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    Windows 10 - Bloatware Free Edition

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Apr 30, 2017.

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    The first time I logged on to Papusan's computer last year, guess what he was using? Kaspersky Internet Security [​IMG]! LOL! :rolleyes: :eek:
     
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    Much longer since then bru. I got it very cheap, but I do not have kaspersky anymore now. I did not notice much that Kaspersky was in the background when I had it. Worked just fine. Did not use much resources. But will not pay for a new one.
     
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    When someone tells me they are done with Windows and are switching to linux......I go.......

    [​IMG]
     
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    I'd do that immediately if Linux could meet my needs as an OS. I love Linux Mint, but I don't love the lack of software that I enjoy/want/need. If all I did was web surf, email and play a tiny sample of games available for Linux it would be far and away the superior choice, because at the end of the day I truly hate Windows 10. Mac OSX... pretty much the same issue as Linux for me on top of being coupled with sucky anemic Apple hardware for wimps. Isn't it special choosing an OS based on it being the least of all evils instead of choosing one that is actually awesome?
     
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    @Mr. Fox: You could use Linux ( I use Xubuntu 16) alongside Windows 10, for browsing I prefer Linux because it just works, NO interference from AV, no nagware updates etc.
    Though for document preparation, gaming I use Windows 10.
     
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    Yes, I have done this off and on for many years. I was dual booting Linux with Windows 7 on the Tornado F5. I use the F key to bring up the boot selection menu and select the OS I want to boot. I have Linux Mint install on one of my spare M.2 drives. I need to get a TB3 enclosure for it to use it as a portable OS and boot from TB3/USB 3.1 Type C port. Running Linux in multi-boot with Windows is awesome. I also like web browsing with Linux better than Windows.

    I would need to triple boot to do everything the right way. My preferred OS is Windows 7. I only "need" Windows 10 for Fire Strike (the one benchmark that Windows 10 does better than Windows 7), Time Spy (since the Redmond Mafia is using DX12 as a shiny object to encourage the upgrades to Windows 10) and to play the Windows 10 Nazi Store-only release of Gears of War 4 and Gears of War Ultimate Edition. Other than those 3 things, there would be no reason for me to ever bother with booting Windows 10. Windows 7 does literally everything else better.
     
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    The last time I tried Linux..... it was a nice clean start. then when it came to the software, I had to start finding alternatives for everything that I did on Windows and it was very tedious......then I was like....WTF am I doing here? then went back straight to Windows.....not worth the hassle IMO and it doesn't have everything that I need. certainly not the benchmarks and whatnot. Now you know I don't play games, but I have them installed, just in case I was bored out of my mind and wanted to. I like the option of being able to do whatever I want anytime I want.
     
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    This is my exact situation.. That's why i'm not so sure about upgrading my turdbook's GPU to 1000 series.
     
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    Would I see any gains Vs using CCleaner uninstaller to uninstall all windows apps and O&O Shutup10 to stop Cortana, Telemetry ... etc.
    ?

    Cuz that's what I am doing and I don't have any problems.
     
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    not really, if they're not there, they're not there. This ISO makes it easier to have a clean OS out of the box rather than having to do 10s of tweaks / uninstallations of things

    I just love it this way that I don't even have the Windows Restore Tab in my system properties, and no traces of Cortana or Windows Defender or Microsoft Edge or Internet Explorer, HomeGroup, they're not even there
     
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    Then next clean installation I will do it through this ISO. Gratitude.
     
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    Will be more and more popular Create custom Windows 10 installations with MSMG Toolkit - Ghacks.net
    And the Micro$haft Morons probably wonder why people will do this against their Cartoon colored OS :rolleyes:

    Btw. More Trash from the REDMOND camp.
    "The OS effectively locks down the computer into a more secure environment by restricting it from installing anything outside of the Windows app store." Will Redmond's new BABY TOY OS be modified as well? :rolleyes:
     
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    @Phoenix : There are lot of improvements now to Linux, only thing is latest hardware like Skylake/Kabylake, Maxwell/Pascal to be performing at its peak requires you to disable secure boot. An alternative to Store app on Linux/Ubuntu/Mint is to install Synaptic Package Manager and install everything from firmwares, games, uninstall older kernels and lot more with that neat app. Have you tried running your Windows Apps or desktop apps in Wine? I am perfectly sure some apps don't play nice with WINE.
     
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    anyway could u please split the unit..i mean we don't have to download two-in-one OS..create one for home and one for Pro...this is my suggestion...thanks...
     
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    no sir. you don't understand how time consuming it is.

    Also, a new version will be uploaded soon. Please standby as it contains integration of the .NET Framework 3.5, Windows 7 Calculator, DirectX 9.0
     
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    See latest .Net Framework in software Updates :cool:
     
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    That's already in the Creators update :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
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    I know :D Was too fast :p
     
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    Just signed up to say Thanks. Came from Majorgeeks. When the new version is done, could you include a MD5 checksum. A torrent would also be nice.
    Going to give it a shot in VirtualBox. Good Luck
     
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    Actually @Phoenix you can use NTLite to export one edition of W10, but resulting OS size will be similar to stock Windows 10 ISO that contains both images of Home and Pro editions. I think the OS size would decrease by a gigabyte when one edition is removed.
     
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    oooooh gonna wait for this so I can setup my old laptop for the g/f.

    She's gonna love it!
     
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    4 hours wasted yesterday, after removing all the junk, I accidentally removed Hyper-V from the Pro Edition, I will start from scratch now :(
     
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    Aww no.

    we appreciate your efforts though. If that's any consolation?

    people who spent their last dime on getting the best hardware configuration without getting divorced from their partner... that's who :oops:

    I'll look at upgrading soon now that I can see the differences between the two versions. It's just not on top of my priority right now.
     
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    To me, having PRO is a MUST. The ability to tweak small things using the Group Policy Editor which is only available in Pro is priceless although NOT a must now that we have this bloatware free ISO
     
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    See if you can get Windows 10 Pro cheap from Kinguin: https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/
     
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    Mr. Fox says it is but I didn't try it myself.......please feel free to:

    [​IMG]

    Uploading the new ISO now. Going to the Gym while this is uploading it's a 6GB ISO :rolleyes:

    Check the OP to see the new stuff that I added
     
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    Kinguin website has been up for several years. If something was wrong, Ithink it would been closed long time ago.
     
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    What`s with this £4.50 optional charge so you don't get invalid or duplicate keys o_O on Kinguin

    John.
     
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    If you get ripped off by some of the sellers. Read the FAQ And About Kinguin
     
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    Is it safe to assume if a person doesn't want OneDrive/Xbox they can still be uninstalled using CCleaner?

    Thanks for your efforts!
     
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    If you uninstall Xbox, then Game mode won't work properly but you can disable OneDrive using O&O Shutup10

    New ISO being uploaded at the moment guys, excuse me, I forgot to remove Cortana from the Pro edition so I recreated the ISO.

    Upload in progress. Please standby @Fire_Child22
     
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    Hi guys,

    Is this worth installing? Or should I just wait for the update via Windows just thinking about the ball ache having to reinstall everything
     
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    If you want to get rid of all the crap that MS thinks we need, then I'd say yes.

    I made my own ISO (probably the same method as Phoenix), and it does make the post install a whole lot easier - all the junk is gone, so no need to disable it. I agree it is a pain to do a clean install all over again, but I was planning to do so when the CU was released anyways
     
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    Be smart.....be like Tokeb CDN [​IMG]
     
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    Thanks for the input and it's tempting to reinstall and go from there.

    Anyway to reduce the pain of clean install like save settings? Could I keep my data for example?
     
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    We might want to see if @Phoenix can determine if the User State Migration Tool can easily be used by NBR readers and incorporated alongside his world famous custom Windows 10 "distro". Using USMT64 (part of Windows AIK). Unless he has a better idea. This would be a great feature enhancement. :vbthumbsup:

    Source PC:
    (from elevated command prompt)
    cd \USMT64
    scanstate.exe X:\example /o /c /i:miguser.xml /i:migapp.xml /i:<custom.xml>

    Target PC
    (from elevated command prompt)
    cd \USMT64
    loadstate.exe X:\example /c /lac /i:miguser.xml /i:migapp.xml /i:<custom.xml>

    X is my backup drive in this example. It creates a directory called example\ where the backup of the settings and files go. You can open and compare the freebie config files MigApp.xml versus MigDocs.xml do. You can also write a custom file if the freebie files don't cover your exotic needs.

    It has a :eek: /hardlink option, if you are brave, which allows you to do a :eek: clean install & format "around" your data. It's pretty cool, but /hardlink is dangerous without a trusted offline backup. I find, if you are in a hurry, using a USB 3.0 SSD or a fast network NAS is pretty quick. USB flash drives (pen drives) are SLOW.

    Prerequisites (for initial base install):
    • Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0
    • MSXML 6 SP1
    • Windows AIK 8 requires Microsoft Windows .NET Framework 4.

    There are a bunch of "quick 10 minute" videos that show USMT (part of Windows AIK and Windows MDT). We use it in corporate and it works fast. I also use it for the home users that I support. MDT is more automation for lite-touch installs but the USMT64 tool from AIK is really all you need since we aren't scripting this from start to finish like a mega-corp would.

    You only do the install to get the ~4MB "USMT64\" directory under D:\Program Files\Windows AIK\". The rest is "bloat" to us. Phoenix could just copy off USMT64 and uninstall WAIK and never reinstall it again.

    Ask Me Anything

     
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    I have created a Windows 10 Clean Install Video for you guys. It consists of 4 parts so right now I am in the process of combining those videos into 1, then I will upload it to YouTube [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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    The Windows 10 Clean Installation Guide will be processed within the next 120 minutes on YouTube on the below link:

     
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    Mate,

    This is a momentous task you have undertaken.

    Surely people who do this will appreciate the time it takes to simply do the instillation, let alone make a custom ISO for both HOME and PRO, make a video, edit it, upload it and do a how to guide... it simply is such a huge time consuming task.

    It's people like you that really make a community amazing.

    So glad I discovered this site and had the opportunity to receive your personal help and in addition to discovering all the wonderful guides and posts you provided.

    It's a kind of service you can't pay for. Your enthusiasm for technology and genuine want to help people enjoy their toys is a godsend.

    You Sir deserve all the likes and reps for your continuous commitment to this community.

    Thank you.
     
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    It is people like you, who always motivate me to keep doing this. Thank you so much for your kind comments and for appreciating all the details of what I do.

    Cheers
     
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    This link which is in the OP works: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_T913HicSeOekJUMnFJSENXSlE

    I removed the MajorGeeks link for now as they are having uploading that 6 GB ISO :rolleyes:
     
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    Maybe Mr. @Phoenix compressed the file from WIM to ESD so that everyone with limited bandwidth may download the ISO.
     
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    no bro, nothing compressed. Grabbed the ISO, edited both editions (Home/Pro) by removing stuff we don't need and integrating .NET Framework 3.5 and DirectX 9.0 and the Windows 7 Calculator, then recompiled the ISO.
     
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    Remove links in Op if it does not work!! Same for MajorGeeks Bruh. Dang, my download speed suck !!!! I do not loook on the size. Started download. Dang ... Only 1.4GB and I deleted. Fix your Steelseries keyboard bruh. Maybe lag as you dont fixed your mess :vbbiggrin:

    upload_2017-5-4_11-15-20.png
     
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    now it works Timothy told me :rolleyes:

    Windows 10 Creators Update Bloatware Free Edition 3.0

    Note: After installation, open Reg Edit, then click edit, then find, now type: sechealth

    let it search for all the entries, right click on each one, and choose DELETE, then hit F3 to find the next entry, and so forth, until no entries are found.

    One of the entries won't allow you to delete it, simply right click on it, choose Permissions, then click on Administrators and give it full control, then try to delete it again.

    The reason we want to delete these entries is since we removed Windows Defender, we need to delete all these entries manually otherwise Windows will try to launch the Security Center, not find it, and thus throw in background errors in the Event Viewer.

    @Mr. Fox
     
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    Is there anyway around an access denied error when trying to change permissions for the one entry?
     
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