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    Windows7/8 - Updates to hide to prevent Windows 10 Upgrade / Disable Telemetry

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 23, 2015.

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    me too, but when Micro$h4ft gives vague statements claiming to fix problems with no mention of what problems it will fix, and not finding anything that proves it doesn't contain telemetry, I am personally not installing it for now.

    I will keep researching more.
     
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    Same here, don't have the KB it supposedly fixes either. My concern again is at some point they will sneak in that addendum to the EULA.
     
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    According to this page, it says that this KB3092627 which we are not 100% sure if it's clean from Telemetry is supposed to fix their previous mess created by KB3076895. Since I cannot find any proof that it contains telemetry, do you think I should remove it from the list of updates to avoid? Can you help me here with some research about this before I remove it from the list to be 100% sure.

    I do have KB3076895 installed BTW so maybe I should install it. I am lost man. I need your help.
     
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    I would say it should be patched till proven otherwise. It seems this is a fix for IE and some AV products on some machines, Vista especially.
     
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    @hmscott @Mr. Fox @toughasnails @TANWare @octiceps @Papusan

    Guys, I just added 3 new updates to the list after doing a long research.

    Additionally, I added a new telemetry which is Disk Data Diagnostics task that is in Task Scheduler with illustrations on how to disable it.

    Finally, I added instructions on how to create a VB Script to hide these updates forever. Let's say you just did a clean install of Windows 7, going through this list and checking to ensure these updates are not selected can get very tedious considering the amount of updates we have to hide, thus, this script will hide them bad updates from the start so you never see them.

    It is vital that you check the OP to ensure none of the updated updates are running on your system or simply copy/paste the removal commands I have in the OP instead of wasting your time going through that huge list of updates, it should uninstall them all.
     
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    The "bullet" before the wasu command can get removed, so it can run.

    After doing all the uninstalls, I did a Check for updates, and this new one came up:

    KB3083325

    Google has nothing for it, zero...

    Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: September 2015
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083325

    It doesn't say what it is doing, but touches Windows Update files...

    I am not installing it for now.
     
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    Just got this new update KB3083324 on my system and I can't find any info about it.


    [​IMG]

    Gosh avoiding these Windows updates viruses is getting really tedious! why is Micro$h4ft so desperate to make us install their Windows 10 virus?!?!
     
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    Dude that's an update to the Windows update client, AKA another Windows 10 preparation update. Thank Im adding it to the list
     
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    Cool :)

    The hidden list grows...

    hidden updates 9-3-15.JPG
     
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    The Redmond Nazis are going to stop at nothing to get their cancer on as many systems as possible.
     
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    I never thought that I'd view staying away from WU as such a necessary but boring chore...
     
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    I am working on a one click script to end all our worries and hide these updates, currently troubleshooting a small error in the script but once I'm done, clean install windows 7, run the script, then feel free to install all updates that you see as none of the bad ones will be offered to j00 :D

    1337 FTW
     
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    I am not too sure about the new KB3083324 or its 8.1 equivalent. Windows update itself is not a telemetry or W10 issue. It could easily just be adding/modding server address. Since the scope of the documentation does not go beyond the Windows update itself it is probably safe.

    Looking further at this though I would be careful of a big push come the normal update Tuesday.
     
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    From my experience so far, every single update to the Windows update itself as they call it has been a hidden Windows 10 upgrade preparation..... just my 2 cents worth.
     
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    Tool kits to disable delivery of IE 10/11 through Windows updates added to the OP.
     
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    KB3050265 added to the OP (Claims to fix an issue with a long scan time and high CPU usage during Windows Updates scans but also includes Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
     
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    Actually per the link;
    Edit; You have to remember that they are not about to come out and apologize or even make a statement. What we will see is, that is if, an update(s) making policy changes. TBH this is a good thing that they are backing slightly off the heavy handed forced upgrades.
     
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    Ohh I don't know how I missed that!

    thank you so much, will remove it from the list as it contains an easy way to stop the upgrades :)

    Thank you to everyone who is collaborating in making this thread the perfect guide against the new MS virus :D
     
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    Actually I would love to say the new OS rather than the Virus but until we can root them from the local stuff I can't.
     
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    For all those who have read my posts and who probably think I am an Ant-Windows 10 person. I am exactly the opposite. When I first heard about Windows 10, I was so excited, having support for newer hardware but with a Start Menu, UEFI boot for super fast startup without the traditional BIOS POST when having Windows 7 installed, built in SSD Trim through the Windows 10 disk defragmenter. Automatic updates, yes I like automatic updates actually, one less headache to worry about but NOT these freakin' driver updates.....

    Unfortunately, this dream came to an end way too sooner that I expected with the forced driver updates and no.1 I do not feel safe using windows 10 at all, I feel like I am running with a virus installed. Maybe the OS is not a virus in technical terms but to me something transmitting my usage habits, what programs I have installed and sending it somewhere is just like what a virus does. I hope that one day this would all be fixed so I can use Windows 10 and feel safe but with the way things are going, my hopes are very low.
     
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    Hey matrix leader could you please re-upload the last picture you put in op about disabling tasks. Maybe use same program you used to upload the first two. Can't read the writing in picture.
    Sorry to be a bother but I am following this thread like a hawk and want to make sure I get the right information.
    It's the very last picture in the original post.
    Thanks.
     
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    I uploaded it on imgur man that's the only other alternative I used last time it should load fine, can you try clearing your cache again and try? Also if you are using a VPN can you try without the VPN connection?

    Please advice as it is vital for you to do this trick to disable HDD/SSD Drives data logging to Micro$h4ft
     
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    I was using my phone and all other images were perfect except last one. But I used my laptop and looked up the thread and they display perfectly. Sorry for inconvinence . I will just use my laptop to follow the thread instead of my phone. Thanks again for all the good info .
     
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    That weird when I went to disable Microsoft Windows disk diagnostic data collector it said it was ready so I disabled it like you suggested but before I did I looked at last time it was run and it said never. Oh well it's disabled now.
     
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    @Matrix Leader - great job on the first post, bro. I made this one a sticky also.
     
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    Definitely looking forward to that script of yours whenever you get to finishing it.

    At this point in the game I'm about half a step from re-imagining all of my W7 systems, installing SP1 and locking them down completely at that point...
     
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    Well that means it didn't have a chance to run its garbage yet, no reason to allow it to though so good job on disabling that.
     
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    Matrix Leader custom hosts file added to the OP to block MSN Ads, Telemetry, OpenCandy, SourceForge, and a few other dangerous domains
     
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    Right on! Definitely the best way IMHO. That's basically how I deal with it.

    Nice! :vbthumbsup:
     
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    I was never before of the ilk to hide updates. I always just took them in stride. The primary reason is for all my friends etc. I help out they have to take theirs in stride as well. It is just easier to fix their systems if mine is in a similar state.

    My first blocked update was the one for W7 that broke Aero Glass. Things is that is now fixed, for me, and I can run it again on my P79. It never affected the Samsung system. On that note I run it not blocked on those systems so that I can run IE11, again keeping in line with family and friends.

    I will block all the telemetry updates on my primary system but leave the P79 at full to be the guinea pig system. I rarely use it so it will be a good place to keep an eye out. That and there is not even a hint of UEFI making literal killer hardware updates less likely.
     
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    Will this affect the performance or operation ? Also I'm concerned of security breaches, not to say that this will cause any of that intentionally but sometimes when a file is modified it can affect system performance. There really is no way to keep big brother from watching with tech these days they see and know mostly everything we think is a secret and while they let a lot of little things and some other things go, they know all thats being done in machines and wait to nab someone doing wrong things or things that will affect world trade.
     
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    A general rule is if the data traffic goes outside of the home then the secret is out. Someone somewhere knows what's up. We can try and hide some things through secure connections but this has its limitations. The only way to secure data is never let it out of the home.

    Now comes W10 and its inherent policies. Essentially anything you do is no longer just local but now is on the data highway. Even things you do not think were being made into data before now could be by camera or microphone. Even the files you had before all of this can be seen and spied on.

    Performance wise, while i was running these tweaks, I saw no degradation.
     
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    nope, has 0 effects on performance.

    You would get decreased performance if any of those tasks is actually running so disabling it is better from a security and performance point of view.
     
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    Nice with those new tasks in Windows crappie if you run benchmark tests. Crippling the scores. If you run benchmark tests and don't touch the mice; windows maintenance and spyware start running. Nice.
     
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    Okay thanks for that, when it comes to updates do you think the system would detect any of those steaks and try to correct them. Also I'm glad there are people such as yourself helping to keep certain info private as it should be. I have not tried these tweaks ofixes yet since I'm still running w7 but sooner or later I'll be upgrading again. Tbh with all the spying reported in w10 I may avoid it until further research and testing is done.
     
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    Now we just need one for Windows 7. :vbsmile:
     
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    I have been stuck for days and noone is able to help

    anyone here knows about scripting?

    Only members of MDL can see this but if anyone is a member here is my post and where I got so far:

    http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/64954-What-is-wrong-with-my-script

    The code I made starts to hide the updates then comes back with an error:

    Code:
    Dim hideupdates(21)
    hideupdates(0) = "KB2505438"
    hideupdates(1) = "KB2670838"
    hideupdates(2) = "KB2952664"
    hideupdates(3) = "KB2976978"
    hideupdates(4) = "KB2977759"
    hideupdates(5) = "KB2990214"
    hideupdates(6) = "KB3021917"
    hideupdates(7) = "KB3022345"
    hideupdates(8) = "KB3035583"
    hideupdates(9) = "KB3044374"
    hideupdates(10) = "KB3064683"
    hideupdates(11) = "KB3065987"
    hideupdates(12) = "KB3065988"
    hideupdates(13) = "KB3068708"
    hideupdates(14) = "KB3072318"
    hideupdates(15) = "KB3075249"
    hideupdates(16) = "KB3075851"
    hideupdates(17) = "KB3075853"
    hideupdates(18) = "KB3080149"
    hideupdates(19) = "KB3083324"
    hideupdates(20) = "KB3083325"
    
    set updateSession = createObject("Microsoft.Update.Session")
    set updateSearcher = updateSession.CreateupdateSearcher()
    
    Set searchResult = updateSearcher.Search("IsInstalled=0 and Type='Software'")
    
    For i = 0 To searchResult.Updates.Count-1
    set update = searchResult.Updates.Item(i)
    For j = LBound(hideupdates) To UBound(hideupdates)
    'MsgBox hideupdates(j)
    if instr(1, update.Title, hideupdates(j), vbTextCompare) = 0 then
    'Wscript.echo "No match found for " & hideupdates(j)
    else
    Wscript.echo "Hiding " & hideupdates(j)
    update.IsHidden = True
    end if
    Next
    Next
    
    [​IMG]
     
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    I'm not familiar with vbs.
    Not to be mean? That is barely readable to me.

    Is that supposed to be a nested for loop? Oh well.

    But in Line 37 is your culprit?
    Looks like isHidden doesn't exist??
     
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    I have no idea about scripting, I used some script that I found online and edited it to add the updates which I found since his updates were missing a lot.

    The thing is when I contacted him he doesn't reply so I don't know who else to turn to
     
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    Please help me
     
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    While I go set a debug environment ....

    Uncomment line 35 and tell me what happens. I think removing ' is uncommenting
     
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    Don't have a Win 7 system at the moment so I cannot test this. I hope you can
     
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    Ah crap. I thought it was a Win 10 ... I was setting up for Win 10.

    Um it going to take me an hour to set up a new Win 7 Dev Box. Can you wait?
     
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    oh no rush at all, I've been waiting for more than 5 days....take your sweet time.

    I hope you can create the script and run it then run Windows updates to see if it actually hide them

    Thanks a lot
     
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    Is there a way to export the list of installed updates to plain text or some other searchable format? Visually searching for some possible 15 updates out of 165 total installed is turning out to be a huge challenge :(
     
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    found this, works great. just enter it into a command prompt window.
    The html format is nice, even tells you the date installed and if its a security fix.
    credit.
     
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    I am not running the script but it looks as if the problem is in the line setting "update.IsHidden = True" either the value does not exist or more likely the value is either non writable or permission is not there.

    Edit; I too hate debugging script.
     
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