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    Windows 7 Screenshots

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Gophn, May 25, 2008.

  1. mr_bots

    mr_bots Notebook Evangelist

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    Gotta love the situation Microsoft is in every time they release software. If they go all 64bit with 7 people with ***** and moan about their old 32bit software not working with the new OS. If they don't go all 64bit people with ***** about them not moving into the future and delaying mainstream advancement. Also, hopefully MS will keep tight lipped about some of the new features. I don't want the same crap going on that happened with Vista: MS announces new features of Vista first, then refresh of OSX comes out with similar features, and last Vista is released and MS is accused of blatantly stealing ideas from Mac. Microsoft can't win no matter what the do.
     
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    I hope they make it more compatible with the Hardware in 2010.

    or else Microsoft is gonna sink & all are gonna jump to Linux or MaC

    Other than that... Windows 7 looks damn promising.

    there is smthg new in the GUI.
     
  3. atbnet

    atbnet Notebook Prophet

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    It's up to the hardware manufacturers to make the drivers work with the OS or even release them period.
     
  4. Arki

    Arki Super Moderator

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    Here comes the Windows 7 Visual Styles. :p
     
  5. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    I just want Windows 7 to be like XP and have official DX10/10.1 support :D

    Thats all... current features and no bloat.
     
  6. surfasb

    surfasb Titles Shmm-itles

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    So true. Usually, the interface is what gets iron out last. I personally think the interface is what should be ironed out FIRST.

    I'm so with ya. People still whine about the lack of floppy disks. They think CDs are too delicate and USB keys are too easy to lose (LOL).
     
  7. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Vista 7 will need 4 Gb to run decent, 6/8 GB to run perfect :D
     
  8. pukemon

    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    optical media is the most versatile media especially for backup. i'm still wondering when the optical cubes that hold 1 terabyte+ are gonna come out if they ever do.
     
  9. Mr. Wonderful

    Mr. Wonderful Notebook Evangelist

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    I would think that by 2010, the 3GB limit on RAM will be enough of a problem for 64-bit to become mainstream. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some kind of Windows 7 Lite being pushed as a 32-bit version for all those who don't want to run a 64-bit machine.

    Eh. By then I might be a Mac user. I want a speedy OS now.
     
  10. timtravel42

    timtravel42 Notebook Virtuoso

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    ooh shiny, but its probably not gonna look like that

    Anyway... anybody forsee a machine with a core octo and 16 GB ram??? :p
     
  11. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    By 2011? Easily.
     
  12. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    And why would you ever want 128 bit?
    What would the advantage be? And how exactly would it make up for the disadvantages?
    128bit is a dumb idea, and neither AMD nor Intel are even thinking about doing that switch.
    Yes, consumers like to see numbers grow bigger and bigger, but that's because consumers generally don't understand what it is they're buying.
    Switching to 128-bit would have one effect only. It'd slow your CPU down.

    So you've *never* installed a program on XP that also existed on 98?
    I don't believe you.
    Most of the software you use is available because Microsoft made it easy to port from whatever OS it originally existed on.
    When you first got XP, and you installed software on it, that software was almost certainly developed for an older OS. The only reason you could use it on XP was... backwards compatibility.
    The only reason you can run Firefox on Vista, for that matter, is backwards compatibility. Sure, they'd get around to making a dedicated Vista port sooner or later, but at launch? Nope, Firefox worked on Vista because it worked on XP.

    Microsoft is bending over to keep compatibility for developers, and for businesses, primarily. You'd be surprised at how many large corporations literally run MS-DOS-based software. They need that to work, and they need it to *keep* working.

    And developers need to be able to sell their products on whatever new OS Microsoft is making.

    Virtually every piece of software that exists on Windows relied on this backwards compatibility to work when it was developed, when it was run on a new OS, and it relies on backwards compatibility to keep working next year, or in 2010 when 7 comes out.

    Backwards compatibility is the one thing that keeps Microsoft in the lead. Without it, users would have no reason to stick with Windows. They can't afford to give that advantage up.




    However, people often equate backwards compatibility with "bloat". That's not necessarily true.
    This backwards compatibility can be achieved in many ways, not all of which affecting the computer as a whole.
    The obvious example is virtualization. Let's say Windows 7 comes with a small embedded VMWare client, able to run.... Windows XP. That takes care of all your backwards compatibility needs, allowing you to run everything XP could run flawlessly.
    And when you don't need backwards compatibility? You turn off the VM, and Win7 is free from all bloat, and can speed ahead on its own.

    Just an example, and no, I don't think 7 is going to work like this. Just illustrating that backwards compatibility can be achieved without slowing down the system as a whole.
    However, the lead architect on Win7 did say they were considering using virtualization in this and many other cases. Could be interesting.
     
  13. Matt is Pro

    Matt is Pro I'm a PC, so?

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    What do you mean "speedy OS"? Windows XP and Vista both are plenty fast.

    What more can you expect from an OS that MUST work with several hundred, maybe thousands of different computer configurations and software. For Windows to be doing that and still perform as well and as stable as it does, to ask for a "Speedy OS" is just insulting.
     
  14. tianxia

    tianxia kitty!!!

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    skulltrail has two cpu sockets, stick in two quads and you have a 'core octo' :D . it's a watered down enterprise mobo marketed as consumer platform.
     
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    atbnet Notebook Prophet

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    I would agree virtualizing would be a great way to include backward compatibility without clogging up the new code. We shall see though, could be fun.
     
  16. THAANSA3

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    The Fantasy:

    "Windows 7" is on time (2010).

    Microsoft is 64-bit only by 2010.

    Microsoft delivers an OS that is built from the ground up, completely streamlined, and has no major compatibility issues.

    "Windows 7" can function on 512 MB of RAM.

    Microsoft omits any and all bloatware, completely eliminating any reason for any of us to contemplate clean installs, etc.

    Microsoft crushes Apple and forces Jobs into exile on some other continent where he is forced to live like Tom Hanks in Cast Away.

    Microsoft develops a real life Iron Man suit. (that's just my fantasy)

    Everyone falls in love with Microsoft and we all live in perfect harmony with them.


    Reality:

    Microsoft does what they want.

    They release the OS that they want to and we all deal with it.

    We prepare our wallets for RAM purchases, software purchases, Windows retail discs, etc.

    Microsoft laughs all the way to the bank . . . AGAIN!

    Those who don't like it can use Vista, or XP if possible (which I doubt), and we all inundate the board with 'Vista vs. Windows 7' threads.



    I know that I may have forgotten some things, but what I included still sums things up well enough.:D Seriously, I really do hope they get it right. I've felt for a while now that they will get more right than wrong, but only time will really tell what MS delivers. Honestly, I'm encouraged with the high performance of my Vista system. I am happy with it and think that things should get better.
     
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  17. surfasb

    surfasb Titles Shmm-itles

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    Here comes the haters.

    So true. Backwards compatability is the WHOLE reason why Windows is so popular. You can choose to rush and get the latest version of Windows. Or you can keep the older version if that suits your needs better. Developers can develop software confident that their software will not become obsolete within the next update.

    By now, user actions, not software is the biggest limiting factor in productivity. I look at how few people use Email templates or AutoCorrect in Word to insert often used blocks of text. I look at how few people even bother to master keyboard shortcuts.

    How many people honestly take full advantage of a desktop search engine? Most are just content with opening explorer and scrolling through a huge listing to find their file.

    People who constantly shutdown their computers. Do you even know how much power Sleep (s3) draws? And your computer resumes about 100 times faster. Why bother tweaking and getting an SSD to get your boot time below 30 seconds when you can resume from sleep in under 10?

    I could go on and on and on. I even saved this rant so I can use Texter to repost this whenever people complain about how "slow" their OS is.
     
  18. Surfer666

    Surfer666 Notebook Consultant

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    I have three letters to say to this. Eww.

    My fantasy: A new operating system from the ground up. Which must: be fast, reliable, working on all hardware (within reason), reasonably priced, modular (without charing for modules), and (of course) be better named.

    Most likely this will never happen. I mean we, the users, are often on the receiving end of having stuff shoved down our throats without much say in what's going down.
     
  19. Arki

    Arki Super Moderator

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    unknowntt Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah guys my core 3 octo will be able to handle windows 7, it'll be up to date for many years to come!

    For some strange reason, I think Windows 7 will actually be really liked, and I think it'll turn out well. Screenshots will obviously change over time, but for some reason, I really think windows 7 will do well, and microsoft will be liked again someday, people won't be saying "f**king windows 7, f**k it sucks, I hate it!!!" Who knows, maybe people will be saying "wow, windows 7 is actually a decent OS, they really did a good job."
     
  21. Zellio

    Zellio The Dark Knight

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    Little you know of the hippy public. Microsoft could make God in the form of an OS, and people will hate them because they have alot of money.
     
  22. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Vista has not been well regarded; I don't think MS could survive another lackluster OS. People will start moving to alternatives if that happens.
     
  23. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I don't see that happening in the average Joe circles as long as Firefox doesn't come preinstalled with windows: Hell some people I know would still be using ie6 and complaining about how crappy it is if I didn't install FF on their comp and set it as the default browser....
     
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    Spyda Kat Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, a sad fact. IE remains dominant because it comes as a part of the OS. However, the day that EU ruling or whatever it is to block MS from doing this goes through, is the day when FF will start doing real damage to IE's market share.
     
  26. chesieofdarock

    chesieofdarock Notebook Deity

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    Umm wow this is really just a dumb post. I can't even write anything else at this point because this post just docked my iq 50 points.
     
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  27. Surfer666

    Surfer666 Notebook Consultant

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    We can hope all we want, but in the end we'll just get results like the last several products that came out of that company.
     
  28. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    Speed and Mac don't usually go together.
     
  29. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    XD very very true. Lag + Mac = Steve Jobs
    XP + DX9 = Speed
    Vista +DX10 = Failure

    Linux = Alternative speed
     
  30. ttol

    ttol Notebook Enthusiast

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    The pics in the first post are all fakes..
     
  31. juggernautica8173

    juggernautica8173 Notebook Geek

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    Let's be realistic here people. Ubuntu Linux and Leopard are both great OS's, I've used them both so I know. But to say something so bold like "Windows 7 hopefully has..." blah blah blah "or linux and mac will jump all over it"...is ridiculous. There's too much of a stronghold from MSoft, too many businesses, corporations, familys, OLD PEOPLE, set in the Windows world. They aren't going to think "let's try a different OS", they're going to think "let's call someone to help me with this"...dert di der people dert di der...
     
  32. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    I know, but it will decrease MS's market share.
     
  33. juggernautica8173

    juggernautica8173 Notebook Geek

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    Pffft like they will even freaking notice? Lol. I wish just as much as you that Ubuntu or another good distro would become the mainstream OS competitor to Windows, but sadly it'll never happen. Human beings are too close minded to actually try and find alternatives to the reality with which they are presented. So which do you choose? The blue pill or the red pill? :D
     
  34. wearetheborg

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    [​IMG]

    Will Windows 7 be as resource heavy as Vista ? Or heaven forbid, even heavier ?

    Also note that new people enter the marketplace every year. Make windows too cumbersoome/resource heavy to use, and they might just try linux. Then those folks will serve as seed for the next round etc.
    Lets face it, the market share of linux isnt going to decrease. There are not that many people who have worked with linux for a few months, got familiar with it, then said "screw this, I'm going to windows". There has however been exodus from the other side.

    Windows is on the defensive. And its very possible that at some point linux reaches a critical mass, that forces hardware manufacturere to write linux device drivers; and then the process accelerates.
     
  35. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    We already know that a large number of corporations are going to completely skip over Vista, and are exploiting every opportunity to stick with XP.

    So what happens if the next version of Windows stinks? Corporations, who long depended on XP, are going to look for alternatives. Maybe Vista will work well enough for them by then, maybe not. But if Vista doesn't shape up, or the next version shape up, corporations are going to look for a more stable and more effective solution to their PC needs. Be in Linux, MAC OS, whatever . . . they will drive change.

    MS knows what is at stake.
     
  36. comper

    comper Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah, as Arkit and miner have already pointed out, those screenshots are indeed fake, so disregard them and go to the link miner posted instead. Those are the real screenshots and it looks exactly like Vista.

    Edit: Here's another site with Windows 7 info:

    http://www.aeroxp.org/index.php?categoryid=23&p2_articleid=164
     
  37. Arki

    Arki Super Moderator

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    Ugh...and I thought they were at least going somewhere innovative with the GUI. Sheesh...even I could whip up my own mock OS using GIMP.

    Lame.
     
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    2 years is a long time for MS to implement some new GUI innovations that are not present in current screenshots.
     
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    brainer Notebook Virtuoso

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    me wish for a pure gaming OS..
     
  40. crash

    crash NBR Assassin

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    Consoles...?
     
  41. unknowntt

    unknowntt Notebook Evangelist

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    I just have a feeling that microsoft will pick it up and people will be amazed, just my thoughts.

    While I'm not entirely "happy" with windows vista, I'm satisfied with it, if it weren't such a resource hog... The GUI is cool, up to date, streamlined, and things run relatively smoothly. All I personally would ask for, is for it to be less RAM demanding. Then again, I only do basic stuff on my computer, so others who are more into hard core stuff will disagree with me on this one.
     
  42. Gintoki

    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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    If that's all you want, then i suggest you go make a post over in the linux forum so you can use an OS you like. ;)
     
  43. surfasb

    surfasb Titles Shmm-itles

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    Yeah, two suspect releases may be detrimental to Microsoft. But have no fear. The same guy that lead the Office 2007 development team is leading the Windows 7 development.
     
  44. wojwoda

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    3D menu navigation looks like on Nokia Symbian v9.x models!!! :p :)

    Ha ha ha. Just in dreams of Ubuntu fan boys. :) :D
     
  45. Spyda Kat

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    Yea I have to admit, Office 07 is a great software package, but if what you say is true, I hope him leading 7's development is the best thing.
     
  46. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    Still, the dream is nicer than reality. Ubuntu is rolling along nicely.
     
  47. THAANSA3

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    That was the idea. Having a thread like this where everyone has a wish list and everyone else attacking said wish list was pretty silly, IMHO. Having everyone talk about what Microsoft should do was pretty silly. The reality is Windows 7 is going to be whatever Microsoft wants it to be; this will be regardless of what we all want. In our eyes, Microsoft can never do anything right. Even if they added everything in this wishlist thread to their next OS, there would still be threads on here and other boards, as well as people in the media, etc. complaining about what they didn't add.

    Read a book and you'll get back the 50 IQ points you lost. Sorry to be such an inconvenience to the truly intelligent people of the world. :cool: I hope I spelled IQ right. :p

    Yeah, you're right. Microsoft could care less about what the minority (people like those who frequent forums like this) wants. They're going to continue to put out what they want because they know that the masses are going to continue to take whatever they shove at them. We are creatures of habit and hate change. The fact is most people outside of forums like this don't even know Linux exists. Leopard is out of a lot of peoples' price range. If you ask me, Microsoft has us right where they want us.

    I like MS Office 2007, maybe this means good things for the next OS. There are many who dislike 2007, though, so there potentially will still be a lot of unhappy people.
     
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    Way to judge an OS 2+ years before its release guys. *shrugs* I have high hopes for this OS. I'm, unlike many others, glad that we have one dominant OS so you don't have to worry about things all the time. "will this OS support my app? will this game run? can I buy this piece of hardware and expect it to run without a hitch?".

    It may be selfish, I might be one of those that doesn't like change all that much, but I'm glad I can just go to any hardware store and buy something- and it works. I'm glad I can search for software online and be sure that it will run on this OS.

    I mean, just getting my WLAN up and running in Ubuntu 8.04 took quite some time. It should be simple, but it wasn't. Until I suddenly bumped into a guide that wasn't written by one of those "lulz, learn how 2 use a computer, or gb2Vistaids" users.
     
  49. THAANSA3

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    Believe me, you are not the only one with high hopes. I, too, have really high hopes for the next OS. I really think Microsoft will get more right than wrong with the next one, in light of the backlash after Vista's release. I just think that unless this new OS is something like we've never seen before, people are going to b*tch and moan. I guess it's just the nature of people, especially when it comes to Microsoft for whatever reason. All the speculation at this point is a bit crazy :) The OS is still about 2 years away (give or take), and for all we know, Microsoft could have purposely allowed these screenshots to leak just so that we don't know what they're really doing. ;) Anyway, I'll reiterate that I have high hopes too. I really hope they do well with the next OS.
     
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  50. WiseDuck

    WiseDuck Notebook Consultant

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    People will always ***** and moan unfortunately. Sometimes more than usual. I've received a lot of flak for making the 'wrong OS choice' and believe me, I'm tired of it. (I do realise I make myself look like some sort of fanboy in some posts, but not too long ago I just got tired of the complaining. All complaints IRL are usually replied to with a "stfu" right now. -_- ) Of all forums I've been to, this one has got the most users that aren't either complete MS haters or fanboys. Also, I'm a big fan of laptops which makes this forum even more awesome than it already is.

    They say they've learned from their mistakes, so it's a good start. And considering those screenshots were fakes, (Or am I mistaken?) then there's not really much we can say in this topic about the actual OS.
     
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