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    Unofficial poll ? How long does your Vista PC take to boot into Windows.

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Mooly, Jun 9, 2009.

  1. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The accepted consensus is that on XP the registry could have a negative impact if it grew to big with too many old entries - but you'd be speaking thousands - not 200.

    On Vista Registry Cleaners are generally pointless - also because Vista relies less on the registry.

    However - if you have a registry specific problem a registry cleaner my help.
    (it did on one of our old laptops - XP - but that was pure luck)
     
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    Well, I suppose if you instal Winamp, then unistal it and CCleaner find 100 odd Winamp entries youc an safely delete those - but once you get to registry key you can't associate with a programme easily it can become dangerous in that you damage the system.
    (Oh, and yes, Winamp leaves a messif you unistal it - a reaon for me not to instal it again in the near future)
     
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    i had some issues with ccleaner and ableton live which killed the app activaction when i cleaned up with ccleaner. and as i only have 3 activations that was quickly annoying. traced it down to ccleaner being the culprit.

    so while you clean up the uninstalled winamp you may mess up some other application. and then, you may have a hard time to trace it down as it's so unrelated.
     
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    Thanks for that. Must say CC has never given me a problem.
     
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    never for me all the years except for that, and one time a buggy system that was booting slowly made full bluescreendeathnonbootableatall after running ccleaner. once the registry is hosed up, don't try to clean it :) it will clean'n'destroy (tm).

    but they are all very very rare cases. i still trust ccleaner desprite those happenings. but i don't force people to it. espencially on vista, which is very stable at performance by itself, unlike xp was.
     
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    Read every entry ;) if the fle path in CCleaner says Winamp and you removed Winamp it should be pretty much sure.
    But even easier - don't instal software if you will just unistal it.

    Overal, as far as I am aware I haven't had a problem caused by CCleaner either (yet).
    And I do try to keep off the registry cleaners - they have done too much harm for me in the past.
     
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    well, i don't install apps just to uninstall them. there is always some usage-timeframe between of course :)

    and no, i don't read several 100ts to 1000nds of entries, i just click'n'go.

    and the thing about "it never made problems to me" is twofold.

    first: just like disabling uac never harmed most that disabled it, just like most that don't use a savetybelt didn't get killed, the one time it DOES hurt, it does hurt badly. making an installation unbootable hurts. making a dj software not-working-anymore during the weekend hurts (try to get it unlocked before a gig, then :))

    second: it's sometimes hard to track down the cause of an error. ccleaner can clean up something, that may hurt hours, days, months later (say you suddenly can't install sp3 for some weird reason. maybe because of ccleaner that i can't install sp3 on the xp of my gf.. dunno.. never tracked it down really).

    so while it may always have worked for you, maybe the tiny problems you have are actually based on it but you may never find out..


    edit: but overall, yes, ccleaner has very very few problems created so far. seen much worse :)
     
  8. tuηay

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    I had also problems with Ccleaner, now I use Auslogics BoostSpeed wich is much better :) No problems so far :D

    I don't want to "diss" Ccleaner here, not miss-understand please. :) ;)
     
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    Very true - but being a bit morereserved before youinstal something may help - anyway.

    On the Registry - true, something that works now can die 3 weeks or months later...

    And on reading entries - if for whatever use the registry cleaner I actually do, check the entries and only select the ones associated clearly and visibly by software that was recently removed.
    Even if its is 200 entries.
     
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    disallow me to test out all apps that are interesting means i can't help as much here and when friends are in trouble. so, that's a clear nogo :)

    for the rest, yes, and no. i won't read, ever.

    and btw, i cleaned up some old stuff of ableton, which killed new stuff of ableton. you can't understand that while reading the entries :)
     
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    That is true :D - but:
    If I were to instal, say your Ableton - then upgrade to a newer version, run the registry cleaner an see those entries I'd just leave them - better safe than sorry - as I's have the software that they are associated with installed.

    About reading - your choice - but its actually faster than you may think.
    If you have 20 consecutive entries, just highlight them all and hit space to check the box ;)
     
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    about thirty seconds or so.


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