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    Vista users will cry now: Windows 7 confirmed

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Nocturnal310, Apr 5, 2008.

  1. pixelot

    pixelot Notebook Acolyte

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    But...but...I like my DOS games. Nostalgic, I guess. I'll always run a 32-bit OS just for their sake. :p
     
  2. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    Thats good news. But I'm still bothered by some things, like Microsoft's announcement to make 7 a subscription-based OS. If they take it that far, I might abandon Microsoft's OSs altogether and keep using Ubuntu.
     
  3. Thomas

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    I mean a three year cycle.
     
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    What do you mean subscription based....?
     
  5. Nocturnal310

    Nocturnal310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    He means smthtg like Norton... where u pay every year to keep it updated or running.
     
  6. lemonbone

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    I bet there will be even more problem than Vista.
     
  7. jtmat

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    This is something that MS is kicking around.... not even a fact, even if some people like to pretend like it is... (have to separate fact from fiction from forums like this).

    It would be interesting to see if they could pull it off, given their product model. I'd guess it would be something businesses would use. Might be good for consumers to spread the cost over 3 years instead of one lump sum. But that would hit ms in the pocketbook... I doubt it will happen.

    Far as the topic of this thread:

    I've bounced around with xp and vista... I had my laptop in a dualboot. I prefer vista, but my xp build is perfect and works perfect, I can't seem to dump it. Even my main pc is perfect, so I may wait until I need to replace rebuild the OS or until I replace the pc before moving to vista.

    It was already stated that win 7 would be here around three years of vista's release. I think most don't understand that vista has been out over a year and if win 7 is released late next year, MS would have hit the goal of a product release in three years.

    Far as "throw away" comment... well, my mac has releases about every year. They cost less than MS in one sitting, but over time, it has costs me considerably more to purchase licenses for my mac.

    Obviously, MS needs a product that "works" 100% out the gate... or fix issues much sooner than a year and two months.

    But in light of the security challenge (linux vs. vista vs. mac) it was shown that vista is well worth its weight in gold... good OS.
     
  8. Gintoki

    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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    I like the fact that Windows 7 will be modular with subscriptions but based on how they implement it, i might be sticking with Vista.
     
  9. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    I'm definitely interested in a subscription based OS especially if I can get just the parts I need or want. As a gamer I just want the stripped down core OS to run my games similar to the Xbox 360 which has a very small OS. :D

    It's long overdue in this wacky IT world of giving you what you don't need in your OS and more. Apple is no different with OSX.

    I also expect MS to be reasonable with their fees because they know it won't fly if the public thinks they're are being gouged. Who would have thought we might be making a full circle towards the days of MS-DOS. :cool:
     
  10. Gintoki

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    I also think the modular nature of Windows 7 is nice but the subscriptions might be too much for me, especially if they plan it to make me pay for Windows 7 every year to keep it active. Nope, i don't like that one bit.
     
  11. Lite

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    Id be happy to switch to just 64 bit with windows 7.
     
  12. Nocturnal310

    Nocturnal310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    NO,

    Windows 7 will be the Stable Version of Vista ..

    Windows 7 will be the real successor of XP

    Vista is just an Interim OS
     
  13. Gintoki

    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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    It's a very good one at that. So much, if i don't like Windows 7, I'll be fine with Vista.
     
  14. jtmat

    jtmat Notebook Evangelist

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    Interesting enough, it looks like 32-bit will be the main "shipping" os with win7.

    Other:

    Any talk on subscriptions is empty rhetoric at this point... bottom line is no one knows what will be offered
     
  15. The Magnificent Turk

    The Magnificent Turk Notebook Enthusiast

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    And again, you are incorrect. But I doubt if it matters at this point... you have made a decision to believe whatever you want, but take a look at this site:

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/WinHistoryDesktop.mspx

    As it shows, xp was a "freak" occurance.

    Win me and 2000 were "interim OSs" if there were ever such a thing. Heck, several versions of mac os should be called an interim os. lol

    Fact is that vista's successor is right on target for a three year release... and the release date has more to do with their business model than how "bad" or "good" vista is or is not.
     
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    Explain me how Vista is unstable right now.

    And I won't accept any arguements involving Nvidia drivers.
     
  19. kanehi

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    Cry? XP users were the ones crying when Vista came out! XP users will once again cry when Windows 7 comes out because the future is coming and XP will probably be retired by then. Lets see who's goin' to CRY! LOL

    Hopefully the developers are beginning to see the light and go for 64bit and higher programs! Are 128bit CPUs coming soon? Sweet!

    Ironic. My big question is ... If you're an XP user will you embrace Windows 7 or will you still cry foul then? Why so happy with Windows 7 and not with Vista? You guys don't even know what's what with W7 yet!
     
  20. AKAJohnDoe

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    OS's are like academia: Pubish or perish. And like all publications, some are poorly written and others are not worth reading.

    My own opinions:
    • 32-bit is ancient history
    • Subscription-based OS maintenance, perhaps, but any subscription implementation that places a deadline upon the actual running or execution of an OS would precipitate a mass exodus from that OS.
    • Modern OS's have been modular since the 1970's or before. In order to survive, Windows must adopt a more modular architecture with standard interfaces between the modules so that modules can be upgraded or replaced independently. And so that third-party software can be implemented in it's stead.
    • While web or network-based applications are efficient and appropriate for corporate, campus, and some individual user usage patterns, the ability to install applications locally must not be crippled. At least not until wireless bandwidth becomes truely affordable and available in even the most remote areas.
     
  21. Thief

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    Prepare for more hardware news. Windows 7 will require at least 4 gb of ram to run smoothly. Same story over and over again. I think if this is the case I will switch to Linux.
     
  22. JCMS

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    Of course it will be like this. But I'd saymore 2.5-3GB since they are making a 32bits edition
     
  23. alynch75

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    more and more bloatware from microsoft.. they are relasing bloated code....... yes i use it cuz I am trapped but if this windows 7 goes down like that I am switching to all Mac Book Pro or Linux...... yeah i will have to find new software but at this point its better than feedding into the microsfot ruled system... shame on them...if they realized how good open source is and releast the code to the ms os we would see better progress
     
  24. jack sparrow

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    I am stuck with XP, even if I bought a laptop that came with Vista, i "downgrade" to XP right away.
    If Windows 7 is going to be the same memory hunger...I will go for Linux too, if XP disappears. By the way any link to this W7 OS?
     
  25. pixelot

    pixelot Notebook Acolyte

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    If Windows 7 is exactly like Vista, I will use it. nocturnal310, Vista isn't that bad. It's not another ME, OK? ;)
     
  26. Bowlerguy92

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    If a new version of Windows does in fact come out, I will be 100% switching to Mac OSX.
     
  27. pixelot

    pixelot Notebook Acolyte

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    Don't do it! Ubuntu is there for you. It's free. :D
     
  28. kanehi

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    Sorry to say but Linux including the Ubuntu flavor is not a 100% workable since not all drivers are supported. The mainstream is Windows and nothing wrong with that. So XP users would rather switch than adapt. What happens to your $$$ worth of softwares?
     
  29. thegreatsquare

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    I won't cry. I'm getting XP on my gaming rig. I'll dualboot it with Windows 7. It will be perfect timing to bypass Vista.
     
  30. JCMS

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    Wait, why are you using WinXP? You should use Win95.
     
  31. AKAJohnDoe

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    Eh? What did you say?
     
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    Prediction for Windows 7's Minimum System Requirements:

    1.5GHz or faster dual-core CPU
    2GB of memory
    DX9 graphics card with 256MB of VRAM
    30GB of free hard drive space

    Recommended:

    3.5GHz or faster quad-core CPU
    8GB of memory
    DX10 graphics card with 2GB of VRAM
    30GB of free hard drive space (another 5 if you get the Home Deluxe for the Web 3.0 Second Edition Version)
     
  33. JCMS

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    That's overly exagerated....
     
  34. Lithus

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    That's what you call a "joke".
     
  35. Spyda Kat

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    Come on...8GB...really? Yea right that is so over the top it isn't funny
     
  36. w11son

    w11son Notebook Guru

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    Is there any laptop that support 4GB Ram/slot. Do recommend me one.
    WIndows 7 is it Client OS or Server OS?
     
  37. McGrady

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    any 64 bit os can suppport 4gb ram
    client os
     
  38. Lithus

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    Yeah, but that doesn't mean the BIOS or motherboard can handle 4 GB per slot. I'm not aware of any, though it's overkill right now anyway.

    I'd assume that they'll release some Server 20xx based on Windows 7 a year or so after it's released.
     
  39. McGrady

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    oh are u talking about 4gb PER slot?
     
  40. pixelot

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    The motherboard must support it. Most motherboards don't.
     
  41. Nocturnal310

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    If it runs on same Config as Vista PC's then it will be a big Hit.

    Otherwise people will stick to Vista or XP.
     
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    The thing is, M$oft has created the perfect OS - XP. It is so good that Vista cannot match the 5 year old XP. Yes, Vista is another ME. It does not offer anything significant. Several improvements, refreshments but nothing that can justify the allegedly long development. There is absolutely no reason to switch to Vista at this time. I guess Vista is part of M$oft's plan to make some $ until windows 7 is out. They have fooled their customers by marketing Vista is the next-gen OS but in fact, Vista is like SP4 for XP.
     
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    I believe XP is 7 y.o. going on 8. Vista is about 2. Can't really compare the features since they are of different time frames. Vista in 7 years or so should surpass XP but then again XP will be non-existent! Windows 7 will be the "borg" OS and will assimilate both systems! <watching too much Star Trek>
     
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    You can customize hp 8710w with 4 gb per slot. 8 gb altogether. Its very expensive tho.
     
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    well I got free Vista that came with my laptop plus use Anytime upgrade (64bit) for $5. nothing to lose.

    I am not going spend burn my $ for win 7 just for polish up OS and fine-tuning but still DRM 2 ??? and UAC 2 ???

    I am plan to get XP pro SP3 disc when they come out and like to install xp on my old pc.

    Hope MS slip Win 7 full version just like "Anytime Upgrades" for $5 bucks :)

    Dg
     
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    A lot of new laptops coming out this summer with Centrino 2 will support 8GB of ram (like the Dell Latitude E's).
     
  47. JCMS

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    Take a RTM XP and a RTM Vista, then tell me how is XP is "perfect". XP is perfect because it got 7 years of patching.

    Win7 at launch probably won't be any better than 95,98,2000,xp or vista were at launch
     
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    I just think it's funny how any Joe Schmoe with a blog can get so many people in a tizzy over this stuff. It's too early to speculate on Windows 7 at this stage...bottom line.

    Man, I want to start a blog now and rifle off a bunch of predictions too...
     
  49. pixelot

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    LOL @ davemolina. :D

    That's why I don't read many blogs. ;)
     
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