Why I don't like Windows 10

I have this problem as well. Thanks for the advice. I will try your method.

Thanks again. I will do as you say, following each one by one. I don't know if I did right, but I upgraded without formatting the C:/ so it must have been from there.





Privacy concerns and forced metro app usage aside, what exactly does Windows 10 offer that 8.1 doesn't? DX12? What uses that?

When you combine what is right now, a pointless upgrade, with all the other issues that have been talked about - it's basically solidified my decision to stay with 8.1. I'll have another look sometime before the free upgrade period expires.

Games that support DX12 supposedly optimizes gaming performance in two ways: dumping some processes from the CPU to the GPU, and in the case of OPTIMUS users, allows both the dGPU and iGPU to work in tandem. Supposedly, there is a benchmark where games that runs on DX12 runs better than games without DX12, and machines with OPTIMUS runs better than a machine of the same spec without OPTIMUS because the DX12 uses all computing power.

Then again, I think its just based on theory, and not based on real life application.

 

The dGPU and iGPU working in tandem sounds interesting, but my G751 doesn't have Optimus. In any case, I find it difficult to believe it would work flawlessly, though it would be cool as heck.

 

what is up brother Matrix. I stumbled onto your companion post at the My Digital Life forum; I realize the idiots there showed you no love, however one gentleman in particular who took part in your thread - Vladimar - dude is a riot. In his post Windows 10 is Malware, there an unforgettable lesson in conducting ones self in a room full of idiots (as well as how to get the ban hammer). Put dude's post on your bucket-list, lest they delete it soon.
*note: u may or may not appreciate trolls & troll logic - eh - Vlad the Impaler's my kind of troll though, heheh*
Macro$lap / MacroHard's W8.2 aka W10 from my point-of-view: I've 8 mthrbrd's here & I'm fit to snatch up all 8 of the free upgrades b4 the expiry date in the simple interest of re-sale value down the road; once installed / upgraded, I'll do a clean install / activation & then they're not to be used, not to be trusted, genie-in-the-bottle affair. I refuse to use it; free or not, it's filth on delivery & the next owner can deal with it all; it hasn't any wow-factor & I share everyone's deeper / deepest concerns & I'll leave it at that.

 

I got attacked heavily on MDL forums and Anandtech forums for posting this thread, it's like I insulted a member of their family or something when all I posted were valid points.

 

Beat-em all you want guy's, just please keep it a tad bit more G rated though, thanks.

 

so apparently the terms of service can be interpreted as "microsoft is renting windows to you, and its still microsoft's property. not yours".

wow, just... wow.

 

This is to be expected. Just purchasing the software does not give you rights to it. You essentially only own your key and even that has some loose interpretations.

 

I love how the core of the author's criticisms of the W10 Start Menu, and the bloated, "leaky," and convoluted mess Micro$haft have made it, mirror much of the reasoning behind why we here are turned off by the current Win10 as a whole. In other words, "The Start Menu Should be Sacred" might as well be synonymous with "The OS Should Be Sacred," and many of the author's points would apply to other W10 concerns (ie. WU, PC settings, fragmented privacy control, etc). I do like that the article provides DIY solutions for those like us, who closely follow and refuse to accept some of these unwanted changes. Yet as stated, M$ knows they'll be lost on the majority simply because they don't know about or fully understand them. But the fact that one has to purify their W10 start menu (and entire OS IMO) to capture this untainted functionality that has been widely-demanded since Win 7, reminds me of the bloatware installed on new systems by OEM/sellers. To clear that bloat in Win 7 you would simply fresh install it, but with W10 all that bloat is built into the OS at its default state ...SMH.

Some of my favorite quotes from that excellent read (Fun exercise: substitute "OS" for "Start Menu" as you read ):

Spoiler: Some Nice Quotes

"...It should have been the easiest decision Microsoft ever made to just chuck the tile system right in the trash and be done with it. They could have rolled out a beautiful Start Menu in Windows 10 that looked just like a supercharged version of the Start Menu we all knew (and missed) but instead they shoe-horned the Metro-style tile system in there."

"The fact that they stuck with the whole Internet-vomiting-into-your-Start-Menu theme despite the negative response it got in Windows 8 either means they’re greedy and want a slice of the advertising pie or they’re in such desperate need for a slice of that pie they’ve resorted to this."

"...You can put ads in search results. Fine. Ads keep the Internet free and give us access to content we can’t or do want to pay for. But ads in Windows? In the core of the personal computing experience? Furthermore those ads and suggested pages are served up by essentially mining our personal data and search queries which should be private? Unacceptable on every level."

"...And some of you probably think we need to chill out and it doesn’t matter.

It does matter. It matters because unlike us, the people who read (and even write) tech articles and change the Start Menu when we don’t like the way it looks (or what it is up to behind the scenes), there are lots of people who don’t because they don’t know how, they’re afraid to break anything, or they don’t realize what’s actually going on under the hood of their operating system."

"The Start Menu is not for news. It’s not a place to pitch us on a TV show or game. It’s not a place to gather information about us and what we’re searching for. You shouldn’t let it be that on your computer and you shouldn’t let it be that on the computers of your friends and family. The Start Menu was, and should remain, an efficient and well organized place to quickly access our applications, system settings, and documents… and if we want to use that utilitarian power to open up Microsoft Edge to search Microsoft Bing for the newest Xbox Live games, well then that’s our (and your) prerogative to invite all the search result analysis and advertisements into our lives on our own terms."

 

I think the lesson there was don't be a troll and a nuisance if you don't want to be banned.

 

Great article.
My favorite part.

I like the articles on How to geek as it is not like the other tech shill sites which butt kiss whatever new product comes out even if it is bad.

I did try the new start menu but it was so annoying and buggy. I could not pin anything on the left. Tiles I pined would not show up or vanish. Also I hate the tile interface which is why I never even looked at a Windows phone.

I installed Classic Shell and Everything by turned off crappy Cortana which slowed down the PC to a crawl at bootup and turned of the limited search bar and it is all good now.

 

Microsoft should of just hired the "classic shell" people instead of trying to reinvent the whole desktop.

 

Why I don't like Windows 10? Because it's not Windows 7. kaboom.

 

I had Windows 10 for a few days and my reliability rating doesn't make good showing...

 

TBH the RTM is a bit more stable.

 

Seriously, out of all the preview builds I've tried, this so called Final Build is the buggiest of them all.

 

That's why I didn't upgrade, beyond that brief respite at the release of Windows 7, MS never had a stable Windows release.

MS always muck it up at the last minute, even if there were a series of stable Insider builds, I would have still waited - but MS was making interface and functional changes right on through the last builds before release.

3-6 months, maybe 9 months. Then 6 more months for the performance release, that will be the time to upgrade.

But, this release is different, we need to find all the Windoze Phone Home stuff... so we can turn it all off. It may be longer, and a continual vigil going forward.

And, don't forget all the typical Nvidia/AMD follies upon a new OS release. All the 3rd party drivers and applications that need to be fixed. It will be a while before they are all done with the transition to Windows 10.

 

I heard, but had not experienced, just prior to RTM this was way worse!

 

Actually Windows 7 I had no issues with. I had no issues with the 7 Beta either, and I kept Beta on some for months after the retail launch.

 

That's because Windows 7 was made to be one of the most stable 64-Bit and 32-Bit OSes of all time. They should have named it Windows FTW instead of Windows 7 to be lost in the one after the other Micro$haft failures in the OS department.

 

Apologies if this has already been posted, but it seems that the expected "update fun" has begun...

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/11/windows-10-broken-update-endless-reboot-loop

 

Yup. it's on a few forums as well, the classic Windows updates fail to install fiasco. I don't think the clowns @ Micro$haft even test these updates, they let us test it for them:

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/th...r-Windows-10?p=1118589&viewfull=1#post1118589

 

Tsunade_Hime, you didn't think the Windows 7 release image was going to be stable either so you didn't install Windows 7 release on Lanuch day, and kept the Windows 7 Beta installed for months?

Thinking back, at my Windows 7 Launch Party, I really was expecting MS to drop another steaming pile, even though the Beta's were working fine. It really was a pleasant surprise.

I upgraded a week or so later to the Windows 7 release from Beta too

 

Classic: " Microsoft did not respond to requests for comment."

Just keep everyone in the dark. That helps matters.

 

Well win10 is an bust at the moment, I am back on Win8.1

John.

 

No I was just lazy to upgrade because it was stable (had a ton of programs/data on the machines). I worked retail at the time Windows 7 launched so I knew it was stable.

 

Oh, I forgot to mention, the day win10 was released i reported that my HP would not shut off, the screen goes black and you expect the click of the power cutting out but it does not happen and the power led stays lit, and you have to force a shutdown.

I did a google and on the HP forum a few people are having the same problem since upgrading to Win10 and their notebooks not turning off correctly.

Thanks Microsoft

John.

 

At least for me the new cumulative update worked, unlike that one.

 

Welp, now Windows 10 installed some sort of update on my computer and never woken up after after going to a black screen. Another forced reset and took a couple of minutes for it to return back to desktop.

After a week of trying my patience had finally run out on how unstable it is. It had more forced resets within a week than I ever had with my previous OS through 3 years so it's fair to say that I am now dumping Windows 10 and going back to Windows 7.

 

Windows 10 keeps installing a new ELAN touchpad driver on my laptop, even though I've disabled driver updates. It's driving my nuts because it gets ride of 1 finger scrolling and a bunch of other things.

 

I still have the Insider Preview edition in a VM. Up until the very last time I touched it (a few days after the W10 launch), it still had a bug where shutting down would given a null pointer exception.

That, and reading about the horrors Windows 10 release users are experiencing, it's embarrassing. Microsoft, you've been in the OS business for... what... 30 years almost? How the hell did you screw up Windows 10 so badly? Nevermind the privacy issues and whatnot, but your new OS can't even perform fundamental OS operations correctly? Gheez...

Obviously, I'm sticking to 7 for the foreseeable future, but now-a-days I only ever use Windows for games really. The "real work" gets done on other OSes at this point...

 

Disabling driver updates from device installation settings has no effect, the OS ignores that setting. This is very well known. The only way to get around the driver updates from WU is to actually have the latest driver from your computer's/device's manufacturer so Windows updates won't try to install what it thinks is a newer driver. Other than that, you are out of luck really for the time being, unless you wanna set your connection as a metered connection and not have any Windows updates at all.

 

Yesterday i went back with a clean install of windows 7 ultimate.... it feel so good...

I'll check out windows 10 in about 6 month to see if Microsoft has fixed the mess they did,

 

Just discovered another bug... added to the OP:

10-Adding other programs to allow/disable in Firewall Settings broken

So what if I wanna add a program to the allow or disable list in Windows 10? You can no longer do that, the list of programs is empty! Thank you Micro$h4ft

 

@Matrix Leader Take a look on my post #60... http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...alienware-owners.779449/page-60#post-10066352

 

Just a heads up, facebook came back saying my password came up on a stolen list. This is the same password used for facebook and my local PC for 15+ years. Well W10 as a user is the only new instance of using password this password when I converted it to the M$ one. Secure my butt..............

 

I'm not sure if I am allowed to, but i'll post these.

http://localghost.org/posts/a-traffic-analysis-of-windows-10

http://boingboing.net/2015/08/14/even-when-you-turn-on-win-10.html

http://arstechnica.co.uk/informatio...ndows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/


For whatever reasons, windows 10 is freaking me out to no end.

I want DX12, but I don't want to trade all my privacy, everything, just to have DX12.

 

Wow, it just keeps getting worse and scarier doesn't it....

More nonsense from Microsoft the NSA right hand. More limiting your control of the apps and system that you paid for(its the same key you used to buy their OS(7 or 8))

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonk...anges/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix

@Mr. Fox @TANWare @Papusan

 

Apps are just another log on the fire but TBH I would expect those, like Android Apps, to auto update.

 

Most of them are worthless trash bloatware anyway. I say kill all the apps and the Windows Store and be done with that garbage. If I wanted apps I would be wasting my time on a smartphone playing Angry Birds instead of using a beast.

 

All them Metro apps are worthless IMHO, they are phone apps ported to PC versions.

 

Agreed, but M$ wants to try and make some money off them. That is fine by me, just do not force them on us!

 

Does windows 8.1 have such kind of nonsense.?

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I would have to ask, in what respect?

 

All that privacy intrusive , data mining stuff that windows 10 now does. Does win8.1 do any of that kind of bull feces?

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For the slight reduction in speed the features seem to be worth it. Particularly I like Disc Optimize with the SSD. I have a few other concerns that seem more important than optimizations.

 

Very well written . I just reverted back to 8.1 this morning for most of the same reasons . Win 10 was really starting to piss me off .

 

I wonder how much Mac OS talks to apple?

 

Same here! I cancelled all my W10 confirmations and i'm sticking with Windows 7 and 8.1 Pro. Lesson learned, sometimes free isn't always better.

 

The problem here is it takes quite a few people actually using W10 to come across all of the problems. This number of users will make W10 seem to at first be a huge success to market share. Just as it will take a large number of users to monitor changes, if any.

The other issue is there are so many policy and procedural changes needed here we really need a new version at this point. The big problem being if within the same version they can change the policies that drastically then what is to prevent a drastic reversion of the changes or even worst?

 

and now Windows 10 has the right to snoop on behalf of Microsoft and deletes data as it pleases! (especially pirate stuffs).

And think for a moment that in the future, people actually PAY for such kind of OS! What incredible bull feces!