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E5410 and E6410 - Getting confused...

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by GottaFeeling, May 17, 2010.

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  1. GottaFeeling

    GottaFeeling Notebook Guru

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    Hi everybody,

    I feel like I am about to ask some stupid questions so be prepared :)

    I am planning on buying a new 14inch laptop with a 1440x900 screen resolution. I am quite interested in the Dell Latitude and I've found two references that look like what I am looking for: the E5410 and the E6410.

    The E5410 doesn't seem to be available yet. It is referenced on the Dell website but it's not possible to buy it at the moment. Do you guys know whether we'll be able to get one soon? Is there any release date?

    The E6410 is available to purchase but what is confusing me is that I don't see the differences between the E6410 and E5410. Can anyone clarify this for me?

    Finally I am planning on getting an SSD but I have no idea which SSD brand is offered in the option. I have read in many forums that Intel make very good SDD at the moment. Do you think it will be better to buy the laptop with a basic HDD and then replace it with an Intel SSD? Will this void the warranty? Is it any cheaper?

    Thanks for anyone who will reply to this thread ! And for the rest of you well thanks anyway for having the patience to read until the end of this post :)
     
  2. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Based on the previous E series, the E5xxx uses more plastic and is a bit thicker. If you don't need the better durability offered by the E6410 then the E5410 may be an attractive alternative.

    Or you may want to consider the E6400 which is still available from Dell Outlet or resellers such as itcsales.

    Dell has tended to use the Samsung SSDs.

    John
     
  3. GottaFeeling

    GottaFeeling Notebook Guru

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    Thanks John for your reply! I'll probably go for the E6410.

    I believe the Samsung SSD aren't the best out there. Has anyone put an SSD on his Dell? If so does it void the warranty?

    I have another question regarding the graphics card. If I choose to go for the NVidia rather than the Intel HD integrated one, does it affect battery life and heat ?
     
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    jason1214 Notebook Evangelist

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    An aftermarket SSD does not void the warranty unless it can specifically be proven that the aftermarket part caused damage.

    Basically, if you ever have any problems with the system, put the original drive back into it and you will be fine.

    The Intel will give you a little better battery life. I would say that it more depends on what you are going to utilize the system for.

    If it's graphics intensive, go with the nVidia. If you are just doing routine office work, get the Intel.
     
  5. GottaFeeling

    GottaFeeling Notebook Guru

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    Thanks Jason!

    I won't do any graphics intensive I just want to have a graphics card that I'll be able to keep for a while.

    So the Intel will provide a little more battery life? do you know roughly how much I can expect to save with the Intel?

    The most important is that I'd like to have the laptop on my lap so heat is a concern. I am not sure whether a different graphics card can cause more heat in the system.

    Anyone has experience with putting an aftermarket SSD in his laptop?

    Cheers.
     
  6. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Experience with the E6400 suggests that the Intel graphics gives 20 to 25% more run time on battery. It also produces less heat than a dedicated GPU. I find that the Intel GPU on my E6400 is fine for all my needs and the performance of the Intel GPU in the E6410 is significantly faster.

    I put a Samsung SSD in my E6400 and the boost in everyday performance was very noticeable.

    John
     
  7. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The discrete GPU will add a bit more heat as it consumes more power. Honestly, you won't notice much of a difference if you compared the Samsung and say an Intel SSD (especially if you've gone from a HDD to a Samsung).
     
  8. shifuimam

    shifuimam Notebook Enthusiast

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    I would HIGHLY recommend shelling out the extra cash for the discrete GPU. The Intel is borderline adequate for basic computing, but it'll become obsolete faster simply because it's lower-end hardware. Since you can't upgrade the GPU after you get the machine, IMO it's best to get the highest end one you can right off.

    You're going to have heat no matter what - the i5 processor is powerful but will generate a decent amount of heat, and using the computer on a soft surface will block the air vents and prevent adequate cooling on the machine's internals.
     
  9. John Ratsey

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    Firstly, the E5410 is now on the Dell UK site.

    Second, today I've trying to trouble-shoot a Dell D620 and D630 being used by work colleagues. The D620 was going at the speed of drying paint and proved to be throttling itself. I assume this was caused by temperature, with it having a dedicated GPU that is running at around 60C on idle. The D630 crashed yesterday for no obvious reason when it was busy working and its temperatures are undesirably high, IMO. Again it has a dedicated GPU. In both cases the idle temperature of the GPU is higher than the CPU. Neither person is using their computer for anything which needs good 3D graphics performance.

    John
     
  10. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I disagree - if you never game, the integrated GPU is more than enough for any basic computing.
     
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