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    Unofficial poll ? How long does your Vista PC take to boot into Windows.

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Mooly, Jun 9, 2009.

  1. DarkSilver

    DarkSilver MSI Afterburner

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    Waoooo. You only have 72 system processes. Mine is about 93 system processes.
    No wonder I boot slower than you.
     
  2. Mooly

    Mooly Notebook Evangelist

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    Rather bizzarely after todays 8 updates, and a major problem getting them to install (error 8007000b... now resolved) have just booted up in 1 min 20 secs to a full desktop and sidebar. That hasn't happened since before SP2.
    All interesting reading... thanks again.
    Around 70 processes running on startup.
     
  3. NOS

    NOS Notebook Geek

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    Before Vista SP2- about 45 - 50 seconds
    After SP2- about 1 min 20 seconds

    Every large update by MS always slows my computer down.

    I'm also having periodic issues where the system will go into some kind of freeze and the screen will turn completely white after I click an icon to go into a program. Eventually it will go back to normal and do what I told it to. Weird stuff. THis bug is most noteable after it boots. Sometimes it takes forever to open a program right after boot.
     
  4. -L1GHTGAM3R-

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    you guys got a lot of processes running i only got 40 i boot up in 20-30sec what makes it take long is object dock......mostly
     
  5. Mooly

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    :) These 8 updates seem to have speeded mine back to pre SP2. Will it last though !!!!
     
  6. Nara

    Nara Notebook Guru

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    The numbers of system processes or startup programs doesn't really affect my boot time. I once had only 3 startup programs and 45 system processes running and it still boot up in 50 secs. By the way I have a T9300 CPU, 4GB RAM and a a 320GB 5400Rpm HDD.
     
  7. Rob41

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    32 seconds from power on till apps all loaded and usable with SSD.

    Lot's of eye candy programs loading up+Skype,AVG, etc........... :rolleyes:
     
  8. Shyster1

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    Hey! Maybe that slew of updates did speed things up a wee bit. I just did a timed boot-to-first-app bootup and got a boot time of 1 min, 16.42 sec with a standard OEM preinstalled version of 64-bit _Vista Home Premium and all of the standard _HP bloatware still on-board (ok, ok, so I'm being a bit lazy, but still, the thing boots like greased lightning compared to my recently-deceased 6 y.o. VAIO, even with all the bloatware and whatnot).
     
  9. Christoph.krn

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    Thank you for this information, I must have overlooked that on the Win7 blog. The 90 seconds were based on my personal experiences with various computers. I will update my post accordingly.
     
  10. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The question though is, what exactly does MS measure?

    Before I reinstalled everything it took me about 2 minutes and 30-40 seconds till everything worked, sometimes 2 minutes - still, I'm pretty sure the windows log claimed less than that.

    Another strange thing - my laptop would boot up fastest after a fresh recovery - SP1 and SP2 and its slower to the best of my knowledge, add more software and its still slower... ah well... the pl.ight of computers.
     
  11. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    do a clean install and then believe the numbers of microsoft.

    2min what ever is just crap slow.

    we have p4 based systems, years old, with some old 80gb hdd in, that boot in around 1 min. atom based systems, around 1min.

    if your sony vaio boots slower, then you, sir, have a big problem.
     
  12. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Have you got a link to a guide were to find it?

    It was hidden somewhere deep in the systm logs...and I forgot...
     
  13. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    no clue, sorry.

    i normally measure switch-on-time till bios-has-done-it's-work-time and then till os boot is done including wlm logged in and or some win+e explorer window popped up.
     
  14. cvvikram

    cvvikram Notebook Consultant

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    ~15 seconds
     
  15. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    But where do I find those values?
    I know its logging them.

    I don't have Windows Live Messenger starting automatically - no need.
     
  16. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    just take a stopwatch and measure. no need to "grab the values from the system".

    and how about.. enabling msn autostart to test? and then disable afterwards..
     
  17. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I think the stopwatch will give me about 1 minute 40 seconds - 2 minutes max at the moment.

    I generally open Outlook immediately - and that needs 20 or more odd seconds or so on its first startup (unless its prefetched later on)
     
  18. coolguy

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    My Sony Vaio FZ boots up in under a minute with both Vista X86 and Windows 7 RC X64 and running 45-50 processes upon booting.
     
  19. dbam987

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    For my new desktop it's about 2 minutes now, with all the services and software I use that loads into the background. I'm a software developer by day, so lots of things are installed. By the time it's in a usable state, 90+ processes are loaded.

    For my MBP, about 35 seconds or so.

    For a Vista virtual machine (running on my Dell desktop through VMWare Workstation), about 35-40 seconds (it varies depending on what other things i'm doing on the machine at the time of boot).
     
  20. Kocane

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    Well, im not sure about boot, but i know that it takes 60 seconds (exactly 60) to reboot my pc... until most apps are loaded
     
  21. McGrady

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    By "boot up", I meant time from pressing the power button to the time till all the apps are usable.
     
  23. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    45 seconds till I can see the desktop;
    3 Minutes 53 Seconds till everything is loaded and Vuze is running.
     
  24. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    OK, I timed it from the moment I pressed the power switch:
    52s until I get the windows logo
    55s until I get the log-on screen
    then it takes a little while - I get the annoying black screen... (maybe I'll move thatto pre-log-on)
    and after 2 minutes 15 seconds I cn use Outlook.

    It does take at least 30 seconds after log on to sort itself out too...
    (in the time outlook loads)
     
  25. davepermen

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    welcome to autorun hell of sony-version of vista, then.

    and outlook, it takes long, yes. i guess you have 2007 with sp2. still, it's not instant :)

    i use online mail, much faster than outlook :) i still use outlook for calendaring and contacts, because then it's absolutely instant :) i just don't use it's mail feature.
     
  26. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I couldn't live without Outlook :D - and yes it is 2007.

    By the way - its that slow because it isn't refetched immediately after startup - if I wait a couple of minutes it'll start much quicker.
     
  27. Aeris

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    1 minute and 20 seconds sir!, the RAID Array Setup takes around 30 seconds from that mark, 1 minute and 45 seconds until that ObjectDock is loaded.

    Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit, tweaked and customized extensively.

    ( Laptop "Rainbow" in my signature. )
     
  28. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    extensive tweaking may have been detrimental to your startup time...
     
  29. Aeris

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    Agreed, it was mostly Services that I disabled, Services that I do not use; the Creative SoundBlaster Notebook Audio card that I have plugged into the laptop does no justice for the Boot Time, the driver has to be initialized in order for there to be sound, and the screen stays black during that process. (Creative Labs' Drivers are about as clogged up as a Bus Station's Stool.)
     
  30. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I didn't instal any drivers at all for my X-Fi Go - well - the automatically installed ones only - and I boot witout my X-Fi Go.

    About Services - it is best to leave all the Windows Service in peace - only change ones yo add yourself, like some Rxio stuff (that I don't need and want - its part of my BlackBerry's software).
     
  31. theseadragon

    theseadragon Notebook Consultant

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    Much longer since SP2.....
     
  32. taruian

    taruian Notebook Consultant

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    Over 2 minutes :(
     
  33. Aeris

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    I guess that Vista Service Pack 2 did not turn out as promised by Microsoft... so sad.
     
  34. EnterKnight

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    Looks like something is very wrong...
     
  35. Shyster1

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    Turned out just fine on an OEM-standard _Vista install with no so-called "tweaks" added to it; strikes me that it has more to do with self-borked systems than with anything Microsoft did, or didn't do. "Tweaking" - now there's a sad waste of time.
     
  36. NOS

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    My little m1330 used to boot up in about 45 seconds even with the heavy mods.

    Then, I updated Microsoft office and vista sp 2 and it now takes about 1min 20sec. Every major update by Microsoft slows my computers down. I guess that's why they come out with a new operating system every 3 years.

    I have an old amd 4000+ desktop computer at home (no mods, running bare minimum) that takes about 5 minutes to boot into xp. :)
     
  37. techNOguy

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    Vista 64 w/ SP2. Originally, it took less than a minute to boot up and was ready to go. But now, it seems I have to wait another 4 or 5 minutes after boot up for the harddrive to stop chugging away before I can actually use a program. This time around, I used decrapifier to remove bloatware instead of the usual starting from scratch and installing drivers.
     
  38. Shyster1

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    Sounds like you've either got a lot of services firing up at startup, a wickedly fragmented drive, or a lot of other gunk in the system (not of the bloatware kind).
     
  39. Mooly

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    All this has been really interesting.
    As an experiment, I copied my HDD (Acronis) so I can revert back, and decided to reinstall Vista. Done as a clean format and reinstall from an upgrade DVD, so done twice, install, then upgrade.
    Results are surprising. First how "small" the install of Vista is with no updates, only around 10gb used. Then all the updates ! That seemed to double the install size, even after running disc cleanup.
    Is it quicker. Up to now NO NO NO. It's pathetic. Nearly 3 minutes to load the Vista desktop and sidebar. It's slower than the 2 year old install that has all my other programs etc with it.
    Will it speed up ??? as we are told it does with use. I'll persevere for now, as within the 30 days activation period.
     
  40. taruian

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    what must be wrong knight? i've few start up programs running during the boot.
    what do you think that is slowing down the boot time?
     

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    My laptop, with Vista SP2, takes roughly 55 seconds to boot.
     
  42. Zaraphrax

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    XPS M1530, T9500, 6gb RAM, 5400RPM HDD running Vista Ultimate x64 SP1.

    I'd say probably a 30 seconds to the login screen. After I hit enter on the password, perhaps another 10 or 15 seconds? That's with NOD32 AV which I've just replaced with Avira. I haven't really payed any attention to see if that's made any difference. My install is starting to get a bit "dusty", so I might do a fresh install before I upgrade to SP2. I'll report back once I've installed SP2.
     
  43. tuηay

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    This seems good, have you tried other things to speed up your system ?
     
  44. Biomorphic

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    my notebook takes about 20-30 sec's to fully boot into Windows.
     
  45. taruian

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    other things,
    yea i do defrag the drive once a week,
    check for drive errors
    clean up the junk files everyday
    remove unwanted registry entries
    scan for virus n spywares

    hmm what else do i need to tweak?
     
  46. stowellt

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    1 minute 7 seconds
     
  47. DetlevCM

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    Tweaking + Vista = pointless or disaster

    Those "unwanted registry entries" could be important.
     
  48. tuηay

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    Check your P.M
     
  49. Mooly

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    "Tweaking + Vista = pointless or disaster

    Those "unwanted registry entries" could be important."

    Just uninstalled Java (to install new version 14) and ran CCleaner after this uninstall. 251 invalid entries found all relating to this. It was "clean" before uninstalling.
    In the "scale" of things i.e. the size of the registry, would these even matter. I don't know !
     
  50. davepermen

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    normally they don't matter as the registry is virtualized into different files, and database style. that means lots more data == only a little bit slower.

    but still, i use ccleaner to purge from time to time, too.
     
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