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    Windows7/8 - Updates to hide to prevent Windows 10 Upgrade / Disable Telemetry

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 23, 2015.

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    Installing Win updates on Win 7 or 8.1 computers with Kaby Lake or Ryzen CPUs
    @Phoenix
     
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    F*** windows update filth. The only thing they are updating is the amount of malware they can inject into Win 7/8.1. "it's purely a business decision, and is not to force people to move to Windows 10"

    *cough....Bullsh1t......cough*
     
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    The only response that came to me regarding their intentions was, " Liar, liar, pants on fire."

    I mean, c'mon... really? I might have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.
     
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    I hear ya! It's a shame that most were born last night, and actually believe the gas that Microsoft blows out their ass. The amount of Microshit generated sunshine crammed up my anal canal is already enough to supply electricity for my house.
     
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    Next step from Micro$haft will be decreasing gaming performance if you run Windoze 7 and 8.1
    This way can their newest baby Windoze X look much better. They will use all the tricks in the book to do this!! In small steps with Windoze update patches can this be manageable without too much noise.
     
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    They're already trying to do that. The only way they can make it happen is through lies and deception. They initially started with just lies and the Kool-Aid drinkers all believed it. No need to test and confirm, since Lord Micro$haft says it, it has to be true.

    People that don't want Windoze OS X cancer malware need to follow my practice that started several years ago. Do not allow Windows Updates. They are unnecessary, and they are cancerware. My systems are proof. M18xR1, M18xR2, Alienware 18, P570WM, P750ZM, Sky X9, P870DM-G, P870DM3 and Tornado F5, and my wife's XPS 15. Windows 7 SP1, Windows Updates disabled and only selectively applied by me. No antivirus software and no problems.

    I do not visit nasty web sites. Those that do should expect STDs on their computer, just as they would if they defile their bodies with exposure to filth.
     
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    @Ashtrix: If you dig a bit deeper on Woody's blog you will find more viable workarounds:

    1. DISM commands on .cab hotfixes still works with no hiccups.
    2. Manually overwriting the Windows Update Client(Wuaueng.dll) with the older version results in a triumph, huge success :)

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    The nagware screen is still shown, but I guess if you go through the hassle of replacing all the files that sum up the Windows Update Client [as detailed here: KB3138612] I guess you can get rid of it. Seems like the user reporting the 2nd workaround hasn't tested this scenario yet.

    Basically, we can still use Windows 7 and 8.1 on new machines and keep them secure, but we don't know how long Microsoft will still allow these workarounds to be functional.
     
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    They will implement their trash deep into every single patch they push out. Safety patch or whatever they throw out. Only a fully locked down Win Update will help.
    I'm 110% sure they are capable to cooperate nicely with Nvidia... As they did with Intel and Amd regarding prevent support for Skylake and Kaby in older OS. They will force Nvidia to Inject code in their graphics drivers who will reduce the performance in steps down for Windows 7 and 8.1
    And Windoze X will look as a much nicer options. Just say gaming performance is optimized with Cartoon OS X.
     
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    Yes, they HAVE TO do this. Cheating, manipulation and deception are the ONLY WAYS they can win at anything. Having been born to lose, they have changed the dynamic and now they are master liars, and the illegitimate spawn of the Father of Lies, Satan. They have deep pockets, so they can afford to bribe their 'Partners' into actively participating in their lies. They have the marks tattooed on their hand and their forehead.
    [​IMG]
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    Temporary fixes to make a piece of garbage a bit less smelly. But, the flies will come back, and the maggots will begin to feed again. The rot and decay are only temporarily stalled. The cancer OS will always be cancer. It cannot be fixed permanently. It is perma-puke on steroids.
     
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    Bypass for Windows Update lock for next-gen processors found - Ghacks.net

    Maybe those with AMD Carrizo DDR4 processors need to use this fix in foreseeable time?:rolleyes: Because the M$ Morons don't bothered with a fix in latest Patch Day

    "The issue that AMD Carrizo DDR4 processors are detected as next gen processors has not been fixed in these updates. If you install the update rollup on a system with the processor, Windows will prevent the downloading and installation of future Windows Updates."
     
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    How to keep Windows 7 or 8

     
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    @Phoenix did you start another thread for the patch to allow Windows 7 / 8.1 Windows Updates on Kabylake / Ryzen CPU's?

    I didn't see it mentioned in post #1 here either.

    I don't have a system to test, but maybe you do? Then either start another thread for it, or add it here?

    What do you think?

    All-in-one patch script for KB4012218, KB4012219, KB4015546, KB4015547, KB4015549, KB4015550, KB4015552, KB4015553 (update 3)
    [​IMG] zeffy released this a day ago
    https://github.com/zeffy/kb4012218-19/releases

    List of Windows updates supported by this patch
    https://github.com/zeffy/kb4012218-19/blob/master/docs/Supported_Updates.md

    Top level, more info there:
    https://github.com/zeffy/kb4012218-19
     
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    Hey guys, after fresh Windows 7 re-installation enough just to install the the latest Simplix Pack? I installed, but Windows update still showing lots of available updates...
     
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    Used that wuaueng.dll hexedit method on a 7700K machine at work onto which the dismal patches were already installed; easy as 1-2-3 and no nagging popup anymore, all updates henceforth being accepted. Only hiccup was not being local admin, so it refused to overwrite the existing dll. The ' Take Ownership' trick solved that bit and set it read-only afterwards for good measure.

    Now just need an unlocked bios and eliminate some throttle limits. Bit strange this is necessary; it's a business-line tower being sold with K-models as a standard option.
     
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    What kind of business-line tower needs a BIOS mod to deliver full performance without malfunctioning? Is it a Dell? I know Alienware castrates the firmware and actively tries to block upgrades on their 'high performance' desktops. Things are beyond bad enough already with notebook OEMs believing they have some kind of right to own their customers. Doing the same to a desktop takes their criminal activity to a heightened level of fraud.
     
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    A HP. It's hitting 'VR' and the multiplier is limited to 45x. Don't care about multi-threaded performance, but do want to eke out every bit when it is running single-threaded applications. Seems there's a more recent bios out with a microcode update, so with any luck that'll tackle part of the problem. Adding a few heatsinks may aid the VR bit, but remember that this is an office environment, so ... tinkering during after-work hours, preferably.

    Really, a game-oriented motherboard (=decent bios) and diy would've been much easier, not to mention cheaper. That's medium-to-large business for you; overpaying for pre-assembled, locked-down systems and 'support'.
     
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    Hey now. I noticed the .bat file unique to this discussion, undesirable KB3139929 is different then the Simplix Update similarly named, undesirable KB3139923. Just pointing it out... I didn't look at the KB updates via MS website too closely -so they both could be bad news. Maybe Simplix has a typo? I wanted to mention just in case there was a typo on someone's part. I didnt see Simplix mention KB3139929. I can look at it closely later -but in the meantime thought Id post. Woody notes KB3139929, so the discussion's .bat is probably solid. Peace!
     
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    I love simplix Pack. Do not install other updates via Windows update. Simplix Pack superseeds all the old ones.
     
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    for the n'th time, KB2976978 showed it's ugly face again.
     
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    Prefer to hide all updates features on my win7 to prevent my computer from constant damage :rolleyes:
     
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    Guys, I installed the latest Simplix Pack and it is deactivated my perfect working Windows 7. Impossible now to activate, not even with windows loader. How can i uninstall latest updates, the ones that Simplix Pack installed?
     
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    Something similar happened to me a month or two back. I went to “restore from disk”, then found a restore point prior to my windows update, f***-up. I had one restore point that saved my behind. Dunno if that helps. *I did have to restore from disk (when I tried a restore point w/o using a disk it didn’t work). Good luck!!
     
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    Shoot, my restore points are missing. I thought they were enabled. Interesting what is going on, hope i do not need to reinstall 7. If so, after i won't apply anymore updates.
     
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    Are you patched for WannaCrypt?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    Did you try Restore from Recovery Disk? You may have at least one restore point prior to your last update when you boot from disk (again, I had to use a Recovery Disk to find a restore point -otherwise I was SOL). Hope you figure it out, good luck
     
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    Could it be? Is it really over?

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/micr...orced-windows-upgrades-to-an-end-517471.shtml

    I'll believe it when I don't see it. I completely stopped updating my Win7 a long time ago so I guess I'll never know.

    Btw, thank you to everyone who contributed in this discussion, especially Phoenix & a few others who I learned a hell of a lot regarding Windows and the complete BS MShaft tried to get on my computer. Keep up the great work. :D
     
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    KB3133977 to be added to the list later today, please avoid this update
     
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    You should elaborate why. Anyone that doesn't read the info at the link will have no clue what a sorry, vile, dishonest, good-for-nothing, low-down, loser outfit Micro$haft has become. They are knowingly releasing a "recommended" automatic update that adds UEFI Secure Boot to Windows 7 computers and renders them unbootable. They are aware of the problem and plan to do nothing about it. This is drive-by vandalism and these scum-bags need to be held accountable for the cost of diagnosing and repairing the damage they are maliciously inflicting on computers around the globe.

    This is also a wake-up call on the importance of disabling automatic updates as I have counseled others to do for the last 5 years. These people are not our friends.

    @D2 Ultima - please warn your friends in gaming circles so those still running the only good version of Windows (7) available today will not be a victim of the Redmond Mafia's vandalism spree. It's not new info, but a reminder never hurts either. I always forget about these digital land mines because I do not allow automatic updates.
     
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    sounds like a case of ; "know thy enema" ... errr ... make that "enemy" .
    what has always amused me is that they get away with these behaviors time and time again .
     
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    KB3133977 added to the list and the batch uninstallation file for all the bad updates has been updated to v2.6
     
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    I believe the forcing/tricking/just plain old BS'ing end users in to ̶u̶p̶g̶r̶a̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ downgrading to Windoze X is never going to end as long as people continue to use 7 & 8.X as their OS.

    Personally I'm starting to get that Linux twitch.
     
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    twitch versus urge
    :confused:

    over in the panasonic forum we have been cussing and discussing a comp that three outfits were involved with/put their name on .
    it is affectionately known as "3E" .
    the relevancy here is the wonderful uefi/secure boot and linux ... talk about not wanting to play !
    i am not sure if the problem is that the powers that be have "written out/blacklisted" 'nix based OSes or it is a matter of stuff being written that "conforms" to the way that stuff has to be done with uefi/secure boot .
    yeah , you can finagle around and get a 'nix OS to run via a virtual machine but the point i am getting at is not wanting to two-step something ...
    it is like having to drive your car from the trunk because all the doors are locked .
    can you imagine the day when you go to load a copy of W7 on a fairly new machine and it simply refuses to load ?
     
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    They can't force on you Windoze Store if you have Win 7. Of course they will continue offer <free [​IMG]> Win X.
     
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    hmmm ... a bulimic food-fight
    :p :D

    with anything *free* ...
    the actual product being bought and sold is you .
     
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    I couldn't have said it better myself. What a dark and devious world we live in these days.
     
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    Hey Now. Maybe someone can help as this is a softball question for most of you. (but my Russian language skills are par, at best, so bear with me if inclined).
    *Bullet Point Question: Why are past KBUpdates noted as "added" by Simplix, yet not included w/in more recent UpdatePack7R2's? For extraneous info., please read-on... sorry, I can be a verbose F**ker.
    I've ignored "Windows Updates" that are not in the Simplix monthly UpdatePack7R2 (a few months back I was going through the ghacks.net breakdown, one by one -but Brinkman stopped posting on Win7 KB Update Breakdowns). So...
    Question/Synopsis:
    Take for e.g., KB3078601. on 08/20/15 Simplix notes "Added KB3078601-x86-x64 (replaces KB2978092-x86-x64, KB3045171-x86-x64, KB3065979-x86-x64, KB3070102-x86-x64 and KB3079904-x86-x64)".
    **Yet in the most recent 10/10/2017 pack it's w/in the "Added List".
    So the impetus of my question, when I run Windows Update KB3078601 populates, for e.g., (after I've installed the most recent SimplixPack) . Why wasn't it included/installed? Maybe it's been replaced?
    Same story, on 01/17/16, Simplix notes "Added KB3110329-x86-x64 (replaces KB2803821-v2-x86-x64, KB2887069-x86-x64, KB2977728-x86-x64)". (yet not in UpdatePack7R2 from 10/10/2017).
    KB3156016 and KB3156019, simlilar. Many months prior noted as "added" but yet aren't in the most recent Simplix Pack.

    **2nd Question -Do you all install Windows Updates noted on "Added" Simplix List, but NOT installed via latest UpdatePack7R2 -using Windows Update? (assuming this happens to others)
    https://blog.simplix.info/update7/
    https://translate.google.com/
    Thanks for any feedback. Have a good one everybody. Peace.
    PS- KB2952664 is re-populating in WU again. Hilarious, but still kinda feels like a losing battle... just need 1+/- more month to hone my Linux chops! :vbthumbsup: Thanks again.
     
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    KB2976978 added to the list and the batch removal file has been updated to v2.7
     
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    Hey now. Why the redundancy? KB2976978 was in previous versions (at least v2.5 & v2.6 -which I still have on a flash). Is it necessary to uninstall KB2976978 again, after KB4015547?

    I'm only asking to better understand these KB updates. Now that I'm relying solely on Simplix packs -I've had the lingering question as to why his monthly updates note "KBxxxxxxx Replaces, KBxxxxxxx". Which mad me curious as to why after running a monthly Simplix7r2, then running a Windows Update... why do certain KBs repopulate? (Perhaps this 'KB replacement variable' I described above is why your v2.7 .bat needs the duplicate KB2976978 uninstall at the end?).

    Love the thread, love your hard work. Thanks!
     
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    I searched the previous batch file and KB2976978 wasn't there

    can you double check?
     
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    [​IMG]
    Look at your new one? Duplicate entry. Also w/in v2.5 & 2.6
     
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    ooooooops, you're right, reverting batch file back to v2.6
     
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    crap. I thought I might figure out why those KBs repopulate and Simplix "replaces". Oh well. Thanks again for all your work!
     
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    Hello. Anyone have feedback as to this Roll-Up from the 4th (a Thurs.)? KB4056894. Is it unnecessary if ones AV has the REGKEY? It's pretty extensive if you look at this update's File Information.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4056894/windows-7-update-kb4056894

    I guess my concern is how would a monthly Simplix pack address something tied-in to ones AV Registry Values?

    A bit off-topic, but not too bad....
    So whose a bigger D*CK? Brian Krzanich, or Satya Nadella?
    https://gizmodo.com/intel-says-ceo-dumping-tons-of-stock-last-year-unrelate-1821739988

    Thanks for your time!
     
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    Fix Windows 7 BSOD 0x000000c4 after installing KB4056894
     
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    Didn’t install it, thankfully, but Im going to hide it. Thank you! (I’ll be curious as to the Simplix Update though... after reading a bit of the File Update info. -for e.g., my AV has the registry key value... so how will the Simplix Pack distinguish between those w/ the AV Registry value, and those w/o?). Maybe no big deal, I hope. Really looking forward to next Simplix Update as Meltdown & Spectre p*ss me off. Thanks again!!
     
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    Figured it out (and sorry to hi-jack this thread as of late!)... so in order for the MS Meltdown & Spectre patch to work the AV Registry value must be present (if you use a 3rd party AV).
    http://www.zdnet.com/article/window...check-if-your-av-is-blocking-microsoft-patch/
    About mid-page there's a breakdown of AV providers (now a bit dated).
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ ; Value Name="cadca5fe-87d3-4b96-b7fb-a231484277cc" ; Type="REG_DWORD” ; Data="0x00000000”

    So just make sure to double-check your machine's registry key above before installing the next Simplix Update.

    -Just saw this. Ironic, and sadly funny for AMD users that the Meltdown patch via Win10's force-fed updates bricked machines (BSOD). https://www.geekwire.com/2018/micro...tre-patches-amd-devices-fixes-brick-machines/
     
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