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    Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019/2021

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jun 7, 2020.

  1. hertzian56

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    That's actually pretty cool especially the ACod section almost a constant 15fps improvement wow. Applies to me since that's usually the type of games I play that I want a boost from with this quad i5. I'm going to post that video in my thread for the gateway with the callout @Clamibot thanks! I'll certainly be investigating the liteOS version there too but I've got a LTSC key already.
     
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    When you re-install already used/activated Win 10 Home cancer it will automatically activate when you connect to the web. No extra steps should be needed. Just don't punch in the key when you re-install your Home OS a second time.
     
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    Hi,

    all links are not usable. Can you reupload the windows LTSC?
     
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    Google was giving me crap about sharing the ISO from my Google Drive. Apparently, it caused an inordinate amount of traffic. I put it up on MEGA not long ago.

    Get it here instead. @Spartan@HIDevolution can update his post with the new link as well.
     
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  5. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Even Mega.NZ will take it down soon when they discover it. No site on the entire internet allows sharing of this ISO it seems so grab it while you can people.
     
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    Seems like there is some collusion going on here to keep us from getting an awesome OS.

    Either that or LTSC is popular enough that it genuinely creates a lot of traffic.

    Regardless, we'll keep posting links so people can continue to get the best verison of Windows 10.
     
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    When the Digi-Nazi Imperial StormTroopers send a cease and desist order or begin making threats of draconian abuses of power supported by misinterpreted distortions of the law it tends to get the attention of anyone that might be adversely affected financially. The threats and sword rattling require no merit when the party being attacked is faced with having to waste gobs of time and money defending against frivolous litigation.
     
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    Hi Guys!

    When you follow the windows 10 clean installation steps, won’t you skip a number of steps because the bloatware is already removed from LTSC 2019?

    Also, were the settings options the same on LSTC 2019? I wasn’t able to find all the same settings as you see in @Spartan@HIDevolution Win 10 Pro Clean Install instructions.
     
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    Yes, you can skip some steps. As for settings, if you mean the settings during installation, you'll get the same privacy options that you can enable or disable. If you mean the settings in the Windows settings app, those are all the same.
     
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    Thanks @Clamibot. I noticed that LTSC 2019 doesn’t have Windows Defender under setting/Update and Security. However, when I ran AutoRuns I still see Windows Defender running in the background. Anyone seen this before?

    Thanks again,
    Jimmy
     

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    It does have Defender. Where did you download your ISO from?
     
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    Hi @Spartan@HIDevolution

    I have used the copy from my company. Everyone gets a copy and key so just started working on the clean install. It was interesting that it didn’t show up in Update and Security but in showed up in AutoRuns.
     
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    I have used the copy from my company. Everyone gets a copy and key so just started working on the clean install. It was interesting that it didn’t show up in Update and Security but in showed up in AutoRuns.[/QUOTE]
    The ISO coming from a company does not mean it's genuine/untouched. For all you know it might be a modified ISO as the original Windows 10 LTSC does have Windows Defender.
     
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    The ISO coming from a company does not mean it's genuine/untouched. For all you know it might be a modified ISO as the original Windows 10 LTSC does have Windows Defender.[/QUOTE]

    Hi @Spartan@HIDevolution

    Maybe I should have been clearer. The download came from Microsoft Volume Center.
     
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    That is where I got my first LTSC ISO as well. And, LTSB before that.

    "Defender" is also part of the Windows Firewall, so even if you disable Defender AV to run something better like ESET NOD32 you will still have that component of the Windows Firewall.
     
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    Hi, @Mr. Fox!

    Thanks for the clarification. So basically just disable the Firewall in Defender and add my antivirus software?
     
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    I think most 3rd party antivirus software will automatically disable Defender. But you can certainly disable it if you want to do it manually. You can leave the firewall enabled unless you have a security suite that includes its own firewall.

    I don't run antivirus software on most of my systems and I disable Defender as well. But I leave the firewall enabled.
     
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    Okay got it. Thanks! @Mr. Fox. I’ll try this.
     
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    If we are using LTSC 2019 would we need O&O shut up to stop updates? Or would it mainly be useful to disable telemetry services of Windows 10?
     
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    Both. Also use other utilities to block updates and not rely only on O&O. Use WUB, WPD, WinAero Tweaker, or all three.
     
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    For people that want to check if their ISO is Genuine Windows and Office Genuine ISO Verifier 9.8.18.21
    Yeah, you can't trust Microsoft... http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/page-1087#post-10980641
     
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    Even after slimming it down, and giving the pig a face lift, I still hate it.
    Maybe we need this.
     
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    Thanks @Papusan.

    I hope this doesn’t come off as a dumb question but I have to ask. I saw the following in the “Clean Install Group Policy Editor” for disable and enabling rules:

    - Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Search > Do not allow web search = Enabled

    - Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Search > Don't search the web or display web results in Search = Enabled

    Does this mean we won’t be able to use Google and Firefox for search and search if we enable these rules?

    After all this work I’m asking myself is the LSTC 2019 even helpful. :twitchy:
     
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    Hey bro. Long time no see. Welcome back. Where have been hiding?
     
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    No. What it means is when you use Windows Search or Cortana the digi-slut to search for files and folders on your computer it won't be stupid and give you internet search results.

    You can still do a proper search of the web from a browser.
     
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    @Mr. Fox, that makes sense now. Sheesh, it least somebody knows.
    Thanks again!
     
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    Example, before knowing about this rule. I typed CCleaner in file explorer's search to try to locate a recent ccleaner update that I downloaded. It showed me the file but also showed me web search results from bing.com :rolleyes:
     
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    Running multiple utilities like this won't cause any problems, like stepping on each others toes (sort of like trying to run more than one AV)?
     
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    No [​IMG]
     
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    I have not had any issues.

    It is worth noting that all of them change settings to Services and Registry keys. None of them run in the background or consume system resources like antivirus and security applications.
     
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    I was wondering more along the lines of if I used, say O&O to disable something, and then followed up using WPD to disable the same thing, if it wouldn't inadvertently be re-enabled.
     
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    No, it should be fine. One will simply reapply the same setting already applied by another.
     
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    Hi Guys!

    First, I want to say thank you for all the research and help because y’all have done a detailed and thorough job.Truly awesome.

    As I read @Token CDN concerns it brought another question to mind.

    Why can’t we manually do what tools like O & O Shut Up are doing. Aren’t all the features in the OS we are trying to disable located in the settings, group editor, registry files?

    I normally like to know, what affects what, etc. Also if something should happen to these tools we are screwed.

    I mean we doing a lot work to secure our computers anyway. Just a thought. Would love to hear your thoughts...
     
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    I think so but I think you'd have to edit the registry which is a pain and not so easy to even find what needed changing, maybe even have to do some permissions work even if you're the so called administrator. I'm pretty sure a lot of the stuff would be hidden default as well, big mess. Your big brother M$ thinks you shouldn't be allowed to modify what you paid for. These simple 3rd party apps just save time and frustration and I doubt they would ever go away.

    Also if you notice a lot of slick/pretty looking bloat was added to the various settings over top of what most of us were used to using default in win7 etc For instance the display settings to get to the meaty settings you have to click on advanced settings, then adapter settings etc to get to where you can do detailed changes. The menus and settings are a mess in Win10 to where you really have to either use the search to find them, if it even can, and/or go online for non-M$ help. M$ just wants "My Computer" to be "This PC" you're renting from them, and they sell your info too, my two cents.
     
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    Wow, am very happy someone does this big job, me not having to stay up at night, although am liking fiddling with the registry. Not to speak of keeping track of what's done and not. And when wanting some temporary on-off's, having to dig in the registry each time = massive pain compared to clicking some switches in O&O.

    But everyone is different, some may want to keep a some cows instead of getting milk in the shop :O)
     
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    Why can’t we manually do what tools l[/QUOTE]
    Hi, @6730b!

    I was curious about the process because O&O Shut Up only manages specific things and the lion’s share we have to manually change anyway per the instructions provided.
     
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    ahh you know...life :) Thanks bro!
     
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    There are several hundreds tweaks. They can't cover all. And there is a reason you should use more than one app to stop Microsofts madness.... None is able to remember all tweaks. And Microsoft enjoy change things as the time go. Be happy we have some companies that try make the OS more edible :)

    MajorGeeks Windows Tweaks contains 205 registry, PowerShell, Visual Basic, and batch files to enable tweaks and hidden features in Windows 10, 8, and 7 for any skill level.
     
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    This fits nicely in this thread, too.
    Windoze 10 Pro Cancer Edition Windows 10 LTSC S.K. Edition
    WOSXPro.JPG W10LTSCmod.JPG
     
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    I'm really wanting to wipe this win10 home preinstall after seeing that, just get so lazy since it works fine for anything I need. Did they test win10 home?
     
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    Hi guys! I finished all of the @Spartan@HIDevolution, @Mr. Fox, @Papusan ’s recommendations. Thanks again guys for all your hard work.

    I have one question, If I used Group Policy to set the security to 0 after enabling Telemetry do I still need to delete dmwappushsvc and diagtrack with code? I’m using LTSC 2019.
     
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    Wow and i thought upgrading to pro would help solve things somewhat and having less bloatware because business users most of it useless.

    Yeah same here but i am forced to upgrade to 2009 (20H2) in order to continue to receive updates and i mind well start from scratch too because of the major changes from 1909. I dont know when im going to do it though
     
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    Pro is better than Home for any version of Windows. It is not less bloated, but it has configuration options that help you take control of things.
     
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    I don't want updates, have them turned off indefinitely but I do want the less bloat, snappier for this budget i5 cpu. it just takes so much time effort to setup again all the programs, all the custom settings, get all my savegames backed up and resetup, reinstall gpu drivers, reconfigure web browsers.... it won't take more than an afternoon really but it's not my fav thing to do.
     
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    Smart man. They tend to do more harm than good.
     
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    Anyone have any info on the "N" version of ltsc 1809? From what I gather on the net it just doesn't have WMP and other stuff that wouldn't be missed. The whole reason for it is the anti-competitive practices that were banned in Europe. Not sure if the missing stuff would effect normal usage like web browsing video watching etc though.
     
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    It depends on your use scenario. Chances are pretty great that it won't matter. I actually like Windows Media Player and prefer it over the modern UWP rubbish versions of audio and video players included with Windows 10 and most third-party applications. The only one that I think is better is JRiver Media Center.

    Here is more info about Windows N versions. The bolded part is a real plus. I hate those "features" and having them missing or broken is beneficial as far as I am concerned.

    The "N" editions of Windows 10 include the same functionality as other editions of Windows 10 except for media-related technologies. The N editions don't include Windows Media Player, Skype, or certain preinstalled media apps (Music, Video, Voice Recorder).

    If you use N editions of Windows 10, you must install other software from Microsoft or other companies to have this communication functionality; to play or create audio CDs, media files, and video DVDs; to stream music; and to take and store pictures.

    New features such as Cortana, Windows Hello, and PDF viewing in the new Edge browser rely on Windows Media files that aren't included in N editions. And some websites and software, such as Windows Store apps or Microsoft Office, use Windows Media-related files that aren't included in N editions.

    Users of N editions can make websites and software work correctly by installing the Media Feature Pack for N editions of Windows 10 (KB3133719).
     
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    I use vlc for pretty much all multimedia but I have noticed that WMP in some situations has much better vanilla audio to my ear. More streamlined cd/dvd burning in WMP but I'm comfortable with imgburn. All that "missing" stuff is definitely not missed.
     
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    I just came to ask, I want to use LTSC 2019 full time as my main OS, but the thing I'm worried about is how some programs or games might need a certain newer build for something to work? I'm worried about how something might not be supported since this version is basically frozen in time since its a lot like how Windows used to being an actual OS and not a service. (My PCs hardware is definitely supported I'm not worried about that) Correct me if Im wrong or Im just over thinking things.
     
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