Yes, but if we can't speculate then what's the point of threads or hell even forums like this?
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Yeah, I hear you. We'll see what happens. Aside from the setback that I had when I downloaded SP3, I'm pretty happy with XP and Vista (I'm fortunate to be able to use both).
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They can plaster IE all over their GUI eye candy all they want. I'm still using Firefox and there's a good chance I'll still be using some sort of Windows Classic theme.
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One problem with speculation is that it often leads to misinformation. There will undoubtedly be people who will take some of this stuff as truth and make decisions based on that. Then, assuming the OS can't really do the things they "heard" it can do, they complain about the developer and then come to forums like this and post how the developer sucks and can't do anything right. There are also people who completely trash other peoples' speculative ideas. That happens a lot in forums like this.
I think that forums like this exist for far more than speculative threads, though. I think we've all been very fortunate to find real solid answers and advice from forums like this. I've been able to solve a handful problems thanks to people like Calvin, Orev, Flipfire, etc. You get to know some of the names the more you visit. There are some really nice people who always seem like they're willing to lend a helping hand. I think that's far more valuable and worthwhile than speculation. -
Yea that's what I was thinking the drawback would be, when it turns out the speculation was way over the head of the real product, people are most likely gonna b*tch about it. Can't change the world though.
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Indeed.
We can only hope for the best.
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Just a quick question regarding how much of your RAM _Vista is using: are you going just by the overall amount of RAM it uses, or have you distinguished between what it uses for background processes versus what it uses for prefetching? The reason I ask is that MS rewrote the prefetching mechanism (now called superfetch) so that it much more aggressively prefetches data based on a dynamic algorithm that "learns" from the user's actual usage habits, and fills up much more of the available RAM than prefetch on XP did. As a result, unless you differentiate between the two, _Vista may appear to be more of a RAM hog than it really is (i.e., if the primary difference in RAM usage you're noticing is due to the difference between prefetch on XP and superfetch on _Vista, then that's more a matter of increased efficiency rather than hogging resources).
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with the super marketing and plastering of stickers of windows vista supported/capable/compatible and that 90% of all new laptops and computers come with vista i dont think they will just simply drop it. what if vista really takes off with SP 2? i mean XP with SP2 really was awesome that it became standard. windows 7 is just another hype
new OS doesnt = better OS. OS+time x development = Better OS
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This is a very valid point, but we've also learned that new does sometimes mean better. However, better depends on who is looking at it. Your idea of better may not be mine. I might think that the hot new item is better because of 'x,' and you may think it's not because of 'y.' Still, your point is very valid, especially since Microsoft has done a good job of tweaking their OSes in the past. Again, it's just a waiting game and anything that any of us can say about it now would just be speculation.
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I would bet on the fact that businesses in general will be faster to adopt Office 2007 than businesses will adopt Windows 7.
The thing I noticed about 2007 is it really didn't add a lot of NEW features. It just repackaged everything into a much much easier to use interface. I thought the learning curve was gonna be higher, but it was actually much lower than say my Office 2000 to Office XP learning curve.
For one, all my old hotkeys are still there. And the interface makes finding new Live Preview makes trying new features much easier to use.
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Heh, Linux can run a 3D desktop on a pentium M processor,
ATI Mobility radeon 7500 video card with 32 mb video ram
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You're probably right in regards to what businesses will adopt first. You're also right, for the most part, about the features in MS Office 2007. Though MS didn't add many new features, the features they did add are all pretty nice features.
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MS Office 2007 rocks. I use both daily, either O2003 or O2007 is fine . . . but I think O2007 has been much more successful than Vista will be for quite some time.
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I`m still getting used to Vista,so by 2010, I should become a vista fanboy
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In what sense is MS Office 2007 more successful than Vista? I'm seriously looking for your opinion; I'm not trying to give you a hard time or anything like that.
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I would think he's saying that the general consensus of MS Office 07 is that it's a good piece of software, unlike Vista where there is mostly a negative opinion of it.
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Gates and Ballmer are officially showing off small parts of the Windows 7 UI tonight at All Things D so we will see how close (if it all
) those mockups are
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That is the biggest difference between the release of Office 2007 and Vista. PR. While they both brought ground breaking features to the table, only one was seen as a success. Regardless of how much money Vista brings in or how many features eventually become the norm, the damage has been done. The delayed release, the Vista capable lawsuit and the rash of driver incompatabilities at release has put a stain on Vista forever.
On the other side, it is safe to say, when the time comes, businesses will adopt Office 2007 with little worry or scare. What will make it even easier is how the consumer market has mostly embraced it and this provides free staff training for businesses who upgrade to 2007. -
Yes indeed. But in other news...Holy Freakholy...lol http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/27/live-from-d-gates-and-ballmer-debut-windows-7/#comments
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Multi-touch! I certainly hope (for MS' sake) that this lil presentation represents the nadir and not the zenith of Win7; otherwise, I'm going to start practicing my linux-speak so's I can be ready in 2014 when security support for XP runs out.
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Yes what about the windows 7 multitouch features? I don't know much about them, but I've heard "if you're impressed by the touch screen on the iPhone, you'll be blown away by what windows touch will do." The quote wasn't exactly as I said, but it was SOMETHING like that. I used to have an iPhone (but I sold the awesome little thing =D) and I was impressed by the touch screen. There WERE a FEW flaws I noticed on it, certain things couldn't be done. I'm looking forward to that. Maybe my next laptop will be a tablet...
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Microsoft said Vista was the last 32bit Windows. I think until there are more 64bit apps there will always be a 32bit OS.
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It's safe to say that most end-users have less than 4GB of RAM, so there you go, that's the 32-bit market. Once the 4GB of RAM becomes a standard, we'll see it fade away..
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What does this have to do with the rest of the thread?
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No, they said Windows Server 2008 is going to be the last 32-bit server OS.
http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/05/18/on-64-bit-and-windows-client.aspx -
You can use less than 4GB with a 64 bit OS.
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Why is this thread being revived?!
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I think a new thread should be made for Win7 screens...
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windows 7 = windows vista (final version)
Windows 7 Screenshots
Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Gophn, May 25, 2008.