was hoping that carrying out the Google death sentence would have been so easy. It's going to take considerably more effort to make Google dead to me, but not due to a lack of desire to see it happen, including flushing my own YouTube channel down the toilet and deleting all of its years of content as a matter of principle. Doing that effectively would also mean eliminating cell phones for me because embracing Apple is absolutely out of the question as far as I am concerned. I view Apple as being more loathsome than Google by a narrow margin.

 

Totally agree about google, apple is worse imo but they're easier to avoid, but google has android so what you going to do there, kinda no good choice afa phone platforms. The overlords, google, apple, microsoft, amazon etc are all the same. I've not used my fb for months no plans to go back either, twitter have an account somewhere never used it, instagram is I think owned by fb, haven't used that in months either will probably delete it eventually. I have a yt account with one video haven't used that in months at least.

 

Chrome feels fastest for me, especially for its pdf viewer. It does eat more ram but over here we start at 16gb and only go up from there, so no big deal

Expecting to have to switch once manifest v3 makes adblockers useless. I already use firefox on my ubuntu installs since it comes by default, and stockholm syndrome will probably kick in eventually if im forced to it or some other browswer

 

AdGuard works at the OS level so it won’t be affected by Manifest V3. It’s not freeware but they do offer lifetime licenses, and it goes on sale frequently. I’ve been using it for years, and their support is pretty good when it comes to ads that get missed, software bugs, etc.


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100%. I am a satisfied AdGuard user with several lifetime licenses.

 

The only thing that would make it perfect in my eyes is the ability to whitelist specific YouTube channels where you would be OK with ads playing but not others. It doesn't affect me personally since I have YT Premium, but if I didn't, I don't want to block ads across the whole platform to where it would hurt the creators I most enjoy watching.

 

I've been using Chrome as my main browser for many years now, and I'm not going to change it. Sometimes, I use Opera for work as as back up.

 

I like it for a lot of reasons. One of the things I like about it is the ability to select sections of web pages where rubbish like Facebook and Twitter links and clickbait tabloid trash appears. It's nice to see nothing but white space where that crap used to be.

 

Thinking about buying Adguard family lifetime license but I see the price is $169. Is there ever a discount or is this the lowest price and thanks. Sorry, I just noticed 40% coupon.

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Yes, I have seen it as low as about $20. I think that is what I paid. Usually on the big sales like Black Friday and Christmas is when the prices are lowest.

Glad you found a 40% off coupon.

 

Thanks. I saw a 3rd party site offering family lifetime for 29$ but don't know if I should trust them. Thabks


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Probably fine. If you can register the key to a personal account on the my.adguard.com web site, then it's legit. If you can't then ask for a refund for selling you bogus keys. That applies to ESET/NOD32 as well. If you cannot add the key to your own account at my.eset.com, then the sale is not legitimate.

 

Thanks much. Will try it.

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I don’t remember the name but I bought a couple of my lifetime licenses from 3rd party sites and they worked fine. The nice thing about the AdGuard online account is that you can revoke licenses at any time so if you reinstall Windows, you can easily reactivate the software.


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Yes, that is awesome. I wish all software that required online activation had an online license management console like AdGuard and ESET/NOD32. Makes things much easier. No need to email support to ask for a reset or listen to them whine and moan, or deal with nonsense about activation count limits. *flashes dirty looks toward Micro$lop Office*

 

Well said.

They are only about money, power, control, and being in everyone's personal business, and the cyber platform is about the ultimate tool in those regards.

Tech and usgov are pretty much one and the same, and some of these oppressive platforms like fb have been alleged to have been created in concert with gov if not fully by them.

The racial identity politics, social justice, critical race theory etc are all just forms of racial discrimination being used as tools to for power and control. They don't actually care about racism or discrimination.

The Marxist woke cult pretty much believes all of the media narrative (psyop) propaganda they are fed which will tell you what to think, what to believe, who to like, who to dislike, what is true, what is false, who to turn in, etc.

The only way to avoid being tracked and having all your data and personal info sold at this point is to not use any computer devices or internet. Which maybe not a bad idea in the near future.

 

Nice Chrome extension... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/calm-style-your-new-tab/nlbogimjpbkdemejcldggipfglbcflmn

 

Google Chrome now gobbles up 20% less memory on Windows bleepingcomputers.com
Google says that the latest Google Chrome version comes with major memory savings on Windows systems and improves energy consumption and overall responsiveness.

Google Chrome 89, which rolled out earlier this week, comes with significant Windows memory management improvements, with the browser process requiring up to 22% less memory.

According to Mark Chang, Chrome Product Manager, the new version also boasts 8% memory savings in the renderer and roughly 3% in the GPU.

 

I love Firefox because of it being open source and fast from my experience. Plan on switching back to it soon.

 

Wonder about the data Google collects in Chrome and links to you? Now we know ghacks.net March 16, 2021

Up until now, it was clear that Google was collecting data through its Chrome web browser and other services, but most users probably did not know the exact data types and data...

How about other browsers? Mozilla collects contact info (email), user ID and device ID, but nothing else, the DuckDuckGo Privacy Browser and Brave nothing at all, Microsoft Edge the device ID, browsing history and diagnostic crash data, and Opera the Device ID, Location, and diagnostics. Google is collecting more than anyone else in its Chrome web browser.

 

Firefox ESR - everybody should have it. No rush in 'features', more stable version with security updates.

 

Windows 10: Is Edge coming as new spyware?
Posted on 2021-03-22 by Borncity.de

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Let’s hope that the plans will quickly disappear into the drawer. In the latest Canary builds of the Edge browser, there is an option to share the history of visited websites in Edge with “other Windows features”. True, reasons could be found as to why this is needed. But this feature would be the perfect way to monitor where you’ve been surfing.

 

The bug that prevents users from closing Edge is for those that think they are going to opt out.

 

21H2 telemetry cannot be disabled by default as it switches to share basic info sharing otherwise basic info + full optional telemetry.

 

Pale Moon was good when it first launched then when they decided they wanna sway away from Firefox and have their own code (Gecko), it broke many things, lots of extensions don't work properly and numerous sites don't work. For example I use Zen Desk for work for our ticketing system. If I would login with Pale Moon, I would login successfully but then it just displays a blank page. I opened a thread on their forum but the developers don't give a crap really. It's like, use it as is or leave.

Now I use Google Chrome for personal use and Vivaldi for work. Vivaldi also has a sync feature, all extensions from Chrome work and it is the fastest browser I have ever tried to date it's insane how snappy and instant webpages load win Vivaldi.

 

Some floc info.
Vivaldi: "It does not protect privacy and it certainly is not beneficial to users"

https://www.ghacks.net/2021/04/14/vivaldi-says-no-to-googles-floc-as-well/

 

More browsers than Vivaldi don't trust Google's new move

Vivaldi, Brave, DuckDuckGo reject Google's FLoC ad tracking tech bleepingcomputers.com

Makers of Vivaldi and Brave web browsers have rejected Google's new privacy-preserving proposal called FLoC, which is meant to replace third-party tracking cookies across websites on browsers, including Chrome.

How do I know if my browser is included in a FLoC cohort?
You can check if your web browser has been selected to be a part of the FLoC trial experiment by following the instructions provided at EFF's AmIFloced.org.

 

Google Chrome just got a big upgrade that will speed up your browsing tomsguide.com | Today

HTTPS by default = faster load times
The shift to encrypted web connections by default is perhaps the most important change introduced in Chrome 90.

From now on, if a user types in a regular web address such as "foofoo.com" into the address bar, Chrome will first try to connect to that domain using the encrypted HTTPS protocol instead of the older, plaintext HTTP protocol. (The "S" in "HTTPS" stands for "secure.")

Google says this change will speed up loading times of websites (like Tom's Guide) that support HTTPS because before yesterday, HTTP was tried first and browsers needed to be redirected to the HTTPS protocol.

Here's an animated GIF that Google made to demonstrate how this works.

 

If you have AdGuard (and you totally should), FLoC is blocked as part of their Tracking Protection filter.

https://twitter.com/AdGuard/status/1381231076748722176

 

I can't imagine web browsing without it. When I have done it for very brief periods of time (i.e. on a clean install, or using someone's computer that doesn't have it,) I am always dumbfounded at how much absolute rubbish is on web pages that I am totally oblivious to. It's amazing how much trash it blocks that you never had a clue existed for the dumb-dumbs that are not using it.

 

WordPress Sees Google's Controversial FLoC Cookie Replacement As A Security Threat sweclockers.com | Monday, April 19, 2021

Google is on a mission to crumble the third-party cookie infrastructure that the web is largely based on, as it relates to lucrative targeted advertising efforts, and rebuild things with an initiative called FLoC, or Federated Learning of Cohorts. Not without controversy, Google's FLoC ad-tracking has drawn an antitrust probe. In addition, WordPress has proposed treating FLoC as a security threat....

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Edit.

Microsoft disables Google's FLoC tracking in Microsoft Edge, for now bleepingcomputer.com

Microsoft has disabled Google's controversial FLoC browser-based tracking feature in their Chromium-based Microsoft Edge browser.


WordPress becomes the latest company to oppose Google's FLoC neowin.com · 15 hours ago

WordPress joins the growing number of companies opposing Google's new FLoC system designed to replace cookies. WordPress says the system will lead to discrimination and has decided to disable it.

 

More floc stuff :O)

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/04/everybody-hates-floc-googles-tracking-plan-for-chrome-ads/

"The Verge also pinged Microsoft about its feelings, and got a long, meandering answer that I don't think boils down to a clear "yes" or "no" to FLoC:"
"We believe in a future where the web can provide people with privacy, transparency and control while also supporting responsible business models to create a vibrant, open and diverse ecosystem. Like Google, we support solutions that give users clear consent, and do not bypass consumer choice"

Oh, how nice