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    Opera 9.5 ? out now

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Gintoki, Jun 12, 2008.

  1. nandrias

    nandrias Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well FF3 speed dial is indeed quit nice too... Took the wrong add-on one at the first time. ;)

    Now it is difficult to choose between FF3 and Opera, but the problem with opera is that it has serious problems with some sites.
     
  2. qhn

    qhn Notebook User

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    u can try to:
    . mask the browser (O) identification as Firefox, or
    . identify the browser (O) identification as Firefox
    . both of these flags can be accessed from Tools->Quick References (F12)->Edit Site Preference->Network Tab
    . or back to O9.27

    then try again

    cheers ...
     
  3. nandrias

    nandrias Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the tip, but it seems to be a Adobe Flash issue because I am not able to click e.g. on pages with a Live Ticker...
     
  4. qhn

    qhn Notebook User

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    got a link for me to try?

    if it works before under 9.27, then it is likely that there is a masking to trick it, so far the success rate is about 85-90%, good enough to be used as a day-to-day browser.

    O 9.5 has done lots of these modifications, FAQ is just not up to speed yet - so, there is always a work around

    cheers ...
     
  5. McGrady

    McGrady Notebook Virtuoso

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    I have Opera on my desktop and it works fine. However I just DL'ed it on my laptop and everytime I load it and try to go to any website, its blank...anyone know how to fix this?
     
  6. qhn

    qhn Notebook User

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    try clearing ur cache, under tools->delete private areas, and then restart the browser

    cheers ...
     
  7. crash

    crash NBR Assassin

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    I haven't tried Opera since 9.27 but I might give 9.5 a whirl. I'll post my thoughts on it here if I decide to try it.
     
  8. Gintoki

    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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    I just tried out Opera 9.5 and i have to say I'm probably never going to use Opera and enjoy it. The new GUI is pretty ridiculous to me, it wastes a lot of screen real estate for no good reason, when switching tabs it felt sluggish (okay, so it was only 1 second, still very slow compared to Firefox's split second) it crashed my GUI (it became un-responsive and i had to restart my computer), it also doesn't feel like an extension of my system (like with Firefox's new OS based integration themes) it just felt like a nice big 'ol brick for a browser. I honestly don't care about memory usage so this browser is useless to me. For anyone who feels i am bashing Opera this is just my personal opinion/experience so don't turn this into a flame war.
     
  9. eleron911

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    Yea, I feel the same way too, way too much usage for tabs.
    I want them in separate rows dammit, cannot read which tab is which.
    Also, I want an autocomplete feature grrrr.
     
  10. Silas Awaketh

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    Autocomplete, how?
     
  11. INEEDMONEY

    INEEDMONEY Homicidal Teddy Bear

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    You can put tabs on seperate rows in FF?

    I can't tell a difference in the speed of switching between tabs in FF and Opera...

    The lack of an autocomplete feature really bothers me too (this is my biggest issue) grr....

    Screen real estate...yeah you have a lil less in Opera. I think the difference is a lil less than the height of the "post quick reply" button. If I zoom out to 95% its about the same amount
     
  12. ttol

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    Arg, what were they thinking with the new theme? Ok, Opera looked like something from the 80s but now it's almost unusable due to the tiny close tab button.. I also keep hitting the stupid new tab button when I'm trying to close a tab because that's where all other browsers (and Opera used to) have close tab button..
     
  13. Kdawgca

    Kdawgca rotaredoM repudrepuS RBN

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    Why don't you use the keyboard shortcut(Ctrl+W or Crtl+F4) to close the tab? I like how Opera doesnt close the window when you only have one tab/page open and hit Ctrl+W...

    Other keyboard shortcuts
     
  14. ttol

    ttol Notebook Enthusiast

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    yeah, ctrl-w and mouse gestures is what I usually use but I still use the close/new tab buttons enough to be annoyed by the change.
     
  15. qhn

    qhn Notebook User

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    u can install the 9.2x skin from here
    http://my.opera.com/community/customize/comments.dml?id=8085

    watch out for:
    . the site might not be accessible, rumor was that Opera blocked this out to force the use of the new skin. I was lucky to get it
    . if that happens, scroll down some posts, there will be other links

    cheers ...
     
  16. Gintoki

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    I'm guessing that's an addon for Firefox. He may mean spell check.
    Yes, using an addon. ;)
     
  17. qhn

    qhn Notebook User

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    well it was important enough for the O devs to even go to great length to "fake" it
    http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2008/04/01/acid-3-opera-first-to-106

    and quoting "....Opera's Chief Web Opener David Storey, tells us he is thrilled that the race for points has broken the psychological barrier of 100/100, crossing his fingers that even imaginary numbers might be within the reach of Opera and WebKit developers now fighting for the lead in Web standards compliance." ...

    http://webkit.org/blog/173/webkit-achieves-acid3-100100-in-public-build/

    and this was real, no joke ... wondering if O devs were/are really giving a "flying ****"

    cheers ...
     
  18. qhn

    qhn Notebook User

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    a good link to check if one has any issues that can be circumvented.

    O devs are active in this forum and would answer direct, so one can hear it straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak

    http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=26

    cheers ...
     
  19. eleron911

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    As in when I start typing an address, and used it before, it gives me the long version so that I don`t have to type it all
    Spellcheck would be cool too now that you mentioned it..
     
  20. qhn

    qhn Notebook User

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    r u speaking about navigation addressing? then this should work correctly. If not, u need to clear out private data again and restart the browser. There is a "pet"-bug report about this. I say "pet"-bug because it is not being recognised by O devs as bug, but as an issue with user's environment (i m not in the same agreement as them, but i dont code)

    try this, might work with o9.5
    http://opera.gt500.org/ospell/

    cheers ...
     
  21. Silas Awaketh

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    ROFL! :D Notice the date this was posted on, qhn? :D
     
  22. Silas Awaketh

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    It works for me. :confused:

    And there is a spell check plugin for Opera. Want me to link you to it?
     
  23. qhn

    qhn Notebook User

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    sure, and i personally feel that O devs r still treating every day as April's fool.
    :rolleyes:

    cheers ....
     
  24. Silas Awaketh

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    Is this what you mean?

    [​IMG]



    P.S - Right now, I'm using O9.27 on my PC (and O9.50 on my notebook).
     
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  25. Silas Awaketh

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    But I think you said it wasn't a joke! :rolleyes:




    It is like arguing with a Mac fanboy about his "unbiased" review of a Windows based PC here!
     
  26. qhn

    qhn Notebook User

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    well, simple mind, i believe very much what O-devs tell me, trying to become a nice fanboy ;)

    did i missed something here?
    is Opera not competing with other browsers ON a Mac platform as well?

    cheers ...
     
  27. Silas Awaketh

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    What? :confused: I gave an analogy!
     
  28. eleron911

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    Thanks for the spellcheck thing, the other one doesn't work :)
    Sure.
    Yea,that is not available for me for some reason, nor when I google something does the "autocomplete" thing kick in, if it ever was an option.
     
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  29. Silas Awaketh

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    Click here for spell checking in Opera.
     
  30. Silas Awaketh

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    Go ToolsAppearancesPanels tab and check Windows, and press Ok.

    Next go to the left panel and select Windows

    Now look at that, all your tabs a nicely displayed on the left. This menu even keeps track of other windows and its tabs as well.
     
  31. Tranquility

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    Tools > Appearance > Skins. Select "Windows Native". It should use whatever you have Windows using.
     
  32. Tranquility

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    Tools > Appearance > Toolbars > Wrapping.

    Select tab bar by clicking on it, set "Wrapping" to "Wrap to multiple lines." It's set to "no wrapping" by default.
     
  33. kanehi

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    I like the new version. It can play CNET's video correctly now. Love the black theme. And it does seem like it loads pages faster.
     
  34. Silas Awaketh

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    A neat Opera trick -

    If you scroll down with Space (the space bar button), when you reach the bottom of the page, Opera will automatically go to the next page.

    Like, if you're reading a thread on some forum, or surfing through Google search, and you scroll down with Space Bar, when Opera reaches the end of the page and you press the Space Bar again, it will go to the next page (like from Page 1 to Page 2).

    Try it!
     
  35. paper_wastage

    paper_wastage Beat this 7x7x7 Cube

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    i have been using Opera since 2005 when they went free, v8.5
    i know that a lot of websites dont exactly work correctly in Opera, but they've improved on them, either thru a customized user.js, or a new update

    i feel that Opera's faster, smaller footprint, more features built-in(the wonderful mouse gestures, speed dial, bittorrent/download manager, notes panel, trashcan, restores tab history no matter what happens[comp BSOD/power outage], page zoom(been out a long time b/f FF/IE), full-keyboard mode available(when my mouse's battery goes out and i need to recharge)....)

    true that Opera doesnt have a lot of extensions(this is FF's ballpark), but Opera runs out of the box, on any (slow or fast) machine

    PS> if u want a secure portable browser, check Opera Portable, its a 5mb executable of the whole Opera browser, deletes all traces of itself from the system when closed...
     
  36. Vostro Guy

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    i gave it a try. seems pretty fast. didnt find many things wrong with it. i dont like the final look they went with, pretty ugly IMO. the way it looked during the beta was much better. i know you can change skins etc.. just cant see why they would use that as the final.
     
  37. qhn

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    tested again under vista, and xp - it worked for me.

    Only suggestion left is to remove (clear it out good) and reinstall O9.5 again and see

    cheers ...
     
  38. qhn

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    if i remember correctly, Safari (Mac for sure) has this long ago; and it works for IE6 as well. I cannot confirm with IE7, since i have IE8beta sitting here, the emulation to IE7 is not a real check.

    Side (personal) notes:
    . whilst it is cool and neat, it takes quite a resource hit on some systems due to "pages preloading"
    . if the next page happens to have loads of pics and forms, it would many times hang or crash - confirmed this in Safari Mac. Trick is that one must always set the cookies readily to be accepted - defeating the purpose of privacy, in many cases

    cheers ...
     
  39. Silas Awaketh

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    I don't know about Safari having it or not, but it has been working perfectly fine for me ever since I got to know about it. And I don't think it preloads a page. :confused: It's just like a Mouse Gesture, sort of, maybe a Keyboard Gesture, for Fast Forward.
     
  40. Gintoki

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    I saw that, but I'm not using Windows. ;)
     
  41. eleron911

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    That's a nice touch, but as I said,27 tabs, sometimes over 30 and they don't all fit even this way.

    Is there any way to make them into separate rows,like 15tabs a row or something?

    And thanks for the spell check.
     
  42. Silas Awaketh

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    This doesn't work?
     
  43. eleron911

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    God damn, that was the one!
    Thanks dude, you made my day.
    Although now I have like 5 rows of tabs :D
     
  44. Silas Awaketh

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    Silas - Making days since December 23, 1985! :D
     
  45. eleron911

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    Lol.
    After 6000 posts,you'd think I would know how to make the tabs into rows :eek:
     
  46. Gintoki

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    Nope, but i do expect you to know how to post. ;)
     
  47. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Hmm, now where did I go wrong with posting? :p
     
  48. Rodster

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    Wow I really like the look and feel of Opera 9.5 and it's come a long way. :yes:

    I love the panels on the left side and the very modern and clean look of the browser as well as Speed Dial which is my favorite. So what's still missing? They need to allow you to put bookmarks on the Toolbar like Firefox. Scrolling thru to find your way to the link you want is an uncessary chore and a pain in the tush. The browser still isn't as intuitive as Firefox as you have to hunt and peck to find what you're looking for.

    Still no spell check. :(

    It's a very fas browser even in Vista.

    p.s. It also handles annoying pop-ups better than Firefox so that's another plus.
     
  49. Silas Awaketh

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    Like this? :D

    [​IMG]
     
  50. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    Yes like that. :yes: How do you get Opera like that? I tried everything I could think of.

    eidt: I think I got it. I added it to the Personal Bar then enabled it in the Appearance menu. :)
     
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