Microlags Fix

It's been a while since they released a new driver. I hope the next driver fixes this annoying issue.

 

Did you notice this strange thing? After couple of days installing the new driver from green team 390.65, older games actually shoots up GPU temps to 75C and on newer Dx12 games like Hitman it tops out at 70C.

 

Not for me, temps are normal.

@Phoenix It's not intel related it's NVIDIA related. People with Enduro don't have this problem -_-

 

Yes that's what I meant, I hope nVIDIA pushes a new driver soon that fixes this.

 

@Vasudev Do you have an optimus system around running on the latest windows 10 FCU without any issues? If so could you tell me what driver you're running on?

 

Never upgraded to FUC edition. I'm trying Insider release of RS4 in a VM.

 

True about that... and about RS4 is going to have more Microsoft spy sh*t but a smoother or an optimized ones and going to be harder to stop this crap because Microsoft main goal is to be more like ChromeOS which means more internet dependent...
Well... just to point out... FCU does something weird without you noticing.. for example when you play any video or audio they change the SPP automatically to 0 [Wish means maximum performance] and they mostly ignore any settings you put on Windows Power Management, after you finish they get back to whatever SPP you have put under Windows Power Management on ''Processor energy performance preference policy''

I mean like.. I think Microsoft went crazy for this kind of behavior.. making your CPU run at maximum speed for just hearing an audio or video is just wasting your CPU hard work for a simple task that doesn't deserve to be running your CPU at maximum speed. I wonder what will happen when gaming..or doing anything else... I expect unpredictable behavior [example.. random lags]

I can provide some pictures if you want.. it is not on my laptop anyway so it will take time to provide you some pictures.. but I saw that when it was 2 of my friends laptop (1 just brought a new laptop with FCU Windows 10 & other one he upgraded his windows to FCU and I was optimizing both of the laptop and removing windows bloats, etc..) , I expect anyone who got FCU can reproduce this behavior and see it by your self.

I know that maybe I said it before on other posts but I will say it again here.. I'm a control freak so I don't like anything happens or done behind my back so my own laptop runs fully according to my rule, to my interest, to my command.

My own quote:- If you know it... you control it , If you don't know what is happening... then how you gonna control it... right?

 

Micro$haft wanna be sure their own low powered Surface trash is able to run it. The OS is more and more designed for low end. And soon we will see more of Soldered phone processors in notebooks. They have to prepare the OS for what’s coming!!

 

You know this is so hilarious, This is caused by NVIDIA, Intel and Microsoft, there seems to be a conflict.

And who is the one attempting to fix this?

INTEL, The same company that has it's hand full of it's biggest disaster yet, namely meltodwn + spectre, actually heard our outcries and is attempting to fix this, while microsoft and NVIDIA blame each other and do nothing. Intel actually reached out to NVIDIA and wanted to work something out for us.

Big props to intel for this.

 

Do you have proof that Intel actually working on a fix that is entirely Nvidia's fault.

 

Intel:

NVIDIA:

Also Nvidia has stated that it has something to do with MSHybrid and some kind of issue. Meanwhile intel trying to fix this bug caused by while being concerned about meltdown and Spectre.

I wonder why pascal is mostly affected by this and very few maxwell cards. While kepler and such run absolutely fine.

 

Yeah exactly like I said in older post, tweaking MS Hybrid profile will force iGPU.

 

It won't work because it still turns on for 0.5 seconds regardless. The fact that most maxwell cards, all kepler and earlier cards are not affected and almost all pascal cards are affected shows that NVIDIA has done something.

I tried to tinker with MSHyrbid myself, never made it working properly. I reduced the lag a bit but nothing more. Meanwhile friend of mine running newest FCU and GTX 970M doens't have the issue.

 

I think this might be some sort of optimus + MSHyrbid conflict and now Intel is trying to supress optimus somehow. Is only my theory, so don't think it's facts.

 

Who said Maxwell and old GPUs don't have issues? I have it but I forced iGPU on battery mode otherwise there's momentary stutters. Its good actually Intel is providing a fix that's been unresolved for a year.
AMD GPU on a notebook doesn't have this issue. I saw issues on nvidia GPUs every time.

 

They can't because those profiles are embedded in nvidia driver profiles to switch between IGPU and dGPU.

 

Read more closely. I said most maxwell cards. I've seen very few cases where maxwell cards would have the same issue, never seen any kepler cards tho. There are very few examples of pascal working flawlessly, this only happened for the GTX 1050 series tho.

Maybe you got any idea what the GTX 1050 does different than the higher models?

if you go to this thread a guy posted an example of a GTX 1050 notebook that didn't have this issue:
https://communities.intel.com/thread/119093?start=135&tstart=0

 

I configured my cousin's HP Omen 15 with 7700HQ and 1050 which stuttered like hell and barely usable. I used DDU to clean them up and tweaked it like the settings provided to you. One more thing I noticed that temp sensor is disabled for GTX 1050 and I was able to read only Core clocks and Memory freq. Afterwards, it worked flawlessly.

 

What settings did you exacly change. I need it as accurate as possible and see if it does anything for me.

 

I used intel 4771 driver along with nvidia 381.xx series driver with following settings, do note I haven't changed the MS Hybrid settings because it was missing in that driver and only present when I updated to 388.xx & above.

• Nvidia shader cache=off
• physx=cpu
• power mgmt mode=adaptive
• In Intel I changed Color range or something to Full Range 0-255
• Put in Balanced mode on AC and Max battery life on battery mode.

 

What card?
On my GTX 1060, this didn't work at all.

 

940mx,965m,970m,980m,1050/1050Ti.

 

Microsoft did it again

 

Yup. Leave to them to screw things up... something we can always count on.

But, the question I have now is, what are you referring to? What did they do again?

 

The optimus bug was almost completely fixed with the Creators Update, but then came the Fall Creators Upadate and it is back in full force. Not that you care about optimus....bugged or not.

 

@Danishblunt

did you try this:

Delete the below 2 keys then reboot:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\Background\shellex\ContextMenuHandlers\igfxcui
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\Background\shellex\ContextMenuHandlers\igfxDTCM

 

Nvi reps and fellow members suggested those tweaks to Dan but in vain. He posted at Intel gpu driver forums and they said initial lab tested found the root cause and update will be shipped a little late. Dan requested a beta driver to test which I am yet to speculate if it fixes Optimus prime issues.

 

It only fixes the rightclicking on desktop. Intel will ship an update to fix this very issue.

 

Intel Graphics Driver v23.20.16.4982

 

Only took them me + other spamming their forums for 4 months xD

 

I hear j00

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Fixed it for me on 980M and allows better display OC. Hahaa. From 60Hz to 75Hz. Coupled with Fake Gsync, Gsync is wonderful.

 

Fake gsync on a notebook with intel on the screen? wut?

 

Turn on adaptive screen refresh in nvi inspector.

 

And that actually works? Because if it does, I'm actually gonna roll on the floor laughing.

 

Good. Be sure to send me some photos of you rolling on the floor if it works.

 

It doesn't. Because all it does is turn vsync on or off when your frames are under or the freshrate of your screen.

 

try it out. I get no lag until the fps dips below 20s. With Display OC'ed to 75Hz. FPS hovers between 45-75 w/o any dips.