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    Windows 10

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by WhatsThePoint, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. Tinderbox (UK)

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    If you have done an upgrade and are happy with Win10 you can run cleanup an windows app, it will allow you to remove all the leftovers from you previous OS which can be hundreds of megabytes, after running cleanup look down the list and tick to remove the old windows.

    John.
     
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    Unfortunately you're having the problem with blurred fonts, so you're bound not to like it! If you can find a way to fix it then you might like it better, but it's understandable though - I didn't like it yesterday when I first installed it because I had installation hassles, but if you can sort out the problems you might find you like it.

    EDIT: Had an idea on something that might fix blurred fonts. Type "Clear Type", without the quotation marks into the search bar and then select the Control Panel option for Clear Type - it's supposed to make fonts clearer on LCD screens. You could try that.
     
  3. Simona Simmy

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    why win 7 ?? i was on win 8 .. best os
     
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    i tried all kinds ... nothing helped .. because they excluded different option in resize settings .. they need to put it back ..i just sent them proper DONE feedback
     
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  5. MahmoudDewy

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    I was on W8 too ... Now with the beautiful W7 running on my machine I know what I was missing
     
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    Phase Notebook Evangelist

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    i went from 7 to 8 and i personally thought 8 was way better. faster than 7, looked more modern. the whole metro tiles thing was nice to put all my fave apps there and switch between desktop view and metro. layout was easier and faster, so many other things. took like a week or 2 to get used to, but it was worth it. no idea why 8 gets so much flack. must be mostly from people age 30 and older. no offense to them though
     
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    Somebody says that MS acknowledged a "misinformation" (another one) about clean Win10 install after upgrading. Now if you want Windows 10 installation you need to install Windows 7/8.1 and then upgrade within a year even if you have already done this before.
    EDIT: Nope, looks like MS approves that you can do clean install of Win10 after upgrade. It's just happens that sometimes your Win10 is activated with general key, not personal after upgrade.
    ...And that Win7/8.1 key still persists being legit, it's just a backup of Win7/8.1 will be deleted in a month after upgrade.

    So if you want to keep Win10 after a year safely... then Macrium Reflect or Acronis and upload backup to a cloud.
     
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    Is it possible to install drivers? I thought Windows Update reinstalled its own drivers if you did that?
    Or was that another FUD fact?
     
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    haha :D
     
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    Win8 is better than win7, Once you make it look like Win7 :)

    I have had explorer in win10 crash and restart 3 times since yesterday.

    John.
     
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    Phase Notebook Evangelist

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    explorer or edge?
     
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    The only way I ever found to make Windows 8 look and act exactly like Windows 7 is to wipe and install Windows 7. It's the only way to permanently get rid of the charms bar and the don't-call-it-Metro tiled home screen and the half-assed touch UI.
     
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    Never used either.

    John

     
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    The charms bar did not bother me, I quite liked it, I just used startisback, and gadgets for win8, boot straight to dektop.

    John.

     
  15. Simona Simmy

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    same happened to me ..
    i just deleted files in C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download
    then i ran cmd in admin rights then run this wuauclt.exe /updatenow
    Ckeck updates it should start downloading..
     
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    Wow, that was really quite impressive just now. Finished an hour of playing Titanfall using Windows 10 - on maps like Lagoon and Swampland where on Windows 7 it was dropping down to the high 50's at certain places on the map, it was in the 60's using Windows 10 during those same spots - a lot smoother experience! Also seemed like more fps on other maps too, but less easy to tell because mostly at at least 78fps (the refresh rate of my screen, no vsync) on those ones. Wasn't expecting that because other games run the same as Windows 7, apart from some fps reduction in Arkham Origins.

    EDIT: @Kpaxx , can't you just download the iso from Microsoft, you can create a bootable USB stick using an all-in-one tool which is all included at the following link, and then you just click on the setup file on the USB stick from within Windows & it ran the in-place update for me:
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

    EDIT #2 (1/8/15): nope, I was mistaken, not an increase in performance in Titanfall, seems the same as Win 7.
     
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    Can't you just download an ISO and start the upgrade from a USB drive?
     
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    weird ... mine ultrabook got updated without problems and even my tablet too..
     
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    Can't you activate via telephone or online (ie click the activate button). I think I said earlier in the thread that at first my install wasn't activated, and then when I came back to it the next day after leaving it connected to the internet overnight it was already activated - must have automatically activated overnight.
     
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    This may have solved my issue, must have gotten corrupted over the years.
     
  21. ajkula66

    ajkula66 Courage and Consequence

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    +1.

    Downloaded and performed a clean install of W10 32 Pro on a spare system last night since I had to stay awake anyway with nothing else to do, played with it for 12 hours and nuked it.

    To each their own, but I'm done.

    Wake me up for W11. Or not.
     
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    My initial impressions of Windows 10 is that it's still in beta. I've had Edge crash a few times, mail not allowing to add email accounts, saying it's not connected to the internet which it is, also not getting mail notifications. Lots of disk thrashing which slows down the overall system, maybe it's indexing the drive?

    Butt ugly UI, this should be named Windows "CCleaner" 10. Who at Microsoft decided on all white, yuck?

    Now for the good, two systems and pretty much everything works.

    1) ThinkPad T60 - Did a straight upgrade and kept everything and the only thing I needed to add was my ATI X1400 driver and W10 found my printer driver. Besides that everything works including all programs. So impressed on that front.

    2) Dell Vostro 1520 and I did an upgrade from a Dell Windows 7 Premium disc I had lying around (system shipped with Vista Basic) and Windows 10 activated. Not sure if i'll be able to upgrade after the 12 month free promo.

    Anyways, it's not a bad OS, a few things have taken a couple of steps back from Windows 8 and it's taken steps forward from W8. If Windows 10 weren't free I wouldn't buy it.
     
  23. Simona Simmy

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    u should leave it for day and it wud activate itself
     
  24. Simona Simmy

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    you could have dual boot on pc
     
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    I'm well-aware of that fact , and several of my systems dual boot anything from OS/2 to W2K to various *nix flavours.

    However, I have to *like* and/or *need* an OS in order to tolerate it on my machine, dual-boot or not.

    That is simply not the case for W10.
     
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  26. E.D.U.

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    Worth a read for all, since we all know that many people do not look through privacy policies/service agreements:

    http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2015/07/29/wind-nos/

    With Win 10, aside from Micro$haft's strange push to diminish user choice in how WU functions, (for me, jury's still out on that one despite their last-minute "workaround") their changes at the level of privacy have me most concerned. Some things that should be opt-in, they take liberties and make them on by default in the OS. I always wondered how they'd make up for this "freeness" of Win10 and I think it'll mostly come from them leveraging your collected info. The average-Joe user will be most vulnerable.

    You can make the argument that "oh it doesn't bother me, who cares, most corporate entities are doing this nowadays," yes that may be so, but 1) It doesn't make it right, 2) Microsoft might be trying to push the envelope further testing the waters with Win10 and 3) This is an OS that people will use daily at home, work and play; in an increasingly connected world the OS is the foundation for all our computer based tasks, making privacy at the OS level all the more important. Please I don't say this to scare anyone or force their opinions about W10 but only to stress staying informed. In this regard, turn off what you can and think carefully about what you feel comfortable with, as well as potential consequences because like the article concludes: "we should all be very careful about relying on the “good faith” of corporations. I’m not even sure such a thing exists." I'll be sticking to Win7 and watching.
     
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  27. Simona Simmy

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    Man about privacy .. nah.. microsoft knows you (knows us) SINCE like windows 2000 ? or windows xp?
    you have no idea how many data already went to microsoft from end users.. there are bilion users sends so much info to microsoft servers.. that's been loong time ago ..
    and main thing is that ppl in the past NEVER bothered.. BECAUSE they didn't know ..
    The word ''privacy'' NEVER been mentioned.. So ppl left it be..
    When facebook started soo so much info about ppl been collected nobody didn't have idea .. but now policy is changing by governments in countries so it is nowadays the word ''privacy'' is more popular, more registered by ppl, so there is higher concern ..
    Remember the worst facilities for privacy vulnerability are social websites ..
    And you been there ages open ..
    By reverting to win 7 won't help you much ..

    EDIT : Actually Internet vulnerability was even earlier in 1995..
    ppl had no idea ...
    until the watched this :D

    [​IMG]
     
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  28. franzerich

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    You are just speculating, but you don't actually know if it's true.

    So while I am speculating as well, I give you the following example:
    In Windows XP and Windows 7 people had more privacy when they disabled all the update sh!t. Obviously not even enough information was sent to Micorosoft to determine if they had a legit copy of Windows. Obviously Microsoft didn't gather as much data. Obviously Microsoft didn't collect enough personal information from the people. So of course something was different.
     
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    Well a few hours in and it is not as bad Windows 8 was, much lower on the puke factor. I did an inplace upgrade and like with Windows 8 it did not load up the enhanced scheduler for non-NUMA CPU's. I had to do the a fresh install with Windows 8 beta to get the scheduler enhancement.

    This actually may make it past 24 hours. I am still though reluctant to install on my production machine. It does, with an inplace upgrade, still give you access to IE11 and more importantly for me lets Windows live mail still work as well.
     
  30. Simona Simmy

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    No, no mate .. as long as u using win and you are connected to the ''freaking'' internet then it all starts.. you think by disabling something in win makes TRULY disabled? pleeese don't be naive kid.. The first thing what microsoft checking IF you hold legit windows..! If not then YOU are on ''black list'' at the microsoft and you are sticking out .. you are HIGHLIGHTED .. ! Be careful on thaat.. your IP,location and all that sh!t is registered in half second after connected to the internet .. ;)

    EDIT : IF you want true security and be protected you have to look for your open PORTS and you can close them ..
    I assume the CORE of windows is same in ANY win versions so it will work even in win 10 ..
    Best is use CMD.. if you know commands.. ;)
    Guides is here :
    http://www.ehow.com/how_5882883_close-computer-ports.html


     
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    Have you actual proof? Otherwise it's nothing else than empty claims.

    Again example 1) there are thousands of non-legit copies, all using the same offline activator keys and and not a single one of them was punished. So either Microsoft has something missing or not.

    Also note example 2) When these people however enabled Updates, their Windows copy was suddenly declared as "Trial version". So obviously enabling Updates recognizes the non-legit copy. But disabling all services after installation of a raw copy obviously doesn't, even if you are connected to internet 24/7
     
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    Privacy article? Not a big deal, during setup, just don't do express. I chose to have all those disabled from the very beginning. People should just use their brain and not be lazy by pressing express/normal setup and clicking next and next blindly. Microsoft wasn't deceiving anyone, it clearly says if you want this feature, info will be sent to Microsoft. If you want this feature, advertisers will know etc.

    Google Now has always been disabled on my phone from the start. Cortana has never been on with Windows 10. It's not a conspiracy, the options are up front.

    As for other privacy issues? As previous poster said, don't use social media. I don't. And beyond that, well then you just have to stay off the internet or somehow get rid of all of the top 10% of the population, politicians, wall street, corporations, defense contractors etc.
     
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    The only difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 regarding privacy is that you can´t turn off the diagnostic background systems 100 % like before - but you still can reduce the amount of data sent to Microsoft to a bare minimum (that is, if the system stops working for some reason, Microsoft gets the error reports and log data automatically in Windows 10).

    They really need these diagnostic systems for the new way Windows is deployed and developed (the new ring-System, where Windows Insiders get the BETA stuff first, then the patches are rolled out to the Current Branch, which includes Home users, and then it is rolled out in the Current Branch for Business, which is the one you can choose with Windows 10 Pro - and then, after a long time of testing, it is rolled out in the Long Term Servicing Branch, which is for Mission critical systems. With this method of deployment Microsoft can be sure that business and pro users get the most stable software). They are much more dependend on user testing than they were with Windows 7 or even Windows 8.x.
     
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    As much as I hate to admit it... I upgraded my desktop. I see no reason to clean install. Everything works. I had to change the default 150% HDMI scaling to 100 but it literally hasn't had a single issue. It even works with my old ASUS AiSuite that keeps me from ripping my hair out over the noise the H100i makes if I let the motherboard control it without the software. On top of that? The wireless card I thought was dead? The one that froze 8.1 every time I turned it on? It's working flawlessly. I have a 780 Ti so benchmarks are useless compared to what we have in our laptops... But I will say they fixed the CPU issue 8.1 had... The optimization amazes me. And this is the time since windows 95 that an upgrade doesn't appear to have broken a thing.
     
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    This is the first time EVER that I did an upgrade vs clean install and so far so good except that on both laptops i'm still not getting Mail notifications on incoming mail.

    I also haven't found a way to set Windows Update in the Pro version to check and notify. It uses the same settings as in Windows 10 Home which is to defer updates. So it looks like WU are set to automatically download for either version of Home or Pro. Am I missing something? :vbconfused:
     
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    Agreed, that's what i've always done on Windows 8 and now Windows 10.
     
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    What I did is as soon as I saw the Windows 10 desktop, went to control panel > system > device manager > hardware tab, then click on device installation settings, then instruct it to never search for driver updates from Windows

    Next, I used the Windows 10 Updates Hiding utility to check for and hide the driver updates and I never saw them again. Only Windows updates which I am fine with.
     
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    You can defer updates up to 6 months if I'm remembering correctly but there are already tools in the work to block windows update period. Of course that would be dumb and I think 6 months should be ample time to see bugs and fix bugs...
     
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    LoL, everyone delays 6 months so it takes that long for bugs to show and/or the home people are the beta testers. Either way it is a M$ joke on the public. :)
     
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    Unless i'm missing something both the Home and Pro versions have exactly the same settings for WU. So much for the manual updates on the Pro version like we've been used to in the past. Although someone posted a link to a tool where you can hide your updates.

    The mail app still isn't syncing with the MS server as it continues to request updating my account info then I get the "can't connect to the internet" message.
     
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    You're missing it. Updates are automatic and forced less than Pro. I'm not doing your work for you, go ask Google.

    I have a feeling the home users upgrading will be treated differently from the home users who paid the retail 119. Time will tell.

    I have a hard drive dedicated to insider preview... My understanding is we get it all for free as long as we were Insiders. Microsoft is trying to follow the apple path... But free instead of developer money. The only monetization chance they have is if they can make their app store as successful as apple did.
     
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    I have Windows 10 Home on my Yoga 3 Pro (since it had Windows 8.1 Core preinstalled), and Windows 10 Pro on my W550s. On Windows 10 Home, the option to "defer updates" (which means choosing the CBB) is missing.
     
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    is the ISO from the media creation tool a full ISO or just an upgrade ISO?
     
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    You get the choice of upgrading the machine that you're running, or downloading a full-blown-fresh-install ISO. I've used the latter.
     
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    I submit that it is search engines first, social networking sites seconds. Search engines aren't so blatant about the data they collect. That whole "it's just metadata" argument? What you search for is far more useful -- and valuable -- than you might think.
     
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    man i know .. basically the whole internet is thread .. you won't help it unless u get disconnected.. ;)
     
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    Well Windows 10, IMHO, needs two things.
    1.) a way to stop mandatory updates, It may be enough with the tool for drivers though.
    2.) full Aero, this may be soon too with the third party app.
     
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    The "named after a character in Halo" caption makes me weep. "My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Durandal and Joyeuse."

    Still, neat that the assistant can be made to work with Google. And since that's possible it should be possible to make it work with Start Page and DuckDuckGo.
     
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    Someone had asked how do you get rid of the search box in the taskbar? To remove it, right click on the taskbar, then click on "search" there you'll find 3 options (Hide/Show Search Icon/Show Search Box).
     
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