e6410 vs. T410: comparison review

I wouldn't surprise that, but at the same time it's unfair comparison. Although the i5/7 m-series in the Dell E6410 are 35W, on other notebook there are LM and UM series which are 25W and 18W TDP respectively as well. At the same time, I'm guessing that Dell didn't have their engineer put enough time into the retrofitting E6400 w/ i5/7 CPU, thus the result is under-par cooling. Not saying that it's inefficient, because that would mean the CPU would suffer because the heat doesn't dissipate fast enough. This just mean the heat doesn't dissipate efficiently.

 

TDP cannot be used as a measure for anything since it is only the maximum amount of heat needed to be dissipated and is not accurate to compare power consumption. Also, TDP calculations are very different for C2D and CiX series since the CiX series includes not only the CPU, but also GPU and memory controller.

 

Quoted for truth. TDP can be such a deceiving specification, and comments like this are important to establish and reiterate the term's true definition.

 

You are both right, I stand corrected. What probably happens is that although the TDP of the i5 CPUs is the same as the Txxxx CPUs, since the i5 have CPU+mem controller+GPU (if the Intel graphics are chosen, otherwise I think the GPU is disabled) they are likely to produce more heat. Dell might not have accounted for that extra heat properly.

 

I can confirm that there is no discernible heat problem with the E6410. Most of the posters here fail to realize that the E6410 is actually warmer during idle or light use than after hours of maximum CPU utilization. It all comes down to the fan settings in BIOS. Personally, I'd rather see the fan running even under light CPU utilization when the computer is on AC power. Basically, we're talking about a deliberate trade-off for the sake of battery life, not any lack of cooling capacity.

 

How about webcam quality/usability?

 

considering to buy E6400/E6410 laptop with 256GB SSD Configuration? How come the outlet got these machines for around 1000 bucks? I need advice on dell SSD's? Are they worth for the price ? Compare to 500GB 7200RPM , how fast are they?

 

Also, what about Heat and Fan issues. Can we use the below solution to control the fan speed ?

diefer.de - Solution for E-Series (maybe others too)
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i installed ik8fangui and it couldn't controll anything, because the bios overrides it. the fan turned on and off the hole time as mentioned in other threads in that forum.

I read several threads in other forum and found a solution:

Hold Fn+Shift then type 1 5 3 2 4! Now you can enter a menu with Fn + R.
There you can see temperatures from cpu, gpu (skin) and system i think.

And, and thats the solution, you can turn off the bios temperature controll by setting it to disabled.
Now ik8fangui can controll the fan on my e6400!

And for the ones how wanna set the fan to xxxx rpm they can do this there too. Even the throttling can be disbaled."

 

IMHO, I would strongly advise not to do that especially for those that usually leave their notebook on when sleep or unattended for a long period of time. The reason being that since the fan control is no longer being by the BIOS, but rather software. If for any reason your computer crash or stuck whether that be application or OS problem, fan may not kick in at all. This can be a serious problem, say you leave your notebook for a large transcoding overnight and the OS crash, all software are no longer respondiing and the CPU stuck at full load. Guess what, your notebook now just run at 100% w/ no fan runnning. This would end very badly.

 

I agree, I would leave the fan to the BIOS to manage. I only use such utilities to monitor the temperature just for my information.

A SSD will give you much better performance and lower temperatures. The drawbacks are price and smaller sizes, so unless you need more than 256GB, I would go with the SSD. The SSD alone costs about $300 new, and Dell marks it up more, but usually it makes sense to get it with the system from the Dell Outlet.