Windows 10

Vista was terrible until it got it's second service pack... I got rid of that abomination of an OS and went back to XP within a week, the only other Windows I hated more was ME which was so dysfunctional that I think it deserves the title of "Malware Edition" more than 10 does even with all the spying. At least 10 is usable...

 

I did not have any issues with Vista. People complained about Vista mostly because they did not have the hardware to run it, so most blamed the OS. That and the fact that manufactures were slow to release drivers that worked properly on it. I used Vista from day one until Seven came out, and loved it.

 

Same here,
Had Vista with a Core 2 Quad Q6600 + Nvidia 8500 -> 8800GTS 512 -> 4870x2 Good times, good times indeed

 

I had the hardware capable of running it. It still ran like crap compared to XP. Windows 7 ran better in alpha than Vista ever did. My M17xR1 came with Vista Home Premium 64-bit. It was certainly built to run it.

 

I don't like Windows 10 as much I would hope to.
It basically reminded me the crap I had to do get things working in XP pre-SP2.

I don't remember that XP had a solid launch, it was pretty unstable till SP2 for those who have entry high end consumer parts.
(Stupid Nvidia and Creative BSOD)
Ran eh on lower end but W98SE ran it much better.

 

No Microsoft launch has ever gone right.

I mean don't forget this



But yeah the general consensus in the tech community when it comes to Windows has always been wait for service pack 1 before upgrading. Of course RS1 should really be SP1 which puts Windows 10 quite far behind... People are quick to forget about just how buggy things were in the past. Windows 7 had some growing pains of its own and Windows 8 never crawled out of its problems so Microsoft killed it in favor of a decimal upgrade to 8.1 and I really wouldn't be surprised to see Microsoft pull a decimal point upgrade for 10 sometime soon to try to clean the bad taste of 10 out of people's heads. It works for Apple with OS X...

 

Also don't forget Windows 95 ad song... The next line in the rolling stone song used, which they cut off, was "it can make a grown man cry!"

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The installation alone could make you cry... Lol

 

What's sad is the beta was more stable than the released version!!! I had a 486 in my bedroom that had it on it while the other computers still were dos and 3.11 for work groups...

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Yeah I was a kid and I sort of borrowed the beta from my friends dad and it was indeed more stable than RTM. The same could be said for Windows 10 too. I didn't have any problems with the insider preview but they made a mess with RTM.

 

I was a kid at the time, too. And did you ever try the tech preview for win 10? Now that was amazing. Still rough, but traded blows with win 7 on benchmarks... It got worse as it went to inside preview and got closer to release. I'm half convinced they have some awesome custom builds on the machines the engineers use and release **** to the public...

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Yep I was on the tech preview from day one. Definitely agree with you. I think Microsoft changed course after the preview and decided they could make more money with spyware than they would in single license sales. You can bet they don't use that crap internally.

 

Nice Windows 10 Anniversary Update Locking-Up After Login For Some Unlucky Users
Read more at http://hothardware.com/news/windows...eezing-some-unlucky-users#bi7ZhGCAyyKI5Z4K.99

 

https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 updated, with ability to confine Cortana in the dungeon where she belongs.

 

Cortana = female virus made by Micro$H4ft

 

Same here. Now I get to spend a night of hell installing and updating windows 7.

 

@TANWare

What was the main reason that made you give up on 10?

 

Remember when Cortana bugged the **** out in the game? M$ made it real!!!

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The OS does not work properly. I was willing to hack away at the privacy issues but;

1.) launching files could take 10-20 seconds for the outside app to launch. This was especially annoying with M$ own office files.

2.) the temporary files all had to be manually removed. The inside application in settings will not clear the temporary files.

3.) other weird file handling issues. I have 2 SSD's and with W7 the system flies at doing everything. With W10 it is a crap shoot.

 

You are going to use the Simplix pack, arent you? Before you format or anything, use Simplix command line option of integrating all the updates in your install.wim. That way at least it will be updated to April. It balloons the file from around 2.75gb to around 4.35gb.
Did not know if you knew about it or not.

Edit: Just checked, and the Simplix package has been updated to July 2016

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/th...rate-hotfixes-into-Win7-distribution?p=756785

 

I just used the W10 roll back option. I had my image just incase though. I use the iSSD that is normally the HDD cache for my mail files. All the swapping around had the mail DB pretty well messed up in live mail so I cleaned the 8gb drive and reset the mail client.

I haven't new installed since getting the system in 2012, so it is basically the same install of W7. I just keep current backup images and if there is a major mess go back there.

 

I always nuke my install at least twice a year. Windows just slows down with time no matter what you do. Unfortunately Windows 10 put my EFI partition on my 2TB drive so i don't know if using Macrium Reflect would actually make a proper image. I don't think the system will boot if I try to move it to my SSD RAID. I don't really mind though, it takes me an hour or so to complete my install thanks to tools like Ninite that install most of my software automatically and it just takes 30 seconds to add my Steam folders on my 2TB drive to the settings and about 5 minutes to set up HWiNFO64 and RTSS how I want them.

 

And 1607 changed everything again, How do you get the old clock back on Win10 1607, this method doesn't work it seems (from MDL post) Edit : seems like clock was dead long back ? so no more old clock ? ...WTF they are moving backward everywhere, Volume panel, Settings / CP, GPedit Win10 Pro restrictions ?! Date and time also broken !! GG how can anyone use this Abomination of an OS ? A lot of work to streamline, I use Win8.1 without any updates, will try that later but with UI tweaking It's almost minimal, With Win10 this is not the case at all..

Random internet comments -

Seems like that's the path that M$ is on now, Hell bent on nerfing everything. ****ing asshats.

OT / P.S: QuantumBreak is coming to Steam, DX11 Win32, Seems like M$ got rekt !!

 

I wholeheartedly agree with those internet quotes.

 

Me too. I mean it took me what, less than a day on AU to give up and go back to 7?

My next project is rolling my laptop back to 8.1 Pro.

 

Hey, I have an alpha build of my custom win 10 pro torn down to basics. You'd still need to customize, but if you have your own key, I could throw it into a Google docs for you @Ethrem. I couldn't guarantee anything would work (much like Windows 10 is now) but Windows update, server self healing, performance monitor, Cortana, Edge, IE for internet (have to keep the underlying engine for file manager), remote almost everything, etc, are gone. I kept what was needed to activate it, but that is it. It is based on the build right before the anniversary edition. Almost all apps are gone, PowerShell is there, etc...

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Appreciate the offer man but I'm just keeping 10 as a dual boot option on both rigs for now. Microsoft eventually fixes their crap. ShutUp 10 fixes most of the rest. I've got digital entitlements on both machines.

 

Fair enough. After this project is over, I'll get another ssd and use that to start testing for stability on my builds. If it all works out, I may use win 10 again (but my benches have to be as good as win 7 for me to switch)...

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Now imagine someone makes performance comparison DX12 vs DX11 of Quantum Break and it will be equal! I believe microsoft will nerf Dx11 performance on purpose to be safe.

 

I've had this Windows 10 install for 1 year, and it's not slowed down at all over that time period - mind you it has had a couple of major updates where it kinda reinstalls everything itself (Threshold 2 & The Anniversary Update), but still no slow downs & no need to reinstall clean.

 

That may well be true but Windows 10 is already slower than a fresh 7 install as it is so maybe you just got used to it.

 

I do not understand it, M$ claims W10 is faster. I can tell you without a doubt this is not any where near the truth. Any fanboy who says it is, well open an .xlsx files that sits there for 20 seconds doing nothing before opening Excel, then have another window of Excel open already and seeing that same .xlsx file open instantly will quickly see the problem. W10 just sucks at being an OS.

My guess, and take it for what it is worth, is W10 telemetry is reporting excel (and other apps etc.) being opened.

 

This is why I wish I could use the tech preview builds that went toe to toe with win 7. It was a coin flip depending on the benchmark as to which one won. Now, win 7 won the fight. Too bad it is going to die in 4-6 years!

Moreover, I just downloaded the win 10 enterprise LTSB to avoid the anniversary edition when I buy 3-4 licenses (future desktop, my laptop, Windows to go thumb drive, and a benching build)...

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Even putting the computer to sleep takes longer on 10... And half the time it wakes right back up on my desktop. Windows 7? I press the sleep button and it's out cold.

I am glad I didn't spend any money on Windows 10. All my licenses were Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 entitlements.

 

I spent $20 on an OEM win 10 Pro license for my laptop, which I haven't really used much at all (went back to my win 7 retail license)...

The waking while in sleep is the scheduled back door bs (which is exactly where they are sticking it to consumers) to download and use their spyware when "the computer is idle or not in use" so they can give you "a better experience!"

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And, then there's this precious new jewel...

Massive Windows 10 Update Starts Causing Problems

 

Did you also see the leaked secure boot keys and M$ having to invalidate them but there being no way to truly bottle that genie back up? LMAO!

Of course they won't meet the number of users! They released a pile of **** spyware, malware prone, NSA spying semblance of an OS!

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And what happens when this is implemented in the lower tier versions of Windows?


Microsoft Confirms Windows 10 New Monthly Charge
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonk...s-windows-10-new-monthly-charge/#5dcc21a3dfab

 

Yeah, the Redmond Mafia is batting 1000 with their feces OS. We probably don't need to hope for their failure because Windows 10 is doing a pretty darned good job of ensuring that will occur without our help. I cannot remember a more flamboyant display of incompetence in their company history... even Windows ME wasn't borked as bad as Windoze OS X.

 

I like that, Windows Feces 10. Has kind of a ring to it! Windows Me, was horrible, luckily we had Windows 2000 to jump on.
Seriously, MS has gone downhill for the past several years. Hopefully this will show them how much the desktop enthusiast is not dead.

 

At least they may have a dual track, the retail purchases licenses, then the subscription. They are transitioning over the EOL period of win 7 and 8. They felt doing so with office worked so well, do it with the OS, while at the same time selling user info to other corporations and God knows who. This is why you backup builds and read every license (EULA) from now until then to prevent from upgrading to a build where they can force it on you. Also, start supporting Linux more!!!

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Yup, I agree... really bad. But, the good thing is that ordinary consumers and noobs, including the Windoze Feces 10 Kool-Aid drinkers, are getting a nice big nasty taste of their abject incompetence. The new update is tearing stuff up left and right, which is sad for those that can't fix their own problems... but, ultimately good if they draw back a bloody stump from it. They need to be taken down from their spyware high-horse and taught a very expensive lesson on the dangers of being stupid.

 

Unfortunately win 7 and 8.1 planned obsolescence has begun, by no longer supporting processors beyond skylake!

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That's true. But, Micro$loth's support is unnecessary. The OSes will work even if they don't provide more updates for them. Plus, I don't use updates for their OSes. So, their support is irrelevant. As long as Windows 7 and 8.X will activate, that's all you need if Windows 10 is out of the question. And, they haven't defined what needing Windows 10 support for Kaby Lake actually means. If the OS won't boot and won't function correctly from a hardware level, then that's bad. But, if it means Windows 10 cancer features don't work so it won't allow them to turn your PC into a Redmond Zombie-Bot, then who really gives a rat's ass? LOL.. I think that statement about future processor support might actually be a desperate scare tactic in the form of blackmail and harassment to frighten people into drinking the Kool-Aid. I guess we will have to wait and see what it means, but don't have your surprised look on your face if Kaby Lake PCs work correctly with Windows 7.

 

I think that may be a mistake, and why would Intel not support an OS that has a 50% worldwide market? They won't, nor will they. I think it is strong arm tactics by MS to scare people

 

I hear you. My concern is Cannonlake on! It is a form of blackmail and we'll see if Intel is complacent by not providing MEI or chipset drivers for support, even though it should still boot. A no boot would piss off so many people, I can't explain what the level of rage would be!!!

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Sooner or later all of the OEMs and ODMs are going to have to stop kissing the butt of the Redmond Nazis. They need to just draw a line in the sand and tell them to go find a private place for self indulgence and work through their control freak issues.

 

This is the reason for losing market share to Apple (even though they are equally Nazi). But it has sprung new life into the Linux based OS creation, whether chrome, steam, mint, ubuntu, ad infinitum. Steam is creating game support for Linux, so games are not hostage. The question is whether corporate programs change over and add support, which also allows for more customized systems, and increased driver support...

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Been playing with Mint here and there.

 

I love Mint Linux. It's an awesome OS. The only reason I have never switched is that it has too many severe limitations and there are too many things I want to do won't work correctly with Linux. Same is true of Apple OS X, which is little more than a Nazi-fied bloatware version of Linux. If I could do everything I want to do with it and run all of the same software I run with Windows I would have left Micro$loth behind a few years ago.