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    Legal Download from DigitalRiver: Windows 7 SP1, 13 languages

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by SL2, Aug 16, 2011.

  1. areyoutalkingtome

    areyoutalkingtome Notebook Enthusiast

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    Im having some trouble with this. I downloaded the Windows 7 Premium Home 64bit ISO from digital river. Ran the Windows 7 USB tool to burn to a USB flash drive and it constantly freezes at 6%.

    I also burned my own ISO but when I run the tool it says its not a valid ISO.
     
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    WOW...this is an awesome link!!! Microsoft should have this availible!!

    available sorry
     
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    Better to format the usb drive as FAT32 or NTFS for this (using Microsoft's tool)?
     
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    Use Microsoft's tool, it is rather straightforward and you can't go wrong with it for a Windows install. I'm pretty sure MS' tool doesn't allow you to choose the file system when you're using it.
     
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    Hello all,

    I downloaded Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit file X17-58997.iso. I was able to create a bootable USB drive with it. However, I am unable to wipe and re-install Windows on my Asus Zenbook UX31A. I press "Install Now" and then it goes ahead and tells me that the driver is missing on the CD/DVD media. I tried to cancel and then use another USB port but that didn't help. Same error message.

    I created the bootable disk using another Windows desktop. Not the Asus ultrabook under reinstall.

    Thanks in advance
     
  7. SL2

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    Usually I'd say try another USB port. but apparently there is only 2 and they are both USB3. Would there be any option in bios to turn on legacy mode or something for the USB?

    Problem is that the install media has no USB3 driver for your computer's chipset. If there is no compatibility mode or something in bios, you'd need to integrate correct drivers to the install disc.
     
  9. SL2

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    AFAIK that's not the case here. You need drivers for a USB 3.0 drive, not for the USB 3.0 connector itself since it's backwards compatible.

    Otherwise the OP in my link wouldn't be able to install at all. Sure, the use of USB 3.0 ports may still be the reason for the issues tho.
    At the same time he mentions that others have succeeded by simply adding the drivers to the drive (not even integrating).
     
  10. SL2

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    Updating BIOS may also be a good idea.
     
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    KLF NBR Super Modernator Super Moderator

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    Remember the times when WinXP needed raid drivers from a floppy? This isn't any different. The drives didn't needed the drivers, it was the controller chip.

    And yes the physical connector is backwards compatible but the chipset is not entirely. That's what the "drivers to the drive" mean ;) Just drivers for the chipset itself, to allow windows installation to properly communicate with the chipset->drive.

    I've encountered same error myself, altough I was using a usb-dvd drive on usb3 plug as the internal optical was replaced with a caddy. Issue was magically cured when I changed plug from usb3 to usb2 :) Installation will start and continues until it asks for drivers. It is really confusing, as one would think a driverless installation should not start at all...
     
  12. SL2

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    So how come the OP in my link doesn't need any drivers? :confused:
     
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    KLF NBR Super Modernator Super Moderator

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    A good question that I can't 100% answer unless I get my hands on similar laptop and do the install myself :p
    Unfortunately I mainly deal in Lenovos and repair Fujitsus so chances of getting my dirty hands on a brand new Asus are rather slim. But if I get one, I'll try it myself because I _need_ to have answers on these issues myself :)
     
  14. SL2

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    I just tried using an Intel USB 3.0 port on my Z77 desktop for installing W7 SP1, it worked perfectly. Just to be sure that there's no driver included in that release (which I highly doubted, but..), I also tried installing Windows XP, which also worked well.
    The HM76 and Z77 chipsets should be quite similar in this situation.

    Then I tried XP with an ASMedia USB 3.0 port and got a BSOD right when I was about to accept the EULA.. :D

    It can't really be compared to RAID drivers when installing XP because RAID doesn't have anything to be backwards compatible with, unlike SATA which can be used in legacy mode, and USB 3.0 ports that can be used with USB 2.0 drives.
    However, that is if the implementation is good. The ASMedia controller proved that it doesn't work as expected in reality.. and the older BIOS version for the UX31A is another example.

    Another obstacle is of course the USB drive itself.
     
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    I used the Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit to install the OS on a new 750GB drive I bought for my Acer laptop (was 320GB). It installed but there were no drivers for the network ports so I couldn't really do anything with the machine. Should I have gotten the drivers onto CD-ROM from the Acer support site before I installed the OS on the new drive so I could install those drivers on the fresh OS install and get my networking to work and my graphics to be right as well?
     
  16. Falco152

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    You can just download the drivers on a thumbstick (or some medium) and install them afterwards. (This is the easiest and quickest way to do it)

    Or integrate it into the install media.

    In practice, you should of gotten all the necessary stuff and create a checklist/procedure prior doing a clean install.

    Anyways, just post the machine you have and someone would get you a link to it to download.
     
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    Is there any reports of Windows 7 downloads from Digital River being infected with a virus? I made a windows 7 professional install disk from Digital River and it was infected with a Trojan Virus. The virus shut down my windows updates and boot up. I corrected the problem and thought to report the problem here.
     
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    I've been using those isos and downloading them quite a few times, the last being in early April and no virus whatsoever, the problem is likely from somewhere else on your end.
     
  19. steviejones133

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    I'd just like to add my two pennies.

    This is a great guide that worked perfectly for me. I recently acquired the "baby laptop" in my signature, obviously it did not ship/come with a Win OS disc and I haven't got a standalone Win 7 retail disc to hand. Wanting to do a clean install on my new little baby, I needed this guide to allow me to do so.

    My little baby came pre-installed with Win 7 HP 64bit so I grabbed the corresponding .iso from the links on the first post. M first download was not recognised as a valid .iso by the MS USB/DVD tool so I re-downloaded (IE10 instead of Chrome) and it downloaded the correct file size. I checked the SHA1 checksum with HashCalc and all was well second time around.

    I proceeded to use Microsoft's tool to create a bootable USB with the relevant .iso and it worked perfectly. I did all of this on my main machine (M18x) and used this machine to test out the USB. Booted from it via F12 and it installed Win 7 HP 64bit no problems - I entered the COA from the bottom of my "baby laptop" and installation completed with zero issues.

    I've watched this thread for a long time now - had it bookmarked for future use. First time I've tried it and all I can say is "thanks" to the OP. Really amazing thread and well deserved rep. just posted.

    I'll now make a factory recovery USB for my baby, blow away everything and re-install nice and clean without all the bloatware that it came pre-loaded with.

    Again, thanks a bunch, Mats - great info and much appreciated. :thumbsup:
     
  20. SL2

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    No.

    AFAIK, it is technically impossible for these files to have a virus infection as long as the SHA1 hash value of the downloaded .iso matches the corresponding value on Microsofts own site.
     
  21. SAiLO

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    You could always extract the iso and scan of you are paranoid.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
     
  22. Win7/64ISO

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    I have been trying to download the Win 7/64 ISO from Digital River and it just hangs at 12% or so, for hours w/o any progress. I have canceled the download and retried several times, but no go.

    I tried Firefox and Explorer, both the same deal. How long should it take to download?

    Any help appreciated, thanks.
     
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    Win7/.. There are some links here that may help especially if you are not in the USA Windows 7 Direct Download Links
    How long to download depands on many factors but the iso for 64 bit win 7 is about 3 GB, if you have a 3 Mb/s connection it will be about 3 hours
    When I downloaded recently it took about 2 hours (my connections is ~ 5 Mb/s)
     
  24. Win7/64ISO

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    I am in the USA. I have a 54Mbps connection. I even hooked up the Ethernet cable--100Mbps. I hear some say it took 15 minutes to download the ISO. As stated when I tried downloading it just hanged for hours at 10-12%. Maybe I should just buy a Win 7 CD and make a USB bootable flash drive for install.

    Win7/64ISO
     
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    ^^^ Personally I see no need to buy a DVD. Have you cleared the browser cache and restarted the download? For the speed you have that time seems correct. Do you use a download manager that allows resume? I personally do not but if you do try bypassing it. Lastly what browser are you using?
     
  26. TANWare

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    54 mb/s may be your wifi to the router but not the wan connection speed. The wan speed will determine the time, the Ethernet may not be faster unless you are using XP or lower where internal system issues can slow the connection by 50%. As stated clear the browsers cache and reboot. Hopefully that will allow the file to fully download, be sure to reboot so the connections are reset.
     
  27. Win7/64ISO

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    Thanks people. Yes I cleared the Firefox cache. I also downloaded "Flashgot" to try to speed up the download. Don't know if it helps with ISO downloads? I did restart the computer, which seemed to kick the download into gear a bit, but still slow.

    I downloaded a 2nd ISO link with the Flashgot, just to see if it would download quicker? But they both seem to be going at the same speed.

    The 1st download: X17-59186.iso was started at 2pm today, normal download. This one is at 390 MB right now.

    The 2nd download: X17-2481.iso, was started at 6:45pm today with Flashgot. This one is at 263 MB right now.

    They both seem to be hanging again, so maybe have to keep restarting to complete the download?

    I dropped my anti-virus for a bit to see if it would speed things up, but didn't appear to improve the download speed.

    Both of these downloads are for Win 7/64 bit. The numbers appear different here, but I will recheck the Digital River ISO links for verification. The 1st one above I know is for Win 7/64, they maybe both one of the same.

    Josea: What time are you referring to? The 15 minutes someone else mentioned or the all day download affair I am experiencing? Which doesn't seem to be normal for a download.

    TANWare: Where do I find the wan speed, router?

    If these 2 downloads are the same Win7/64, then I will probably delete one to maybe speed up the other download.

    Just updating here: I checked the 2nd download and it appears it is an older version [old], so I deleted it. The 1st download is referred to as a [re-fresh], which I guess means a newer version. The download is definitely hanging again, so I will do a restart again.

    Thanks for your help, Win7/64ISO
     
  28. TANWare

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    Your AV should be looking at the file only after full download is complete. Unless the AV uses up a lot of resources for another reason it should not slow you down. For files these sizes, especially where hang up issues exist, you should only do one file at a time.

    Clear everything and try again and see if it is hanging up at the same spot.......................
     
  29. Win7/64ISO

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    Thanks. Like I stated in my previous post, I did restart the download and the computer again, and again, and again, etc. I'm done with the ISO on my machine unless someone can say why it hangs and suggests a workaround for the hang time.

    How long does it take to install Win 7 from a DVD? As opposed to how long should it take to download the ISO? I probably could have already installed Win 7 if I had the disk, in the time I've used to try to get the ISO download completed. Oh well.
     
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    Win7 ... One easy way to test your Download and upload speed is to use this link: CenturyLink Speed Test The rates you quoted above (54 & 100) appear to be what Windows reports and are probably not accurate. Who is your ISP and are you aware of any resprictions they may impose? I use Verizon FIOS and have never had any issues like you have run into, I have downloaded quite a few files over 2 GB without interruption.
    I forgot to tell you make sure the download has SP1 integrated or you win 7 install will take somewhat longer. It is impossible to know how long it will take to install without knowing what hardware you have (Make, model, RAM, type of hard drive (SSD or HDD) ...
    The name of the iso I have is X17-58997 & it is 3.09 GB
     
  31. TANWare

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    Actually they are accurate for the LAN speed, they are not meant to be a measurement on the WAN speed...............
     
  32. Win7/64ISO

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    I read the below post from another site and I'm not exactly sure what the message of the below post is. I read the post as saying it is okay to download and use an ISO for personal use, but not to resell it.

    The below post also refers to "pirated software", but he doesn't specifically name the pirated sources he is referring to? If Digital River has a contract with Microsoft to distribute these downloads, then I don't see how these ISO's can be "pirated"? MSDN itself offers various ISO downloads, so not sure how anyone can say downloading an ISO is illegal?

    I don't know what he is referring to when he uses the words: WinPE or BartPE?

    Based on everything I have read, downloading an ISO from either source is legal. That Microsoft has an agreement with Digital River to distribute the various ISO's. To me it appears to be more of a convenience for the customers to purchase and download an immediate ISO image of the OS. Rather than order online and have to wait for the product to arrive through the mail. Or to try the MS OS for 30 days and decide if you like it before purchasing same.

    So how do you interpret what the below post is saying?

    Thanks, Win7/64ISO

    ==========================================================================

    Posted 03 March 2011 - 03:49 PM
    There are many sites that offer ISOs for Windows Installation discs, Recovery discs, WinPE, or BartPE bootable CD/DVDs. What most people do not know is that hosting, distributing, and downloading of pre-made bootable CDs using technology such as BartPE or WinPE is illegal due to the files that they contain being copyrighted to Microsoft and against their license agreements.

    This topic is not meant to be a debate on whether or not these should be allowed to be downloaded. I too agree that Microsoft does their users a disservice by not offering a free Windows Recovery Disc and have repeatedly reached out to contacts at Microsoft to try and push this through. The reality, though, is that no matter what our personal feeling is, the download and use of these types of media is not legal. Therefore, I will not allow the use or referral to these types of downloads at BleepingComputer.com. By referring people to these downloads and telling them to use them, we are effectively telling them to pirate copyrighted software without their knowledge. This is not behavior that I can condone at BleepingComputer.com.

    On the other hand, there is nothing wrong with using or telling others how to use WinPE or BartPE to generate these types of bootable CD/DVDs from their own Windows Installation Media. This is perfectly legal as long as you do not host and distribute the CD/DVDs that you have generated. In fact, we encourage everyone to create their own bootable recovery environments in the event that your computer becomes unbootable in order to further aid you in fixing such problems.

    So with this said, effective immediately, members are not allowed to refer other members to pre-made bootable CDs using licensed Microsoft technology or files, such as WinPE or BartPE . Furthermore, we do not allow our members to refer other members to ISOs of the Windows Installation Discs or Windows Recovery Consoles.

    ==========================================================================
     
  33. katalin_2003

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    The links in the OP are digitalriver links and the content is not hosted on NBR/TechTarget servers.
     
  34. Win7/64ISO

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    Katalin: I amended my post for clarification.

    I read the below post from another site and I'm not exactly sure what the message of the below post is. I read the post as saying it is okay to download and use an ISO for personal use, but not to resell it.

    The below post also refers to "pirated software", but he doesn't specifically name the pirated sources he is referring to? If Digital River has a contract with Microsoft to distribute these downloads, then I don't see how these ISO's can be "pirated"? MSDN itself offers various ISO downloads, so not sure how anyone can say downloading an ISO is illegal?

    I don't know what he is referring to when he uses the words: WinPE or BartPE?

    Based on everything I have read, downloading an ISO from either source is legal. That Microsoft has an agreement with Digital River to distribute the various ISO's. To me it appears to be more of a convenience for the customers to purchase and download an immediate ISO image of the OS. Rather than order online and have to wait for the product to arrive through the mail. Or to try the MS OS for 30 days and decide if you like it before purchasing same.

    So how do you interpret what the below post is saying?

    Thanks, Win7/64ISO
     
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    Don't mean to be redundant here, but someone is harping to me that its illegal to download an ISO from the Internet, and 2] if I am not a student then I can't download an ISO from Digital River [DR]. And if I do download an ISO from DR, I am violating MS policy agreements or something to that effect.

    So I read this thread an see many people who have downloaded the ISO and haven't read anyone having legal issues. So I'm trying to decipher if this person is blowing smoke or what?

    But should I presume everyone in this thread that downloaded an ISO from Digital River, is a student? And if you do download the Digital River ISO, where do you get a product key to activate the ISO? Alternatively, if you download the ISO from DR and go to MS to buy a key do they ask you questions where you got the ISO from, or are you a student, etc.?

    Thanks, just looking for answers.
     
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    My guess would be most people here already have keys that they purchased legally. Some of us received new computers without a windows 7 disk and Digital river simply is a way to get the media. I believe the title of this thread is self explanatory. If you have doubts about all of the posters here I would suggest Windows 7 Home Premium - Microsoft Store
     
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    Piggybacking on the Digital River servers may not be 100% Kosher, but the fact is that to use those, you already need a valid license. In the end, you're using the iso for a product that you already own legally.
     
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    JOSEA; My guess would be most people here already have keys that they purchased legally. Some of us received new computers without a windows 7 disk and Digital river simply is a way to get the media.

    R. What was your scenario, no OS disk, change or repair your OS, etc.?

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I believe the title of this thread is self explanatory.

    R. I believe it is too.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    If you have doubts about all of the posters here

    R. Not sure why you said that? My post was about someone/a person harping to me that it was illegal to download the ISO like my post says. I don't have any doubts about downloading an ISO, but a few people have indicated that it was illegal to do so. And I was looking for feedback from those that did download the ISO and if anyone had any legal issues with downloading and activating it? That's what my post is about.

    And my previous post was asking for an opinion on the post by the complaining party, got an opinion there?
     
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    Sorry if I misunderstood what you said. This moderators of this forum are very aware of legal issues and posts/threads have been deleted when there was any hint of blatant illegality. I am certain it is illegal to Download windows from certain file sharing sites, especially those that advoate "work arounds" for Windows activation. I am sure if one of our members ran into legal issues they would have posted.
     
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    My sons laptop hard drive died. we cant find the ISO disk I downloaded the windows 7 but its in winZip format will that still work with a new hard drive?
     
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    Why would he need that URL?
     
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    That has the refreshed Windows U images with a hotfix integrated.

    If the links in the OP have been updated, then the link I provided can be ignored.
     
  44. SL2

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    The OP links have been the refreshed ones since day one. ;) Your link goes to the exact same files.
     
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    Thanks for the verification. :thumbsup: I have been using that site for a long time. Old habits.
     
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    You have a point though, the OP needs some clarification.

    I will also have a look at the links as well, integrating IE9 is probably not very popular these days... :D


    Edit: Fixed
     
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    Hi all,

    I got the very same problem as the person quoted above. Only difference here is that it's a Toshiba Satellite C660-1WN laptop.

    Long story made short..., the laptop's original Fujitsu drive broke down as the following error message kept displaying all while Windows 7 Home Premium wouldn't boot up...

    "Reboot and select proper boot device or insert root media in selected boot device"

    The old hard drive wasn't even showing up in the BIOS so apparently this was the culprit. Therefore I bought a new hard drive today and installed it at the shop to see if it would work with a copy downloaded from this thread. To be more exact I got the Windows 7 Home Professional x64 which was burned as an ISO to a DVD large enough to record it as well as it had the ei.cfg file removed with the special tool.

    From the very first attempt the DVD booted into the Windows 7 install session. However when it finally got to the language selection etc. it just stopped claiming that it didn't have the right drivers for the install. In this case the error was in relation to the DVD's driver. When cancelling, another error warning about the hard drive lacking a driver would pop up subsequently.

    Now the technician hereafter tried with his own copy of Windows 7 that was stored on a USB to see if this would make a difference as well as to make sure that the problem wasn't the motherboard or similar (meanwhile the new drive would show up in the BIOS after install). This failed several times with the system not even booting into the Windows 7 install session.

    Finally the techinician would return with a Windows 7 DVD with SP1 included. This finally did the job. We could see that the driver issue was gone and the setup could be completed (he didn't do so because he would have charged me a bunch for it and I wasn't interested in paying it). In his opinion it was only due to the fact that the drivers needed were in the SP1 which my downloaded copy from this site apparently didn't have.

    However In the links of this thread it says clearly that the SP1 is included. Now we have to assume it is somehow not. At least not with the drivers needed that his version with SP1 contained. Else there wouldn't have been a different outcome.

    My question is now..., is there a possibility for an update were these drivers are included? Or could someone add a description of how to integrate the latest SP1 into the Windows 7 version with a manual as well as a download link to the newest and most recent updated SP1?

    I don't have a USB that large but I have two DVDs with the first being trash now. I would hate to waste the other one and then have to go out and buy some more.

    So is there anybody able to do the above or shed some more light on a solution?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Hi josea,

    and thanks for your reply and the nice welcome.

    I didn't verify the sha-1 value on the Windows 7 Professional x64 file I downloaded. I have to admit that I am somewhat into the sha-1 thingy but have never paid too much interest to it. As I understand from the link you provided, it is used to compare the downloaded file with a database xml file or similar to see if it's integrity is complete and that the transfer was correct, containing all the downloaded information without errors. That far I can follow.

    However I got a few questions. When I downloaded Windows it took me a couple of hours or even more. As I had to remove the ei.cfg file to be able to have the choice to install multiple Windows 7 versions I first made a copy on the other laptop to which I had downloaded it. I did so by copy/pasting the file to the desktop where I also had downloaded the original Windows 7 file to. I hope this type of procedure wouldn't be responsible for the creation of sha-1 errors or data transfer issues, would it???

    Another question I have is related to the tool I am supposed to use for the verification of those values. The file downloaded is Windows 7 but the laptop I downloaded it to is running Windows 8. Now if I understand this correct the tool will do the verification based on a database. But where is this database or file in this matter? If it's supposed to be on the laptop itself it won't have the Windows 7 xml file to compare to I assume. I am somewhat in doubt about this so I might have misunderstood something. Maybe it's done over the internet by one of Microsoft's servers but it would be great if someone could shed some light on this topic as well.

    Meanwhile I'll be on the lookout for your answer.

    Most appreciated. ;)
     
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    Anybody on the above, please? :hi2:

    I don't want to be a pain but I am a bit under time-pressure here and it would be nice if these questions could be answered so I can get this done. I just don't know where else this could have gone wrong but what I already mentioned above.

    I can see that others are having the exact same problem.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/win...required-dvd-drive-device-driver-missing.html

    Maybe it's easier to do this with a USB drive large enough to hold the files?

    Thanks for your responses.
     
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