Installing Win updates on Win 7 or 8.1 computers with Kaby Lake or Ryzen CPUs
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F*** windows update filth. The only thing they are updating is the amount of malware they can inject into Win 7/8.1. "it's purely a business decision, and is not to force people to move to Windows 10"
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I mean, c'mon... really? I might have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.Ashtrix, hmscott, Papusan and 1 other person like this. -
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Next step from Micro$haft will be decreasing gaming performance if you run Windoze 7 and 8.1
This way can their newest baby Windoze X look much better. They will use all the tricks in the book to do this!! In small steps with Windoze update patches can this be manageable without too much noise.TBoneSan, Ashtrix, Raiderman and 1 other person like this. -
People that don't want Windoze OS X cancer malware need to follow my practice that started several years ago. Do not allow Windows Updates. They are unnecessary, and they are cancerware. My systems are proof. M18xR1, M18xR2, Alienware 18, P570WM, P750ZM, Sky X9, P870DM-G, P870DM3 and Tornado F5, and my wife's XPS 15. Windows 7 SP1, Windows Updates disabled and only selectively applied by me. No antivirus software and no problems.
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@Ashtrix: If you dig a bit deeper on Woody's blog you will find more viable workarounds:
1. DISM commands on .cab hotfixes still works with no hiccups.
2. Manually overwriting the Windows Update Client(Wuaueng.dll) with the older version results in a triumph, huge success
The nagware screen is still shown, but I guess if you go through the hassle of replacing all the files that sum up the Windows Update Client [as detailed here: KB3138612] I guess you can get rid of it. Seems like the user reporting the 2nd workaround hasn't tested this scenario yet.
Basically, we can still use Windows 7 and 8.1 on new machines and keep them secure, but we don't know how long Microsoft will still allow these workarounds to be functional. -
And Windoze X will look as a much nicer options. Just say gaming performance is optimized with Cartoon OS X.Raiderman, ajc9988, Ashtrix and 1 other person like this. -
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Bypass for Windows Update lock for next-gen processors found - Ghacks.net
Maybe those with AMD Carrizo DDR4 processors need to use this fix in foreseeable time?Because the M$ Morons don't bothered with a fix in latest Patch Day
"The issue that AMD Carrizo DDR4 processors are detected as next gen processors has not been fixed in these updates. If you install the update rollup on a system with the processor, Windows will prevent the downloading and installation of future Windows Updates." -
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@Phoenix did you start another thread for the patch to allow Windows 7 / 8.1 Windows Updates on Kabylake / Ryzen CPU's?
I didn't see it mentioned in post #1 here either.
I don't have a system to test, but maybe you do? Then either start another thread for it, or add it here?
What do you think?
All-in-one patch script for KB4012218, KB4012219, KB4015546, KB4015547, KB4015549, KB4015550, KB4015552, KB4015553 (update 3)
zeffy released this a day ago
https://github.com/zeffy/kb4012218-19/releases
List of Windows updates supported by this patch
https://github.com/zeffy/kb4012218-19/blob/master/docs/Supported_Updates.md
Top level, more info there:
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Hey guys, after fresh Windows 7 re-installation enough just to install the the latest Simplix Pack? I installed, but Windows update still showing lots of available updates...
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Now just need an unlocked bios and eliminate some throttle limits. Bit strange this is necessary; it's a business-line tower being sold with K-models as a standard option. -
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A HP. It's hitting 'VR' and the multiplier is limited to 45x. Don't care about multi-threaded performance, but do want to eke out every bit when it is running single-threaded applications. Seems there's a more recent bios out with a microcode update, so with any luck that'll tackle part of the problem. Adding a few heatsinks may aid the VR bit, but remember that this is an office environment, so ... tinkering during after-work hours, preferably.
Really, a game-oriented motherboard (=decent bios) and diy would've been much easier, not to mention cheaper. That's medium-to-large business for you; overpaying for pre-assembled, locked-down systems and 'support'. -
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Hey now. I noticed the .bat file unique to this discussion, undesirable KB3139929 is different then the Simplix Update similarly named, undesirable KB3139923. Just pointing it out... I didn't look at the KB updates via MS website too closely -so they both could be bad news. Maybe Simplix has a typo? I wanted to mention just in case there was a typo on someone's part. I didnt see Simplix mention KB3139929. I can look at it closely later -but in the meantime thought Id post. Woody notes KB3139929, so the discussion's .bat is probably solid. Peace!
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Prefer to hide all updates features on my win7 to prevent my computer from constant damage
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Guys, I installed the latest Simplix Pack and it is deactivated my perfect working Windows 7. Impossible now to activate, not even with windows loader. How can i uninstall latest updates, the ones that Simplix Pack installed?
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Shoot, my restore points are missing. I thought they were enabled. Interesting what is going on, hope i do not need to reinstall 7. If so, after i won't apply anymore updates.
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Could it be? Is it really over?
http://news.softpedia.com/news/micr...orced-windows-upgrades-to-an-end-517471.shtml
I'll believe it when I don't see it. I completely stopped updating my Win7 a long time ago so I guess I'll never know.
Btw, thank you to everyone who contributed in this discussion, especially Phoenix & a few others who I learned a hell of a lot regarding Windows and the complete BS MShaft tried to get on my computer. Keep up the great work.Last edited: Aug 23, 2017 -
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KB3133977 to be added to the list later today, please avoid this update
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This is also a wake-up call on the importance of disabling automatic updates as I have counseled others to do for the last 5 years. These people are not our friends.
@D2 Ultima - please warn your friends in gaming circles so those still running the only good version of Windows (7) available today will not be a victim of the Redmond Mafia's vandalism spree. It's not new info, but a reminder never hurts either. I always forget about these digital land mines because I do not allow automatic updates.Last edited: Oct 16, 2017Riley Martin, Papusan, steberg and 3 others like this. -
sounds like a case of ; "know thy enema" ... errr ... make that "enemy" .
what has always amused me is that they get away with these behaviors time and time again .Riley Martin, Papusan, inm8#2 and 1 other person like this. -
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KB3133977 added to the list and the batch uninstallation file for all the bad updates has been updated to v2.6
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Interesting posts in MDL thread ...
https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...hotfixes-into-win7-distribution.45005/page-70
Posts #1396, #1397, #1398, #1404, and #1405 (KB2990184?) -
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I believe the forcing/tricking/just plain old BS'ing end users in to ̶u̶p̶g̶r̶a̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ downgrading to Windoze X is never going to end as long as people continue to use 7 & 8.X as their OS.
Personally I'm starting to get that Linux twitch.Last edited: Oct 24, 2017Maleko48 likes this. -
twitch versus urge
over in the panasonic forum we have been cussing and discussing a comp that three outfits were involved with/put their name on .
it is affectionately known as "3E" .
the relevancy here is the wonderful uefi/secure boot and linux ... talk about not wanting to play !
i am not sure if the problem is that the powers that be have "written out/blacklisted" 'nix based OSes or it is a matter of stuff being written that "conforms" to the way that stuff has to be done with uefi/secure boot .
yeah , you can finagle around and get a 'nix OS to run via a virtual machine but the point i am getting at is not wanting to two-step something ...
it is like having to drive your car from the trunk because all the doors are locked .
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> Win X.
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hmmm ... a bulimic food-fight
with anything *free* ...
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Today, a new dose of kb2976978
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...keeping-windows-up-to-date-in-windows-8-1-andSpartan@HIDevolution, hmscott and Papusan like this. -
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Hey Now. Maybe someone can help as this is a softball question for most of you. (but my Russian language skills are par, at best, so bear with me if inclined).
*Bullet Point Question: Why are past KBUpdates noted as "added" by Simplix, yet not included w/in more recent UpdatePack7R2's? For extraneous info., please read-on... sorry, I can be a verbose F**ker.
I've ignored "Windows Updates" that are not in the Simplix monthly UpdatePack7R2 (a few months back I was going through the ghacks.net breakdown, one by one -but Brinkman stopped posting on Win7 KB Update Breakdowns). So...
Question/Synopsis:
Take for e.g., KB3078601. on 08/20/15 Simplix notes "Added KB3078601-x86-x64 (replaces KB2978092-x86-x64, KB3045171-x86-x64, KB3065979-x86-x64, KB3070102-x86-x64 and KB3079904-x86-x64)".
**Yet in the most recent 10/10/2017 pack it's w/in the "Added List".
So the impetus of my question, when I run Windows Update KB3078601 populates, for e.g., (after I've installed the most recent SimplixPack) . Why wasn't it included/installed? Maybe it's been replaced?
Same story, on 01/17/16, Simplix notes "Added KB3110329-x86-x64 (replaces KB2803821-v2-x86-x64, KB2887069-x86-x64, KB2977728-x86-x64)". (yet not in UpdatePack7R2 from 10/10/2017).
KB3156016 and KB3156019, simlilar. Many months prior noted as "added" but yet aren't in the most recent Simplix Pack.
**2nd Question -Do you all install Windows Updates noted on "Added" Simplix List, but NOT installed via latest UpdatePack7R2 -using Windows Update? (assuming this happens to others)
https://blog.simplix.info/update7/
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Thanks for any feedback. Have a good one everybody. Peace.
PS- KB2952664 is re-populating in WU again. Hilarious, but still kinda feels like a losing battle... just need 1+/- more month to hone my Linux chops!Thanks again.
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KB2976978 added to the list and the batch removal file has been updated to v2.7
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Riley Martin Notebook Consultant
I'm only asking to better understand these KB updates. Now that I'm relying solely on Simplix packs -I've had the lingering question as to why his monthly updates note "KBxxxxxxx Replaces, KBxxxxxxx". Which mad me curious as to why after running a monthly Simplix7r2, then running a Windows Update... why do certain KBs repopulate? (Perhaps this 'KB replacement variable' I described above is why your v2.7 .bat needs the duplicate KB2976978 uninstall at the end?).
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can you double check? -
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Hello. Anyone have feedback as to this Roll-Up from the 4th (a Thurs.)? KB4056894. Is it unnecessary if ones AV has the REGKEY? It's pretty extensive if you look at this update's File Information.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4056894/windows-7-update-kb4056894
I guess my concern is how would a monthly Simplix pack address something tied-in to ones AV Registry Values?
A bit off-topic, but not too bad....
So whose a bigger D*CK? Brian Krzanich, or Satya Nadella?
https://gizmodo.com/intel-says-ceo-dumping-tons-of-stock-last-year-unrelate-1821739988
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http://www.zdnet.com/article/window...check-if-your-av-is-blocking-microsoft-patch/
About mid-page there's a breakdown of AV providers (now a bit dated).
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ ; Value Name="cadca5fe-87d3-4b96-b7fb-a231484277cc" ; Type="REG_DWORD” ; Data="0x00000000”
So just make sure to double-check your machine's registry key above before installing the next Simplix Update.
-Just saw this. Ironic, and sadly funny for AMD users that the Meltdown patch via Win10's force-fed updates bricked machines (BSOD). https://www.geekwire.com/2018/micro...tre-patches-amd-devices-fixes-brick-machines/
Windows7/8 - Updates to hide to prevent Windows 10 Upgrade / Disable Telemetry
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