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http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/what-is-your-security-setup.835540/#post-11092004

 

What Is Google’s FLoC, and How Will It Track You Online? howtogeek.com




SECURITY, GOOGLE
GitHub disables Google FloC user tracking on its website bleepingcomputer.com
GitHub has announced rolling out a mysterious HTTP header on all GitHub Pages sites to block Google FLoC tracking.

Apple has been using "FLoC" techniques for a long time ...
Posted on April 28, 2021 by Günter Born

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For the placement of ads in its products, Apple has long been relying on a technology that is comparable to the highly controversial Google technology FLoC. This means that users are grouped into interest groups in order to be addressed via advertising.

If you break down the above statements, you learn that Apple categorizes its user base into segments in order to deliver advertising tailored to their interests. So that's basically the same as Google uses for FLoC.

 

Apple is worse than Google's tracking but they hide behind "Privacy" buzzword and collect all info in the name of better software experience and pushing new hardware with inferior software for example m1 iPad costs as much as high end laptop but comes only with iPadOS and for OS X experience you need to shell out extra for same CPU, better RAM/SSD.

 

Google's FLoC and the nightmare Europe with its GDPR
Posted on May 4, 2021 by Günter Born

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Google has started testing its controversial FLoC function in Google Chrome in the US as well. What is considered a new approach for Google is likely to result in a clash with the EU and the data protection officers of the countries who see FLoC on the same level as cookies.

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I hope the EU pushes Google's you-know-what in over this. I dislike the former, but I really dislike the latter.

 

The EU is probably the last entity on the plant capable of standing up to big tech. You can imagine big tech would rather it didn't exist.

 

The US government says hi.


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Fixed that for you.

 

Don't be naive. Without putting the post at excessive risk, the only people who could do something in the US are funded by big tech.

 

That was exactly my point.

 

Mozilla's browser updates are a joke.... you need 15 BETAs before you update one version of a browser? Only to release yet another buggy version with more telemetry and destroy the UI more with useless crap like snippets/highlights, telemetry, then next day, release a .01 version of that 15 version BETA

 

BTW Brave opposes Google's evil FLoC.

 

Dood!! Why are you running a beta? Just run the release and be worry free.

FWIW, you are correct that it does send info back to mozilla. This is found on their "Pre-Release" page:

[ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/#pre-release ]

However, to my knowledge run the Firefox release and you don't have to worry about things like that.

 

I thought odd-numbered Firefox builds were always beta, with even numbers being full releases.

 

I don't run BETA, just saying their updates are a joke, It's like this browser is in BETA since v4

 

How about ESR? If that doesn't work, perhaps, lynx?

 

firefox is still best .,.,.in STABLE channel works fine ""10 years i use FF or more"
sometimes only need "clean/fix profile" after update
,..,But it works really well in recent releases


///optional backup
here is way for full FF backup .)
C:\Users\ account name\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\
hidden folder -copy in EXPLORER ,.,BACKUP ??

backup contains all "customize/passwords/accounts",,. only "extensions" need reinstall "offline way from folder is possible"

 

As much as I don't want to use anything from Microsoft, and we have this old mindset that their browser sucks (hello Internet Explorer), that didn't change with the release of Windows 10 with the original Microsoft Edge. It was a crappy browser with dodgy sync functionality, incompatibility with some sites, crappy extensions that you had to download through the Microsoft Store but all that has changed and they are just improving on Edge Chromium at a very rapid pace that they have actually surpassed Google Chrome!

The new Edge Chromium is faster thanks to its built-in DNS which you can set easily with one click to Cloudflare or Google DNS or to a custom DNS without tinkering with your general network settings. It has a built-in shopping discount finder so you don't need to install any additional dodgy extension like Honey for example to get discounts and its sync functionality is slightly better than Google Chrome's as it remembers everything, even your settings.

I still use Google Chrome simply because it is the best for Android and I want the same bookmarks/passwords on my phone (I know Edge has a Beta Android App but it's not there yet) but I do use Edge Chromium for work and I do like it.

 

FF for Android works well in recent releases,., Try it
,.,older build was slow or broken

now works fine + ublock
still best

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now is released FF 89-0-x

 

@Spartan@HIDevolution Firefox may be rough, unpolished, and sometimes outright bad - but it's the best we've got, at least with privacy in mind. Don't know any other browser that does pretty much everything I want.

 

Regular Firefox for Android sadly lacks about:config. I'd recommend Fennec from F-Droid instead, which is about the same as Firefox Release, with about:config added. Using Firefox Nightly or Beta are viable alternatives, too.

 

you're right
it is only contained in the NIGHTLY build currently / ANDROID

 

What's the fastest Windows 10 web browser in 2021? zdnet.com | Sept 15, 2021
Lately, web browser makers have been working hard to improve their performance. So, which one is the fastest today?

 

Checked out this Speedometer 2.0 and got somewhat different results - Chrome and Edge indeed the fastest (at the expense of privacy I guess), but Brave ahead of Opera rather than last:
Chrome: 153
Edge: 135
Brave: 110
Opera: 92

 

I expect it will vary...




From the link...

SPEEDOMETER 2.0
Speedometer is a newish web browser benchmark. Created by Apple's WebKit team, it measures the responsiveness of JavaScript-based Web applications. To do this, it uses demo web applications to simulate user actions such as adding to-do items. Once more, higher scores are better on this test.
Once more, Chrome comes out comfortably on top with a score of 124. Only Edge came relatively close to Chrome by scoring 109.1. Dropping way back, Chrome and Edge were followed by Opera at 99.3, and Firefox at 90.3. Then, there's another considerable dropoff in performance to Vivaldi at 80.4 and Brave at 79.3.

 

It may vary a little (it actually estimates the margin of error, as you can see), but not to the point that it would affect the order unless it's very close. I ran 3 times for Brave and got 110, 110 and 108.

Checked Jetstream 2:
Chrome: 131
Opera: 123
Brave: 121

whereas the guy's results suggest Brave was way behind Opera. Long story short: yes, Chrome seems to be the fastest, but his Brave results are bogus.
Are the differences significant in practice for anyone? I doubt it, particularly given that the "complex website" benchmark Jetstream results are very close.

 

I can careless about the tippytop. If the browser is in the same conversation, then I dont care after that. Consistent functionality then takes priority.

Im sure it matters to brand loyalists or even the devs themselves for the obvious reasons that dont need explaining. I used to use WaterFox pretty much exclusively until for w/e reason it stopped loading NBR correctly for more than a day, gave Brave a try and so far seems to work well. WaterFox will always be in my back pocket though unless something changes.

 

Again from the linked article...

Although all of these browsers, except Firefox, are clone brothers, they do not have the same performance. Each vendor has changed the Chromium code to make them quite different from each other.

If you say Brave results is bogus... Then compare Chrome results bethween us. And between the results from the link. But it doesn't really matter much. You use what you prefer. And yeah, you won't see a huge difference in daily usage



JETSTEAM 2
First up was JetSteam 2.0, which is made up of 64 smaller tests. This JavaScript and WebAssembly benchmark suite focuses on advanced web applications. It rewards browsers that start up quickly, execute code quickly and run smoothly. Higher scores are better on this benchmark.

Chrome won this competition easily with a score of 114.132. Opera, somewhat to my surprise, came in second with 105.95. Behind it was Edge with 103.774. Next was Vivaldi with 100.437, with a small lead over Brave's 99.231. The real surprise, though, was Firefox with a dismal 73.208.

 

Not questioning your Chrome is the fastest, you can see the same in my testing. Just saying Brave is actually at around the same level as Opera, rather than way alower.Perhaps publishers dislike privacy-focused as-blocking browsers and don't mind spreading a bit of cheap FUD?

One of the reasons I ditched Chrome was its excessive power hogging leading to noticeably shorter battery life. It was also much more memory hungry than both Opera and Brave - neither of these factors are considered in ZDNets quick, perfunctory and flawed test article

 

Firefox and Chrome, both are great browsers for me.

 

Microsoft's Bing might soon replace Google as the default Firefox search engine neowin.com · 2 hours ago

According to its September SUMO announcement post, Mozilla has started testing Microsoft's Bing as the default search engine for Firefox on a very small number of installations on desktops.

 

As long as MS pays enough cash to keep Mozilla afloat it’s call good.
Either way I switch to DDG

 

How about Qwant or DuckDuckGo?

 

Mozilla gets paid for default search engine. Previously Google paid, now it seems MS turn has come.

 

Link to that info please.

 

Check under financing.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation

IIRC Google also pays other companies to make their search engine default i.e. Apple.

 

Long user of Firefox, still the best for me.

 

Still use a combo of firefox, waterfox and palemoon. If I don't want to be tracked while browsing by google or other I use one of those just for that purpose so all they have is what they get from using their email, set it to never remember history and delete all data upon closure etc

One question I have is that firefox is very slow to load certain sites lately, whereas waterfox which is based on it is normal fast speed, both up to date. Any ideas?

 

I'm sure bro @Mr. Fox looks forwards to this

Google Chrome is getting menus with rounded corners to match the style of Windows 11
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ou-mean-its-ugly.822800/page-10#post-11120984

 

Firefox now shows ads as sponsored address bar suggestions blepingcomputer.com | Oct 7, 2021

Mozilla is now showing ads in the form of sponsored Firefox contextual suggestions when U.S. users type in the URL address bar.

Mozilla says the feature was introduced with Firefox 92 in September to fund development and optimization.

"Beginning in Firefox version 92, you will also receive new, relevant suggestions from our trusted partners based on what you're searching for. No new data is collected, stored, or shared to make these new recommendations," Mozilla says.

Mozilla says it will only work with partners that meet Firefox's privacy standards, with the preferred partner for now being adMarketplace.

 

NoScript seems to be blocking any Firefox ads. At least I don't see any.

 

Hmm I didn't see in Linux version, might check FF on windows today.

 

It does say for the US users.
I also don't have any ads.

 

Firefox Now Sends Your Address Bar Keystrokes to Mozilla

 

^^^ FF using tons of different ip's, changing over time. Got most tracking options disabled, still FF tries everything and anything to connect to lots of servers. Some of course legit, like checking for updates.

Attached, ip ranges used by FF. Impression of any privacy is zero if letting it run without the firewall entries.

Cat and mouse work, ranges needs regular adjustments and cleanup. Blocking a range, next time launching FF it 'senses' something not right and jumps to a neighbour ip range and so forth and so forth, thus needs very 'broad' ranges for effective firewall blocking, with the problems that follows > need to use another browser now and then to access some sites.

 

Latest Chrome Update Thrashes Some Older SSDs For Dog Slow Performance hothardware.com

Some older PC users may have noticed a hit to their computer's performance recently. The cause may not be because they upgraded to Windows 11 (if you are fortunate enough for your PC to meet the requirements), but on legacy Windows 10 installations and due to older solid state drives in combination with a recent Google Chrome update.

As of right now, there is no clear reason as to why Chrome is causing this annihilation on some older SSDs. We will be on the lookout in the coming days for any information that may surface and will provide updates if any is found.

If you are experiencing the same issue while using Chrome with an older SSD, it may be worth checking to see if using another browser fixes your problem. It is never a bad idea to check how the performance of your PC is affected by any browser you use, especially following an update.

 

For a while now brave can't seem to operate two streams at once, just locks up 1 in favor fo the other.

Hasn't been a big issue but sometimes it's annoying, I should probably look into it lol

 

Used to be a Firefox user for a while back before Chrome was a thing. Started using Chrome instead just out of curiosity but then switched to it full time, especially after Mozilla became "evil". Also use IE/Edge (and Firefox) for work purposes and webdev testing.

 

Related to the quest of monitoring and blocking FF's endless phonehome activity, ref http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/best-internet-browser-2020-2021.832782/page-15#post-11122413

After getting the browser itself to behave, the extension\addon hidden activity needs attention. Evaluate which one is really needed, which to trust, which to ditch.

Simple enough by enabling one addon at the time while watching resulting connections. Great tcp utility: http://www.itsamples.com/tcp-monitor.html

Some addons are fine, some show intensive activity. Example, enabling Ghostery, the "powerful privacy extension", 5 connections immediately made.

 

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