Windows7/8 - Updates to hide to prevent Windows 10 Upgrade / Disable Telemetry

I was wondering what happened to KB3050265 on the list on page 1 and the "Remove Telemetry-Win10 Upgrade Updates Script"? I know it was there on Feb 22, 2016.

(Btw: Thank you for making and keeping up this list. It’s a fantastic job

 

I think I removed it because it fixes an issue in Windows update. See: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/3frcib/heads_up_kb3050265_fixes_major_memory_leak_in/

Is there any reason you think it should be re-added?

PS: Thanks for noticing

 

Thanks Phoenix! I saw the post below by Omnberry.

His comment concerns me a bit. I am grateful for both of your feedback!

You have organized this remarkable thread, so I'll go with your gut instinct. (Plus, time is precious, and I'd love to go your Shortcut route). However, as the "thread creator", do you think uninstalling bad updates (per Omnberry's post) leaves leftovers? Should I go piece by piece? Or are you confident the Shortcut will work?

Whatever you think. Thanks too all! Thanks Phoenix & Omnberry(sp?).

 

if it was my system, I would go through the list one by one to avoid left oevers when the bad updates are uninstalled. The batch file is meant for systems that have all the updates installed

 

Looks like m$ are hellbent on making me use Windows 10. Presenting the next step taken to get me to do so. As discussed here: http://news.softpedia.com/news/wind...g-automatically-on-windows-7-pcs-501651.shtml

Maybe its time to turn Updates off indefinitely and just try to forget what M$ is trying to do. Failing that we will probably soon have to disconnect from the internet just to keep our preferred OS!?!

 

Just install the updates that came out before all the Win 10 dilemma, then turn off updates. Get yourself a good antivirus tool and forget about the updates. Since even in security updates they sneak in Win 10 ****.

 

Windows 10 being pushed automatically again! Microsoft will probably apologize soon, ooooooops. Classical Micro$h4ft swiss cheese:

If you don’t want Windows 10, do this!

 

I looked up the link and followed the direction for the group policy editor but couldn't find the. ( turn of updates to the latest operating system or os. I have 8.1 pro so maybe it's different than 7. ?

 

They must of removed the option in group policy editor to turn of update to the latest os.
I'm clearly in right spot . I have options to automatic updates detection frequency and such .

 

From Phoenix's Win 7 Thread (I guess its same for Win 8):
"Note: the last item only appears once you have installed the Windows Updates to enable you to prevent upgrading to Windows 10 (although I'm not sure how effective this is) so remember to go back to GPEDIT once we are done with the next phase (Windows Updates)"

So in my opinion youre better off if that option is not there because to me that means part of your system doesnt know about Win 10 yet.
Best case is that your system doesnt know about Win 10 at all.

 

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I think there is a minor flaw when following the link, which may cause Player2’s problem.
At the bottom of Phoenix's link it says:
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“Additionally, you may want to do the following to improve the blocking further.

1. Set the preferences DisableOSUpgrade and DisableGWX in the Registry to block the upgrade to Windows 10. Click on the link for instructions on how to do that.”
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Below the picture in this link it says:
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“Windows users have two options to block the upgrade to Windows 10. First, by using the Group Policy (only available on Pro, Business and Enterprise editions).”
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I don’t think this option is available to Pro users unless you have installed:

Win 7: KB3050265 replaced by KB3065987

Win 8.1: KB3050267 replaced by KB3065988
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If you don’t want those updates, you can use the second option, the registrey fix, (also found at):

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351
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Windows registry
Important Follow the steps in this section carefully. Serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly. Before you modify it, back up the registry for restoration in case problems occur.

To block the upgrade to Windows 10 through Windows Update, specify the following registry value:

Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate
DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1
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This is what I use . (and GWX Control Panel!)

 

Thank you . That makes sense why I don't see option in gp editer. I will do it with registry just for an added measure.

 

Thanks to @HTWingNut
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-10.762434/page-266#post-10220625

 

On Windows 10 Enterprise Domains supporting Windows Pro desktops, Microsoft is now going around the System Administrators Blocking Windows 10 Upgrades using the Tools Provided by Microsoft - that also are supposed to Block GWX Windows 10 Upgrade Nagging - to plead with End Users to Demand Windows 10 upgrades from their System Administrators.

Microsoft Shames Administrators Who Block Windows 10 Upgrades With Nag Screens
http://hothardware.com/news/microsoft-is-back-up-to-its-old-windows-10-upgrade-tricks

" Xaume zybch • 4 days ago
Would you please post your phone number so that we may transfer the calls from executives or the clerk on the 20th floor that demand an elaborate explanation on why they can't upgrade to Windows 10 (While they can't even function if their icons moved half inch to the left)?"

" UberGuidoZ zybch • 4 days ago
Because end users are frequently ignorant to what goes on. I get enough messages in a day for assistance that I don't need hundreds more with "Microsoft says I should ask you about upgrading to Windows 10!" I blocked it exactly how Microsoft said I should because we KNOW it won't work on many business customers' systems (thanks to 3rd party apps they rely on to run their business and do their daily work NOT supporting it.) But now Microsoft has decided to go AROUND the tools they provided and encourage END USERS to start asking questions. The icon is a waste of space and resources. The questions that are now going to come up are a waste of MY time and resources. You're right, it's not sneaky - it's more like a stab in the back."

 

When I first heard about this I thought it was just a joke. Guess not

 

It does seem like "crazy" behavior for a Professional Software company like Microsoft to betray their relationship with their Enterprise System Administrators.

For Microsoft, this is their bread and butter revenue stream. Risking the pot of Gold for "free" Windows 10 Upgrades seems like "crazy" behavior.

MS must be under a lot of pressure from somewhere to make Windows 10 upgrades happen - no matter the cost to their personal corporate reputation, and primary revenue stream core.

If you think about it, Microsoft benefits from people *not* upgrading for free, requiring customers to pay for the upgrades later through the usual Enterprise Systems licenses.

Letting the client do what is best for them, on their own schedule, puts more money into Microsoft's coffers than pushing these free upgrades.

So, what the heck is going on??

 

New untrained managers that got their positions through personal connections instead of skill would be my first guess

 

The end results sure suggest that, and I think this edict comes from much higher up, something this silly could only be pushed through from the top

Or, are those the skill-less newbs you are referring to?

 

Either that or they get boni for reaching Win 10 targets and are thus blinded by greed

 

It does but there stock holders love it. Since W10 was released in July there stock price went from $43.40 to $53.45 . That said someone is making lots of money. They don't care what we think as long as there stock price keeps going up and stock holders are happy.

 

Said be a wise man.

 

Hello all. I finally have time to go one by one. However, my initial set-up screen is different than on Phoenix's page #1. I don't want to screw this up, so I apologize in advance if my question is basic.
I looked around for a long time before posting here. Is there a Master List of any sort that identifies all updates? I'm only prompted for 8 "Important Updates" and 11 "Recommended Updates". Can I install all of these? It was such a pain to get this computer on Win7 Pro. I don't want to F*** anything up. Thanks for any help in advance!
https://imgur.com/a/E05fK

 

That happens usually with some OEM systems that come pre-updated.

Just install all the updates, then check for updates again, then install the new ones if you find more, then continue, until you search for updates and there are none.

Finally, run the batch file in the first post of this thread, then wait for 30 mins before restarting. Now restart again and check for updates, if you find any updates, hide them and turn off Automatic updates. Then manually check every week as the bad ones will keep re-appearing

PS: I recommend you take a system image of your current state as a backup before you do anything. Use the free Macrium Reflect

 

Thanks again Phoenix! I'm wondering if anyone has downloaded the GWX Control Panel before doing all the updating. I've been doing that as I process these updates. Since the updates take so much time to download/install I've been doing it here & there. Can you see any flaws with doing the initial set-up with the GWX Control Panel installed? Thank you sir!

 

Hey guys . Turned my laptop on after not using it for a couple days and guess what.
Kb3035583 is back again for like the 8th time.
The get windows 10 update.
I'm on 8.1 but I'm sure it's pushed to 7 users also.
Anyway check updates before installing.
Peace.

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What do you guys think of this new program:

Never 10: prevent upgrades to Windows 10

 

This article does some behind the scenes discussion on what MS registry settings are supposed to control Windows 10 Upgrades, and mentions GWX Control Panel:

"and running a third-party software like GWX Control Panel which does a great job at informing you and blocking update attempts."

I use GWX Control Panel, and all my registry settings match what is discussed in the article:

Spoiler

GWX Control Panel also cleans up after an Upgrade Attempt, finding and allowing for deletion of files and folders created and downloaded by Microsoft.


GWX now has a Monitoring Mode which watches for changes to those registry values and watches for the appearance of Windows 10 Upgrade download folders / files.

This GWX Control Panel Monitoring Mode addition is due to user reports that Windows 10 Upgrade action still occurred even after setting those values in the registry. MS is either ignoring those settings, or resetting them through Windows Update, or otherwise working around the users desire to stop the Windows 10 Upgrade.

The Monitoring Mode went off a couple of times right around the time the Monitoring Mode was introduced, but I haven't seen any alerts since then. At the time I needed to use GWX Control Panel functions to delete the Windows 10 Upgrade Download folder and files, and re-disable Windows OS Upgrades.

The article is good background info, but there's not enough to it to use in replacement of GWX Control Panel:
http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

GWX Control Panel does the same registry settings as mentioned in the Article + goes a few steps further - cleaning out downloads, folders, and does monitoring on all the registry values and hotspots on the disk that might get touched should MS engineer a away around the established polices and settings.

 

so let me ask you this, can a user rely on GWX Control Panel only without the need for the huge list of updates to avoid in this thread? Like will the GWX Control Panel block those bad updates or does one still have to hide them manually?

 

We still need to block the Telemetry and Windows 10 OS Upgrade related KB's manually. Find them, hide them, and only allow the updates through that we want to allow through.

The GWX Control Panel will clean up previous Windows 10 OS Upgrade downloads, and change the registry settings to stop future ones.

Running GWX Control Panel in Monitoring mode all the time is a good idea if you allow Windows Updates automatically.

I only run GWX Control Panel in Monitoring Mode while I manually do Windows Updates - for protection should MS decide to play dirty again. This is what alerted me to MS changing the registry settings and starting the Windows 10 OS Upgrade again.

But, it wouldn't hurt to leave GWX Control Panel in Monitoring Mode all the time anyway.

GWX Control Panel Monitoring Mode doesn't block the Windows Update KB updates.

GWX Control Panel Monitoring Mode alerts us to the actions those Windows Update activities might trigger that will re-enable OS Upgrades.

We still need to use GWX Control Panel manually re-disable Windows 10 Upgrades and manually delete the folders / files MS downloads in preparation for the Windows 10 OS Upgrade.

 

I'm still working on these updates. I'm doing them 1x1.

Anyway, forgive me if this has already been addressed, but I ran across a very weird update...

KB915597 (Definition 1.215.1666.0) <<An Updated Version (on 03/25/2016) supposedly needed w/ Windows Defender.

**What struck me as weird is this latest version said "cannot be uninstalled once installed". Delete this post if I'm unnecessarily adding to its length. Thanks.

 

I'm not a moderator so I cannot delete anything. This thread is for discussion so no harm done.

Anyway, that is a Windows Defender update and has no effect on telemetry or Windows 10 upgrade

 

Question. (Sorry, to hijack this thread! I'm being Really cautious as I think I'm almost done)

**On Page #1, I see no mention of .NET Framework 4.6.1 (KB3102433). Are all .NET Framework updates safe? I didn't see NET Framework 4.6.1 on the Screen-Saver screenshots page #1 (which were done a while back)... so is 4.6.1 safe? I searched this thread for any mention. Hopefully some of my questions will help another newbie.

Thanks!

[PS (for Newbies) -So I've been doing Updates/Hide, all while running the GWX Control Panel. Just a heads-up to any newbies (like me), don't click "Clear Windows Update Cache" on the GWX unless you're damn sure you've hidden, or not installed everything & anything undesirable. Post #779 helped me out a lot, as I was blindly using the GWX -and had installed items like Telemetry and other crap I didn't want. So I had to do a system restore and start from scratch b/c I had clicked the GWX "Clear Windows Update Cache".]

 

Found A newer Telemetry. Update KB3075249

"Update that adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7"

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075249

 

I like your moxie! However, I think this update was already flagged. Thank you for mentioning however!

 

I think I've finally finished. Two questions. One I posted earlier. Again, sorry if the first one I've noted below is a very basic question.

1 - Are all Microsoft .NET Framework updates Ok to install? I haven't installed 4.6.1 yet -but I will if it's Ok. Maybe .NET Framework updates are always Ok? I don't like the time it was issued, so I'm being cautious.

2 - Do you guys still have the Windows Anytime Update Icon visible on your Windows Update Page? See Image below. I've circled the Icon in Red. I've done (I think) every step page #1, and also have the GWX installed and in Monitor Mode. I'm pretty sure I'm clean of Windows 10 Herpes, but that Windows Anytime Update Icon (on Control Panel > Windows Updates) is a little disconcerting.

Thanks so much to all contributors in this post. It's the best I've found! Peace!

 

I don't have that showing in Windows 8.1 after using GWX Control Panel to clean up.

I didn't manually edit the registry entries though, I let GWX Control Panel handle all of that.

If your GWX Control Panel shows you are clear, it might be because it is checking the settings - and they were already made by you - so it assumes things are all good.

If your GWX Control Panel dialog doesn't show the same as mine for status, try doing the operations again via GWX Control Panel, reboot and see if that clears it for you.

As noted, don't use the Clear Windows Update Cache option.

Spoiler

 

Thanks for replying hmscott.

My GWX is reading like yours. I'll revisit page #1 and double-check all my installed updates. Maybe I'll run the Script from @Ethrem.

*Could it be because I have not installed the .NET Framework 4.6.1 (KB3102433)? <Is the 4.6.1 .NET Framework OK to download & install?
I'm being cautious b/c of its release on 02/09/2016, and secondly, Page #1 compiled by Phoenix only went as far as 4.5.2 (which I realize may be due to the screenshots preceding this NET Framework update).

Again, thank you all for the help & good feedback!

 

@Phoenix I checked the @Ethrem script and it is missing some of the new KB's to uninstall/block - like KB3139929 - the new "free" Advertising "security" update.

The date on the script download is 3/9, and there are a few new KB's to block/uninstall added since then.

Can you please separate out the new KB's not yet in Ethrem's script in the KB list to uninstall in Post #1, with a note that these must be done manually in addition to running Ethrem's script?

@Riley Martin - you could try setting the registry values back - remove the ones you added - reboot, and then run GWX Control Panel, then it will apply it's full set of changes that might also include showing the OS Upgrade option on the Windows Update dialog - it's possible GWX Control Panel only samples changes to determine status/state and misses checking for that specific setting.

As far as which KB's to install, I have taken a more conservative approach, one which I wouldn't have recommended before the recent rash of MS tomfoolery with KB's, I don't install any new KB's unless I am sure I need them.

Right now I have 88 hidden updates. That's an amazing number of updates considering I have only been hiding all KB's for a few weeks now.

Windows 8.1 has been stable for a long time for me, so I am not convinced I need any KB's except to humor MS's silliness - so I just stopped installing them.

I can't recommend this for everyone, and as a rule you should check each KB for need and decide what to install - but after doing that for a while I haven't seen a single KB I need to install, so have been hiding all the new ones for review later, and later hasn't arrived yet

So I can't recommend whether or not to install those .NET updates, as I haven't installed them either. And, everything is working fine for me.

 

Installing .net stuff is pretty much optional. Only necessary when a program needs it to run.

If it is missing and is a required component, Windows will automatically throw a request prompt to download and install. (Unless someone disabled this feature.)
Then again ... most programs that need .net have already included them in their own installer.

 

And we are talking about .NET updates, so the base install is already installed and the game / app is functioning.

.NET updates are another subject, it's possible to mess up an app by installing a .NET KB update - you need to roll back if the app starts acting up.

So that is another reason to not do a KB update, or roll it back should it cause app problems.

 

Doh reading comprehension failure

 

Or my way

Spoiler: Win updates

 

0 Updates is also a valid method, as long as you update all of your hardware drivers, and have complete Windows functionality

At 204 Updates I could likely get away with far fewer myself. It would be nice to have a more streamlined install, but I don't have the time to winnow them out.

Given all the Windows 8.1 problems at release, before patches arrived, I have to believe you could benefit from installing some of those patches

 

Why install trash from M $, before you see the need? The simplest solution is often the best. This is on my BGA KILLER. Still on Win X which I have to find a solution to what I should . My Aw 17 still have Win 7 Pro, and with the same minimum amount of updates that @Mr. Fox has .

 

I have just checked the list and it contains all the listed updated in post 1.

I will reupload it now. Please check and tell me if anything is missing

 

Hi Phoenix, it's still not there, and the modified date of the file on MediaFire is still 03-09.

Spoiler

 

ok I renamed the file to v2 now. Seems like the old file is still in mediafire's cache. Check now please

 

This is so weird, I am seeing the new name in the link, but the result that MediaFire brings up still has the same Uploaded date, but the file downloaded is differently named:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/s6ehdcstlmnbgg1/Remove_Telemetry-Win10_Upgrade_Updates_v2.bat

And, it was my bad on the search, note I used KB3139929 instead of 3139929 as a search token... the format in the script is kb:3139929 - which it finds in original file as well... sorry. Look at the screen shots in my other posts.

The Upload date is what threw me, a date of 03/09 couldn't have the latest stuff, but it looks like MediaFire keeps the original item Upload date?

Maybe MediaFire has a way to change the Upload Date/time stamp when updating? Or maybe make a whole new upload rather than updating the current one? Not sure how that date / time stamp is staying the same.

All good now, Thank you

 

Maybe you guys could post the script to pastebin or something.

 

Another utility that just came out:

Never10
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm

article:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/30...er10-vs-josh-mayfields-gwx-control-panel.html