Vista users will cry now: Windows 7 confirmed

Hahaha.

Crazy old Gates....

 

Unless I see an official release from MS or something from Paul Thurrot, I won't believe it.

 

Won't believe what? That Win 7 may be coming next year or 2010

 

Release date (We haven't even seen a Beta yet)
Module-based
Subscriptions
MinWin
WinFS

Pretty much everything that's speculated.

 

i don't like windows anymore.

 

In other news...the sky is falling.

 

Whaddya mean, "The sky is falling"? Come on, dude. Windows will go on; they will adapt to competition from OSX and Linux. Relax.

 

That's ridiculous, I don't believe in this crap. I've seen failing things before, but they at least went on for MORE THAN A YEAR... plus, it's not like Windows Vista is permanantly flawed or anything, there's always room for improvement and theres pdefinate possibility for changes...

Plus, I trust that Vista will fix its flaws, like sure it is pretty flawed right now, but at the same time, I really don't feel like going back to Windows XP. Its a great operating sysytem, but I've used it with my desktop since it launched years ago (7 years). I'm tired of it's looks and it's functions, so I depend on Vista to change...

 

LOL, that's funny. "Competition from OSX and Linux" <--HA!

Microsoft's biggest competitor is Microsoft. XP, not OSX, not Linux, is stealing market share from Vista.

 

I guess that's true. Weird, isn't it. Competition from yourself.

But MS really does have competition from Linux, and will have more if it gets worse. Well, ATM, the competition from Linux isn't really significant, but the point is that if MS ever gets bad enough where Linux/OSX are serious competitors, MS will undoubtedly get it's game on.

Competition breeds excellence.

 

Indeed it does, which is why i want Linux to succeed. Ubuntu is doing wonders in that area. I've always wanted to try Linux because i'm a curious person, but i'm afraid. Maybe i'll do a dual boot when i get my 1530

 

It's not that difficult to get Ubuntu running. I recommend it. :smile:

 

I'm going to try it one of these days, but now with my current system...it's too puny...

 

Not sure if you know the story of Chicken Little then...

Chicken Little starts running around saying that the sky if falling. Everyone believes him and they all start running around warning people and creating mass hysteria. The sky wasn't falling, of course.

Windows 7 will not be out within a year, and Vista is not a failure. People just fall into the mob mentality.

 

Pixelot was refuting the point that "The sky is falling". Not lacking the understanding of where that line comes from.

 

Yes, I know the story of Chicken Little.

 

I wonder if the Nehalem laptop I buy next summer will come with a 'Windows 7 capable' sticker?

 

This is just pure speculation based on a quote taken out of context. I'm happy with Vista x64 until then.

 

Absolutely not. First, Windows 7 is not the official name, and second, Microsoft has hopefully learned from the "Vista Capable" fiasco, that consumers interpret the word "capable" as "can run everything without the slightest hitch".

 

VERY good point, Lithus. Which adds to my case that MS will learn from mistakes and competition; there's no need to panic and switch to OSX!

 

Whether or not they learn, there's no need for panic or switching to OSX.

XP users don't need to panic because Vista is out. Vista users don't need to panic because Windows 7 comes out. MS still guarantees support for their OS'es at least two years after the last service pack.

So what if a newer product has been announced/released? That doesn't magically make the one you've got any less useful, does it? I'm happy with XP today, the fact that Vista is out doesn't bother me.
And if you're happy with Vista, why would you care if 7 is coming out next year (which I doubt)

 

LOL.

im still using my old dell 8200 xp and my p4 dekstop still XP

my new laptops gateway and dell vostro use vista.

if i ever get another laptop next year i wouldnt mind it be on windows 7, jeez everyone is soo jumpy and serious about the new or next op system. as long as your happy with your current ones or whichever at least you will have choices now and in the future, either XP vista OR windows 7.

 

qft

P.S. Vista is nothing like Millennium. Now that was a gawd awful OS.

 

I've been following this for a while now and I thought they mentioned something about a BETA starting next year which would be the correct timing if MS decides to go back to the old new OS every 3 years, meh. It'll be like the old days with friends using everything from 3.11 to 98SE right up until Win 2000/NT SP4 came out. Some will use XP still, some will use Vista and some will use all three

 

coming out in 2010 latest 2011

 

Something will come out after tht too.So it doesn't make much difference.

 

xp could totally outlive vista. if xp sp3 and vista sp1 are it those two operating systems, xp support will technically outlive vista...

not seriously, but it would be funny.

 

u know why people talked about or complaining about the "windows 7" is because most of us got used to with xp. xp had been out for 10 years now. and after all those long 10 years with xp. is reasonable accepted vista. but vista only came out like a year and few months. now microsoft making a new one so fast, is just unacceptable. maybe we all need to accept the changes....

 

Both Xp and Vista are fine.. I truly hope the new version of windows does ship on that timetable... more and possibly better choices are a good thing.

The whole "switch to mac" panic thing is entertaining... mac users are mac users... you either like an obedient but stupid computer or a smarter-but-willful one. (or can deal with both and prefer one)
I prefer to do the thinking and have my computer follow orders... all the time.
Maybe you prefer one which decides for you what you are going to do... your time, your money, your computer.

Blue screen or bomb... it just doesn't matter. It's all in what you get used to.
(mac has copied the bluescreen from PC recently to make PC users feel more at home, but don't call it that on the mac boards or you will be banned.)

 

XP has only been out for about six and a half years, but the point is still valid. People whine about Vista largely because they're used to XP, not because it's a "failure." My mom bought a new computer with Vista installed and she complained. Why? It wasn't because it ran worse, or because things didn't work or crashed. No, it was because it was a little different than what she was used to. Now she likes it. As far as I'm concerned, I'm glad to see Microsoft really making an effort to go back to the every 3 year timeframe. Newer stuff, quicker.

I found an excellent timeline showing the history and release dates of various Windows operating systems here, if anyone's interested:

http://www.levenez.com/windows/history.html#09

It puts a few perspectives on things, in my opinion.

 

One thing interesting to note is that this chart predicted Vista SP2 to go RTM by February 4, 2008 (and some notation for Windows 7 at January 08 that I can't make out).

 

Windows 7 not coming in one-year; Bill Gates just loosing his mind?

http://www.gadgetell.com/tech/comme...in-one-year-bill-gates-just-loosing-his-mind/ READ ARTICLE

 

where is vista sp2?? it had been delated people!!!

 

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Delated definition: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=delated

 

Ok, for the guys earlier in the thread talking about 32bit and 64bit, or anyone that knows...

what's up with the no DOS/old games if you upgrade to 64bit? Don't games run in DOS or is that fake DOS now? I r confused.

 

I'm sure there going to come out with 16-bit emulators after 64-bit becomes a bit more main stream.

 

Besides, with the computing power and resources available to even low-end new computers, it'd be much easier imo to create a virtual machine and install DOS games on that. No need to really hack them into working on the newest version of Windows. Backwards compatibility is probably another reason Windows isn't where it could be: the need of Microsoft to make all these old business and user applications and drivers compatible with their newest OS.

 

Making a new OS backwards compatible including DOS is insane and doesn't make sense. Vista was delayed because MS wanted to cater to XP users so their programs can work with it but MS decided to forgo the 16bit programs as a compromise. Hopefully Win7 gets rid of these excess baggage of compatibility issues and it'll be truly a "new" OS. And I cross my fingers that all the programs/drivers designed for it requires 64bit or higher (?). No more 32bits! New faster processors, faster RAM, faster everything and yet developers are stagnant in development. Win7 will probably be dogged with the same problem as Vista... XP users still complaining! Bottom line.. what do XP users really want? I believe MS already max'd the performance of XP. Need to go forward.

 

You kno i really Hate Fanboys...

they are unreasonable, they are girlish, they lose argument & start whining.

And they cause my threads to close.

Bloody S#%*

See this

And THIS THREAD

 

Those threads are silly.

 

...and flamebait, and thus rightfully closed.

 

LOL... you can't create a thread that says anything bad about linux or macs!

They both have zealots that troll threads ready to pounce! Then you have the windows zealots who must rub in the fact that they are using a superior product....

All this make a recipe for disaster.

Ok, all jokes aside... yea, people do take these things too seriously sometimes... we are talking about tools... and OS. I use them and all and all are great... and all suck at the same time... each OS is strong in certain areas and weak in others.... great to have choice though.

 

Touching on what jtmat said, I don't know why people hate vista so much, if you dont like, then dont use, its not for everyone. Its like osx people hating on windows, I dont edit movies or pictures or anything, so osx's big selling point is gone. Its all personal preference. I have a decent rig, and I want to use the most out of it, which can't happen using xp. I have a laptop, vista gives more battery time then xp and keeps cooler with less I/O to the drive, so its perfect. For an actually Tower PC, Id probably go with XP or maybe even a flavor of ubuntu. But im sorry, xp on a laptop just plain sux, because laptops weren't common when it came out. Now back to OSX, I have no problem with it, but if you mac fanboys are gonna claim its better then a linux or windows distros, then your odviously dumb. OSX can't run on any other system (with out extensive hacking) other then apples stuff, so as soon as apple releases an OS that can go on other pcs like linux or window then by all means rant all you want, but until then, dont bother.

 

Although there is no true way we can know this, I tend to agree if I use recent history as a barometer for the future. I really don't see any way this new OS can require anything less than current system requirements.

 

Well, we all know it, Vista is bloated (with useful but bloating features). In W7 I believe they were going to rework the entire kernel and build everything from scratch to eliminate the bloat (possibly even make the OS modular so you can add/remove what you want to make a minimal install, correct me if I'm wrong on this). Based on this assumption, W7 should have <= requirements than Vista, likely closer to between XP and Vista (for decent performance anyways). As long as it isn't subscription based as it is rumored I'm in.

 

I completely agree with this. Hopefully W7 will be as awesome as it can be but what will turn me off is subscriptions to the OS, subscriptions to apps is fine, but for the OS is just insane.

 

Considering that Intel's new laptop chipset will allow up to 8GB of RAM, its not out of the question that Win7 would be best experienced with 4GB. Hell, if I could keep my page file in RAM and not worry about destabilizing Windows I'd happily chuck another $80 at Fry's for 4GB more RAM.

3 years ago in the consumer market, only hardcore gamers came close to having 2GB of RAM...now its considered standard.

 

If this goes through I foresee a greater uprising than the one against Vista! Personally, I don't think people will tolerate this unless it's insanely cheap per term, like <=$50/year, otherwise people who keep old systems around will be paying way more than anyone else. Plus, I'd rather pay for my OS once and be done with it rather than drag it out. Listen MS, SUBSCRIPTION BASED OSES ARE A BAD IDEA! Linux w/ Wine/Crossover FTW if it happens.

 

If it does happen like that, I'll keep vista, and maybe dual boot with Linux. I won't tolerate that at all.