Windows 10

No Windows 9 Folks

It's Windows 10

"Preview Being Released Tomorrow"

"Starting tomorrow we're going to launch our Windows Insider Program."
"Technical Preview build for laptops and desktops."
Technical Preview build for servers will follow after that.
We're inviting our enthusiastic fans to evaluate it with us. We know they're a vocal bunch."
"We're planning to share more than we ever have before, frankly earlier than we have before."
"We can build a product that all of our customers will love."

"After the build conference, mid next year" for Windows 10 release.

http://live.theverge.com/microsoft-windows-9-event-live-blog/





Start Screen in touch.
Essentially this is a mode that switches based on touch and keyboard input.


Windows Insider Program:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-coming-soon

 

They said during the presentation that it "wouldn't be right" to call it Windows 9. Okay, I'm confused here. Why not? What am I missing? Seems like a pretty appropriate name when your last product was called Windows 8.

Edit: Hey look, it's OSX's Expose! Sorry, "task view."



Nitpicking aside, it looks like a really nice product.

 

Hmmm wonder why they skipped Windows Nein, guess the jokes wrote themselves. :laugh:

 

Does it really matter what it's called?

Who cares what the name is.

 

Yeah, I saw this. So stupid. Unfortunately, the name change and re-branding are the biggest differences between "Windows 10" and Windows 8. They should have kept it Windows 8.2, because that is all it really is. All they did was un-delete a few things that were lost from Windows 7 - Windows 8, right? They are trying so hard to distance themselves from Windows 8, yet keep peddling the same OS with the same nonsense.

 

It better be 10/10 then.

But seriously, if it didn't matter to M$ what the name is, why did they go out of their way to skip the next logical progression in the sequence? Name it Thresold or whatever, naming it Windows 10 makes it way too obvious that they're trying too hard to separate themselves, at least nominally, from the notoriety of Windows 8. Even non-techy people like Grandma will be wondering where Windows 9 went.

Exactly, hopefully consumers don't fall for the wolf in sheep's clothing if this indeed turns out to be the case.

 

I think that getting rid of the ModernUI and putting modern apps in windows on the desktop, and adding new multitasking paradigms (multiple desktops, task view) is a pretty big change, much more than an x.1 change.

 

Where's the big change? ModernUI was introduced in Win8, nobody wanted it, so it goes. Multiple desktops is old, old, ooold hat, I'd be embarrassed to even mention that. Multiple desktops have been delivered with Windows systems for many, many years now. Task view? Yawn... So, where do you see the "big change"?

P.S.: This article (April fool's joke from last year) turned out to be prescient. Amazing really. "Windows 9 was simply too good to be true...

 

don't forget now we have the fugliest stat menu ever! heck I'd take Windows 8 with StartIsBack over that new crappy Start Menu

 

This is called User Customization.... [language]... USER INSTALL CUSTOMIZATIONS how dumb are they? Must be obvious dumb not to know Metro is the sinking ship but they can't seem to know where to go anymore

 

Probably mid next year when Windows 10 is GA would be the correct time to evaluate the OS.

Preview,Alpha,Beta dnd RC's are works in progress.

Hardly something to get all worked up about.

The RTM will be the build I look forward to the most.

Like most things that interest me,I give it a good solid test doing what I do most on my PCs before forming an opinion one way or the other.

 

I'm down with Windows 9...err 10. Hopefully it's a free upgrade or a $15 purchase like the last time.

 

Here's why it's Windows 10: Because 7 ate 9...

 

Missed post #6?

 

What do you mean?

 

What I mean is that it looks so weird and ugly (at least to me), the first half on the left looks decent, sort of like what all the millions of users were used to before with a little modification, noone complained when the start menu from XP to Vista to 7 changed, it was still there just a bit different).....

but now this.......it just looks terribly wrong.....half is like the Windows 7 start menu and the other half is the crapware metro start blended with the normal start menu, I want a desktop OS with none of that Metro involved, I don't want to see metro, don't want to buy anything from the Microsoft store, I just want my desktop and start menu with a modern OS that has better support for newer hardware such as Windows 8 but that doesn't give me less performance in every benchmark I run.

Sort of like a polished Windows 8 core but with the 7 interface.........unfortunately, that ain't happenin', movin' on.....nothing exciting

 

And of late all the "even" numbered Windows releases are troll versions.

Apparently it cannot be named 9. What does that tell you?

I am not encouraged.

 

You don't have to pin any tiles on the menu if you don't want to. Then you'd just have what's on the left.

Personally, I'd like a news tile or two (probably both the first-party News app and Flipboard) and a weather tile in the start menu, but I'd probably leave it at that.

 

Given how successful the other giants have been in the consumer/prosumer computing world with their closed gardens, there is only one direction MS would go. Sorry, but there is nothing we can do about that.

How many trolling even number releases did we have beside 8?

 

Half Life 3 confirmed.

Interesting choice of numbering. Don't care much though.
Maybe MS was going for Windows X, X being a Roman numeral for ten, so XP people would say "hey look. it's Windows X. It's like XP only with less P and just X (for eXcitement)!"

Not sure I like it. I prefer how it is now.
I also don't like how the new Snap works. I theory it's nice, but I'm afraid it will annoy me. And Charms menu isn't there either. I liked it an a tablet and on desktop you could turn it off.
We'll wait and see. After all, it still in early stages.

Poor poor MS, it's hard for them to please everyone.

 

Well that's just a matter of unpinning the apps. Just like you can unpin the Store app in the taskbar in W8.1 Hardly a reason to call it crappy.

I don't have any use for Modern apps either, and I rarely use those apps, the Start page (or Start menu) or Start button. I hope the latter can be removed.

Windows 10 doesn't look like much of an improvement tho. Guess I'm pretty satisfied with W8.1.

 

Windows 8
Windows Vista (6)
Windows 95 (4)

Pretty much every other release... heck... if you count Millennium Edition... literally every other release.

 

Is it just me, or does it look like Aero Glass or some form of transparency is enabled on the windows and the taskbar? Could they actually be bringing it back?

 

I sure hope so!

 

The taskbar has always been transparent in Windows 8.

As for the windows, looking back through all the photos from this morning's presentation, there's only transparency in the additional border it throws around each window in Task View (the Expose-like multitasker where you see miniature versions of each window). There's no transparency in the windows' actual borders when you're using the programs.

 

Hopefully, because it's a early build, they will at some point get around to applying the transparency to everything like Windows 7 had it.

Pretty Please, Microsoft?

 

Is anyone else besides me concerned that a company with a market cap of ~$375 BILLION, whose software runs things like nuclear silos, can't count correctly to 10? Will they skip the number 9 in all future countdowns? Are they going after the number 6 next? After all, it's just 9 upside down. Other questions I have -

Do microsoft executives only play 8 holes of golf?

Do cats living in Redmond now only have 8 lives?

Can there now only be one more official Wonder of the World?

Will Microsoft employees still be able to pick up a spare while bowling?

Are Redmond police giving up their canines to form K-10 units?

I need to know these things, people. Please help.

 

MS software runs nuclear silos now?

I'm sure some Redmond employees not in the marketing department can count...

 

Scarily enough, yes, MS does indeed write software used in nuclear silos, plants, and enrichment facilities. It's actually how the stuxnet worm was deployed.Even better, most of the facilities are still running XP

" Vulnerabilities in XP were among those exploited by the Stuxnet virus that was reported in 2010 to have destroyed centrifuges in Iran's nuclear-enrichment facilities in Natanz, according to Roel Schouwenberg, principal security researcher at security firm Kaspersky Lab."
source - Windows XP: Old Platforms Die Hard, Security Risks Live On - WSJ

 

2020 here we go...

 

See ya on the other side.

 

I just do not believe nor trust them. They want us to believe they are going to listen, well prove it I say! Maybe if they admitted they were wrong to begin with, that is the way they treated their loyal clients before, not this we are going to be kinder and softer. The lets forget the past and move on with a better metro bit does not work for me at all.

 

O.k., kids, seriously now: Am I really the only one who can see how completely and utterly pathetic this "big event" that Microsoft had announced turned out? Remember, this was an event that was supposed to get the enterprise and professional customers excited, and back on board.
So, what are they offering us? In one word: Nothing.
Want more detail? Here's three words: Absolutely, positively nothing.

Just look at the big news:
- The Start Menu: Awesome. Windows 7 already has a Start Menu. Remember?
- Apps on the desktop: Who the hell cares? Nobody is using those pathetic things.
- Multiple desktops: Have been available and around for years. Never generated much interest.
- New Task View: Yawn. A feeble version of Flip-3D. We've all been waiting for that one...
- Oops, sorry, I forgot, the number 10. Now that's a surprise. Something to get truly excited about. Really...

On the other hand, no word about restoring the Search functionality that was destroyed in Windows 8.x. Nothing about the persistent volume shadow copies. Aero Glass? Forget it. Some mumbling about listening to customers, and giving them a choice. Yeah, we heard that before. And then Windows 8 happened.

I think I'm going to see what happens by 2020.

 

Might as well wait for 2525

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Why don't they just call it "Windows" and tack on an annual subscription... $$$

 

Window$ 365...brilliant!

 

Sadly I actually think that will become reality one day

 

Well, uhm, I am in pretty good health, but I still doubt I'll be around to wait for that one...

 

Why do we need new OS'? Besides new os for mobile, new device etc. what do we need a newer one for? Other than MS making money. UI is ui; regardless as long as it displays a ui instead of pure code and commands and allows me to launch programs what does a new os provide?

 

Dx12?

 

To each their own, but I think this looks great. I'll probably be buying a traditional desktop in 2015, and this looks perfect to me for that sort of use.

 

I agree, as a user. I don't really care what the name of it is. I actually prefer "Windows 10" because it gives the illusion that they've made more progress than expected.

I was planning on upgrading next year anyway. So, the name doesn't matter to me. I just want results and progress. I want my upgrade to be worthwhile.

 

Windows 7 looks just as perfect for that sort of use. Like I said, at least as far as we know, Windows 10 adds absolutely nothing.

Well, if you like illusions then certainly the "new Windows" is right for you.

 

I don't like illusions. I was speaking from the perspective of some nonchalant individual going to the store to buy a Windows computer. Windows 10 sounds better and looks better on paper. I prefer a Linux based OS, but Windows gets the job done.

 

Windows 10 adds nothing YOU want to Windows 7, but it adds stuff that I want. You need to quit assuming that "nothing that I personally want" and "nothing" are equivalent terms.

* I like the idea of task view. I really liked expose in OSX as well. The combination of task view and the taskbar seems superior to me than just the taskbar.

* I would like the large-size tiles for Flipboard, Microsoft's News app, and Microsoft's Weather app in my start menu.

* I like that Windows Snap can now do four quadrants instead of two halves.

* On the few times I've gone into the command prompt, copying and pasting via keyboard shortcut would have been handy.

* I prefer the Win8 file transfer window to the Win7 file transfer window.

* I prefer the look of Win10 to that of Win 7, particicularly the look of the start menu. This is subjective, but my subjective preferences are no less valid than those people who are in love with Aero Glass. And no, Win7 with Aero disabled does not look the same as Win10.

 

Seems to me like Threshold is thus far pretty much as previewed/advertised. Calling it Windows 10 is stupid (the folks at Microsoft really think nobody can count and by skipping a number we'll all forget about Windows 8?) but it seems like they're fixing some of the big functionality problems - unified start menu on desktop, running metro programs windowed, usability nods to OSX & Linux, improved search, UI changeable per device type and PERMISSION given by USER (what a concept). If they get rid of things like Secure Boot and locking out other operating systems in BIOS by default, it has promise.

 

Amen to that.

 

What "improved search"? There is no improved search. As a matter of fact, search functionality has significantly deteriorated since, yes, Vista. From Vista to 7 it was just reduced functionality of the Explorer interface, then from 7 to 8 the search functionality itself has been reduced.

Heh, dream on...

 

Secure Boot needs to go. Metro needs to be a user choice, it is great on phones and touchscreen tablets like the Surface Pro. On everything else, Metro is not suited. Metro is not accessible either for physically challenged users and horrible for those who have work to do.

 

Well, look at the list you gave yourself. Are you willing to go out and say that any of this stuff will sway an enterprise to upgrade? Are you willing to say that any of these features are "must haves" rather than "nice to haves"? Are you disagreeing with me when I say that all of these things are, at the very best, and putting the best possible spin on things, minor incremental improvements, for some users, over not the previous version of Windows but the Windows two versions back? Do you at least see why I call this picture flat-out pathetic?

P.S.: On your list:
- Task View? Can you explain to me what the idea is supposed to be? What the heck do I need it for? I've never used Flip-3D either, nor have I ever seen anyone else use it. Why would I use Task View? What's it for?
- Improved Windows Snap? Yep, I agree, that may be useful in some cases, but it is a really minor, incremental improvement.
- Command prompt keyboard shortcuts? Now you're really grasping for straws, is all I am going to say here...
- A file transfer window? Pathetic.
- Subjective, and hotly debated, obviously.