The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    Windows Vista Service Pack 1/Windows Server 2008

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Fade To Black, Feb 4, 2008.

  1. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

    Reputations:
    2,674
    Messages:
    6,039
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Most likely, as it is now available thorough MSDN as of yesterday. I just finished downloading my copy.

    Gary
     
  2. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

    Reputations:
    722
    Messages:
    3,841
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    I can't check it anymore. People should of installed it earlier...
     
  3. thisisricardo

    thisisricardo Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    9
    Messages:
    58
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I tried the hack yesterday and the second time i checked windows updates it showed up, worked perfectly. thanks!
     
  4. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

    Reputations:
    722
    Messages:
    3,841
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    You're welcome. It seems that it will download it after all...
     
  5. BMonk

    BMonk Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    80
    Messages:
    258
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Can someone tell me where I will find the build version, or number. I downloaded the vista SP1 x64 standalone, and it worked great. But I uninstalled it, and gave this a try, to see if there was a difference, and it installed just fine. But I can't seem to find the Build version now.

    Seems like when I installed the standalone package, the build # showed up in system details, where it isn't showing anything now. I just says Service Pack 1
     
  6. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

    Reputations:
    2,275
    Messages:
    3,990
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion

    Look for buildlab
    6001.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840
     
  7. BMonk

    BMonk Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    80
    Messages:
    258
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    My file transfers still seem very slow. Was getting about 3mb per second going frm external usb drive, to internal. Maybe I should install sp1 on a clean vista install? Any insight will help.

    Thanks
     
  8. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

    Reputations:
    722
    Messages:
    3,841
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    It might help.
     
  9. eXtraBulleT

    eXtraBulleT Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    123
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Can someone confirm that tomorrow Feb.27 is when Windows Server 2008 Edition is coming out?

    EDIT: Oops didn't look at the bottom in a small font:

    Registered attendees must by 18 years old by February 27, 2008 to attend this event. For those eligible, you must be 21 years old by February 27, 2008 to attend the Launch Evening Celebration.

    Product giveaway kit good only for attendees of 2008 Launch Wave event, events that are targeted towards IT professionals. Limit one launch giveaway kit per person. All kits must be claimed at the event. This offer is non-transferrable and expires on June 30, 2008 while supplies last. Offer is not redeemable for cash. Taxes, if any, are the sole responsibility of the recipient.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 8, 2015
  10. acaurora

    acaurora Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    259
    Messages:
    1,213
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I installed Server 2008 on my desktop on a seperate hard drive... and it works like a dream. There are some nice guides to help you go from the barebones core that Server 2008 starts as and adding the "modules" that make it look and operate like Vista... only faster!

    Now if only I could get a key for it, lol...

    It's really fast, really responsive, had no problems running programs / drivers and such. Awesome OS.
     
  11. eXtraBulleT

    eXtraBulleT Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    123
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I agree with you, i also tried out Win2008 Server Datacenter RC1, great OS - my next vista replacement as soon as it comes out.
     
  12. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

    Reputations:
    722
    Messages:
    3,841
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    I've had the final version of Server 2008 Datacenter x64 installed since the 5th of this month and it's working great for me.
     
  13. iaTa

    iaTa Do Not Feed

    Reputations:
    1,328
    Messages:
    2,675
    Likes Received:
    197
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Add me to the list of Server 2008 lovers. Soooo much better than Vista.

    Absolutely love it. Oh and acaurora you don't need a key ;)
     
  14. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    455
    Messages:
    4,674
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    It's really better? Can you use it for normal things like you would do with Vista or....? Is it the same drivers...?

    Using it for free for 240 days is more than what I need. I format each 3-4 months xD.
     
  15. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

    Reputations:
    722
    Messages:
    3,841
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Yeah, besides Sidebar (and Snipping Tools apparently) you can have what you normally have in Vista.
    It's not bloated from the start, you install what you want to.
     
  16. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    455
    Messages:
    4,674
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
  17. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,024
    Messages:
    7,755
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    wait what os do you have a x64 or x86.
     
  18. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

    Reputations:
    722
    Messages:
    3,841
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    I know you can import the Sidebar, but don't have anyone with a Vista SP1 to give it to me (since I don't want to re-install Vista on my system again).
    Use a download manager to download that file JCMS.
     
  19. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    455
    Messages:
    4,674
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    I'm on it right now. Is it me or there are no 3d effects on Aero? I mean, it feels like the XP transform packs.
     
  20. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

    Reputations:
    2,883
    Messages:
    3,468
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Um, yes you do?
    If you want to use it legally, you do.
    Otherwise it's piracy, *even* if you download it from Microsoft.

    Good for you, but you're only allowed to do that once, so a *total* of 240 days to evaluate the OS. As above, going beyond that is piracy.
     
  21. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    455
    Messages:
    4,674
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    I figured that.

    I'll probably have to use XP Pro for school next year though


    Also, how do you change the internet security profile outside of the Administrator account? I mean, I got it all working like I want but on my other session, I can still only go into the trusted zones (and adding them for each website is somewhat annoying). Lotro doesn't want to run under the admin session

    EDIT: Anyone running a network with it? When I access my network, before I could see the router + each computers, now I only see the computers and if I want access them, it accesses then tell me I don't have the rights to access X file. When I was under Vista, it asked me for a user name/password... then everything worked
     
  22. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

    Reputations:
    722
    Messages:
    3,841
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    There was a link here posted earlier about how to get Aero working (basically you have to install the Desktop Experience pack in Server Manager and enable the sound & themes services).
     
  23. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    455
    Messages:
    4,674
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    3D Flips works (it wasn't on the bar >_>). The only thing missing now is the 3D effect when opening/closing windows , no big deal though
     
  24. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

    Reputations:
    722
    Messages:
    3,841
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    What effect?
     
  25. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    455
    Messages:
    4,674
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    If you look carefully, you can in Vista that when you open/close a window, it closes on a 3D motion, like it stands up/goes down. You have to look carefully and that's where the "Aero is slow" comes from.
     
  26. coolguy

    coolguy Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    805
    Messages:
    4,679
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    106
    You can change that effect in advanced system properties in the performance section. Uncheck "Animate windows when minizing and maximizing". This is not related to the aero.
     
  27. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    455
    Messages:
    4,674
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    You can do on the old-plain windows theme???


    I tried the side bar, it says "error, data protection prevents it from running" and when I want to add it in "don't use data protection", it says that it must stay on -_-
     
  28. eXtraBulleT

    eXtraBulleT Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    123
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Just a heads up for people who wanna try out Windows server 2008. It is VERY VERY customizable, meaning sound won't work even if you install the drivers, Wireless LAN won't work either, unless you manually enable it from the 'Services' window / features << (similar to Windows Add / Remove Features in Vista, except it has a lot more inside).
     
  29. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

    Reputations:
    722
    Messages:
    3,841
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
  30. XyKo

    XyKo Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    26
    Messages:
    81
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Edit. After clicking on it, it said Beta.
     
  31. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    455
    Messages:
    4,674
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Are you on X64?
     
  32. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

    Reputations:
    722
    Messages:
    3,841
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    What beta and what x64?
     
  33. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    455
    Messages:
    4,674
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Before he edited is post :)
     
  34. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

    Reputations:
    722
    Messages:
    3,841
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    OK then, makes sense.
     
  35. Mr. Wonderful

    Mr. Wonderful Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    449
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    31
    So, how much longer are we thinking we have to wait here before it's available to download off Microsoft.com? Any word at all? Next week? The week after that? My guess would probably be the week after, but who knows. They might surprise us. Does Microsoft's website's downloads update on Tuesdays as well?
     
  36. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

    Reputations:
    2,275
    Messages:
    3,990
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Supposedly, it will be AVAILABLE March 18th---but not mandatory. It will become a critical update in June, I believe.
     
  37. coolguy

    coolguy Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    805
    Messages:
    4,679
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    106
    No it's coming on march 18th. Hopefully earlier than that too, 11th march.
     
  38. coolguy

    coolguy Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    805
    Messages:
    4,679
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Security updates are released on the 2nd tuesday of every month but not service packs.
     
  39. theZoid

    theZoid Notebook Savant

    Reputations:
    1,338
    Messages:
    5,202
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    206
    The licensing fees are outrageous for home users for WS08, unless someone knows of an 'upgrade' price anywhere? anyone? This is the kind of OS that is for me :D
     
  40. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    455
    Messages:
    4,674
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Is a 240 days trial, no activation not enough for you?
     
  41. theZoid

    theZoid Notebook Savant

    Reputations:
    1,338
    Messages:
    5,202
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    206
    Yeah, I saw that...but I make my living on this thing and doing a clean install is a big deal...I wouldn't want to do that every 6 months, no way.....no discount for Vista users? I haven't been able to find anything looking briefly.
     
  42. dragonteeth5

    dragonteeth5 Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    `If u Could do a clean install 1 time 6 month a time isnt a problem, if u couldnt do a clean install then i dont see how u can get vista. Betweeen why is vista good. U like how it looks or its fuction, I dont think it has anything different from XP, And XP would use less rams
     
  43. theZoid

    theZoid Notebook Savant

    Reputations:
    1,338
    Messages:
    5,202
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    206
    Yep....anyone have a crack? LOL
     
  44. swarmer

    swarmer beep beep

    Reputations:
    2,071
    Messages:
    5,234
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    You know why you're not finding any great deals for home users? Because WS08 is not intended for home users! So I wouldn't bother looking for any deals. If there is an upgrade price, I would expect it to be for users of WS03, not Vista.
     
  45. Tarheelscubs

    Tarheelscubs Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    4
    Messages:
    192
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    So when is the official SP 1 for Vista becoming available for download? :confused:
     
  46. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

    Reputations:
    722
    Messages:
    3,841
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Windows Server 2008 can be used as a workstation OS without any problems at all. The only missing thing from Datacenter (what I've got installed) is Windows Sidebar. Besides that you have plenty of features, like RAM hot-swap :).
     
  47. theZoid

    theZoid Notebook Savant

    Reputations:
    1,338
    Messages:
    5,202
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    206
    If I get one more looping BSOD in Vista I'm going to pay the license fee!! XP is NOT an option :D :D
     
  48. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

    Reputations:
    722
    Messages:
    3,841
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    106
    I guess that you can get Standard for something like 1k.
     
  49. swarmer

    swarmer beep beep

    Reputations:
    2,071
    Messages:
    5,234
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    LOL...

    Alright Microsoft, I've had it. If Vista crashes again then I'm threatening to buy your really expensive OS! ;)

    btw I think the WS08 Web Server edition (i.e. without Windows client licenses) is similar in price to Vista Ultimate retail. (Not saying it's a bargain or anything....)

    Also, my understanding is that it's the same at the core as Vista SP1... it's just configured a bit differently. Most features turned off by default, performance tuned for server use rather than desktop use, plus a few extra server apps (for example, IIS web server). So I wouldn't expect it to fix any BSODs that Vista SP1 won't fix. I'm not sure it won't, but I wouldn't expect it to.
     
  50. theZoid

    theZoid Notebook Savant

    Reputations:
    1,338
    Messages:
    5,202
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    206
    I saw it for a measley 515 bux American somewhere... :)
     
← Previous pageNext page →