Windows 10

But they got it acceptably close and consistent across on different screen size and resolution for now. (Slightly too big or Slightly too small)

I did test it against odd setups: 2x 24" FHD + 1 22" 900, 1 24" FHD + 1 19" 1024, 2x 20" FHD + 1 20" HD.

 

While I get it's a tech preview, it's nonsense that I installed it 3-4 days ago, used it for a collective amount of 11 hours, and suddenly can't update to 9860 from 9841. All I did was drivers, Opera, and Office 2013, and I cannot see how that alone is enough to stop it from updating properly.

Back to 8.1 I go, since I have to reformat to update 10's build anyway, I'd rather not bother.

 

Opera... That must be an Opera

 

You must be mistaken, this forum hasn't turned into pseudo-reddit yet with those banal jokes.

 

That was a rytorical joke where you should lightly smile understanding that joke didn't pretend to be truth or be a real joke but a small earthing for MS which already got a lot complaints ... and of course didn't pretend any answer was needed (that's what rytorical means).

In fact if forum will be full of members like you who put his cuspidate nose trying to pique somebody then it will become pseudo -whatever much faster. So... how did you told that time? Get OFF? Otherwise that will look like personal or some kind of persecution so I will have to contact a moderator.
You have just 40 posts here (when did you realize how this forum hasn't turned into anything?) and already look like a small thing who dreams to jump on somebody's head and bite or revenge for being rediculed by yourself.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...eed-unity-crew-steam-store-2.html#post9830807

 

FYI, it's spelled rhetorical.

 

Has MS indicated when they'll release Windows 10 in 2015? Are there still any indications it will be a free upgrade for 8.1 users? Just going off the previous rumors about it possibly being free for any Windows 8 customers.

 

Please put Aero interface back. Please! :yes:

 

It would be nice but I highly doubt it. The fact that border sizes have changed drastically is an indicator that Aero is gone for good. It is a shame as that could still be my reason for not upgrading, but we will see.

 

Ditto. I will upgrade my Win8 tablet, but if there won't be no Aero glass on Win10, Win7 will most likely remain as my "normal PC" OS.

 

I regret ever upgrading to windows 8.1 ..><

 

Looks like Windows 10 will be supporting .flac.
Windows 10 to support FLAC audio format | Windows Central

 

That is meaningless to make one upgrade to Windows 10. Sound more like dumber to dumber upgrades....sounds like M$ will become a second O/S to iOS.....

 

It is good they are working on the native support but the UI needs the most attention if they want users to accept the OS over Windows 7. The changes implemented could even upset the small user base out there that likes the UI as is but they have to gear this to the majority unless they only want to market to the minority.

 

Seeing as iOS doesn't natively do FLAC, then no, not really, at least not in the "mobile devices that can natively play FLAC" department.

One of the neat side benefits of this code unification between Windows desktop and mobile is that when they want to give the mobile device some perk, the desktop version can get it too. Is it gonna sell more Win10? Not likely, but it's convenient that it's already there. In some way it could move more Windows Phones for audiophiles irked that Apple doesn't like FLAC.

 

Seems like someone already missed the boat here.....and what was really said in my reply....

 

I have no idea what you were or are saying.

Native FLAC support on a mobile device is "neat" and having that perk carry over to the desktop OS is just a nice side effect of that mobile support. The MKV support is also pretty keen. It *could* move some Windows Phones, but on desktops it just means one less thing to install, which is fine too.

 

Tried Windows "Technical Preview" (Windows 10), let out a big - yawn - and removed it. Same dull, flat look of Windows 8.X. I went back to Windows 7 on my brand-new Asus core i7-4700HQ notebook for good (even though we're not supposed to do this - everything works perfectly in 7, got all drivers), and I'm not looking back.

 

That's the problem right now Windows 7 was and will be the last Great O/S that M$ produces that they can't top it for performance or eye candy it offers especially Aero. Something Later Windows can't still top. Not only that I can install it on old rigs like a Dell 1525 and runs circles around a W8 machine of same specs and anyone can use it kids to Seniors something Metro will never learn to do.

 

There is a rumor about why Windows 10 will be drastically better than Windows 8. If you press F8 and select "Last Known Good Configuration" in boot options it gonna load Windows 7.

 

Ooh, now we're talking!

Wait, you're just teasing us, are you not? :hi2:

 

Wait, an old O/S released 5 years ago designed with older hardware in mind runs faster than a newer O/S when comparing both on identical hardware?

Shocking!

 

A few years ago someone could've said essentially the same thing about XP:

And 5-10 years from now I'm sure someone will be saying it with Windows 10 and appropriate technologies changed.

As for myself, as someone who uses the Luna and Windows Classic themes, I'm happy to see a non-Aero theme as the norm again since Windows 8. The rest of 8 wasn't enthralling enough to make me switch (and I still like window titles being on the left, not the center), but I'm none too sad to see Aero go. Although I am glad Microsoft didn't go all gray icons like they nearly did for Visual Studio 2012. That would've been dull.

James D might be right about Windows 10, though. They included XP Mode in 7, after all. With Hyper-V, they might include a more physical Windows 7 mode - although it probably won't be referred to as "Last Known Good Configuration".

I'm waiting for Consumer Preview to give it a try, but I do applaud the FLAC and MKV support. FLAC in particular is something that should've been here many versions ago.

 

Then prepare for a long nap because Windows (and in general, computing) is adopting a flatter, simpler, blockier design. The shiny Aero theme isn't coming back until the next fashion cycle. For clothes and music it's what, 20 years?

If you need excitement, used Windows 8.1 while skydiving over an active volcano naked while on fire. I dunno.

 

Sounds interesting.

How close to fashion has our prosumer computing "experience" got to be these days?

 

I'd say MS' UI design has nothing to do with modern fashion wavings. It is solely connected with cocroaches in main designer's head and MS CEO's butt (because that's what he uses to think, right?).

 

Close enough that prosumers appreciate it, and more importantly, so they buy it. Aero theme is a butterfly collar, old school.

 

No, it's not as simple as that, at all. Let's note that Android's new look has gone back to bring some functional decorations back into their UI, as they should. And as far as transparency is concerned, and noting in passing that presence or absence of transparency has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with skeuomorphism, we may notice that indeed Apple, led by Jonathan Ives, has introduced transparency in a prominent manner in the newer iterations of all of their GUIs.

 

I dunno how something can become both flatter and blockier at the same time. To simplify, flat is 2D, while blocks are 3D. Or maybe it's just my english..

Windows 8 = flat.

Windows 2000 = blocks. You click the block shaped OK button when you're done.

 

Well, some fashion trends don't last very long... if consumers have anything to say about it.

 

Old Window GUIs actually tried to emulate 3D-ness with shadow/highlight lines and such. Now it's the exact opposite.

 

That's far better then what Metro 8 slams at you instead. One can choose how to setup their desktop not M$ choose your desktop. I also read that WinX will detect if your desktop or not and will switch back to a Win7 Start menu and if you delete the Metro tiles it will go away. But then again I will wait for WinX RC or others to post the screen shot to see how it really works and if it accepts Win7 drivers to install and if not then WinX will be utter failure.

 

Android went both ways due to their design. Things are flatter, but since they also adopted a stacking thing, they have drop shadows and things relevant to that design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNbqFrD_mn0

- Less color (except thru the video some screens have bright top bars, like 10:00)
- Bunch of single, drab color notifications on the lock screen
- The "back, home, menu" buttons are simplified down to .. Playstation buttons
- User icons are single colors
- Dude points out the only "colorful" icons on the homescreen aren't actually Android 5 icons
- 5:49 - phone is a single white screen with thin numbered buttons
- 7:56 drop shadows for differentiating slides (they are rarely seen anywhere else in the video)
- 8:30 - simplified icons, white screen

As a previous Android owner, I can say it's *much* less colorful, but definitely brighter, than it was before.

The transLUCENCY in OS X Yosemite (which I am typing on right now) is there, but not anything remotely like Aero was. The login screen has a vague translucent (note: not transparent) thing, and colors can 'bleed' through some types of interfaces on the desktop. This tweaks the color of things slightly, but doesn't scream "I'm all shiny and colorful and look at me!". In fact even "translucent" is a strong word for the effect. The only truly translucent thing on the desktop is the dock. The menu bar USED to be translucent but they took that out.

The translucent stuff in OS X is in line with iOS, which is not all that much.

 

There's nothing "shiny" about the (adjustable) translucency in Windows 7, and if you hear screaming you may want to go seek professional help. You may notice that no matter the level of translucency you choose, the window borders and taskbar retain a matte look, in exactly the same way as OS X and iOS do. The only difference is that, back in the good old days, Microsoft did allow users to customize interface features, including the amount of transparency, whereas Apple, true to form, decides for their users since they know what's best for them... Sadly, this is an attitude that Microsoft has decided to emulate, since that was Sinofsky's style. Sinofsky was fired, but I do not see Microsoft reverting to their previous ways.

 

If not there will be a new kid on the block that will take a bite out of their market share that's how it goes - fail to realize your market strengths and someone will take it. Sooner or later someone will break M$ code and force Aero and Windows 7 style back regardless of what M$ thinks or wants and the will complain about copyright violations. I will call this Free Market Forces coming into play.

 

As far as I know StarDocks' WindowBlinds is working fine now on Windows 8.x, and presumably on Windows 10, too. This should allow you to get the Windows 7 UI features back.

 

It does bring back at least some of the 3D, if not the translucent window borders. To do Windows 10 that would probably be required by me, at least as is. I still have better than 5 years before being forced to decide on that though. Maybe they are hoping, like a defendant in a law suit, that we (eye candy proponents) will disappear before then.

 

Not if people experience a Win 7 machine and try a Win 8 or Win X then they be like why can't I have what Win 7 has.....

 

And that's an excellent question at that. Indeed, there is no reason at all for Microsoft to rip these features out of Windows.

 

They already know the answer that's the sad reality of it. It's not that hard and doing so will more then likely increase Windows Sales they just wanted to push their Windows Apps store (which is a utter failure) and compete with Apples iTunes something one would say to this "NOT".

 

Indeed.

There's a very good reason Toshiba elected Win 7 Pro to be the default OS on their business-class machines. Win 8.1 Pro is optional.

 

No wonder. Phrase "Windows 8.1 Pro" sounds to me the same as "Professional Clown.1"

 

If I remember correctly, they said that they wanted to avoid feature creep. However, I personally doubt that it's the end of the story given some of the things that got axed. Someone mentioned that Sinofsky's "my way or the highway" mentality likely played a large role in that and I'd have to agree. Heck, I'll be the first to admit that some Windows components feel like they were coded a long time ago or they are remnants left there from older versions of Windows, BUT that doesn't mean they have to be removed rather than revamped. My favorite example is the option to change the window border thickness. It used to be there in Windows 7 albeit well hidden and it was removed (GUI wise) from 8.x. That is one thing I would have liked to see revamped rather than removed.

 

It wasn't just for the deprecation of Aero in Win 8 that was the impetus for ordering my new laptop with Win 7 Pro installed. Rather, it was a host of items, chief of which was the deprecation of System Image Backup as well as Aero. I had depended on that utility, since I purchased my first laptop with Vista Ultimate installed in 2008.

 

I don't know why Microsoft head on to this flat design way, but today my Skype update with new version and it's very annoying to see that design there too.

I don't know what drugs are their interface designers use, but it will be better for everybody if they don't to using them, at least change with something else.

 

It's called fashion pressure or something.

 

Build 9879. I heard that it locks hard drives in some sleep state and prevents them to awake. Do anyone had a "missing HDD while boot" problem?
Also, did you hear anything about "leaked" 9888 build?

 

I got different bugs with different build make me stop using them at all~~

the first one, symlink folder locking up due to permission

9860 fast ring, explorer crash 24/7 and symlink problem

9879, fixed the symlink but explorer still crash (less often), but my screen calibrator no longer work~~

waiting for next slow ring to put on my tablet, windowed apps are nice~~~

Still have no clue why choosing wifi require a pop up window, What the HELL?

 

Flat UI Design - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

("everybody" is using it now)

Along with fashion, it's evolution. I don't need a folder icon that looks a lot like a manilla folder anymore. Most computer users now don't even use real manilla folders. Many design elements of the past, relevant at the time, no longer make sense. The Save icon being a floppy disk, for example. We no longer need to interact with display elements that mimic real-world things and act in real-world ways. We've kind of grown out of that.

As the wiki also says, the design is practical. If a developer wants something that looks equally good (and drawn right) on a 1280x800 tablet and a new Dell 5K display (5120x2880), and everything inbetween, a minimal, mathematically scalable design is the quicker and better way to get that done.

 

You do know Skype is owned by M$ now....