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    Windows 7 installation help for Intel Skylake and Kaby Lake laptops

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Atom Ant, Apr 13, 2017.

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    I am very close - almost working...eliminating errors...I think I get it today....
     
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    We really appreciate your work! Fingers crossed!
     
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  3. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Maybe keep the secret for yourself, because others will come and take your work as their own and publish on youtube. Just release us a modded driver ;).
     
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    It would be nice to see your further updates, if it is working or keep crashing...
     
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    Most likely It does not work.
     
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    Btw. Has anybody found modded GPU drivers for Ryzen 2200g (Vega 8) and 2400g (Vega 11).
    Regular GPU drivers do not have these entries

    Code:
    "%AMD15DD.1%" = ati2mtag_Raven, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_15DD&REV_C6
    "%AMD15DD.2%" = ati2mtag_Raven, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_15DD&REV_C8
    "%AMD15DD.3%" = ati2mtag_Raven, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_15DD&REV_C9
    "%AMD15DD.4%" = ati2mtag_Raven, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_15DD&REV_CA
    "%AMD15DD.5%" = ati2mtag_Raven, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_15DD&REV_CB
    "%AMD15DD.6%" = ati2mtag_Raven, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_15DD&REV_D3
    "%AMD15DD.7%" = ati2mtag_Raven, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_15DD&REV_D5
    "%AMD15DD.8%" = ati2mtag_Raven, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_15DD&REV_D6
    "%AMD15DD.9%" = ati2mtag_Raven, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_15DD&REV_D7
    "%AMD15DD.10%" = ati2mtag_Raven, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_15DD&REV_D8
    
     
  7. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    I thought by AMD there is no driver issue
     
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    It turns out AMD is doing the same ******** like Intel. They have separate drivers for APUs.
    However moding AMD drivers should be easier than Intel drivers. After all APU has just Vega GPU.
    Unfortunately I do not have access to those APUs so I won't be able to check if modded drivers work.
     
  9. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Than seems my current rig is my last Windows based laptop. I'll move to MacOS, once this laptop is obsolate...
     
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    Linux is not an option?
     
  11. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Not really, if i have iphone and ipad, than laptop should use similar OS. And as I mentioned in my first post for me very important how well the OS looks. Linux probably nicer than Win 10, because any OS is nicer. But MacOS maybe even prettier than Windows 7.
     
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    Hey guys,

    I'm back. Sold my old Acer Vn7-793G and bought ASUS N580VD. Installed Windows 7 and almost everything works great. I'm so happy I can use it once again.

    I'm missing ELAN Touchpad driver. I've already tried 5-6 drivers but they won't install or won't detect my touchpad.
     
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    Is it a laptop or desktop? If its a laptop the UEFI UI is amazing I am still on old BIOS UI. Disable secure boot for W7 install.
    If you aren't using newer Slipstreamed Win 7 use Compatible or iGPU mode in Graphics config on W7 if you want to install with secure boot. If you disabled Secure boot then no need to change Graphics config!
    P.S Hide your serial number.
     
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    @Dantei
    Wait! You managed to install windows 7 with CSM option disabled?!?
     
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    No, I'm using Windows 10 right now. I had to switch back to W10 because I had some strange issues with Windows 7 when gaming - sudden drops to 20 fps for a longer period of time.
     
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    It's a laptop - ASUS N580VD to be precise.
     
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    So anybody is working on that freakin modded coffe lake igp driver for Windows 7?
     
  21. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    So far i have not seen any serious cracker who would be interested to mod a driver for Windows 7. Obviously they use Windows 10 or other, so why would they mod? It is also possible a few did for him/herself they just not publishing for public...

    So by now only for Kaby Lake exist modded driver. It is easy to mod, the latest by me is the 21.20.16.4821.
     
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    The following is information from the 1st page of an article at Phoronix, https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=coffee-uhd-graphics&num=1 a site specializing in Linux with an emphasis on hardware including graphics. It appears that linux users faced similar issues relating to Coffee Lake and graphics as do users of Win 7 & 8. The author outlines methods used to overcome limitations of the Intel Linux drivers. Hopefully this can help someone apply a similar fix for Windows. I am not a Linux technical person; I just ran across this looking for info and thought I would share it. I was disappointed to see this thread start to stagnate.

    Intel UHD Graphics 630 "Coffee Lake" On Linux

    Written by Michael Larabel in Graphics Cards on 5 October 2017. Page 1 of 4. 22 Comments

    This morning I delivered the initial Linux processor benchmarks of the Core i7 8700K and Core i5 8400 for the just-launched "Coffee Lake" desktop processors. With these Intel "Gen 8" processors, the integrated "HD Graphics" from Kabylake have been rebranded to "UHD Graphics". While there wasn't any real changes architecturally to the graphics hardware, right now the Linux support isn't quite out-of-the-box.

    When first powering on the i5-8400 and i7-8700K configurations, I was surprised to see the Intel DRM driver not working... This was connected to a 4K display and the mode-setting to it didn't happen with being stuck on the efifb driver. Of course, LLVMpipe was at play to lead to a sluggish experience...

    At first I didn't realize what was going on since the Coffee Lake PCI IDs are present in all of the components of the Intel Linux graphics driver stack, I was using Ubuntu 17.10 with its stock Linux 4.13 that is quite new, and these Coffee Lake graphics that are essentially rebranded Gen 9 GT2 graphics hardware from Kabylake were not working. When grep'ing dmesg for i915 (Intel's DRM driver name), there were just some audio references and a line about alpha support. Initially off the top of my head I figured it was some new tunable having something to do with alpha compositing or the like given all the new display work happening within the Intel space.

    Well, after then searching the contents of dmesg after finding the time today, I realize the i915.alpha_support option is actually for alpha/preliminary hardware support... Previously this was the "i915.preliminary_hw_support=1" switch for enabling early hardware support, but seems to have quietly been renamed to just "alpha". And if you are grep'ing dmesg looking for the i915 hints of what's going wrong, the actual line mentioning it's to do with alpha hardware support doesn't have any references. So just a silly little thing to be aware of if you plan on being an early Coffee Lake customer.

    When booting the Ubuntu 17.10 stock kernel with i915.alpha_support=1, 4K was working, OpenGL acceleration present, and Vulkan also working... I have yet to run into any Coffeelake graphics issues with the Core i5 8400 or Core i7 8700K yet. So I'm quite surprised Intel developers are still hiding this Coffeelake support behind the "alpha_support" flag consider these CPUs are now shipping, the Linux 4.13 stable still has it marked as stable, Linux 4.14 Git still requires the alpha flag for Coffee Lake, and even the current DRM-Next code still requires this be set. It's quite surprising especially with Coffeelake still being the Gen 9 / Kabylake-era graphics that have been well supported on Linux for effectively many months. I haven't seen any public references why it's this way or any responses from the upstream Intel Linux developers, but presumably just an oversight on their part.

    I have spent most of my UHD Graphics 630 testing so far with the Core i7 8700K and paired with the Ubuntu 17.10 base I have tested its stock kernel as well as the vanilla/upstream Linux 4.13.0, Linux 4.14 Git, and DRM-Next kernels. Additionally, both with the Mesa 17.2 stable Vulkan/OpenGL driver stack as shipped by Ubuntu 17.10 and as well with Mesa 17.3-dev Git via the Padoka PPA as of earlier today.

    Included in this article are a few different reference benchmarks of the Core i7 8700K graphics compared to other Intel integrated graphics hardware and other Linux graphics tests. Further Coffee Lake tests are being worked on for publishing in the coming days and weeks.

    -turbo111
     
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    Hi,
    I'm having this exact same problem after downgrading my Asus UX330UA laptop from Win 10 x64 to Win 7 x64. The touchpad does not work no matter how many drivers I've tried. It appears that the touchpad uses the I2C protocol rather than the Legacy PS/2 protocol. I was even able to get the touchpad (ACPI/ELAN1300) showing up under "Device Unknown" only after installing the Intel Serial IO Driver.

    Any guidance is much appreciated. I have tried many forums only to find out that the Asus touchpad does not work in Win 7 x64 for Kaby Lake processors.
     
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    julian,

    Have you tried the following:

    1. Make sure the Asus Touchpad is enabled in UEFI? The same goes for the Serial port.

    2. Reverse your USB Legacy UEFI setting ( on>off or off>on)?

    3. Turn on or off UEFI?

    I'm sure you have adjusted some of the above but it is worth double checking the settings and trying different configurations.

    Since you have tried all or many drivers on the Asus product page, have you tried the ones listed at the MS Windows Update Catalog (WUC) for the device?
    Assuming that ELAN1300 is the Hardware ID for it, WUC has 33 drivers for it:

    http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=elan1300

    Most of the drivers are for Win10 but don't assume that they will not work for Win7. MS is purposely making things difficult for Win7 users and have convinced most hardware makers to do the same. It is interesting that there are a few drivers listed for XP, but none for Vista or Win7!

    I would suggest sorting the drivers by Date at the WUC (click on the "Last Updated" column to sort) and try the oldest ones (Including XP drivers) first. If the driver does not work, maybe try toggling UEFI and/or USB Legacy UEFI on or off before going to the next driver. Keep a list of changes if you do toggle the settings.

    Not sure what else you can try. Good luck.

    turbo111
     
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    Reading the thread so far, It seems no one has got good working windows 7 drivers for 8th gen intel cpu graphics drivers?

    I decided to give it a go for my UHD 620. I got drivers to install on 15.45.23.4860 by inf hacks. The display works, but trying to play video files on either windows media player or MPC-HC crashes both players (MPC-HC crashes with a memory access violation). Trying to run WEI doesn't work either. It gets stuck on windows media section. As far as I can tell, non video activities are okish.

    I then tried inf hacks on later native drivers. They would install, but once rebooted, device manager would show the device as not active, some error.

    Has anyone been more successful in getting it working a bit better? I would like to at least get video playback, but it seems my skills fall a bit short.
     
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    After installing the Intel Serial IO Drivers available for Lenovo, I was able to get my Asus Synaptics touchpad driver recognized, but then ran into an another trouble. The device recognizes as Synaptics I2C Miniport (Device Type: Human Interface Device; Device Location: on Intel(R) Serial IO I2C Host Controller - 9D61), but the device gives an error as "This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use. (Code 12)". If I tried disabling the Intel Serial IO I2C Host Controller - 9D61 device which was separately available under System Devices, then the Synaptics I2C Miniport won't show up at all. Any thoughts on how to fix this?

    [​IMG]
     
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    The Serial IO I2C Host Controller might be needed to get the touchpad working since it was key to getting the touchpad recognized, so that would be the last thing I would disable. It sounds like your bios might not be set to let Win7 manage hardware resources. In my experience, IRQ, DMA and memory conflicts seem pretty rare ever since the release of Vista or 7.

    If you get the resource conflict fixed, you might have a working touchpad pretty quickly. Just guessing.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    What is that Oculus?

    But I do not understand, if Coffe Lake driver exist or under construction for Linux, why no driver for Windows 7? It is much more popular OS and more wanted than Linux.
    Anyway, im happy with my current rig, but once the new Nvidia GPUs are out in laptops, i will want to change the machine.
     
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    It's a political/commercial decision by Microsoft. Seems Intel/AMD/others are towing the MS line. Sad I know.
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Because of so many views, i would reccommend also my topic as pinned to the first page, i m not sure who is responsibel for that...?

    And I'm still using my Kaby Lake laptop.... :). I usually always buy the newest generation Intel based laptops, but because no Windows 7 igp driver for Coffe Lake, I m not interested at all to change laptop. Win 7 is so good in my (still) modern hardware... ;).

    Guys, just keep installing Windows 7 on your 5th, 6th, 7th gen Intel laptops, you will nothing loose or miss, just win.... ;)
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    If you have linked me to the correct place, seems the guy explaining how to do igp driver for the Intel Core i7 8550U, which is just a Kaby Lake CPU and not a Coffe Lake. So we already know how to make Kaby Lake IGP driver, even available in this topic for download. But thanks for alerting, i still keep hoping somebody makes the Window 7 IGP driver for Coffe Lake...

     
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    That method may also work for UHD 630.
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    brothers, please help,

    I disabled Secure boot and enabled Compatibility Support Module (CSM)
    and used the wonderful ASUS EZ Installer tool on my Windows 7 Home Premium ISO,

    but during the Windows 7 installation, when I select my SSD (it's all unallocated) from the partition lists I get:

    "Windows cannot be installed to this disk. This computer's hardware may not support booting to this disk. Ensure the disk's controller is enabled in the computer's BIOS menu."

    SATA mode selection is on AHCI (it's the only available)
    laptop is an Asus UX310UA
    SSD is Samsung 840 EVO 256gb

    evil microsoft!!!
     
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    Have you disabled UEFI in the BIOS?
     
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    Yes, I think (from what I understand of all this stuff).

    In the "boot" page of my BIOS I have "CSM support" set to "enabled"

    From what I read on the web:
    CSM = legacy = not UEFI
     
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    So I managed to install it on an Asus Zenbook UX310UA with Kaby Lake and Megatrends BIOS (the new and fancy one you can see on page 22 in this thread) version 308 doing the following:

    -convert disk to GPT using diskpart
    -set GPT ONLY on Rufus
    -use Windows USB Installation Tool from Gigabyte
    -set "CSM support" to "enabled" in BIOS
    -on partition selection screen, ignore error and push "next", it will work

    Remember you can summon a cmd shell with shift+F10 on the setup pages.

    What I can say to those that will follow on our steps is that when things that make more sense together don't work, just try to combine them randomly.

    Now a new nightmare begins, finding working drivers
     
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  41. cincinnatus

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    Hi guys!

    Installed the Windows 7 drivers from the previous model that supported it:
    https://www.asus.com/Laptops/ASUS-ZenBook-UX303UA/HelpDesk_Download/
    instead of
    https://www.asus.com/Laptops/ASUS-ZenBook-UX310UA/HelpDesk_Download/

    and now my "Device manager" has only one missing driver: the touchpad.

    It's the ACPI\ELAN1200

    I knew this would happen (I remembered reading "touchpad" many times in this thread)

    Unfortunately the previous model driver doesn't make it work.

    Did you find a solution friend?


    .
     
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  42. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Cannot you just manually install the win10 driver, by inf file in the device manager? Or just try different touchpad drivers from different manufacturers...


     
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    Hi Atom Ant,

    Thanks for your replay and sorry for delay.
    I did but I'll try it again asap.

    Unfortunately I have another problem now:
    Do you think a genuine Windows 7 OEM license activation will work or will it give problems because of Kaby Lake?
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    It should. Otherwise for Windows 7 exist some very good activaton solutions.
     
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    You are right, it works!

    Bought an OEM licence off ebay for 4 euro and Microsoft accepted it.
    (I couldn't activate with loaders because of GPT)

    I had to install it with GPT because although the "CSM support" option in BIOS makes MBR work, this is only true for USB ports not for the SATA port 0.
    (MBR disks are simply not seen on SATA port 0).
    They are killing MBR on the new mobos :(.

    Now I'll try again the touchpad... meanwhile bought a wireless mouse, a good solution too!
     
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    ELAN touchpad from my ASUS N580VD also doesn't want to work with any drivers under Windows 7. Already tried plenty of drivers but still no luck.
     
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    Thanks!

    It seems there's no good solution for the problem. I'm using a mouse most of the time so it's not a big deal anyway.
    I wanted to ask you something about the drivers for Windows 7 for your laptop. What modded drivers do you use for the Intel iGPU (HD 630)? And do you experience any performance loss in games?
     
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    Hey,
    I didn't mod, I am afraid I can't help you there
    The games I play don't require much anyway...
     
  50. Dantei

    Dantei Notebook Consultant

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    CS:Go for example? I experience lower fps than with Windows 10 and some stuttering. Games like to crash sometimes.
     
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