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    Chrome OS

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by JWBlue, Dec 8, 2010.

  1. JWBlue

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    Has anyone tried it? How is it? I heard a system with Chrome OS can boot in a few seconds.
     
  2. weinter

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    It is a OS with only a browser...
    IMO how fast it boots doesn't matter...
    What it can do does.
    It needs to do more for less.
     
  3. Pirx

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    So can a system with Windows 7. Difference is, the Win7 system can run all sorts of software. The "Chrome OS" can run a browser. And then the browser can run stuff, yes, but me, I'd rather not rely on Big Brother (Google) to decide for me what software I can run, and monitor my every keystroke along the way. But that's just me...
     
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    It's so much more complicated than this. The browser can run stuff, the operating system runs stuff. The browser is now taking over functionality of the operating system. Whether you call it a browser or an operating system is inconsequential - it's just a name, a platform for running software. If you don't want Big Brother deciding what you can run, you might want to take a second look at what Microsoft is...
     
  5. stamar

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    chrome os will be the same as android. It will be based on unix/linux and can run a lot of stuff.

    Theres no real need to wait for it

    you can get linux to boot up in a few seconds.
     
  6. weinter

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    The problem with Chrome OS is that it is cloud base meaning it is more dependent on internet than ever.
     
  7. Hungry Man

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    People need to realize that Chrome OS IS ONLY FOR NETBOOKS. That means it's not for playing games... it's for going online, taking notes, and backing up work.

    If you've done your research you'll know that the chrome netbooks come with 3G and, of course, an offline mode. That means you can back up data almost anywhere AND when you're indoors/ blocked from wifi/3G you can still save to the hard drive and later sync up.

    People keep trying to compare these netbooks to laptops. This OS is not for anyone who doesn't have a netbook.
     
  8. weinter

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    3G means I have to pay for a additional subscription to those money grubbing unreliable ISP.
    Anyway if I were to buy it, it has to be
    1) Cheap
    2)I will wipe it and install either Windows 7 or Linux or Both on it. :D
     
  9. Hungry Man

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    Yes... dataplans will run you another 10-40 dollars a month depending. That's if you choose to buy it with one.

    1) It WILL be cheap... it'll be like buying a computer with linux, the OS will be FAR cheaper than windows/ apple OS's.
    2) That's pretty ridiculous. What would you gain from installing either of those? These are 100% aimed at computers with absolutely no ability to play games. So basically what else can you do with a computer? Play videos (you can do this with Chrome OS) and go online (OBVIOUSLY you can do this with Chrome OS)

    Please explain what you gain by installing W7 or Linux distros on a netbook...
     
  10. weinter

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    Can it run SDKs? IDLE C++\C# or Mono\ Python?
    Can it run Aircrack?
    Can it run Video Editors? Image Editors? Compatible Office Productivity Software?
    Sorry but not everyone uses computers for entertainment...
    I rather spend my free time away from computers.
     
  11. Hungry Man

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    Can it run SDKs? IDLE? I don't know, might not have been announced?

    Can it run Aircrack? You can't run aircrack on windows either... and I will assume that there's a VM app (or will be one) eventually for Chrome OS.

    Can it run Video editors? Yes. Image editors? Yes. Compatible Office Productivity Software? Yes. In fact Microsoft has already built Apps for Chrome OS OR you can use 3rd party apps that do the same thing OR you can use Google Docs.

    As I said... if you are buying a netbook I see no reason for you to be using it for anything other than what netbooks are marketed for. If you want to do anything fancy... you're probably not buying a netbook.

    edit: "I rather spend my free time away from computers." I don't know what this is referring to... how will Chrome OS stop you from going on a bike ride or hanging out with people? lol
     
  12. Pirx

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    Huh? You might want to take a close look yourself. Look at the price that people using Google's "free" browser pay, too.

    As for Microsoft, if there is anything they stand for, then it is to encourage people to run just about any software under the sun on Windows, and to give them a very significant amount of freedom rgearding customizing the OS itself. This is in stark contrast to companies like Apple, say...

    Obviously I cannot speak for anybody else, but as for myself, I am trying to stay as far away from Google stuff as I can.
     
  13. KimoT

    KimoT Are we not men?

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    It is an interesting OS, but it is not competing with Windows: it is an alternative to iOS and Android. It is cluod-heavy, but many apps will run locally and sync with the cloud storage when you are online. It should make for some interesting tablets and netbooks, but is not designed full-fledged PCs.
     
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    Verizon will provide 100MB of free data per month for two years.( Google partners with Verizon for free 3G data allowance with every Chrome OS netbook -- Engadget)

    Of course 100MB per month isn't enough for everyone, but it might be enough if paired with WiFi and/or heavy internet usage is done at home/work with a separate internet connection.
     
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    Im using Chorme brower, which I think is the "windows" verison of chorme os. I think its great...lots of "apps" downloaded etc...

    its great...
     
  16. weinter

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    Well my purchase has to have a purpose of doing work not a toy. The chrome OS suggest a toy.
    I don't think there are browser based Video Editors or Photo Editors.
    And of course I install Linux to get Aircrack...
     
  17. Hungry Man

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    I see no reason to stay away from google. You have the CHOICE to send them completely anonymous data... and you can simply uncheck a box and you no longer will. I personally leave it checked, no reason not to in my opinion. I have nothing to hide, and I want to help them improve their product. I agree with the rest of your post.

    It's not meant to compete with Windows. Windows just isn't really meant for netbooks in my opinion, and in google's as well. All Chrome OS is supposed to do is give you an operating system that is built 100% for netbooks, and it does that. No one has ever said it's for full-fledged PC's, they've said quite the opposite. It is in no way for desktops AT ALL, and not really for laptops either. Just netbooks.

    This is really excellent, thank you for providing that link. And 100MB is enough to sync info when you're not around wifi I suppose. That's all it's really for.
    Chrome OS is essentially Chrome browser, but you get some more features and it'll run faster because there are no background processes from Windows.
    Chome OS is absolutely not a toy... I have no idea what leads you to believe this... and yes there absolutely are browser based video and photo editors, as well as offline versions designed specifically for Chrome OS.
     
  18. KimoT

    KimoT Are we not men?

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    That's what I said in response to the complaints that Chrome does not do things that a laptop can do: it isn't built for that. For what it does do, it is closer competitor to Android and iOS, both of which are used to run low-spec devices for mostly internet apps. As a number of reviews have pointed out, it should be a boost to the netbook segment as it requires far less system resources than Windows 7 starter and other full OS's.
     
  19. MidnightSun

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    Chrome OS is an interesting platform, but I don't really see all that much value in it for many users, with the increasing prevalence of smartphones. From what I've read, there seems to be little that Chrome OS can do that say, an Android/iPhone/BlackBerry/W7Phone can't do.
     
  20. Hungry Man

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    Well that's an interesting point MidnightSun. I think the different between a smartphone and a netbook is really only one of convenience. You can see smartphonse increasing in power, with tablets and phones both getting dual cores and GPU's.

    Netbooks do provide more power and larger screens as well as easy-to-use keyboards. They are definitely much more compatible for a student for example. You wouldn't take class notes on your droid or blackberry, but you'd certainly take notes on a Chrome OS Netbook. That's what it's aimed at. It's not trying to everywhere at once, it's targeting people who use netbooks.

    And frankly for many users all they need is a netbook.
     
  21. McGrady

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    To provide some real insight on the matter since I have been using the CR-48 Google ChromeOS for the past few hours.

    Things I like:
    1. Boot up and waking up is super fast.
    2. Chrome was already my fav. browser, so the apps, extensions, themes, syncing, etc was very nice and fast to load on the notebook.
    3. Best netbook I have ever used.
    4. Looks clean, picture a mini black macbook with no stickers or logos
    5. Can see myself bringing this around with me since it is light and I love being connected to the web. Twitter and FB is my life.
    6. Simple to use.
    7. Love Guest Mode; good idea.
    8. No need to do tweaks like you do on Windows.


    Things I don't like:

    1. Going to take time to get used to since you have to use all WEBAPPS. Need my Dropbox, and maybe my music player.
    2. Weak/slow, but that is a given since it is only a netbook. Using intel's atom processer.
    3. 1 usb port only
    4. It's new, so not going to be much to write home about until more developers create better web apps, etc etc.
    5. Not used to this minimal functionality
     
  22. Cin'

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    Grat's on being one of the chosen :) Do you have any pics, would love to see an "owner pic" :eek:

    Cin..
     
  23. Hungry Man

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    I'm very jealous. I wish I'd gotten chosen, oh well.

    And that makes sense. Most of the cons seem to be hardware related. USB, slow/ weak (it's a single core so naturally it's a POS), and yeah it's always hard to switch =p

    Maybe I can get one on ebay or something =\
     
  24. Cin'

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    ^^I think they are still dispensing them. Who know's maybe one will arrive at your doorstep tomorrow! ;) :D


    Cin...
     
  25. Hungry Man

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    Who know's. I doubt it.
     
  26. Cin'

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    Well you never know. :) I signed up for it also, if it happens it happens, if not it's cool!

    I am finding myself using Chrome now (along with Opera), more than FF.


    Cin...
     
  27. JWBlue

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    I didn't realize the Chrome OS is for netbooks.

    I have zero interest in the OS now.
     
  28. rossmodel

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    I just don't understand the chrome OS, what is the point of releasing a OS when consumer still need to use another OS to run the computer?
     
  29. weinter

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    Kill the OS and save the hardware. :D
     
  30. McGrady

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    I will take pictures when I get home tonight in about 3 hours lol. :)
     
  31. Hungry Man

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    I don't understand what you're asking. Why do consumers need another OS to run the computer?

    As for the guy who has no interest... great... a load of students/ anyone who travels probably will.
     
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    Thin vs fat client all over again
     
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    Were you told that you were picked before receiving the netbook?
     
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    Does it really has any advantage if it is targetting netbook ?

    I just picked up an Acer Aspire One 721 for 230 which comes with 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium with 2G/250G. Now, how much cheaper it can be if it is not W7 but linux or chrome ?

    As for boot up speed, does it really matter ? My notebooks come back to life from sleep within 2 seconds, if it is hibernation that would take < 15 seconds on a HDD. Switch to a SSD, it would be even faster.
     
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    chrome web os
    na didn't tried it if i want i can download chrome browser :D
    i don't think i would waste my money on something like that unless im drunk :D
     
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    Cloud os = bye bye privacy

    Everything you do on those pc-s are sold out by google for anyone who pays them :p

    Google os = fail

    Just download chromium .. the original opensource one that google stealing and renaming :p
     
  38. Hungry Man

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    lol... people actually believe this

    this was a rumor that was purported years ago because of google's bot that goes around the internet. The news was reported as "google has bots that search the internet for your !" and then there was their whole dealing with China around the same time and it hurt their rep...

    If you look and see google DOES collect ANONYMOUS data. There was a lawsuit where the government was like "yo we want that data" and google was like "nah that'd give up peoples rights, we don't trust you" so really google's all for privacy and people have a huge misunderstanding of their situation.

    There's a very simple button you click that says "send google information" and you can toggle it on or off if you hav ea problem.

    cloud os = bye bye privacy? I guess you don't use email then... since that's cloud. Or dropbox... or anything that stores information on a server.

    As for google "stealing and renaming" they give full credit to chromium and no one would give a about chrome/chromium if it weren't for google lmao that goes double for android. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

    And chrome hasn't just renamed it and repackaged it... to say they've improved it is the understatement of the century. Their work on the open source V8 browser is what has pushed them so far ahead of the other browser.
     
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    ^^ sure what you say ;) just keep believing.

    Guess there was absolutely no reason for pgp email encryption and truecrypt/pgp/bitlocker.. hdd encryption :p
    0 reason for full os/hdd encryption under windows and linux.
    No reason for https/ssl/..
    We all like to open up and share everything with everyone .... we take our pc to the front door so everyone can check your data.
     
  40. Hungry Man

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    ... since when does chrome OS not come with security features? Including ssl...https and I assume hdd encryption.

    I think you need to do a little research.

    As I said, I assume you must not use any email system based on your beliefs, after all email is 100% cloud
     
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    One think is certain if Windows follows Google path i'll go Linux route.
     
  42. Hungry Man

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    I wouldn't worry too much about that. Windows is a computer aimed at a variety of users. It's meant for business use as well as personal use. That means it has to be big and it can't just chop off parts.

    You will see more cloud based programs running in windows 8, but that's to be expected. Cloud has been the biggest computer hype for a few years now, it's about time we've started using it.
     
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    IMO, this is one heck of a stupid OS.
     
  44. Hungry Man

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    The multibillion dollar international company disagrees =p

    It's perfect for standard netbooks.
     
  45. nu_D

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    And here I thought giant companies never make anything that's stupid and or flops. =p

    Perfect? In your opinion, and theirs, yes.

    We'll see... :)
     
  46. Hungry Man

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    Absolutely lol look at the Kin. Microsoft pulled it off the market because of the huge flop. But if you look at it simply it's very easy to understand.

    The average netbook has a limited use. They're targeted towards students/ people who travel. They have low end hardware, so no gaming and no intense programs. Netbooks are for taking notes, maybe watching videos, use as storage, and going online... chrome OS is designed to make all of those things the best they can be by concentrating only on those.

    It's like if you watched someone use a netbook for a year and whatever programs they used are kept and everything else is trashed, you'd be left with something similar to Chrome OS... minus cloud + other features of course.

    I think there's a lot of misinformation/ misunderstandings about it... which is why I keep flooding this topic lol
     
  47. nu_D

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    I understand completely. No worries there.
    I just don't see anyone picking up a netbook with Chrome over a netbook with Windows...unless there is a significant price difference.

    Odds are though, just like the first wave of netbooks with Linux, people will open their netbooks with Chrome and wonder where their start button is, then take it back to Best Buy and return it citing that it's broken. :)
     
  48. Hungry Man

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    There will be a significant price difference =p the OS will be free.

    The issue with Linux is that they don't market... look at what apple has done; they market like crazy and they're good at it. Google is a huge company with massive resources and they're very good at marketing.
     
  49. nu_D

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    Linux is free. And that price difference wasn't significant enough to offset the lack of Windows. I don't think it will be any different with Chrome. Besides, all the crap bundled with Windows helps offset the price of Windows anyway. If they sell Chrome netbooks for $50, then, they might have something there.

    You think a massive Linux ad campaign would change things? Not a chance.
    It's not about marketing in this scenario. It's about what people are used to. People want an OS. Not a web browser. At the end of the day, people want Windows. Google can market Chrome all they want. But when the consumer opens it up and doesn't find their taskbar and the programs they're used to having, they're going to send it back.

    Really, rinse and repeat with what happened with Linux netbooks.

    Anyway. I'm done with this...you keep going though, knock yourself out. :p
     
  50. Hungry Man

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    Linux is free, but it doesn't market. Ever see a commercial for linux? Ever see linux in the news giving away free laptops? There's no hype... no one knows what the hell linux is. Ask anyone what google is and they'll know it. There's a brand there.

    What people are used to is a browser. People know tabs, they know facebook, they know twitter... it's the most used application, especially for netbook users.

    I know lots of people who have never heard of linux, or who have heard of it but don't know anything about it at all... and within the last week almost all of them know about Chrome with quite a lot of detail. To me that's proof that google can get the name out there far far far better than linux.

    Look at android. Most people think android was built by google, that it's their OS. It's their OS because they went in, bought the team, and then started pumping out updates. Android was nothing until google came in. Same with Chromium to pretty much the same extent.

    Google takes an open source project that no one has heard of or cared about and they market it to hell and improve it and they get everyone using it. Chrome, Android, and now ChromeOS; it's all there.
     
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