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    Windows7/8 - Updates to hide to prevent Windows 10 Upgrade / Disable Telemetry

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 23, 2015.

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    I have it. Is the Yandex drive ok?
     
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    I forgot to mention, I use MS Office for work (also a genuine retail key). If my Windows & Office were Enterprise, I can understand my system's behavior -post the hosts/firewall config. Despite my machine being slowed significantly (Office excecutables eventually ran... but again, using tons of RAM). A few more tweaks to my VPN & Firewall settings may be all that I needed. I just can't spend the time troubleshooting (Black Viper, I am not). Please update w/ your Wireshark findings, Ty!

    Speaking of changing one's hosts file. I've always liked the Spybot Anti-Beacon, and run it regularly without any problems or hang-ups w/ its additions to my hosts file. *There's an updated version as of 11/11/16 (which may be worth checking out).
    https://forums.spybot.info/downloads.php
    I think this link to a TED talk is topical and many of you may find interesting. In fact, I think it's why most of us are here. Glen Greenwald link below,
    https://www.ted.com/talks/glenn_greenwald_why_privacy_matters
     
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    I d/l the latest anti beacon and it won't stay immunized. I start it as admin and immunize, but after each restart only 4/5 CEIP Scheduled Tasks stay immunized.

    The last version never did this.
     
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  4. Riley Martin

    Riley Martin Notebook Consultant

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    I noticed that too. Good point. I think I remember an install setting to Immunize at start up. I didn't mark it. If not, add it to your start-up programs and/or tweak it with your task scheduler to run a .bat at boot to auto-immunize?
     
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    Well, for know I can share with you this list:

    134.170.110.48, dm2305-c.1drv.com
    134.170.120.176, sn3302-c.1drv.com
    185.33.220.38, 203.bm-nginx-loadbalancer.mgmt.ams1.adnexus.net
    191.232.139.141, msnbot-191-232-139-141.search.msn.com
    191.232.139.49, msnbot-191-232-139-49.search.msn.com
    204.79.197.203, a-0003.a-msedge.net
    204.79.197.213, a-0011.a-msedge.net
    65.52.103.75, widgets.services.microsoft.com
    131.253.61.68 - 131.253.61.100, MS Unknown
    185.33.222.0 - 185.33.223.255, AppNexus
    191.232.139.253, bingbot
    23.32.247.149, a23-32-247-149.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com >> i1.services.social.microsoft.com
    207.46.194.10, msnbot-207-46-194-10.search.msn.com
    207.46.194.14, msnbot-207-46-194-14.search.msn.com
    65.55.52.23, OneDrive
    40.77.226.249-40.77.226.250 MS

    After each IP its resolved name is specified.
    I blocked all these URLs on the router level without any notable consequences, at least I didn't notice any exaggerated increase in resource consumption, hang-ups and etc.
    My system got a bit slower but recently I upgraded to Anniversary update and I assume this was a reason for this slowness, not blocking. It's quite hard to distinguish was served as a reason and in what percentage.
     
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    Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
    The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
    Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
    The frumious Windows 10 Upgrade!”

    Jabberwocky
    BY LEWIS CARROLL

    ’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
    Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
    All mimsy were the borogoves,
    And the mome raths outgrabe.

    “Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
    The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
    Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
    The frumious Bandersnatch!”

    He took his vorpal sword in hand;
    Long time the manxome foe he sought—
    So rested he by the Tumtum tree
    And stood awhile in thought.

    And, as in uffish thought he stood,
    The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
    Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
    And burbled as it came!

    One, two! One, two! And through and through
    The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
    He left it dead, and with its head
    He went galumphing back.

    “And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
    Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
    O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!”
    He chortled in his joy.

    ’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
    Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
    All mimsy were the borogoves,
    And the mome raths outgrabe.
     
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    As the Windows 10 Upgrade has ended, one still needs to run this to stop telemetry in Windows 7 as they are included in the monthly security updates:

    Disable/Remove Telemetry and Tracking Service
    Source: My Digital Life Forums (You must be a member to see the content though)
     
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    Thanks for the guide. Is anyone here actively running the mentioned script to prevent telemetry running Windows 7. I would like to try this but wonder if anyone has experienced any issues with this script to run at login and thanks much.

    Gary

     
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    Microsoft re-releases snooping patches KB 2952664, KB 2976978

     
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    I have been running it since Phoenix posted it. Since September I have updates TURNED OFF. Don't need MS update virus's no more.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Yeah, I know. I will delete it. The edit function is still crippled :cool:
     
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    Updated guide from gHacks:

    Blocking Telemetry in Windows 7 and 8.1

     
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    Good Thing, Barnacules got laid-off by Microsoft. He doesn't need to be part of a company going in a completely different direction for the worst! It's mostly the CEO and his BS propaganda of running the company. If no one agrees with him, he probably threatens to fire any employee who disagrees or refuse to work around that. It's like CEO replacements go in the completely wrong way these days. Company gets a bad rep while there's some employees trying to do some good over there.
     
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    Hey Microsoft, Groundhog Day was last month! :p

    Windows snooping patches KB 2952664, KB 2976978 are back (again)

     
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    I came here to see if these reappearing KBs were posted/noted (particularly KB2952664). Sure as sh*t, you're on it. Good looking out! I don't know all or what KB2952664 entails... but I have these pain-in-the-a55 KBs memorized (sadly) -so I remembered that your Page #1 noted KB2952664 as "Get Windows 10 Assistant". So now I'm wondering if MS is going to do another hard-push, "Free Upgrade to Win10" install?

    1 Billion? Never
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Could be. Windoze VISTA support ends next month. And The Redmond Morons wants push every sole over to Windoze X and not that you hit up a 7 license :D
     
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    Haha, free Windows 10 adware edition for all......again :eek:
     
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    Good point!

    Off topic for this particular reply/post, but on-topic for this Discussion (I think -feel free to Remove if deemed N/A).

    Coming back to this thread for the first time in a while reminded me that I've wanted to post my experience with the "Pending Renames" folder. I assume the Folder doesn't empty like it should b/c of selective KBs installed. (So I figured I'd post here).

    As you know the folder is found in C:\Windows\winsxs\Temp\PendingRenames. This godd*mn folder used to pi55 me off b/c whenever I ran a System File Check, afterwards I'd have 40MB or more memory used by Pending Renames (and Pending Deletes -protected, hidden folder, same location). The folder wouldn't clear out after a day, week, month (as it should). I searched all over for the fix, sevenforums, you name it... couldn't find anything that worked. You'll see many suggest reboot your machine, use command prompt, then start a minor service, for e.g., "net start TrustedInstaller" -then supposedly, Windows will work through your files (that fix never worked for me).

    If you find you have a ton of Pending Renames that never clear, this will revert the folder to 0MB (at least it works on my win7 machines).

    Open Windows Update, choose a KB you've installed, Uninstall it, reboot. Open WU, "check for updates... let me choose", choose the update you just uninstalled, re-install. Done. You may need to wait a bit if you have a HDD and/or low RAM.

    If this is common knowledge, my bad. But if you search online, there's a sh*t-ton of people looking for a fix. Again, sorry if off topic... but I think some of you might find it helpful. Peace out
     
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    I shall check it out. Simplix's page is awesome, but I haven't had to do an install since the post October bundled crap.

    Im curious if you've run a System File Check though? If so, does your Pending Renames remain empty? Hmm... Id guess you have run sfc/ scannow, so maybe I need to consider a reinstall of SP1 via Simplix. Ive done all of my machines' installs (and KB updates, up until Oct.) manually/selectively, as originally outlined by Phoenix, pg1. Thanks for the feedback! Although, my sfc scans haven't reported any corruptions afterwards -just the large Pending Renames folder & memory use was my only issue (which isn't a ton of memory, but it still bothered me). Anyway... interesting stuff. Thanks again!
     
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    Then thing that is great about simplix, is you can integrate all the updates into your install.wim so your ISO is fully up to date when you have to reinstall. There are instructions on how to do this on the page link. I have never run system file check or sfc, because my Win7 build is so hacked, it would fubar all of my customization's. I have 200 DLL's that are modified in system32 alone, and somewhere around 100 in syswow.
    Windows 10 will be another fail for MS, as was 8.1, so either they will finally get the point and listen to the consumer/user, and give us what we want in an OS, or there will be a mass migration to Linux. At least that is my wanna be Nostradamus.
     
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    Is Microsoft blocking Win7/8.1 updates on Kaby Lake and Ryzen chips?
    KB 4012982 says that Microsoft will prevent updates on the newer hardware...
    http://www.infoworld.com/article/31...781-updates-on-kaby-lake-and-ryzen-chips.html

    "It's hard to pin down the source of a flame war like the one currently underway in the Windows blog echo chamber. Yes, Microsoft's KB 4012982, published last week, says that Microsoft will actively block Win7 and 8.1 updates on the newer hardware. There's a mighty AMD Reddit thread on the topic. Bloggers are beating their chests about it, although Microsoft first warned about the direction more than a year ago.

    What I want to know: Have you seen the warning message?

    Windows 10 Installation Superguide today. | Stay up on key Microsoft technologies with the Windows Report newsletter. ]
    I've looked high and low and can't find anybody running a Kaby Lake or Ryzen processor (or Qualcomm 8996, for that matter) who's had their Win7 or 8.1 patches blocked.

    According to Microsoft, attempting to update Win7 or 8.1 on one of those newer machines should result in errors:

    posted a video on YouTube showing that he was able to install and update Win 8.1 on a Kaby Lake processor on Jan. 24.

    Has something changed since then?"

    "Your PC uses a processor that isn’t supported on this version of Windows" error when you scan or download Windows updates
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...ch-you-receive-a-your-pc-uses-a-processor-tha
     
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    That is sucks, because I want use Win 7 on my future processors too, like until 10th gen Intels... Hope there will be a workout!
     
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    Microsoft Drops Windows 7/8.1 Support for AMD Ryzen & Intel Kaby Lake CPU & Lies About It - BUSTED!
    Published on Mar 16, 2017
    "Today Microsoft officially stated that it won't allow Windows Updates on Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 if you have an AMD Ryzen or Intel Kaby Lake or newer CPU. They claim the dropped support is for stability and reliability but I cut through the crap as an ex-Microsoft employee and tell you why they are really doing it. Comes down to Windows 10 market share and spying, plain and simple."

    Raton Colorado 5 hours ago
    "I dropped 10 on a few systems both new store bought and custom cause it kept dropping boot or some other errors that kept the system from coming up, and now am on 7 again with no problems what so ever."
     
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    Thank you for this . This has been really ticking me off...time to nuke them :D
     
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    @Phoenix: Please add KB4012218 and KB4012219. These updates add the hardware check for Ryzen and Kaby Lake and when deployed they will prevent any future updates from being installed on these configurations paired with Windows 7 and 8.1.

    More information here, here and here.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Do we know if uninstalling these KB's if they slip through and get installed will reverse the damage? Or will it take additional massaging to the Registry / ? to fix?
     
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    If one skips these they will get into the system with cumulative updates again, Whole future packages from WU system restriction applies with this. Only way is DISM (Manual)
     
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    Yes, uninstalling the KB fixes the damage, but installing it however changes the Windows Update Client itself to do the hardware check. As such, manual updates are also non-functional if they are dona via installing .msu packages. DISM Tool with .cab files still works. More details at Woody:

    Search begins for workarounds to Microsoft's Win7/8.1 on Kaby Lake/Ryzen patch ban

    As a recommendation, avoid every single monthly rollup starting April March 2017! Especially if you are on a Ryzen/Kaby Lake system and still want to keep your Windows 7/8.1 install functional. Security only updates and .NET updates are still safe.
     
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    List updated and batch file removal updated

    thank you for your contribution
     
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    Great news everyone! No, it's not the Dacia Sandero! :D

    Microsoft managed to botch even the hardware check and a user with an older architecture AMD APU has reported to have been hit by this symptom:

    [​IMG]

    @Phoenix: Glad to help :vboops:
     
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    Microsoft will kill some Windows 7 and 8.1 support in April

    And I bet from April forward Microsoft will begin rolling older updates into the new 7/8.1 cumulative patches ( as they said they would) so that if you update through official MS channels you will not be able to avoid the restrictions on newer hardware.

     
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    Weird. I was just asked to Activate my Retail Win7 key/license again. 2nd time in less than a month (a month back I installed a new processor and motherboard & was prompted shortly after to Activate -but yet again today). My system was idle all night, WU off. Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz (hmm, my online activation went fine but weird timing on a 2nd prompt to activate).
     
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    "Your PC uses a processor designed for the latest version of Windows" Is ********! Intel and AMD did not specifically design a processor to only run on Windows 10. Effing Microshit, and their propaganda and all out lying is a complete joke. "Click the learn more button" so we can infest your system with our newest malware edition of Windows!
     
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    Well said. I hope they lose more & more market share to Linux. As more old timers get out of the game, MicroShark hopefully find themselves losing their market to Linux users.

    With respect to MS sending a 2nd request for my Licese Key (twice w/in a month)... I very recently did a BIOS update to a new Gigabyte MB which has a new I7-6700 (could a BIOS update trigger the req?). I need to tighten things up when I have time. Ugh... such a pain to own your damn machine when using a MS os.

    I think Im going to try Ancile... https://www.ghacks.net/2016/09/12/ancile-block-spying-on-windows-7-and-8/
     
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    Microsoft has done the unthinkable. The hardware check for CPU Platform has been introduced in the Security Only update, KB4015547 for Windows 8.1 and KB4015546 for Windows 7. Following the links you will see one thing in common in their description:
    Effective immediately I will consider their "Lifecycle" Plan as being nothing more than a piece of toilet paper. 2018, 2020 and 2023 have all been totally discarded in their quest to force people use Windows 10. I fully expect them to breach their "mainstream" support plan with Windows 10 also.

    Really nice Microsoft. Does nobody in the higher ranks realize that when you throw Windows users under the bus while they are still under mainstream or extended support this can easily mean that ANY future Windows release is prone to this inexcusable behavior? Does nobody realize that this will result in less sales and market share?
     
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    Thank you for your contribution. These updates have been added to the list and the removal batch file has been updated to v2.5

    @toughasnails @Mr. Fox
     
  41. Mr. Fox

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    They really are a bunch evil loser digi-Nazis bastards from hell. Screw 'em. All they are doing is giving honest people an incentive to stoop to dishonest measures to run the version of Windows they prefer to run. Their behavior will create a new group of users with an incentive to resort to software piracy that never existed before Micro$haft's latest brain hemorrhage.
    What they don't realize is this is basically irrelevant. Their support has been irrelevant for several years now. Their hardware validation cancer does nothing but invalidate their legitimacy as a technology leader. I could say more, but it would not be very nice and would be a violation of forum rules. So, I will just leave it at "Bite me, Micro$loth" and you guys can fill in the rest of the blanks.

    [​IMG]
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    What's worse is that people actually will argue that you must be on Windows 10 for the newest hardware. In other words, people believe the propaganda.

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    Even worse is the argument that Windows 7 is eight years old now, and the shiny NEW Windows 10 "must" be better.
     
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    Only the lying retards will make that argument, and the sheeple already believe it. The real trouble is that idiots, ignorant and gullible consumers are in the majority. If that were not so, Windows 10 would only have like a 10% market share, Micro$haft would be scrambling to try to produce their next digital abortion to replace Windows 7, and Intel would have stopped pushing BGA filth for trashbooks because nobody would buy that crap. Again, just one more example of the lowest common denominators adversely affecting the rest of us.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Old news, I know :D But here I lubricate it outward again It's Happening, Microsoft Is Blocking Updates On New PC Platforms with Older Versions Of Windows - Hothardware.com

    "It didn't take long for another issue to arise, when it was revealed that those restrictions would go into effect with Intel's Kaby Lake and AMD's Ryzen processors. And today, Microsoft has finally dropped the hammer."
    "Here's where things become really murky. By refusing to issue patches to Windows 8.1 users on modern hardware, Microsoft is technically going against its official support terms, which has 8.1 mainstream support lasting until next January (2018). Apparently, that promise never counted towards users of unreleased (at the time) hardware."


    New CPU lock in Windows is now live and more restrictive -Winaero.com

    "This change is even more restrictive with April 2017 updates than we could imagine. Every time you start Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 on PCs with the above mentioned CPUs, you'll see an "Unsupported Hardware" nag after a few minutes!"


    Btw. For yoo @Mr. Fox How to install Microsoft Edge on Windows 7
    And newer OS is always safer!!:D We can easily see Windoze X is build similar as Widoze 8.1:cool:
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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    No thank you. There is no reason for Edge browser to exist. Installing Edge on Windows 7 would be like injecting healthy people with HIV/AIDS virus. Just because "you can" does not mean you should.
     
  47. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Maybe yoo was the wrong target, HaHaaaaaaaaaa
    More for...
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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    Yup. You nailed it, bubba. Exactly.
     
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    LOL, there we go trying to remove all the filth from Windows 10 and now people are trying to find ways to bring this garbage to Windows 7........ just why! [​IMG]
     
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    I figured I might as well use this. It's pretty accurate, to be honest. :vbwink:

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    This also applies...
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