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    Windows 10 1903

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 30, 2019.

  1. 0lok

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    I assume before you had fast boot on. Woth Ultramales guide it is off as fastboot causes headaches.
     
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    Its probably have to do with Startup delay on apps which delay launching of any startup apps before login. You can revert it back if needed.
     
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    thanks olok and vasuddev.
     
  4. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    You should NOT be touching snakeoil optimizers such as registry defragmenters at all!

    Do you seriously think that defragging a few KB of a registry file with today's fast computers most of which have SSDs is really going to improve your performance? The only thing it *can*" do is corrupt your registry!

    Bad Tweaks

    But hey, if it makes you feel better, go ahead and defrag your registry and have a Placebo Milkshake to go with it
     
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    Registry defrag never defrags anything instead it re-creates new files. I tested Wise Reg cleaner and Tweaking.com's registry compressor. Both do the same job i.e. debloat registry w/o adding or deleting anything.
    Wise Reg cleaner saves backup files as .rhk and tweaking/com's tool uses .bak file extensions. The thing is, once everything is proper you can delete them along with .regtrans-ms, .blf, .log1 and .log2 for effective cleanup and super clean registry. Its found in C:\Windows\system32\config.
    If you are okay with fiddling with more advanced cleaning, you can delete everything inside TxR folder [Very advanced and more patience is needed to remove these because removal of OS files will corrupt the whole installation.
    C:\Users\"Usr Name"\ NTUser.dat.log1,NTUser.dat.log2 along with blf and regtrans-ms & in C:/Users/Default/ NTUser.dat.log1,NTUser.dat.log2 along with blf and regtrans-ms.]

    Note: Don't delete NTUser.pol and ini files.
     
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  6. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    @raptorddd

    I advise you NOT to listen to Vasudev and just leave the registry the heck alone, you will NOT gain any speed and you are very likely to corrupt your registry / OS.
     
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    @raptorddd IF AIN'T BROKE DONT FIX IT... Don't give yourself a headache.. It's not worth it corrupting the registry in your OS.. Hope this helps..
     
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    Per Microsoft support, they say the same thing. They even call registry defrag programs “snake oil”. Leave the registry alone, the registry after Windows 95 is designed in such a way that it ignores wasted entries. You can create more problems by trying to defrag the registry and really won’t gain anything.
     
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    Wow! nice :D .. more adventures for me.. keep them coming! :vbthumbsup: never knew that :) time to say... :hi: to Win10 :D gonna test those!
     
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    Ok, next time I'll post some detailed guide to removal of ghost keys from regedit.exe
    Use Linux or WinPE for best results otherwise Windows 10 starts to Nag saying its a System File and other BS.
    If you see NTUsr.xx please note its NTUser.xx because I have an habit to hit Tab for auto completion on linux.
     
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    yeah ill just leave it as it is. thanks guys
    idk but pretty sure in win7 and xp when ever i did clean and defrag registry with program say boot and shut down were faster. if a pc took like 10 seconds to shut down after defrag it would take 3 seconds. been doing it for years.
    i just switched on windows 10 like less than a month.
    but il just leave as it is. clean installed win10 5 times when 1903 so am a bit stressed to mess with it.
     
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    For all the attempts from Microsoft to screw up Windows 10, it's a pretty advanced operating system. And since it's been turned into a service, Windows 10 is designed to handle things automatically, including updates and AV scans. When someone tries to override things such as the registry it can cause more problems than it's worth. I'm not saying you CAN'T mess with the Registry is that things can go horribly wrong if you change or delete the wrong DWORD or entry.
     
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    That's true because when it re-create the files and older regback files are deleted and you end up with ~150-200MB of newer optimised reg entries in the db that speeds up startup and shutdown. After few months or years the size gets larger and larger crossing 300MB which causes sluggish OS performance. I think W10 can now handle almost huge reg db unlike older versions.
     
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    Yes... Windows 10 Babysitter Edition.
     
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    I'm still hoping that one day, Microsoft will provide an update that will allow the 1903 update to install. There was mention of the Servicing Stack updates, but, so far, the only ones I can find are already installed. Three more locked attempts to install the update today. I tried uninstalling devices, and disabling driver signing (not sure the latter actually stayed in effect.

    Very frustrating - especially since Windows update keeps offering the update.
     
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    On my factory image of my Alienware Area-51m which is 1809, the update didn't work so what I did was, I used the Media Creation tool to create a Windows 10 USB Installer, then ran the setup from there and chose upgrade OS, worked liked a charm. After the update was done, I went to PC Settings > System > Storage > Configure Storage Sense or run it now

    then I ticked the box at the end to delete the previous installation of Windows, that got rid of the Windows.old folder and freed up all the space taken by the previous OS
     
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    No more clean install due you need Dell’s awful created factory OS image? o_O

    You can’t wipe out everything and start clean from the beginning?

    A massive change vs. what you preferred before.
     
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    am getting error installing update.

    2019-06 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1903 for x64-based Systems (KB4503293) - Error 0x800f081f
     
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    That's the error which prevents any cumulative updates to be applied. Its caused by faulty Dism servicing component.
     
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    Hello there,
    On the Windows 10 May 2019 build, I have observed that network speeds for applications that are not focused, say, Steam, in the background, or Dukto in the background, get their network speeds cut down massively.
    Case in point: With Steam in the background, minimized or overlapped by a window (of any application) in focus, its' download speeds plummet to below half of what it is when Steam is focused (by clicking on it).
    Is this a new feature, or a bug? Can this behavior be reverted to what it was in previous Windows builds?
     
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    Do you have a Killer Network card in your system?
     
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    Even worse.
    Asus Gamefirst V. The abomination is apparently installed on current generation Asus laptops, such as my Zephyrus M.
    Uninstalling it fixed it.
    Thanks for the heads up :)
     
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    Same here man, as soon as I install Windows and go online, nothing work, Office does't activate saying there is no internet, Windows does not activate, the Microsoft Store says there is no internet connectivity, the VPN is super slow, until I disable the Killer Network Service, Killer Bandwidth Control Service, xTend Services, everything comes back to life after a reboot.

    Killer's Control Center and all its bandwidth priority BS is the worst thing that could ever happen to a laptop! Imagine the millions of clueless users out there who think their brand new X laptop that they bought has issues or slow internet or worse no internet and have no clue what could be behind this.

    Killer Networking ought to seriously stop this BS of being auto installed with Windows updates and let the user decide whether they want their crapware or not.
     
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    I downloaded the Upgrade to USB and got the "you cannot upgrade with USB connected". Will give your approach, using the full Win 10 USB a try. Fingers crossed.
     
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    I only see that error if I have USB storage devices connected other than the Windows installation media (such as a second thumb drive or an external USB HDD). If I disconnect all USB storage devices except for the installation media, the error goes away. This is a known issue if that is what you are experiencing. Windows is trying to prevent the boot manager from being installed on the wrong drive in error.
     
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    There were no other USB devices attached other than the USB with the setup files. So, I tried booting from the USB - it booted, ran, then "you cannot upgrade from boot media". So, I tried starting up, and running the setup program from the USB drive: "Your hardware is not ready for 1903 because you have a USB drive attached". So, I moved all of the files from the USB to a directory on the local drive. Setup ran, and locked at the same point it has for the last 15 times, with error message 0xc1900101 code 0x30017, "Failed in First Boot with error during boot operation". This really sucks.

    Edit: This morning, I discovered that Windows Update had downloaded the 1903 update yet again, installed it, and was ready for restart. So, I restarted, and it again locked in the same place, with the same helpful error message: 0xc 1900101. I should have anticipated this outcome. :)
     
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    You should copy ISO from USB to HDD and then restart Setup.exe
     
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    Well, while that is a bunch of unnecessarily frustrating crap to deal with, and you shouldn't have to, the silver lining is that you're not missing anything. Windows 10 1903 sucks.
     
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    Sorry my note was unclear. That is exactly what I did - copied the ISO from the USB to a local SSD, and ran the setup.exe from there. It hung in exactly the same place it always has, in the first boot into Safe mode. BTW, I did verify that Safe mode is accessible on this machine, when I was checking for extraneous drivers.. This morning was unexpected - I had not planned to try again unless I was able to change something that could improve chances of success. So far, no joy. :(

    J
     
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    tried all day today with no luck. tried all suggestions
    run troubleshooter
    2command prompt about systemhealth

    re installed netframework 3.5
    run
    sfc /scannow

    stop windows update and delete folders.

    ect.

    in wupdates i get this now.

    KB4503293

    Failed to install on ‎6/‎13/‎2019 - 0x8024200d

    should i leave it like this.?
     
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    KB4503293 appears to be an update for 1903, so if 1903 has not installed, it will not install, i.e., probably not compatible with 1809.
     
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    That's the reason I clean installed v1809 few weeks ago.
     
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    am on 1903 all previous updates worked fine.
    really mmmm i just downloaded 60GB file wich took me a complete day to download...will a repair work here.?

    now am also having a problem with bluetooth not receiving or sending files. already search and could not fix it.
     
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    Well... I am forced to join here. So, anyone else got 1903 shoved down their throat as if windows was trying to hide 1809? I do not have windows update disabled or crippled cause I like to get security updates and defender definitions automatically (yep I use that cancer stuff), but it still shocked me when mid-game a pop up appeared that my pc wanted to restart to finish installing a new feature update! Thank god all went well in my case (I did finish my game before choosing to reboot). Everything seems to work... better than on 1809. But did I want it forced on me? No. Sadly complaining to micro**** won't change anything. So I was wondering, is this something normal? Cause I was on 1809 just like for a month which installed only after manually clicking "check updates" - and this one just got kinda shoved in my backside without a warning.

    PS. the bf still runs 1803 and he did not receive any forced updates. Neither did our laptop on 1803. Only my pc which was 1809 got it forced for now.
     
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    https://www.ghacks.net/2019/06/12/c...anymore-on-windows-8-or-10-thats-intentional/
    You can download standalone patches. As well download Win defender definitions without having the Win update open as a wide door.
     
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    You have to do repair install everytime on 1903 which i don't like and it's time consuming.
     
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    New Intel microcode update for 1803 and 1809 for protection against “speculative execution side-channel attacks” (for other versions it was released on previous month):
    1903: KB4497165
    1809: KB4494174
    1803: KB4494451
     
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    FYI - after more than 15 attempts to update to 1903, I have paused at 1809 for now. I left a message for Gigabyte to see if they have any suggestions. I also had an initial call with Microsoft yesterday - tech cleaned up some files, listened to my story, and downloaded a new ISO for me to try (it failed in the same place). I called again today, and spoke to a second level person, who spent about 40 minutes gathering information from my computer. He seemed to understand the problem, without having a clear answer. He said he would take the data he gathered and discuss with the engineering team - and get back to me in next couple of days. I will let you know what happens.

    Joe
     
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    I doubt they would do anything other than wasting your time... :oops:
     
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    Installing new Microcode for 1903 fixed my wacky latency issues. System is more consistent, lower avg latency, and less spikes, and what spikes I do get are less severe.
     
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    running the 1903 media creation tool now downloads new ESDs containing build 18362.175 (ex. 18362.175.190612-0046.19h1_release_svc_refresh_CLIENTCONSUMER_RET_x64FRE_en-us.esd and 18362.175.190612-0046.19h1_release_svc_refresh_CLIENTCONSUMER_RET_x86FRE_en-us.esd).

    just run the 1903 MCT and get all the links from the updated products.xml file

    and MSDN subscribers should also be getting new 1903 ISOs containing the June 2019 updates today.
     
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    Update Intel MEI FW to latest if possible.
     
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    Microsoft Explains Why Some People Can't Install Windows 10 May 2019
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nd-announcements.826887/page-15#post-10926800

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    Windows 10 V1903: Nvidia graphics card raises bug 43 on Sandybridge systems
    Published on June 26, 2019 by Günter Born
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    [ English ] If you run the Windows 10 May 2019 Update (version 1903) on systems with Sandybridge CPUs, and you are using an Nvidia graphics card, you may experience problems, especially with the driver installation for the graphics card. The error code 43 is displayed in Device Manager.
     
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    I've integrated DX and VC runtimes from the start. Just talked with abbodi from MDL, it seems removal of system components breaks 1903 windows. So, for those who are trying to use custom OS w/o bloatware use stock OS to upgrade or clean install.
     
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