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    Can you still upgrade 7 to 10 for free?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by kojack, Jun 30, 2019.

  1. Mr. Fox

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    Yes, Linux is free. How much space it needs depends on the distro and how many features it has. You can read on the system requirements many places.

    https://linuxmint.com/download.php

    I recommend trying it out with a bootable USB created from ISO prior to installing. It will run slower from USB. You won't have graphics acceleration and things like that running from USB, but you can get a good feel for whether or not you are going to like it.
     
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    Thanks for response. Would you suggest downloading linux on a chromebook though? The thing is i use chromebook to web browse and stream and download.
     
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    I don't see any reason not to. But, I would burn the ISO to bootable USB and run the live USB version first to see how the Chromebook handles it and to confirm that you like before installing it.
     
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    For point and clicking W7 just works even after a decade unlike Win 10 giving you BSOD and other bloatwares to force HW upgrades.
    Linux Mint or Zorin should put you at home!
     
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    I never experienced a bsod with windows 10 on a fully working machine (any pc I had my hands on). The only thing that ever gave me bsod was a laptop with broken drivers, which a clean install solved (until I reinstalled said drivers or windows did - which could be prevented). That said, it was the drivers that were faulty and not windows.
     
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    In fact even I didn't have too much BSODs. Its simply a remark I said because everyone is tired of hearing Win 10 is slow, laggy and forced update are a mess and what not!
     
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    I hear quite the opposite. What you think isn't what others think. Whom is everyone and what is that based on bad loaded drivers or actual Windows O/S fault?
     
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    Most of them are on HDD and low RAM which had W7/8.1 OEM version force upgraded to 10.
     
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    I have had little trouble getting Windows 10 running on older equipment i.e. laptops 8 yrs + even with low rated specs. The only laptop Dell circa 2007 that produces BSOD is the same laptop that produces BSOD running Windows Vista/7/8, and on because it has a defective memory slot #2. So I can only run it with one memory slot. It took me awhile to figure that one out because it would always pass memtest.
     
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    Microsoft pitches free help for Windows 7-to-Windows 10 upgraders.

    "With its FastTrack assistance program, the company will work with customers migrating from Windows 7, either Enterprise or Professional, or Windows 8.1 Enterprise or Professional, to Windows 10 Enterprise."

    The assistance comes free of charge with the purchase of at least 150 licenses for one of the eligible subscription plans or service. Not surprisingly, those subscriptions include Office 365 as well as Microsoft’s current emphasis, Microsoft 365 (M365) .

    tl;dr
    Free assistance if you purchase 150 licenses. lol.

    https://www.computerworld.com/artic...lp-for-windows-7-to-windows-10-upgraders.html
     
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    Thats another reason of why doing a clean install of Windows is always recommended. MS forcing people to upgrade to Windows 10 caused more problems than it solved.
     
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    Clean install doesn't help HDD perform smoothly and SSD is recommended.
     
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    Yes you definitely can. I just upgraded my Lenovo ThinkCentre Tiny desktop (basically a laptop in a metal box). I went from Windows 10 Home and used a Windows 7 Ultimate upgrade key that I purchased back in 2009 and it's made it's way to several PC's over the years. I assigned it to the ThinkCentre Tiny and it took it no problems.

    Question? Now that I have converted it from Windows 10 Home to Pro, did Secure Boot also get updated? That's the part i'm not sure about without a reinstall. Anyone have info on how Secure Boot UEFI handles Windows 10 upgrades?
     
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    Secure boot is simply a false sense of security. You see, any MSFT signed OS say Ubuntu can be run once signature is validated and shown to BIOS. Only advantage is lower POST time in Secure Boot mode and aside from that no real benefit.
    Secure Boot is BIOS dependent feature aka EFI BIOS manufactured post 2012.

    True but you also carry over the junk like registry problems, driver issues and so on doing the upgrade option, It can even slow down an SSD and a lot worse on an HDD.

    I do a manual cleanup of registry, drivers etc... It runs much better than OEM OS but takes a nose-dive when heavy IO is lauched or fired up, say custom ISO re-mastering etc..
     
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    Windows 7 > 10 is still an upgrade. Lots of updates and most notably the Linux subsystem. A whole lot easier than configuring a dual-boot
     
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    Can you still do the upgrade now? I have an old xps dell desktop from many years ago. It uses windows 7. Can i upgrade to windows 10? I haven't used this computer in a long time... been in closet.
     
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    yes
     
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    If i do this upgrade, will it have bloatware on it? Im curious how would the desktop computer look compared to it now>
     
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    Well that depends. You will probably have to do a clean install of windows 10, so well... like any other clean windows 10 install? There should be some youtube videos. There might be some driver issues though, for example our old pc could no longer install audio drivers when upgraded (after lots of research we managed to get it to work but it was a pain - the basic microsoft drivers did work but the sound was lower quality). Good luck if you go for it.
     
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    Just used my 7 Pro OEM sticker to reinstall 10 Pro onto my laptop, so confirmed as of 10.6.2019 to still work lol
     
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    Im using my old windows 7 desktop now. I do not use this desktop much but want to upgrade it to windows 10. I see on my sticker it says windows 10 home premium


    How do i update my desktop to windows 10?


    Also when I do this, is everything on my desktop going to be wiped out? I don't mind this and prefer this because I had clean installed windows 7 few times but never did it correctly because old files still stayed on c drive.
     
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    Do you need to have a usb flash drive to do this? If so, how much gb do you need on the flash drive?


    Or can you just upgrade from windows 7 home premium to windows 10 just through some clicking on the computer?
     
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    It's better to have a USB flash drive, this way you can reinstall the OS any time you want or need. The drive should be at least 8 GB in size.
     
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    Hi there. If i don't have a usb flash drive 8gb or higher, can i still upgrade windows 7 to 10 now? If so, how do i do it?


    Well i dont mind reinstalling the OS anytime i want or need, but can i do it right now without having a usb flash drive 8gb or bigger? I have a 4gb usb flash drive at the moment. I also have bigger ones but i don't want to use it or connect it because the windows 7 desktop im connecting to, im not sure if it has malware or not so i dont want to connect my good usb flash drives to it.


    Also when i upgrade now, will it delete everything off my computer? I prefer this actually since i want my desktop to be wiped new.
     
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    https://pureinfotech.com/upgrade-to-windows-10-from-windows-7/

    Before starting the upgrade process, it’s recommended that you uninstall any software, such as antivirus, security software, and old third-party applications that may prevent you from successfully upgrading to Windows 10.

    I myself would avoid an in-place upgrade. But thats me.
    Use another computer.
     
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    Your far past the upgrade free timeline it's no longer available to do that. You will have to find or buy Windows 10 from a online or local retailer now. I put Windows 10x64 Pro 1803 on a Dell 1525 but I did also upgrade this to a T8100 and 4gb Ram and so far all the Drivers from Vista works fine and Windows Updates just find and works. The age makes it slower but it runs and works for my needs. I did have to buy Windows 10 for this laptop but my Desktop was W7 and upgraded to W10 so I had now issues installing Windows 10 on it.
     
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    This works only if your BIOS support boot from USB. So look at the Dell site and update the BIOS to the latest before going Windows 10. If it doesn't then you need to create the Disc boot media instead.
     
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    I just performed a clean install of 7 Ultimate last week 10.10.19 & got the free upgrade to Win10 Pro (using an OEM 7 DVD on a mthrbrd that shipped with W8.1)

    Download Micro$oft Media Creation Tool & allow it to make the bootable 10 ISO on your 8Gb flash drive; then launch 10 setup from it when you're on W7 & online, ask it to upgrade (& keep your files) & allow PC 45-90 minutes to install 10 & that's that
     
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    I upgrade from Win7 to Win10 using the ISO method and NOT using an online/internet connection during Win10 setup - did the upgrade and after that was completed I then reconnect to the internet and Win10 activated freely.
     
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    A linux system I've used since 2010 on older toughbooks is named MX Linux and found here:

    https://mxlinux.org/

    Below are some system requirements for a midweight linux operating system named MX Linux

    Minimum•A CD/DVD drive (and BIOS capable of booting from that drive), or a live USB (and BIOS capable of booting from USB) •A modern i686 Intel or AMD processor •512 MB of RAM memory •5 GB free hard drive space •For use as a LiveUSB, 4 GB free.

    Recommended•A CD/DVD drive (and BIOS capable of booting from that drive), or a live USB (and BIOS capable of booting from USB) •A modern i686 Intel or AMD processor •2 GB of RAM memory or more •At least 20 GB free hard drive space •A 3D-capable video card for 3D desktop support
     
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    For what it's worth I upgraded a Windows 7 full retail key bought many years ago (and sort of abandoned, I bought 3 and have only used 2 for most of the last ten years) to windows 10 this summer and it was still good. Had to talk to Microsoft directly to get them to shift the account to hardware but they let it happen. I don't know the exact details/my girlfriend did the talking to them but it worked fine as the windows 10 message about upgrading went away afterwards using the key.

    The only strange behavior is that I can't seem to use Shut Up 10 or any other spy-blocking software shutting down all the telemetry garbage and it's run so bad on the hardware for undiagnosable reasons other than too much crap running in the background being alot of it, I literally reinstalled an older Win 7 again very recently. (although now I don't think I can activate it as it was used with a newer win 10 so i've got 30 days to figure out a workaround : P )
     
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    You can still upgrade to Windows 10 for free Betanews.com | Nov 30, 2019

    When Windows 10 first appeared, Microsoft made quite a fuss about that fact that while it was possible to upgrade for free, this was a time-limited offer. Many people rushed to upgrade because they felt the deadline was hanging over them like the sword of Damocles… but it seems that the deadline was not as pressing as Microsoft made out.

    In fact, you might be surprised to learn that more than five years after the launch of Windows 10, it is still possible to upgrade for free. So what's going on?

    Writing on Reddit, a self-proclaimed ex-Microsoft worker using the handle CokeRobot shed a little light on what (may) be going on:

    Well, I guess the cat's out of the bag...

    I work at Microsoft and have been since before the Windows 10 launch. That whole "free" upgrade for a year was fully marketing fluff. After the cut off happened, the direction given was that it requires a paid license HOWEVER, this was brought up by the brick and mortar stores that they were doing simple clock changes on customer devices during the upgrade challenge to get around it and then ultimately it was clear two years later that anything Windows 7 and up would go to 10 fully activated and still to this day.

    WDG didn't care pretty much at all because Terry Meyerson at the time cared more about his upgrade stats than license revenue as Windows isn't Microsoft's cash cow anymore. It's the same stance back in the day where Microsoft would allow Windows Updates on pirated copies of Windows 7 as the bigger picture was to thwart security threats based from those copies.

    You still can do this no problem, however careful, do an upgrade keeping everything as if you choose to yeet everything and start fresh, you lose your free upgrade. That old 7 license converts to a 10 digital license and from there you can clean install no problem. As for audits, this mainly is for volume licensing than anything. An SMB with 10-200 Windows 7 machines that were OEM licensed don't really matter. If you try this with 1,000 computers, iffy. At the end of the day, Microsoft had four years to close that loophole and never did so if worse came to worse, you could technically go through legal avenues as the EULA for 10 literally doesn't have a clause for this at all. You can't **** on someone taking advantage of an activation workaround when you as the manufacturer never closed it .

    It is impossible to say when -- or if -- Microsoft will place roadblocks in the way of this upgrade route, but it's working for now. It's worth bearing in mind, as WindowsLatest notes, what another Redditor says in response to CokeRobot: "a successful activation is not the same as a legal license to use that activated copy of Windows 10". Still... it's probably worth upgrading in the meantime.
     
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    I just upgraded my family's old Dell Inspiron 620 desktop PC that used to have Win7 Ultimate edition and installed Win10 Pro v1809 last week and it activated automatically with a digital license :D

    I don't see MS closing that W10 upgrade "loophole" anytime soon
     
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    You're right. Nah, probably not going to close that loophole. They'd be cutting their own throat if they did. They have ulterior motives and are willing to twist as many arms as they can to force people into downgrading from Windows 7 to Windoze 10. The longer it takes, the more evident their failure becomes. Since they were not successful pushing Windoze OS X filth on its own merits, even though it has been "free" for 4 1/2 years (LoL) they have stooped to Nazi behavior. So, now there will be many people that are so scared about Windows 7 "support" ending that they're going to jump on the bandwagon based on fear. The Redmond Retards' definition of success (playing the fear card) is proof that they exist as legends in their own minds. But, one thing is for damned sure... if it were something that the majority actually wanted, it wouldn't still be "free" because they're not that generous. If it were not still "free" there would be too many people that would still refuse to downgrade in spite of the end of official support. Some are doing it now only because they can still get it without having to pay for it. So, they're going to do it before they find themselves being forced into having to pay for an inferior product that they don't really want in the first place.
     
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    Windows 7 Is Dead, So Microsoft Suggests Upgrading To A Surface Windows 10 PC
    Windows 7 extended support ends tomorrow, as we're detailed on numerous occasions. For most people, the most obvious "fix" would be to upgrade to Windows 10, which just about anyone can do for free as long as you're running an authorized, genuine copy of Windows 7 or Windows 8.x. However, the folks over at Microsoft have another, more expensive proposition for those that are running an older Windows 7 PC.

    The company is encouraging businesses to just buy one of its Surface-branded computers Jokebooks
    . Going out and purchasing a brand new, fully functioning PC when a free upgrade to Windows 10 would suffice for most businesses seems like overkill, but Microsoft is trying to move hardware here, folks.

    Want this one? o_O
    [​IMG]
     
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    It is called a Surface because the quality and value are only on the surface (superficial).
     
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