Windows7/8 - Updates to hide to prevent Windows 10 Upgrade / Disable Telemetry

KB3173040 added to the list and batch file updated to v2.3 in the OP

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NB: This package is not installed if you follow the many-times posted instructions for disabling Windows 10 installation (registry setting, never10, GWX-CP, etc.).

 

doesn't hurt to add it

 

So, I have completed the long fresh installation guide from Phoenix, thanks for him, seems everything very fine. However the list of avoid updates is long, it is possible i missed something and accidentally I installed one or two. Will hurt anything if I run that batchfile but won't be there anything to uninstall?

 

no

 

Hey Phoenix, I just wanted to say THANK YOU!!!! I have been though hell and back trying to fix install errors and countless problems with windows 7 Ult. You along with anyone you worked with to put together this guide needs a BIG round of applause.

I have to tell you all a story real fast you will get a kick out of.....I been hounding MS about a MSDTC.log error that was preventing SFC /scannow to run with no errors. Also backup issues and some other things that seem to never get fixed. As we all know....you can only get someone in India when calling MS these days, it all starts talking with some Tier one tech that basically only knows how to turn the computer on and off and cant even remote into your machine to help....AND their only solution to your problem is to reinstall windows.

Then, to talk to a tier 2 tech they try to make you pay $150 for support... If you demand to speak to a tier 2 and refuse to pay.......or if you pay the $150 ( ive tried both ) then you get to speak to there tier 2 tech....... he can only remote into your machine and his /her only solution is to reinstall windows. THEN if you press hard enough they say a tier 3 tech will call you back. So this is where it gets funny......( to me anyway) . So this guy calls me named Fazid, claiming he was with tier 3 MS support, He was very arrogant. He asks me what my issues are and wants to remote into my machine. After reviewing my issues, guess what he says to me? " Well sir this can only be fixed by reinstalling windows. " I said to him well SIR, Ive already reinstalled windows 3 times in the last 2 days and THAT is not going to happen. After reviewing my CBS log, which I offered to show him, after 30 min of him just poking around my system in basic windows areas.......he says to me......"Sir I see your problem , you must reinstall windows and call INTEL because this is not our problem, if you look at the log you showed me in your CBS , it refers to a AMD processor and you have a Intel chip. SO there is a major problem with your system hardwear."

At that time, i almost fell out of my chair laughing at this so CALLED tier 3 tech. I finally was able to stop laughing at this guy, who was still talking and trying to convince me of this. i told him ....."Listen, obviously you have no understanding of windows or intel or AMD, so let me explain a few things", I showed him a few links and explained why almost ALL computers refer to AMD , I showed him the Wiki page and he still wanted to argue with me and say that he knew what he was talking about and THIS was the main reason my system was having these issues, and MS was not to blame. I then calmly told him to put me on hold and go ask his manger of peer about what i was saying.........he came back after 10 min and TOTALLY ignored the reason he had just put me on hold and went on to say he would have to call me back and they would be talking to their engineers and get back to me.........I said........".DONT bother, if it was not for how big MS is, YOU would not have a job right now,,,,,,and if you all don't start changing the way you do business and MS better start training their techs...YOU will go out of business. " He still would not admit he was wrong about the AMD / Intel log.

Its just pathetic how MS trains and employees staff.......its almost like they are hiring people off the streets to fulfill there tech support? DON'T they realize that their tech support is the FIRST line of contact with the public? Its so bad that I just don't understand how they can go on like they do. They are almost as bad as ASUS. Why and how the HELL do these companies get away with this. The only company that Ive ever dealt with ( tech wise) that has ever been able to help me or fix my issues is APPLE.

Anyways,...........THANKS again.....!!

PS I have a business idea that you might be interested in......if so let me know.

Scott

 

Please @hmscott @Phoenix @Mr. Fox @tilleroftheearth +++ use Google translate and enjoy http://m.dinside.no/936930/gaar-pc-en-din-i-stykker-kan-butikken-skylde-paa-windows-10

 

That's likely the case, something in Windows 10 is causing the problem, and the PC maker is at a loss as to how to fix it. If the PC was shipped with Windows 8.1, then the user should continue to use Windows 8.1.

It's unusual in that many PC makers ship new PC's now with Windows 10. If this PC maker is not shipping that PC model with Windows 10, it makes sense that they wouldn't support it.

We assume that all PC makers will support Windows 10 on their PC's, but many can't or don't.

Users will still try Windows 10, and although many things don't work, drivers not available, they will still persist in trying to make it work. Windows 10 is a waste of time on those PC's. Users are best served by going back to the supported release OS version.

 

Yeah I understand the pc sellers. All problems came from the Redmond Morons. They should pay big money for the mess. A lot of people don't understand what they deal with. Eg... Older people. M$ started this mess... Not the owners of the computers!!
Edit.
M$ should rather do as usual. Sell the damn OS and not force all problems with this so called free new junk on other.

 

I used this work-around to take a factory installed Windows 10 machine & install Win7. I tried Win10, loathed it, but was told I could not take a Win10 Factory installed machine and install a clean Windows 7. If there's a will, there's a way. Provided your machine's components are compatible, or modifiable, a work-around like this, for e.g., may/can help one get back to Windows 7.

http://codeabitwiser.com/2014/03/how-to-install-windows-7-with-only-usb-3-0-ports/

 

Going in the reverse direction, going from Windows 10 to Windows 7/8.1 on a new device is much more likely to work.

Windows 7/8 will be more stable and easier to maintain on new hardware - not so many constantly changing major "updates" like on Windows 10.

Good work

 

Maybe. Depends on the brand.

My Yoga 13 has all sorts of fits going from Windows 8 to 7. The SLIC table blocks Enterprise activcation. The WiFi adapter needs a specific download from Realtek (it's not available in Windows Update anywhere nor from Lenovo). It is USB 3.0 so even getting Windows 7 installed can be a trick (I use the NUC USB 3.0 tool). And there are some minor issues with the power management.

I would expect newer Lenovo consumer kit (not the business and enterprise stuff) to have similar problems trying to go backwards from Windows 10 to 8/7.

 

The problems I was referring to had to do with no vendor drivers for Windows 10 for hardware that was released pre-Windows 10.

If the vendor doesn't release a driver for Windows 10 for a device in your laptop, and the only replacement is a MS generic driver, you will likely be missing both features and performance if you try to run Windows 10.

Re-install the OS that came with your laptop and enjoy many years of use, ignore Windows 10, there is nothing there better than you already have on Windows 7/8.1, where you have stable OS support for your hardware.

Installing Windows 7/8.1 on hardware that came out on Windows 10 is more likely to work as the hardware doesn't change much - it has been made and support through Windows 7/8.1 already, and vendor drivers exist - you do need to find them, but that's not a problem - just a little extra effort.

For newer, ongoing hardware releases, many vendors will be also building those devices into motherboards and other hardware that they will support on Windows 7/8.1 ongoing, so you can find those and use them moving forward.

At some point you may find hardware that doesn't work on Windows 7/8.1, no vendor drivers, a generic Windows 7/8.1 driver doesn't exist, and a work around isn't available.

Take back that laptop and get another one

You have 7-15-30 days return window to evaluate a laptop purchase - make sure you do your Windows 7/8.1 install during that time to make sure you are functional moving forward.

The problems you mention aren't so much problems as solutions, thanks for posting them

 

This free PC offer is the latest in a series of highly aggressive moves Microsoft has made to get its users onto Windows 10. What a offer, LOL
Anyone want to try?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3096...ws-10-on-your-pc-itll-give-you-a-new-one.html

 

Wow, if that is not an act of a desperation I don't know what is. The bigger question is, will they help downgrade the new $150 "free" turdbook to Windows 7 if you decide (as many others have) that you hate Windows 10? LOL! Probably not.

 

This is real desperation. We have to see what happens after the free period is over. What next?

 

I'm going to guess that they'll extend the offer for the free upgrade at least once more. They clearly have an agenda. The harder they push it the more I question the basis for their being so pushy. Regardless of whether a person likes or hates Windows 10, I think we are all smart enough to know it is absolutely not out of the goodness of their precious ever-loving money grubbing hearts. I'm more suspicious of their motives than ever before now. Something is too fishy about this much effort to force people into using Windows 10. I smell a rat. Most people expect Micro$loth to be good at what they do... reasonable expectation to have... but, unfortunately, they are not good at what they do. If they were, there wouldn't be nearly so much hate for Windows 10.

 

I am going to give W10 one last chance. We shall see.

Edit; the primary reason I purchased a NextBook 10 with With W10 on it. It does not seem too bad.

 

I'm OK with my hacked version on both of the machines in m sig. I'm done trying to use it in the natural form. as provided by Micro$loth.

Just don't forget about Einstein's definition of insanity if you still hate it.

 

More so I've hated what the company is doing to other consumers. We all here easily can deal with privacy and other issues, the mom and pops can't. also there is the issue of production and file monitoring. Even wanting too try it again I still can not give W10 a thumbs up for a general or business consumer. So this thread to me it still gets a two thumbs up!

 

The answer to that question is no secret: Microsoft claimed they would have Windows 10 on 1 billion devices within 3 years of launch. They're far behind schedule due to the abject failure that is Windows 10 Mobile. The aggressive push to get Windows 10 on Windows 7 and 8 PCs is to offset that failure.

 

Could be. I hope they continue to fail to meet their objectives. That would be SWEET!

 

Failure to meet their objective would be nice if it then forced positive change. To date we have yet to see this happen. So far I can only see this, for them at least, being a bad thing.

 

Well, the way I look at it if they refuse to fall in line with customer wishes and produce the kind of positive change many want then they deserve to have very bad things happen. Sometimes it takes adversity and financial hardship to get stubborn corporations to pull their head out and pay attention.

 

I do not disagree with that they deserve bad things to happen just that they to the point of forcing change. Other end to that is can things get bad enough to force change? M$ makes enough otherwise to give away the OS forever. Where would this leave the consumer?

Edit; Remember too that not all subscriptions cost money. The OS could be offered for free but we pay for all the extra's like office etc..

 

Thought this was a nice fit for this thread...

 

Need to make a f**** Franken-driver for this Franken**** Colored pastel tile OS? The idiots should Ship @Prema a free DELLBOOK as advertised. Because the Morons push ****!!

 

New kb3035583 kidnap attempt today, the Mad GWX Doctor tries again :O)

 

Microsoft admits it will miss Windows 10 goal of 1 billion devices by mid-2018 | CNN Money

The kind of failure Micro$loth is seeing with Windows 10 really emphasizes the importance of paying attention and giving customers what they want. That's their obligation... it's about us and what we want, not about what they want for us. Windows is not a niche market. Everything most relevant still runs on Windows. Even Windows XP still dwarfs OS X with nearly double the market share. Micro$loth are getting too big for their britches and Windows 10's lower than projected adoption rate reflects that. Having a monopoly has not proven to secure their success with a new OS that many--the majority, in fact--either hate or find no compelling reason to adopt. Had they left well enough alone, ditched Windows 8.X support, (an OS hated by most of the same folks that don't like or see a need for 10,) focused on keeping Windows 7 strong and diverted resources to competing with something where more competition needs to exist, like beating NVIDIA and Intel at their own game, we might have found ourselves in a better place now. They could buy AMD and use their financial resources to finally make the company successful, with products that more enthusiasts might actually want to own.

Happy customers translate into successful business ventures. The more they spin the marketing crap to hype Windows 10, the more distrust they create, and the harder they push Windows 10 the longer it will take them to displace Windows 7. The world has always hated Nazis, and the more they act like Nazis the more hate they are going to receive.

 

It was only a matter of time...

France: Windows 10 collects 'excessive personal data', issues Microsoft with formal warning
By Mark Wilson
Published 16 hours ago
http://betanews.com/2016/07/20/windows-10-excessive-data-collection-france/

Discussion:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-10.762434/page-286#post-10299480

 

" The notice comes after numerous complaints about Windows 10" What a Bomb, LOL
Rep added

 

Waiting for more to pour into the bandwagon! Hopefully enough countries and other entities pile in so that M$ is just overwhelmed.

 

Sweet, that's great news! Let the firestorm begin!

Better late than never. I'm surprised it took this long, but the wheels of litigation often turn slowly.

 

This is great news. This would be a good time for other countries to follow suit.

 

Interesting response to the formal warning by Micro$loth.

http://betanews.com/2016/07/21/microsoft-response-cnil/

 

And what will be an acceptable solution on this mess? Delete the crap or do it in another form? A lot of Telemetry will still follow this Os!! I hope tech savvy people will find a dirty bomb in this OS soon or later...

 

TBH this sounds a lot like they want to talk about it and then negotiate a solution. My guess is that maybe they feel it can just be explained to the point it is all accepted.

 

Or a very very tiny change. But everything will be almost same as before!!

 

Yep, negotiate the least if any change.

 

I hope not. That would be very bad. I hope France's CNIL doesn't give them any wiggle room at all. I am hoping the formal warning is just a preliminary step before the shoe drops and Mico$lop get slapped with massive fines and litigation.

 

Finally, someone stood up to the big bully. Microsoft better start listening to the consumer, or they are going to find themselves on the short end of the OS stick.

 

Yup, sometimes a little "monkey see, monkey do" action can serve a useful purpose. This is a good example of where it would be useful.

 

That depends on what the mess actually is.

CNIL is a political organization staffed by politicians. As is typical for such organizations, their assertions are based on hyperbole, FUD, and demands from the citizenry to Do Something About the Problem. So, they're Doing Something About the Problem.

 

Unless I am reading this wrong but if you install W10 and agree to M$ license agreement then are you not giving them consent to track you?? plus a lot more other crap.

 

Yes, but contracts often ask for things that aren't legal for them to ask. Agreeing to it doesn't obligate people to abdicate rights they aren't empowered to release.

MS has no right to ask to invade our privacy just to get a free OS. Our privacy is not a tradeable commodity for exchange.

And, now France is the first to step up and defend their people against this.

 

I totally agree. I was just reading that link again you posted and it go me thinking. I hope the French nail there.......

 

This assertion is patently false. TechTarget does have the right to ask -- or require -- you to forfeit your privacy as part of their terms of service for your use of NBR. By agreeing with their terms, registering, and using these forums you have traded your privacy in precisely this capacity.

Microsoft are no different from TechTarget in this regard.

That said, while Microsoft have the right to ask or require you to forfeit your privacy as part of the Windows 10 usage terms, the forced upgrade policy fails to grant victims (and I use the term specifically) the opportunity to decline.

 

So what is the course of action for business's or even the military? I know..........Stay away from Windows 10 until they fix their EULA, or drastically change the way it sends data. Like not at all when it comes to the military.

 

Not really. Enterprise and military customers aren't concerned about the "spying" because they -- at least the admins -- understand what data is really being collected because it's not nearly as invasive as the FUD and hyperbole makes it out to be.

No, their concerns about rapid OS life cycles -- any operating systems, not just Windows -- is cost. It costs more for an IT department to support three different major operating system versions than it does for them to support one or two. And right now they're looking at four major, publicly supported Windows versions in the wild: 7, 8, 8.1 and 10. Trying to support all of them is an expensive nightmare, and this isn't counting Macintosh, iOS and Android.