Windows 10 Redstone 4

Maybe M$ want money for their code? But it's still nice to don't have to see WinCrap X in the CB window And Mocrosoft won't let them have it... Worse score with Win 10

 

the best and quickest way to benchmark your taptop, CINEBENCH and wPRIME are R.I.P.

 

Hmm that's weird.

There must be something that makes the W10 enterprise version different compared to the normal consumer variations.

 

Both bench can easily distinguish between bad vs. good hardware design. Aka BGA vs. LGA. Those two will never run into R.I. P as long Intel or Micro$haft don't change their code. Cinebench is easiest way to find out if you bought Trash. Under 60 second and you have the results

 

I suggest you go to the Canary channel and install this..........

 

I prefer instead travel to Canary. One or two times a year. Can't feel the sun with being a unpaid GP. I'm sick of the dark and the weather here home. The same for the utter trash coming from Redmond HQ. I need sun, bruh. Not this mess!!

 

Aside from App Locker, user app virtualisation, AD and other enterprise features the codebase will be same.
Phoenix: I think it has do with WDDM model disallowing installing on older archive Win 10.

I hate Redstone codename, they couldn't come up with a new revision even after 2 yrs.

Why don't we visit Redmond HQ and check if they're still using W7 and testing W10 in a VM.

 

Maybe they're using their own "internal use only" super-secret non-Windows OS 'cause they can't afford crashes and conflicts while they work on W10?

 

Then we might need to get a unlicensed version of Strawberry WX version.

 

kinda unrelated to RS4 but, maybe phoenix will know this. i was told RS2 & RS3 boots extremely fast from few people wanna know if thats true, never used win10 in my life and prob don't plan on it unless there some sort of benefits. could someone confirm this?

 

TH1, TH2 = Fastest
Redstone 1, Redstone 2 = Fast
Redstone 3, Redstone 4 = Horrible! The windows loading icon starts spinning, then pauses for 10-15 seconds, then continues to spin.

I've done 10s of formats, it's always the same, once you install 2 or 3 drivers (like until the point you reach the Audio Driver) the slowdown starts getting worse, then you install all your apps and it becomes slower than an HDD booting Windows 8 even if you are using an NVMe SSD and even if you are using RAID 0

So I expect Redstone 5 will be....turn on the computer....go make a coffee while the telemetry and bloatware are loading, then come back to see the desktop and enjoy your coffee

PS: This happens even if you strip the OS with MSMG Toolkit and slimt it down and remove all the bloat. It's just one flawed OS which you can't fix.

 

can window 10 be installed with legacy settings? and can it take advantage of the fast boot from TH1/2 builds?

 

1) You can, that will make your boot time even slower.

2) You cannot enable Fast Boot on machines that have an HK or K processor (or any overclockable processor). The moment you enable Fast Boot in BIOS then save and exit, it will revert back to disabled.

Reason being, the motherboard has to check and re-initialize the overclocking settings upon every boot up it can't just start booting like you see in low end computers where you press the power button and you almost instantly see the Windows loading icon spinning.

this info is directly from MSI Level 2 Technical support when I created a ticket asking them why the heck is my fast boot not sticking to ENABLED?

If I disable the overclocking feature in the BIOS, then I can enable fast boot but what's the use of owning an overclockable machine then?

Windows Fast Boot is a different thing though, that basically is a hybrid shutdown/hibernation is not what really defines the concept of fast booting. The Windows Fast Boot takes much longer to shutdown since it needs to save the current state, drivers, etc. of the OS in the hiberfile.sys before it shutdown and often times that fails so when you turn on your computer, you might be welcomed with a black screen until you do a forced shutdown to enable the standard/full boot of Windows

 

damn that doesnt sound very pleasant at all. i can just picture it now and the amount of time i'd have to put into this. i was thinking of doing server 2016 OS it'll come with way less bloatware but i guess the core of OS still isnt changed much from windows 10.

 

The ugly truth is, some of the drivers won't even install on older builds. Example, I was sick of my 4.4 GHz. laptop taking like 45 seconds to boot. So I formatted, installed Threshold 1 Build 10240 which was the snappiest and fastest build with the least amount of bloatware, the bloatware in TH1 is NOTHING compared to the joke we have now.

anyway, after configuring my OS for an hour, created a Macrium Reflect base image, then started installing the drivers, it all stopped at driver 2, nVIDIA Driver says I am installing it on an un-supported OS, it was detecting TH1 as some unknown/foreign OS and I imagine the same would hold true for other drivers like WLAN, Card Reader, Bluetooth, Touchpad, Audio, etc.

Just bite the boot time and deal with it is your only option

 

where can i download TH1 and test it out? just MS website?

 

Windows 10 Threshold 1 Download

Windows 10 Threshold 2 Download

those are the links for the English US ISO for Home + Pro

I suggest you test TH2 as that ISO is the 3rd ISO released for TH2 so it incorporates a lot of the updates which means you can simply disable Windows Update and not have to worry about the little patches released after the initial release of that build. If you enable Windows updates, it will download the latest build for you immediately so make sure you don't connect to a wireless network during the initial setup wizard (click skip when you are shown the available networks to connect to), configure Windows to your liking, run O&O ShutUp10 to disable telemetry and all the other privacy invasion things, and also make sure you disable Windows Update both from O&O ShutUp10 and also disable the service from services.msc

Let me know how it goes and what happens when you try to install the latest nVIDIA Driver

 

What startup time do you see in Task Manager startup window? And what's the difference in startup time with Raid0 vs. single drive?

 

I have not the knowledge of that

 

Sorry, I should be more clear... “Last BIOS Time”

 

My last BIOS time is 5.3 I have not an idea of what it was on previous builds.

 

Glad to hear about this- I have a perplexed friend with a K CPU who swears her BIOS is jinxed!

 

RS1 had 3.5-4sec boot time and RS2 has 6.5sec.
I have exact same apps and settings like previous Windows.

 

This is my startup time for build 17110, I have very basic settings in this test laptop.

 

Made it look my PC like crap. Only 3 apps at startup with 6.5 secs

 

Startup time has become irrelevant with SSDs nowadays but I'm glad we got rid of the spinning circle in Vista days

 

I still got spinning circles for 5-10 secs on PCIe SSD.

 

Windows 10 Redstone 4 Release date = Anytime from Mid March to End of March

 

Build 17112 has been released.

 

Funny there's a new build every other day now.

 

No probl. You have ssd’s with MLC tech

 

yes but I have not the time to test a new build every other day

 

What is most important? Work hard to be Arnold or help Micro$haft with testing? Maybe shift goal?

 

Can I get a link to the ISO downloader you used to have on your software page before you closed it down? I want to dl redstone 4 and win 7 from it. im trying to find win 7 ultimate 64 N version and its hard as crap to find ISO for it.

 

1) I don't have an N version download link for Windows 7. Download Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit (Pro highly recommended over Ultimate though)

2) For the Windows and Office Downloader = https://www.heidoc.net/php/Windows ISO Downloader.exe

For Redstone 4: 17115.1.180302-1642.RS4_RELEASE_CLIENTCOMBINED_UUP_X64FRE_EN-US.ISO

 

@Lynx2017 W7PRO is recommended over Ultimate because Ratiborus KMS tools don't work with Ultimate

 

And it isn’t bloated, has only what a power user needs

 

Less is definitely more in terms of OS

 

@Mobius 1 and @Lynx2017 If you need tweaked W7 Pro N here is the link

 

Downloading now, thanks. Will my Win 7 Ult N key work on this? or will i need to buy a new key off Reddit?

 

Didn't know reddit sold licenses for w7 N. You could try it OR if you scroll down the post which I gave you the link you'll find something.

 

found it. thanks.

 

I have leaked info that RTM will be signing off in 72 hours.

 

Doesn't mean you need to install it immediately after

 

If Phoenix posts it in 72 hours, I will install it.

im a very bored young lad... maybe someday i will get a gf

 

I will install RS4 when reaching RTM. Its been 2 years since I updated to newer version.

 

Stay tuned, I am monitoring this like a hawk to give y'all the RTM ISO the moment it lands from the Micro$haft servers

 

I prefer stock OS ISO, I'll give it a go on a VM and after it passes my verification I'll update it ASAP.
EDIT: I want to see how many UWP apps are running in background or install w/o user permission.

 

... and I'll be following some months later when all the initial bugs, kinks, and quirks have been sorted out!

Creators Update's been holding out okay, and I'm hoping you, Phoenix, and all the other 'real' Win testers will let us all know if RS4 is actually worth the trouble of changing.

 

The Windows 10 bugs will never be sorted out, we fix this broken OS.

Example:

User Says: Hey Doc, I just installed Windows on my taptop but umm,,,where are my power plans?

Cortana replies: The MS clowns forgot to add them when creating Windows 10 Flintstones 3 , please proceed to add them yourself, that is just one part of the missing puzzle