Windows7/8 - Updates to hide to prevent Windows 10 Upgrade / Disable Telemetry

This was all done on a VM specifically just to see how the 5 year rollup worked. I might try a bit more tonight.

 

Windows Update finished scanning a fresh install of W7 SP1 x64 Swedish after three and a half hours using a 100 Mbit LAN.
There are 166 important updates, and the big KB3125574 Convenience rollup update is not even there.

Just to recap, when I downloaded and installed both KB3125574 and KB3020369 from Catalog and started WU afterwards I only got 33 important updates: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...isable-telemetry.780476/page-84#post-10258670

Installing KB3020369 now just to see if it will pop up in WU.

 

Greetings everyone, is there a list of "approved/safe," updates where I can install them one by one? Yes, call me crazy, but it is my personal preference and I would much rather do that than the shotgun effect. I am only concerned about patching up security vulnerabilities / system stability fixes, although I don't really do much on my laptop that would leave it vulnerable. It's more so for the peace of mind of knowing that I have done what I can to a reasonable extent...ie....I'm not to the level of a tin foil hat, rather just common sense of doing the obvious and what's necessary.

There is an example at the bottom of the OP where it had one KB with instructions....are there a list of more of those safe KB's? (In order to avoid having to cross referencing them all..)

Thanks in advance.

 

safe list? isn't what this thread is about?

 

That's not the question that was being asked. Let me rephrase:

Is there a list of safe / approved updates available for Windows?

Thank you.


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I get your question, but the list is this thread, it shows you all the bad updates to avoid including the evil update, all are marked in the first post.

Additionally, you can use
Simplix Pack to update Live Win7 System/ Integrate hotfixes into Win7 distribution

It installs only the safe updates minus the bad ones like the telemetry and Windows 10 updates ones

 

Thank you. It's greatly appreciated.

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I think the complete post can be of use, like if you want to integrate IE11:
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/th...tem-Integrate-hotfixes-into-Win7-distribution

 

yeah I didn't post it because if one isn't a member, they can't see the post unless they are logged in.

 

Original post: http://forums.mydigitallife.info/th...tem-Integrate-hotfixes-into-Win7-distribution

All credit goes to gamazet at MDL.

 

That's a huge list, and dependent on what software you also have installed beyond the Base OS.

Basically we try to find the bad ones in the bunch, and everything else not specifically mentioned is a big unknown

Maybe they are all bad!!

 

Never mind that even with just the base OS it's not possible to create a single list that everyone can use. For a start there are the myriad editions of Windows 7 with different features and slightly different patch sets. Then there are 32-bit vs. 64-bit differences, made more complex by the fact that 64-bit versions receive some of the 32-bit updates for the WoW environment. Then there are the Windows 7 N, K, KN and E variants of all of the above which all have their own different sets of update dependencies.

 

Very true. I think going into this we new that. But for most users this thread is the one to watch. I think the guys here are doing a great job.

 

All updates except DX12, no thanks noobsoft.

 

Is KB3020369 a bad one? I've re-read pages #84-87 five times now, so I'm sorry to potentially ask another noob question.

I see the crux of the issue (roll-ups vs. individual). I have installed KB3020369 -again, is that a bad one? I don't have KB3125574 installed.

I've read the MS report for KB3020369, and the report notes KB3042058(WinlogonSpying). (I can not tell if 3042058 is included in KB3020369 (ie, rolled-up/bundled), or if KB3020369 is dependent on a previous installation of KB3042058). (I'd guess the former) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3020369

I don't have KB3042058, as it's on the list page #1, but I have KB3020369.

I've recently begun finding SFC Scan corrupted files, which has me trying to figure out where I went wrong.

Post #863 has me wanting to give-up.

Oh yeah, this link may interest some (seemed applicable to many posts page #85)...
http://winaero.com/blog/convenience-rollup-for-windows-7-sp1-is-like-windows-7-sp2/

 

So... KB2670838 is called the EVIL UPDATE according to the first post. However, without it I just found out that I can't install Rainmeter v4 or later anymore. What do I do?

 

Well I guess no one here uses Rainmeter on Windows 7... I guess I have no choice but to install the Platform Update in that case. I'll wait until end of June before doing any updates so that Microsoft gets rid of all the stupid Win10 upgrade prompts.

 

well the Evil update is not THAT bad, it messes up fonts for *some* systems with perhaps a crappy graphics driver. Try it out. It's not one of the telemetry or Windows 10 upgrade updates

 

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@Phoenix > I wait years for this & I'm a week late to the party?

• Convenience Rollup for Windows 7 SP1 is like Windows 7 SP2 > +7/ 8.1 Monthly RollUp
• Beware: Windows 7 Convenience Rollup adds telemetry
• Simplifying updates for Windows 7 and 8.1
• Convenience rollup update for Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1

How does the new SP2 / Rollup factor into 7/8 upd8s to hide, as well as your eqwally epic NBR Windows 7 Clean Installation Guide ... install SP2, use @Ethrem's nasty batch file? Remove Telemetry-Win10 Upgrade Updates Script v2.1

 

I'd rather use the Simplix Pack as it installs all the update minus the telemetry/Windows 10 upgrade ones

 

Upgradegate: Microsoft’s Upgrade Deceptions Are Undermining Windows 10 (Updated)
https://www.thurrott.com/windows/wi...fts-upgrade-deceptions-undermining-windows-10

"For months now, I’ve complained about the software giant’s heavy-handed tactics in trying to trick customers into upgrading to Windows 10. But a recent change to the Get Windows 10 advertisement that is forced on Windows 7 and 8.1 users takes things entirely too far. This is indefensible.

Frankly, this entire episode has been indefensible, with Microsoft introducing a non-stoppable, non-hideable advertisement on several hundred million PCs from around the world. And then upgrading that advertisement to thwart those who do seek to remove or hide it. It has changed the language of the ad, made no clear cancel choice available, and jammed it into the “recommended” updates that auto-install via Windows Update. If you read this site, listen to Windows Weekly or What the Tech, you know how bad things are. It’s been a constant refrain.

Well, I’ve had it.

Last week, Microsoft silently changed Get Windows 10 yet again. And this time, it has gone beyond the social engineering scheme that has been fooling people into inadvertently upgrading to Windows 10 for months. This time, it actually changed the behavior of the window that appears so that if you click the “Close” window box, you are actually agreeing to the upgrade. Without you knowing what just happened...

My God, Microsoft. Just stop."

Posted on May 24, 2016 by Paul Thurrott in Windows 10 with 376 Comments

 

this is just sick man

 

Hold out. Only 2 months and 4 days and this will end

 

Until after the "free upgrade" expires and peoples machines automatically upgrade and they are told they have to pay for windows 10.

 

This may have been mentioned in a previous post, but KB2882822 is noted on page #1 to be installed, yet it is on the naughty-list (albeit noted as a "fishy" update). I'm sure it was a huge pain in the a55 to compile those helpful, awesome screenshots (but maybe a penciled asterisk on page #1 could prove informative or helpful to noobs -next to KB2882822 ?). Thanks again to Phoenix and all contributors to this thread.

 

Maybe it's a bit overdue but I wanted to share this tool anyway. I'm using GWX Control Panel on all of my customer's Windows 7 and 8.1 computers.

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/2015/08/using-gwx-stopper-to-permanently-remove.html

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GWX is very easy to use. Open as administrator, and you'll see if, for example, the Windows 10 icon is enabled, the Windows 10 app is enabled, Windows 10 upgrades are allowed, if non-critical Windows 10 updates are enabled, and if there is a Windows 10 download folder.

You can also remove or disable all of the above options if you want Windows 10 to stop spamming. Or enable them again when you want to upgrade in the near future.

 

It's a good tool, just a couple words of caution. Never click "clear windows update cache", as you'll lose all reference points to past updates... also, I found when I've used the GWX to disable the win10 icon, subsequent system file checker results would show corrupt files (so instead of using GWX to disable the win10 icon I do the registry tweak). Peace.

 

Thanks for noticing that!

 

New Low for Microsoft: Removes the ‘X’ Button from Windows 10 Upgrade Dialog
http://wccftech.com/new-low-for-microsoft-windows-10-forced-upgrades-continue/

"Even after constant user complaints about the behavior of Microsoft’s GWX app, the company is still persistent on forcing Windows 7 and 8.1 users to install Windows 10 – no matter what the cost. In a recent such attempt, Redmond has introduced new changes that will make it more difficult to avoid Windows 10 forced updates on your computer.

Nonstop stories of Windows 10 forced upgrades
We recently posted about a scathing user report where Microsoft had changed the behavior of the X (close button) on the Get Windows 10 app. Instead of closing the process, the app started taking the NO as a YES and started downloading and installing Windows 10 without any further interaction. After a flood of criticism, Microsoft reviewed the newly changed behavior and introduced a second popup that would allow the user to confirm or delay the installation process.

Turns out, that was only a temporary happiness that Windows 7 and 8 users shared, because the company is again in the news, annoying users. Microsoft is making it extremely difficult to avoid automatic Windows 10 updates now, and is removing the option to cancel the update altogether. A report claims that there is no cancel option in the update dialog box anymore, as the user is presented with choices to either upgrade instantly or choose a upgrade time. As you can see in the screenshot below, there is no X button, and only two options. Reports claim that users also aren’t able to re-schedule the chosen upgrade time once they have selected a date and time to upgrade on this dialog box.



No cancel, no rescheduling – Microsoft has taken it a step further to force Windows 7/8 users into upgrading to the latest operating system. Many of our readers have commented that users should just simply make the upgrade. But, if the company really hates Windows 7 and 8.1 so much, it should just stop supporting it. Microsoft has promised to support Windows 7 until 2020, and users should be let alone to use their favorite operating system until then. As a report from PCWorld recently shared that to avoid Windows 10 upgrades, users are disabling critical security updates on their Windows 7 machines, which is not only counterproductive but also puts Microsoft’s users at risk.

Windows 10 experienced its largest growth spurt in the month of May after August 2015, a recent analysis had revealed. To achieve its goal of reaching a billion Windows 10 installations, it seems likely that we will keep seeing threatening strategies, making users to upgrade to Windows 10, whether they want it or not."

 

I think Convenience Rollup article mentioned this KB3145739 as the update but now it's this one KB3125574. Is KB3145739 safe?

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This Convenience rollup KB3125574 should be added to the list because this article says it inlucde these three KB3068708, KB3075249 & KB3080149 updates that already in first post.

 

I'll add it tomorrow I am in bed now posting from my HTC 10 phone

 

Is there any chance we could get an updated version of your screencaps regarding the new updates lists?

 

KB3125574 added to the list and batch file updated to v2.2

no chance since I cannot install Windows 7 on my laptop and it takes hours of work to get those screenshots. You will have to just follow the list and carefully deselecting the bad updates or use the Simplix Pack regularly to perform all the updates in one shot without any of the bad ones. Google Simplix Pack if you don't know where to find it.

 

I found about the "Convenience Rollup", because I didn't want to waste half a day for the updates alone, but as I thought, there's GWX in there. Makes me wonder, why one would install fresh copy of W7 and then run the updates, just to end-up with W10. Maybe it's part of the plan - look at the new update I've installed, it changed my OS entirely. Which also begs another question, why update and not direct W10 installation So, all in all just reinstalled this weekend and went through this topic to see how are things, since the "Convenience Rollup" obviously wouldn't have been of a help. Thanks for the mention of the Simplix pack, it helped A LOT.

 

that's why we have the Simlix Pack which is all the latest updates minus the bad ones

 

Most of you all probably know this. I did not. I always keep my Update Settings as "Never check...". Typically (I think) I'd leave the setting the same, "never...", and then click "check for updates" from time to time. I could have sworn with "never" checked, one could still pick and choose?

I know the wise option is to choose "check but let me choose b4 downloading". But again, I don't think I ever had DLs start automatically w/ "never check" as my setting. However this past Wed. I did a check for updates and walked away from my computer as it was unbearably slow. So I come back to my machine and see Win7 was auto-downloading AND installing.

Has this always been the case and I'm drawing a blank? Maybe I would change my setting to "check but let me choose before DL", but I'm pretty sure I never had to. Anyway, just a heads-up that if you don't change your setting to "let me choose b4 downloading & install", MicroSmells makes that decision for you. Maybe that's always been the case... but again, I could have sworn w/ "never" checked, you could still pick & choose from a newly populated update list?

Was my old setting ▽▽



I'm always changing the setting to the one below (as noted page #1 Screenshots by Phoenix). I know this is pretty Noob crap, but I think MicroS*cks tried to get me. Fortunately I caught the DL early-on & quit the process -before any damage to all the hard work that goes into running a clean win7

 

you did it right, Micr0$h4ft infected you with their updates virus to change it, nothing unusual here

 

Win 7?


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The first way you have it is the correct way, "Never check...", for Windows Updates.

MS has been installing KB's with Windows Update that have changes that allow it to do the GWX updates regardless of the Windows Update settings you have.

You can install GWX Control Panel, and keep it running to block such future attempts.

You can use the script in Post #1 (OP=Original Post) and run it as Administrator to remove the KB's causing it.

After running the script, reboot, run Windows Update one more time, and Hide all the KB's that show up for install - you can check against the list of KB's in the scripte (Edit), or look at the list in the OP - or just Hide them all.

MS is also putting GWX and Windows Update changes for telemetry and Windows 10 upgrades into Security KB's... so if it isn't on the list, and it's new, it's safer to hide it for now and watch for info about the new KB's before deciding it's ok to installing.

The MS GWX crusade may not stop at the end of July, so keep that in mind.

The Post #1 script removes KB's, but doesn't take into account a number of other things to disable - Aegis scripts also disable background processes and scheduled uploads that MS is doing through the normal services for telemetry, so you want to apply those changes too.

It's good to have more than 1 source for such info, we can't all find everything all the time before everyone else

Aegis for Windows 7/8.x - Block all known Microsoft spying and Windows 10 upgrade elements
https://voat.co/v/technology/comments/853510

Follow the instructions and run the Stable version, or the Unstable/work in progress version - it will have the latest KB's.

There are other tools, like the GWX Control Panel (Win 7/8/8.1) mentioned:
http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

Spybot Anti-Beacon Win7/8/8.1/10
https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/

DWS - Destroy Windows Spying - stopped development 12/2015, but has picked up development again, see GIT site for reference to new site.

 

FYI, the June rollup is out. The Windows 7/Server 2008 rollup includes:\
KB3161647 Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: June 2016
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3161647
This does not appear to include any new telemetry or Windows 10 installation so-called improvements, at least according to the release notes.

 

What a bunch of crap. MS is turning on everything obsolete in Win7 Pro just to harass users in updates.

Hell yea I'm turning them off. MS ALSO is removing sys restore points to waste more of our time. Hopefully, his spine will snap soon and a more logical CEO will take his place. He must have dementia and no one's brave enough to tell him. Too bad, after all he has done good.

Is everyone enjoying Win10 yet?

 

just a little more than a month, then the real fun begins. What telemetry and other hassles will be left over and new ones to crop up too. just because the free offer is over do not expect them to not want everyone to upgrade anyway!

 

Hello.


I have some question about "this" in windows 7. Readed first post and...

First - Did install IE 11 on win7 and KB2670838 still makes some destabilizate/mess in the system?
Second - is there atm some scripts or sth to auto select "safety" updates to install (or hide the unwanted ones) ? Have 3 laptops that i didnt make updates for few months.............
Third - ATM in win7 SECURITY updates are "safe" to install all of them? Or someone have "hidden suprises"? And what about NET Frameworks (3.5 and new 4.5.2 / 4.6.3) ?

 

Interesting! So guys what do you recommend now for fresh Windows 7 install, should I follow the guide of Phoenix at the first page or just install this KB3161647 and after disabling updates?

 

I just came across this the other day, might be worth a look.
http://wu.krelay.de/en/

 

"Nobody ever Asked me if I wanted to update." What about the rest of us with the same **** from the Redmond Morons?

"But That rapid adoption has come at the expense of Microsoft's reputation given how aggressive the company has been in pushing Reviews those upgrades" Talk about shooting himself in the head!! Another company wild obliterated themselves completely for less than this mess...
http://hothardware.com/news/microsoft-loses-unauthorized-windows-10-upgrade-court-case

 

Finally

Microsoft Loses Unauthorized Windows 10 Upgrade Court Case, And So It Begins
by Brandon Hill — Monday, June 27, 2016

"If you’re among the likely millions of Windows customers running Windows 7 or Windows 8 that are sick of the Windows 10 nag screens along with unprompted and forced upgrades, you’ll be happy to hear that at least one “little guy” has won a battle against Microsoft in court.

Teri Goldstein claims that her computer was forced into upgrading to Windows 10 shortly after it became available during the summer of 2015 — all without her authorization.

“I had never heard of Windows 10,” Goldstein told The Seattle Times. “Nobody ever asked me if I wanted to update.”

To make matters worse, once Windows 10 was installed, it left her computer unstable and was prone to frequent crashes. According to Goldstein, her computer became unusable, which is problematic news considering that she uses the machine to run a travel agency.

So Goldstein decided to do what the majority of other hapless Windows 10 victims were unwilling to do: sue Microsoft. She decided to battle the deep-pocketed software giant in court, citing lost wages and the need to purchase a replacement computer.

Much to our surprise, and likely to the surprise of Microsoft, Goldstein actually won her case.

When Microsoft decided not to bother with an appeal (in order to avoid dumping more money into the litigation), Goldstein was awarded damages in the amount of $10,000."

http://hothardware.com/news/microsoft-loses-unauthorized-windows-10-upgrade-court-case

 

Simplix Pack updated to v16.6.20

To download UpdatePack7R2 version 16.6.20(size 687 MB) please refer to the above mentioned original site.
Just in case, here are the original download mirrors for the Pack: (edit: updated June 19, 2016)

File: UpdatePack7R2-16.6.20.exe
MD5 : 7a733640e05cd4540ee80996fd8e030b

Download:
direct

Changes in version 16.6.20

Added KB3159398-x86-x64, KB3160352-x64 (only Server 2008 R2), KB3161949-x86-x64, KB3161958-x86-x64
Added KB3158363-x64 (replaces the KB3155413-x64, Server 2008, only R2)
Added KB3160005-IE11-x86-x64 (replaces the KB3154070-IE11-x86-x64)
Added KB3161561-x86-x64 (replaces the KB2536275-x86-x64)
Added KB3161664-x86-x64 (replaces the KB3153199-x86-x64)
Added KB3162835-x86-x64 (replaces the KB3153731-x86-x64)
Added KB3164033-x86-x64 (replaces the KB3140735-x86-x64)
Added KB3164035-x86-x64 (replaces the KB3156013-x86-x64)
The following updates are not relevant and removed: KB2888049-x86-x64, KB3018238-x64 (only Server 2008 R2), KB3126587-x64 (only Server 2008 R2)
The following updates have been added problem: KB3139923-v2-x86-x64 (Update adds a point telemetry consent.exe file)
Next update will not be installed if IE11: KB3158363-x64 (only Server 2008 R2)

The following updates are excluded:
KB971033 -x86-the x64 (Update for Windows Activation Technologies checking)
KB2952664 -x86-the x64 (System Update compatibility for migration to Windows 10)
KB2977759 -x86-the x64 (Diagnostics compatibility issues for upgrading to Windows 10)
KB3021917 -x86-the x64 (diagnostics and telemetry systems to upgrade to Windows 10)
KB3035583 -x86-the x64 (Update sets "Get Windows 10" application)
KB3068708 -x86-the x64 (Update to improve the quality of diagnostics and telemetry)
KB3075249 -x86-the x64 (Update adds a point telemetry consent.exe file)
KB3080149 -x86-the x64 (Update for CEIP program and diagnostic telemetry)
KB3081954 -x86-the x64 (Update to improve the working folders and telemetry)
KB3123862 -x86-the x64 (Updated opportunity to upgrade to Windows 10)
V2-KB3139923 -x86-the x64 (Update adds a point telemetry consent.exe file)
KB3150513 -x86-the x64 (Updated configuration for compatibility diagnostics)



List of updates and changes history:
Original

Source: MDL Forums

 

Please consider adding KB 3173040 to the list . It's not telemetry but it's yet another nagware screen implemented by Microsoft. Yep, you would think that 2-3 days after they lost the lawsuit and added the "Do not notify me again" option on their GWX application they wouldn't go out of their way to release a new "hotfix" that adds yet another obscene upgrade screen:



But that's exactly what they did. They never learn.