How many processes at your startup?

I have 57 processes at idle and 12 of them are for McAfee.

Blah, big improvement from the 100's that I had before tweaking.

 

A 100 processes at startup!!!!!! What were you running?????

 

I don't really know actually...

Here's a pic of what I was running after I did only a little tweaking.

 

i have 70ish XD

 

I see so many things that could be uninstalled/disabled to get less...

 

Lol, if you read my previous post, you would see that I have only around 57 now.

 

lord ! 95 processes ??? look like time for nuke it then install fresh OS right off the bat.

Dg

 

My boot time's quite quick, so I'm happy.

 

Are you sure this is from a startup??

I see some processes that seem to be recently opened, but most of your processes can be easily disabled.

 

Even that seems a little excessive...

 

Here is mine 39 processes,30% RAM usage(2GB), Vista Home Premium

 

That's some high usage for 39 processes. o_o

Mines like 0-5% for 47 processes at startup. But I have 3gb ram.

My bootup is quicker now. I measure my boot up by how many green bars pass before loading. I got 6 bars! Specs in sig

 

You mean CPU usage. 0 RAM usage is impossible. Anything listed in Task Manager is accessing your memory.

 

oh lmfao. read his post wrong. ram usage runs around 27-30% for me. cpu usage is 0-5%. ty

 

No problem. I'm surprised I caught that. I'm usually drunk half the time on these forums anyways.

 

Mine has a very slow sart up time about 16-20 bars. I don't know why but when I used the boot defragger in the tweak forum it actually made my boot time longer

And oh yes you were reading my picture the stats in a wrong way

 

lol wtf? I have 78 processes? How the hell can I get rid of these things (well I know how [msconfig]) but yeah, why do I have 78?

vista ultimate x64

 

Well if you just leave things be it would really get that high

Before tweaking I have 70 processes

 

If you want to drastically cut that down, disable startup programs you dont' want/need to and also disable some services.
Look at http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/servicecfg.htm
and http://www.speedyvista.com/services.html

 

Please stop talking about the "number of processes". It is a completely idiotic measure of system performance, and has no bearing on anything. You could easily have 1 process that takes 3GB of RAM and 100% CPU, or you could have 100 processes that take 1MB RAM each and 0.01% CPU each.

Continuing to talk about it just encourages people to incorrectly think that counting them is some type of measure of something.

 

Ummm I think there will still be a hit on performance.

Since having too many processes may make all your other tasks act slower then measuring how many processes you have may be a reason for you to consider disabling some of them.

I think I will run a benchmark test where all my processes are on, I'll check for differences

 

Yes, please run a benchmark. Then you will see that the sheer number of processes has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING do do with performance, period.

No, having "too many processes" will not affect ANYTHING, because there is no realistic way to have "too many processes". If you were to write a program that made a million or so processes, you might see an issue, simply because you'd fill up the process table. A difference between 50, 100, or 200, will be completely irrelevant.

The ONLY THING that will affect performance is if each of those processes is doing something and using resources, but it only matters what they are doing and what resources they are using, which goes back to my original point, that simply COUNTING the number is USELESS. You must look at the RAM usage, CPU usage, etc... for each process to determine if it's going to affect the rest of the system.

 

It's still a good general benchmark of system performance.

 

No, it's a terrible measure of performance. The number of processes give absolutely no indication whatsoever about the performance of the system. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Zarro.

It is a completely useless metric.

 

I get around 7-8 bars loading Vista, I think.

 

Same here, I get around 7, but my CPU usage is incredibly high, jumping around from 0-50%.
EDIT: Nah, that's just when I click or open something.

 

Good thread mcGrady

 

Alright, here are my processes:



Anything I can end?

 

First of all, not using McAfee, and SiteAdvisor would help out not only performance wise but would also (probably) slash that number in half. In place of those, i recommend you use a free Antivirus like Avira Antivir, and practice safe browsing habits with Firefox. Also, not using iTunes, and instead, using something like Foobar2000, or Songbird would help out a lot too.

 

I dont believe its terrible, however generally it can be a quick/easy way to check things. For example, on average, people with more processes will generally take up more ram, and vice versa. Now while you are right in saying that what matters most is what the process is actually doing, isnt it logical for someone to want to remove the processes they dont use, to decrease the amount of resources they can use? For example, on average i run around 88 or so processes, so say i removed 25 that i dont need, isnt it reasonable to say that i would probably have better overall performance with less resource usage?

 

Trying not to hijack this thread, but what is the best anti-spyware program for free?

 

SUPERantispyware has always done the trick for me.

 

want something for free?
you will love this 2 threads:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=206289
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=190538

 

How did I know that someone would link to those?
I have memorized those two by heart. But obviously, they list many different anti-spyware programs. I was wondering which one is considered the best.

 

then discuss in some other places,
open a new thread or search the forum

 

I'm sure a little hijacking is fine. But anyway, I'd recommend Superantispyware, I've heard many good things about it but never tested it myself, and A-squared is very nice from what i saw during my usage. Having either of those combined with good 'ol Spybot Search&Destroy would be a good setup.

 

Is Spyware Doctor any good?

 

Not that i know of.

 

After taking the challenge from "orev"

There is quite an amazing turn of events

After running PCmark05 in
1. 70 processes at startup
2. 40 processes at startup

The results between the 2 configurations were almost the same actually the PCmark05 score were slightly higher(maybe something went wrong?)

looks like people do not really need to turn off excess processes.

Here are my results:
First Pic is at 70 processes
Second Pic is at 40 processes
(can someone also try to run at their max number of processes and their tweaked number of processes, I want to see your results)

 

Well, it works fine for me

I use Spyware Doctor Starter Edition 5.5

 

The problem is, the RAM usage for both is about the same. So no, you will not see a performance hit.

 

Well, I know that with my specific set of processes, when I thin down my number of startup processes, I do get a better start time.

 

Yes Start Up time was longer but after redoing a restart it became faster just likw ehrn I reduced the number of processes

 

Computer performance vary from user to user. Run all the benchmarks you want. I've noticed increased performance with a reduction of processes.

 

Glad to see some real numbers. It's always better to get the numbers than to speculate about them! ...

...unless of course you are seeing performance gains because of the placebo effect.

 

Exactly, but thats where you and i see differently than some of the other people in this thread; We generalize more processes with more ram usage, and so when the situation is such, we are correct. However, no matter how many processes are open, what matters is how much ram is actually being used as you and orev pointed out. If the amount of ram is approximately the same, then there will be no difference except for maybe startup times. So then in this instance, using the amount of process open solely by themselves with out connecting them to ram usage is a terrible way to attempt benchmarking.

 

dude you have no AV or FW?!?! Do you want a virus/hacker attack?

 

I'm sure it was just for benchmarking purposes.

 

34 processes.

 

19 processes at startup for me.


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