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    W7 buglist ***post here bugs and problems you find***

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Wishmaker, Jan 11, 2009.

  1. Sodium

    Sodium Notebook Enthusiast

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    i have a problem with the task bar, after idling and log in again.
    the task bar will go away. and wont show up other then the orb for start menu

    i read online that you can just go to tak manager and run explorer.exe and it will "fix" this problem. but is there a real solution to this?

    i am running win 7 ultimate 32 bit, thanks in advance
     
  2. GoodBytes

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    You have something that closes explorer.exe.
    Check for malware on your computer with malwarebytes, and ensure that you don't have ALL background and software closed as one of them is having fun with your taskbar. By close background process means that you system tray (where the clock is) is supposed to be empty, other than Windows white icons and the clock, of course.
     
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    ok i thank you for your help.
    but i have done full scan with malwarebytes(free version) and it showed none.

    i can just keep doing the run explorer.exe thing, but its kinda annoying.....
     
  4. GoodBytes

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    Like I said, it's a program that you have on your system that is having fun closing explorer. You have to remove that program. Malwarebyte detects some malware based on a database. It can't decompile software, and scan through them to see where is the code to close explorer.exe. No one has this issue, so it's clear it's a software that does that.
     
  5. LIVEFRMNYC

    LIVEFRMNYC Blah Blah Blah!!!

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    There's a huge bug I have with Windows 7 ...... It's that I have absolutely no problems at all. This concerns me very much as Windows + no problems = can not compute. How can I fix this?
     
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    Ok let me help you:
    - When you set a color profile Windows Live Photo Gallery, and Windows Photo Gallery shows an image yellow.

    - Programs can bug the task bar, for instance Winamp 5 sometimes screws up the task where it lights on an item, stays there, even when the mouse rolled out of the task bar, even if you do other things with your computer.. until you restart explorer.exe, or never use Winamp 5 ever again (which is fine by me).

    -The left blue column that appears on the left side of some panels has a problem.. some panels you see it scroll in as an animation from left to right which is fine. Other just appears, poof like that. Animation or not, it's fine, but be consistent.
    To see what I mean: Open "Computer", and on the item bar (the blue horizontal line), click on "System properties". Notice how the left side column appears. Now if you do the same, but instead click on "Uninstall or change a program".

    - When you open the game folder for the first time after a system startup, and scale the window, the game icon becomes 1 row, and the right column takes the whole space.

    - When you exit of some games, the mouse cursor animations don't animate anymore until reboot, or you change a cursor "look" settings.

    - 59.97Hz displays appears as 59Hz, instead of 60Hz, like in previous Windows. It rounds down instead of up.

    - Sound panel playback and recording, doesn't use the highest settings by default as "share mode", why would you want to reduce sound quality? Solution:
    (Sound panel > double click on your output sources (Speakers) > go to the advance tab, and set the sound quality to max).

    - Close, restore/maximize, minimize tooltip is form the old Windows, not using Aero style.

    - Closing system should not hibernate after shutdown has been ordered.

    - When you restart or shutdown your computer, the "log-off" screen flashes for a seconds returning to your desktop, and come back to it. It should not do that. It should close everything fade out to the log-out screen and shutdown/restart the computer.

    - Some applications, even the ones form Windows (like the burning tool), doesn't update it's live preview... making it more a screen shot than live preview.

    - White background on icons form folders:
    [​IMG]


    - Media player 12 internet sharing is iffy.. it lacks a lot of troubleshooting solutions, and help documentation.

    - On rare occasion, gadgets stay always on top and can't be fixed until reboot, or restart of gadget process (sidebar.exe).

    The above are small bugs that I encounter... now you can go to sleep.
     
  7. thundernet

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    My win7 Home edition during boot shows the 4 MIcrosoft colours coming together and forming the Ms win7 logo...My win7 ultimate edition doesn't do that.Is that normal???...Both are legit copies of win7.
     
  8. GoodBytes

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    No it's not. What do you have instead?
     
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    A bar that is filling from left to right and under it says microsoft corporation.Other than that I am very happy with the win7 ultimate and it is normal in every other way.

    p.s:I just did a hashcheck of both ISO's with microsoft and both check out fine.Probably I am the only one with win7ultimate without the flag in the begining.
     
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    Sorry if it sounds a little stupid but maybe you have checked "auto hide taskbar".Taskbar>right click>properties.
     
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    Keep getting the error "This device cannot start. (Code 10)" when I plug my Windows mobile phone to the USB port. The most common solution I can find on the Internet is to either load an updated driver (already has it) or uninstall the driver for the phone and usb port (done both) and I still cannot get this error message to go away.
     
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    I had that problem once and the problem was the USB cord of the phone.You may want to check that also.
     
  13. da13371ama

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    heres a small annoying bug everybdy is probably familar with.

    desktop icons and taskbar flickers when hitthing the show desktop button.

    know how to fix it? changing your wallpaper....lol.

    i do this everytime i start up my NB.

    common MS... :mad:
    i dont see ubuntu have these gui quirks, an that a free os. lol
     
  14. GoodBytes

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    I never seen this problem...
    Maybe because I have it so that it changes background every now and then.
     
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    This is not a Windows 7 issue, may be your GPU drivers are bad.
     
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    i don't think so, every window computer i came across does it.
    comps at school, store displays, every single comp at home. lol
     
  17. coolguy

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    Not in my Vaio FZ.
     
  18. GoodBytes

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    OK, I replicated his situation (no background switch), and tested what da13371ama is saying.

    He is correct... here is how to replicate it.
    Have Windows 7 installed on a slow computer (first gen Intel Core 2 Dup are too fast.. think more Atom or an old system like my desktop (see signature), which is a mid-2005 release CPU) PLUS, you hit the "Show Desktop" button next to the time/date WHILE you have background process loading for the first time when you load your account. If you wait, or have no really big startup process, then you don't see any taskbar icon flicker.

    The desktop icon flicker occurs when you hit the "show desktop" button. This happens in any configuration, and occurs under Windows 2000, XP, Vista and Win7. Why? Because the function not only minimizes the visible windows, but also refreshes the desktop. So this flicker is by design.
     
  19. da13371ama

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    Ah, so the bug is when it doesn't flicker...
    So everytime I change my wallpaper, the bug of my icon not flickering when "showing desktop" will appear.

    Well i like it better when it doesn't flicker because it doesn't look glitchy.

    You know it probably isn't a bug, it just crappy design.

    Just look at the "Programs and Features" window (place where you uninstall programs).
    Theres a "Show preview panel" button and it doesnt do anything at all.
    Is it there for consistency? probably not because that window itself look nothing like other windows. Just look where the ribbon is place lol.

    Im betting that "Show preview panel" button doesn't belong there... but somehow someone missed it. :confused:

    I wish MS would really fine tune Windows GUI. It haves a lot of annoying quirks, bad design (cough control panel), and legacy leftovers (hdd pie graph anyone?) that leaves the OS feeling half bake. :mad:

    its a payed for OS for godsake.
    ubuntu gui feels a lot more polish than window 7...
    and thats a free OS

    its not even funny.. :(
     
  20. coolguy

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    But Windows has more hardware and software support. Why do you keep advocating Ubuntu in the Windows forum? This won't help you much.
     
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    So, because Windows haves more hardware support is should be excused for its half bake gui, bad design, etc? no way...

    Im a windows user and im just pointing out things that MS should address.
    I want MS to put more thought into its design.
    The control panel is gawd awful.

    I just think that its insane that Ubuntu have such a well though out gui than Windows. Seriously, just compare the two... :confused:

    Im hoping that when windows 8 comes out, it will be something fresh, well design, and consistent. :)
     
  22. GoodBytes

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    Assuming that that a person clicks on "Show desktop" once Windows and the account is fully loaded on a descent CPU. There is no difference in result. It works the same no mater what background settings and how many times you do it. To be clear: the task bar doesn't flicker, the icons of the task bar doesn't refresh, but the desktop does.

    [/quote]Just look at the "Programs and Features" window (place where you uninstall programs).
    Theres a "Show preview panel" button and it doesnt do anything at all.[/quote]
    I don't have this button, not even under the "organize" menu, for "Programs and Features". I have no idea what you are talking about. Ensure that your Windows is legit, fully updated, and that you did not apply any tweaks to your system via a software (probably crappy and screwed with your windows), or even play with the UI theme engine (I know some people do to use their own modified interfaces). If that last statement doesn't concern you, then you have something in your system that played with Windows files.


    Ribbon?! Oh you mean the shell bar (light blue bar). The layout is actually correct. It needs to be different else it looks like a folder with program shortcuts. The design is correct. There is a difference between consistent and being the same.
    This is inconsistency (see Vista):

    [​IMG]

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    See the difference. (bad communication within a company usually does this.. this seams to have been fixed during Win7 development. Personally, I would expect Win8 to be even more consistent even on less used options panels like the Phone and Modem panel)


    You do realize that the OS GUI is about only 10% of an Operating System...let me remind you of only the big sections and roles of an Operating system: Security, file management, memory management, device management, process management, hardware communication (ie: played sound goes the sound card), networking, network management, accounts management, permission management, program management, library (programming library) management, font management, and a lot more... (not mention all the power management system in controlling the above management system to reduce power consumption for mobile platform... heh... fun!)

    Ubuntu (or should I saw Gnome, actually) has the time to polish it's UI, because the OS is already done. They did not need to rewrite it from scratch (Vista), and optimizing it, all by inserting a lot of new feature (Win7) to make it more compelling to buy. If only Gnome/KDE and xWindows options for Windows, could work on their font rendering engine it would be nice. It doesn't look like they touched it since 1995. While Windows 7 font rendering is the best. No mater how is your text, even rotating, the text appears perfectly readable, and the space between letters/words doesn't change while it does such drawing operation.


    Every OS has it's strength and weaknesses. Mac OS already has not only the foundation but also a big part of the structure of their OS already done, and limited hardware specification model, allowing better power management, stability, and UI looks and feel (I am talking about the interface drawing when you move objects and such).

    Ubuntu, is just a distribution of Linux which is already done and maintained by more people them whole Microsoft employees, and all they need to do is some interface tweaks, GUI theme for Gnome, and extra utilities to make Linux a bit easier to use. I would expect really innovative GUI features in window management and multi-tasking.. sadly none of that is visible.

    Microsoft has to do about everything from scratch, and support the billions of possible hardware configuration, all by being very efficient in all domains. IN result, it's difficult to have everything perfect.
     
  23. GoodBytes

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    I don't understand what is wrong with it? Is because some setups missing their uninstall icons, and things like that? If so, than this is out of Microsoft hands, If the install maker utility or developers doesn't follow Microsoft specification on who to make it the uninstaller correct and have everything appears correctly in the uninstall program area, than it their problem.

    Based on previous Windows development it's always been, innovation version first, and after optimization, improvement and polishing. So you might need to wait for Win9.

    Here is why I said the above:
    - Windows 1 to 3.14 was basically a GUI for DOS.. it helped defined Microsoft. No need to talk about it.

    - Windows 95 was out, with it's ground breaking UI, task bar and more.
    - Windows 98 followed, as a more polished and improved version of Win95.

    - Windows Me.. well that was the Frankenstein of Windows 98 + Windows 2000... so let's ignore that.

    - Windows NT 3 was out presenting Microsoft first very own OS architecture
    - Windows NT 4 was an improvement of all that, optimized and new features

    - Windows 2000 was presented to be the first OS that merge home and business OS from Microsoft into one (one focus instead of 2, was a smart move). Windows 200 was still focused too much on businesses and advance networking, so did not catch on for home users.
    - Windows XP presented a better balance between both OS.

    - Vista, Vista is a modified NT3 architecture, but still the same concept wise. and everything else at 80% was reprogrammed from scratch. Something that everyone agreed was desperately needed. Took 6 years to get it out the door, and still incomplete. REMEMBER: Vista goal was not GUI, it was the background. the GUI was incomplete and bad communication did not help provide any consistency to the OS between Microsoft own applications. Lack of documentation, bad marketing, bad OEM communication and restriction (ie: have a proper PC if you want to put Vista on) no clear focus, made Vista to what we know it today, despite being actually descent and better than XP, once everything is Vista ready and Vista 64-bit is used.
    - Windows 7 was all about optimizing, improvements, consistency adjustment, clear focus, and new features. All helped by having Microsoft readjust itself as a company and simplified it's structure, and repair communication issues between department (example: Windows Media Player 12 is great, you know why? because it was merged with the Zune team.. a team who knows how to make a proper multimedia player)
     
  24. da13371ama

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    ok..
    what im talking about is this.

    [​IMG]
    as you can see, its totally out of wack.

    [​IMG]

    its not like MS cant design a good gui.
    Zune interface
    Zune software
    Windows Media Center
    Xbox Live
    WinMob 7

    all beautiful, sleek, well designed Gui

    Ms is a huge corp, Of course they can address that 10% of the os :)
     
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    you know what...
    lol, this is really funny.

    To get that "Show preview panel" button on your "Programs and Features" window....

    You have to get there through the "Computer" window.
    So click in the "Computer" icon on desktop or start menu...
    Click on "Uninstall or change a program" leading you to "Programs and Features" window.
    Bam "Show preview panel" button.

    Going to "Programs and Features" from "Control panel" will not give you the "Show preview panel."

    [​IMG]

    Now this is what I'm talking about, really weird quirks. its just plain sloppy... :confused:
     
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    I agree with you, but a description is needed for non-advance users.

    Also, your layout looks like standard files and folders. It can be confused by many users. It must provide a feel of "This is different, you are about to UNINSTALL a program." That's the problem that Microsoft face at every Windows... balancing out advance users and non-advance ones. It's hard.


    As for the preview panel option, I don't have it on any of my 3 systems (something is wrong with your Windows):
    [​IMG]

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    [EDIT]
    Ahhhh, yes that is a bug. Good catch.
     
  27. da13371ama

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    ugly legacy highlighter.
    some people actually think that those dotted lines are a features.
    it absolutly not, its left over legacy crud.

    if it is a features how do i turn them off and to never show up ever?... :mad:

    [​IMG]

    if you have the dotted lines, just restart of log off to get rid of them.

    how to reproduce the dotted lines?
    use "flip 3d" to focus on desktop and well as "Show desktop" button beside the clock.

    alternate between the two a few times and bam dotted lines. :eek:
     
  28. coolguy

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    The preview pane in the "Uninstall Programs" window worked right in Vista. It seems that MS borked it in Windows 7.

    I don't have the dotted line around any desktop icon. I did try your method.
     
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    here some more sloppy decision.

    is "presention mode"really that mind blowing that it haves to be an exlusive to win7 pro and ultimate?

    they can aleast design "moble center" to be more flexable.
    its like a bad joke.



    [​IMG]
     
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    This is mine (win7 pro):
    It's a laptop so I don't have the rotate screen feature:

    [​IMG]

    I don't get what bugs you, though... See because I don't have a tablet PC, I don't have the rotate screen square, so I am back to your situation...

    In my case, Dell decided to have it's own section.. they could have added to the list of square. I could tweak the registry to have it my way (this is where the settings are stored for the each square), and have it all nice, but I am too lazy to look into it.

    What would you suggest they change teh layout too.. there is just soo much that could be done.

    BUT, what IS A JOKE, is the help button being from XP... They did not fix it in Vista, nor Win7 (well they did not even touch it in Win7).
     
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    im on a regular laptop, not a tablet :p

    what bug me is that halfbake feeling that windows gives off due to these bad design choice and qwirks in its gui.

    I feel that if more people complain about it, MS would take notice :eek:
    and that why im here complaining, so people would be aware of these things.

    So went windows 8 ships, it wont look like a jury rig patched up looking OS but a
    something fresh and sleek. :cool:


    Its like MS never put forth the effort in to windows interface design.

    Just look at the padding of this "Options" button. the O is almost tangent to the edge.
    its just so sloppy. its the only button who text is so close to the edge.
    [​IMG]

    when you buy a laptop wouldn't you want all the keys consistent? If just one key letter was tangent to the edge, i would say that the laptop had poor quality control, craftmanship, and design.

    the same can be said for an OS.
     
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    Something's up with Aero. When I close/open windows, use Aero peek, I thought it 'shut off' transparency for a split second... ie... when opening a window, it opens instantly with no lag but then transparency turns on like a split second later.

    After applying the slow motion Aero hack, I noticed that it doesn't actually turn off transparency but actually changes to a darker shade of colour. It's annoying because it doesn't transition between the two colours, the colour just "pops" and changes.

    I took some screenshots to demonstrate. I tried reinstalling the video driver, changing themes, restarted laptop. However, if transparency is off, there's no change in colour. My buddy described having the same issue in RC but not in RTM. By the way, my copy of Windows 7 Professional is RTM, legit from MSDN.

    Before (Normal):
    [​IMG]

    After (When action is triggered):
    [​IMG]

    EDIT: Also, the only things I've changed in recent days is update Windows Live Messenger, Nokia Ovi Suite Software Updater, update for IE8 compatibility view list and update for windows 7, which dealt with revised daylight saving time.

    EDIT 2: The "problem" I'm having can be seen by observing this video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiOmu5486Og at 0:35, especially noticeable on the Libraries window.
     
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    The interface is identical to Sync Center found in the Control Panel. So there is consistency, and it's not the only panel like that. In fact, it's so consistent, that you have the useless button as well, which ONLY appears if you open it from the Control Panel. If you open it as is (ie: from the start menu search or go in system32) you don't have it, exactly like the uninstall program panel.
     
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    This might be helpful to some of you. I formatted several external 2.5 HDs to varying sizes 100GB - 640GB using Windows 7. Brands were WD, Samsung, Hitachi, Seagate, and Toshiba. No problem. BUT one, a WD 150GB Passport (I have four Passports), I couldn't format, change the driver letter or anything as everything except HELP was grayed out when i right clicked. Nothing I did made a difference. Then I remembered, I had Acronis 11 on my computer. I called it up and selected ADD A HD. Problem solved. Just FYI.
     
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    Does anyone have a fix for this task glitch when coming out of hibernation(and possibly sleep)?

    Picture #2 is when it's normal. Picture #1 is when it comes out of hibernation.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Try locking your taskbar.

    P.S: Why do you need 2 power icons? The green one and the Windows one.
     
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    i don't really pay attention to the icons. one of them come from windows, and the other from lenovo i guess.

    locking/unlocking the taskbar doesn't change anything
     
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    whenever windows starts every time i get an error " Windows has stopped working" and after 5 sec it says "Windows explorer is restarting" . I get this error after every 5-7 min. How to resolve this issue..?
     
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    Many reason can cause this problem
    - Faulty Memory (you can test your memory for free with MemTest86)
    - HDD corrupted or permanently damaged. To fix a corrupted HDD there is no magic trick, you can try Windows built-in tool (Computer > right-click on C:\ drive, and select Properties, then go to the Tools tab, on the panel that will open, and click on the button called Check Now. A panel will open. From there, check both computer and click on Start. You may need to restart your computer and let the process check for errors and try and repair them.

    After, you can check the integrity of Windows by opening the Command Prompt as true Admin ( Start > type: cmd > on the result, right-click on cmd, and select Run As Administrator). On the Command Prompt, type in: sfc /scanow, and hit Enter. Let the process finish. Once done, restart your computer and see if anything helps.
    Try checking for new Motherboard and/or SATA controller drivers (sometimes they are both together). If not, then you need to re-install Windows.


    - Malware or Virus
    - A software is doing things that explorer.exe doesn't like (maybe it installed a toolbar or something designed for XP, and it screws up Windows 7 explorer, as it doesn't work the same way at all)
     
  42. IMaPC

    IMaPC Notebook Enthusiast

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    I still have this problem...
     
  43. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    Try making it 1 px larger.
     
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