Raise your hand if your getting really sick and tired of Windows Vista!

Its all based on perception man. I have a college who disses Vista to high heaven but has never actually used it himself. His basis is that general consensus is that it is bad and even Mac has ads bashing it.

But, they'd never think to question if Vista is so bad, then why is it the most marketed thing you can install with a Mac on Bootcamp?

Nevermind people man, as smart as they think they are, the majority are just going to follow social proof. Know it and use it to your advantage.

 

i like how people say "it's my pc, i should be able to do what ever i want without windows preventing it" and then look at their pc, filled with vire, spyware, etc.

and i like how those people come running to me "it doesn't work right, fix it" and they ing messed with windows dlls.

windows prevents direct access to the system so people can not do it BY ACCIDENT. if you want to do it without accident, you have to say "YES I REALLY WANT TO" because the os knows, normally what you do is just PLAIN STUPID.

and if you ever thought you're the only one using your system, then how exactly did the virii and all got on your system? maybe because you don't have exact control?

people want an os to work. to do so, it should as well be able to save itself from harm. harm that users do to their systems and then cry because it doesn't work.

i told my mom "if such a window pops up (uac)", press cancel. her system works since one and a half year with zero problems, and she's a total noob messing around. with xp, she wouldn't be that save. i don't know any noob which doesn't mess up the system all half year

 

It says a lot, indeed.
Win7 is not yet forced on laptops in stores.
It is downloaded and installed only by those who really want to try it (mostly M$ fanboys).

No wonder "everyone loves it".

 

That everyone also encompasses 'haters', ive seen a lot of Mac OS X users praising 7, as well as a lot of Linux guys praising it as well, aka the people who hated on Vista.

 

Troll post is fail post. By the way, what's M$?

 

i see tons of non-microsoft fanboys downloading it and loving it. even DAUs. it really is the mojave effect..

 

Here's another annoying "feature" that I have just found. I was trying to modify an excel file in my external USB hard drive. The file could not be saved because it said that the file was read-only. I checked the attribute, it was not read-only. It turned out that the file was mistakenly identified as read-only because it was located in the external drive. When I moved the file to my desktop, I could save it.

Very annoying so called Vista Security features. Killing my productivity by giving erroneous information!

Update: I have XP in the same machine using the same Office and XP has no problem at all saving in the external drive. So, it must be Vista fault!

 

I don't experience this issue.

 

Someone else already said this, but you deserved to be smacked again for this. No one is forced to use windows. There is linux - which anyone can use. With amazing projects like Ubuntu, linux is available to people that don't even really not what it is. Sorry bud, not forced.

 

I had experienced this at work with Vista X64 and Office 2007 when saving to the network server.

 

IMHO vista>XP. The last time I had a vista issue was pre SP1/beta. So my hands are staying down.

 

Cant please everybody, all the time. As for Windows 7, it seems that Microsoft is moving forward with their digital distribution model, and with that comes more strict and invasive DRM, so its really dumb to think that no problems will arise, as the most common problem with playing media, whether games, video, music, etc, stems from DRM clients such as Starforce, GFWL(now confirmed as a type of DRM)with online checking capabilities, and SecuROM. Dont believe me, look in the Fallout 3 forums, or even as far as the Farcry 2 Jackal's Curse, which has to do with DRM conflict with Creatives sound cards. So with studying the past to know where the future is heading(or learning from mistakes) I will be sticking with Windows Vista until all this gets sorted out.

 

I hear you, and I also agree in large part with what S.Subzero has said on the matter. You both bring valid points/arguments to the discussion.

I, like you, have totally given up on the whole XP vs. Vista vs. Win7 vs. (blank) arguments. Resources are there to be used, so why complain? That's like having food in your fridge and forbidding anyone to eat it. I just don't understand. I could totally understand if Vista was "misusing" the resources, but it is not. It releases more RAM as needed, so what's the problem?

Anyway, to each his own. I'm happy with both Vista and XP. I keep and use both as needed.

True indeed.

 

I have no idea what causes your problem, but on my Vista machines, I have never, ever seen the taskbar crash, nor did I see any other crashes of OS components. Now, some of the third-party software, that's another matter, of course...

 

Not liking Vista is your call, but it is quite viable and usable now.

I am happy wth Vista and use it on my laptop(s) for years.
My older Desktop still has XP on it, and its not changing anytime soon.

Heck, MacOSX and certain Linux Distros are OK and indeed better for some people.

Use what makes you happy.

 

Same here.

Every iteration of just about every OS is going to have it's detractors. People hail Windows 7 now, but once it's released, the whole cycle will start over again and so on and so forth. Is just the way the world works

 

this thread is funny

 

Indeed. You're right about that.

 

Holy crap, you do realize that Vista experienced exactly the same debacle of FUD prior to release, right? We had yahoos shouting about DRM and Palladium on every single web forum, speculating that Windows wouldn't let any non-DRM media play, that it would apply DRM to every single audio file on the computer so that files couldn't be played on other machines, that Vista would e-mail the feds, Microsoft, and the RIAA lawyers if it found that you had a large collection of non-licensed media, etc, etc, etc.

If you read around, you'll also find people claiming that Vista is riddled with this magical DRM pixie powder, which is responsible for down-sampling all non-licensed media, slowing down the computer, etc. Absolute bullcrap.

How much of that turned out to be true?

 

I say that, but it's not because of the UAC prompts or anything. I don't trust Microsoft software because they have proven that they are more interested in giving their "partners" more control over my machine than I have. The " Protected Media Path", WPA, HDCP and other design decisions that do nothing but remove bits of my computer from my control. Their digital "rights" management only serves to remove mine. And I won't stand for it.

Oh, and don't trot out the "But no one has used it yet!" defense. You're handing a loaded gun to a murderer, but he's promised not to use it. That is all this situation is... once enough people are in front of the gun and can't leave, then it will start being used. When you can't escape.

 

Uh, Win7 beta didn't come out with s*** loads of problems did it? As for programs loading faster in Vista than, XP, LOL. That's not even true. lol. Win7 and XP uses less RAM and every programs seems to load as fast or even faster in Win7 and XP.

Gazza stick with Vista and don't get Win7 since U have 4gb and Win7 uses less. So yeah, whats the point of having 4gb if Win7 isn't going to hog it. lol.

 

Microsoft has never done anything bad with DRM. Ever. Just because it hasn't happened yet with Vista's DRM doesn't mean it won't. The media companies made MS put the DRM in, and they're just waiting until there are enough people using it to turn it on. You don't think so? They certainly don't care about you. Only their friends.

 

Vista does load programs faster. After a cold boot, Firefox loads almost instantaneously under Vista. Under XP, it takes 8 - 10 seconds.

 

I just tested on Vista vs Win7. Loading explorer8. Win7 took about 2 seconds, vista took about 4 seconds. This while using about 400mb less ram.

 

The point is here. You are about 2,000 miles south.

 

You do realize that results may vary from person-to-person/PC-to-PC based on hardware and specs, right? The fact is that programs do load faster in Vista for quite a few users, myself included. So your contention that it isn't true is actually not true at all for a lot of people.

You also mentioned in another post that Win7 Beta didn't come out with the same load of problems as Vista, and while that's certainly true, I don't think you understand that Win7 uses the same kernel as Vista; hence, it's going to be a lot more solid out of the gates than Vista was.

 

To Relativity, actually alot of it turned out to be true, hence multiple anti-consumer, and anti trust lawsuits from mutliple countries, companies, and consumers, and guess what, the cases hold water according to the courts. So the last thing you want to call into question is Microsoft's work ethics, and DRM practices, when it's aready been proven that they low-ball the competition, and put the consumer on the backburner by using sketchy practices that promote their own partners over the consumer's interests . On a side note, their mice arent bad at all. Next you'll say how reliable the Xbox 360 is, and how all the statistics are magically wrong, and how Microsoft has the sole interest of the consumer in mind when making a quality product, when we know that is not the case. The Facts are being brought to light more and more every day, by way of subpenos and threats of content and obstruction of justice. Funny how those terms can help persuade a corporation to cooperate, instead of terms like you owe it to the paying consumer.

 

I just logged into XP on the same laptop earlier and explorer 8 loaded in less than a sec... Wow..

So xp took less than 1 sec, win7 took 2 sec, and vista took 4 seconds. So much for speed cache from Vista. lol. Resource hog and nothing more. Funny how XP and Vista seems to do thing faster while using less resource.

Maybe I need 12gb of rams to make my Vista run the same as 2gb in XP and Win7. hahahahahah

 

Yes, and Stalin's USSR worked on a set of rules. The system neatly conditioned you to follow them, by peer pressure and application of innocuous laws. You were "completely" free to express any political opinion, as long as it was within the parameters allowed by communist doctrine. We rejected this idea as being freedom. We lauded the few courageous people who stood up and said "we don't like the rules you say we must play by and want different ones". These people were often tortured, and ostricised. And until recently, it seemed that their views were vindicated by history, but evidently we are rolling much of it back now (slowly, gradually, frog in boiling water). The moment we just accept a corporation's will as a set of "rules" we "must follow", it will not be long before other things that previous generations took for granted become a distant memory to us. We live in a free world and have the right to ask for change we want to any rules imposed on us. If it means sharing ideas with people that MS is trampling/throttling rights, vote with your wallet, so be it. If it means playing a different game for a while eg Linux - fine too.

 

FUD, FUD, and more FUD. What exists is support for DRM-protected content (Blu-Ray, hello!), so it's playable. Otherwise, they wouldn't play! It does nothing to other content and removes no control from you.

 

ZOMG...Doesn't it actually end up being a personal choice?

Whether you like Vista, or XP? Or the vice versa of that?

Some people even like both! You could argue/discuss this to death.

And, in the end..it ends up being an *individuals* own choice.


Cin.

 

My hand is not going to be raised. In fact, I love Windows Vista.

 

I completely agree with you on this one. It is just your own opinion.

Quite frankly, I find this thread kind of humorous considering it has around 15 pages.

Right now, I kind of want this thread locked or deleted since you people keep getting at other people's throats.

Since the day I restarted Vista which was Tuesday afternoon, I am not getting anymore freezing issues as it seems like it has stopped.

 

Thanks...

To get the thread closed all you have to do is report it.

It's the little red triangular button on the bottom left of 3 icons, on the far right.

 

Yeah it's your choice, I think you should have proper knowledge of all options, though, but you should choose your own for yourself.

 

Please understand that I mean no harm or disrespect to you in saying this, but you should have expected this when you started the thread, especially with such an inflammatory title. I think the tone was set from the very beginning, although I will concede that it would have probably turned into this eventually anyway.

I do, however, agree with everyone who says that it's a personal choice because it absolutely is a personal choice. However, I also don't fault the people who have come out in defense of Vista because the truth of the matter is that all the bashing is ridiculously old and annoying now. Add to that the fact that a lot of the people who are still criticizing what's become a pretty good OS are doing so from a distance; they've never taken the time to even try to get acquainted with Vista because "they heard" it was terrible. That's my only qualm in the matter. I use both XP and Vista and am quite content with both.

Glad to see that you didn't even bother to read what I posted before posting your response.

 

Wowsa...I think this thread has served it's purpose, and I hope that the Mod's close it soon..

Personal choice...that's what it comes down to, as expressed above.


Cin.

 

As requested by the OP, this thread is now closed.

Thank you